74, 000,000 have watched this so far. Make sure you're one of them and make Joseph Kony famous. H deserves to be because he is the
M*^%^#$F*^$KER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

whats the difference between sony and kony

black kids steal sonys, kony steals black kids

While I enjoy the idealist mentality shared by Kony supporters that if we stop the bad guy everything will be ok..
It’s not realistic.

Kony is but a small player in our world when it comes to human rights atrocities.
The Ugandan government is said to be much worse than Kony or the LRA, with many people claiming they have killed upwards of 6 million people in a much shorter time frame then the LRA has been around.
But in Africa there are hundreds of warlords.
In South America there are warlords.
In Asia there are warlords.
In Europe,
In America,
In the Middle East.
All of them no more or less bad then Kony, all pretty buggered up.

But they are not even the worst part.
Think about the kids who work there whole lives in sweatshops, or who die of starvation, or so many other horrible things.


Stopping Kony isn’t going to fix anything.
He is a product of his environment and there will be one after him and another and another.

Stopping Kony is a cure, when what we really need is prevention.

You stop the real human rights monsters who enforce poverty on all these nations and make billions starve and you start preventing the problem.


This whole kony thing pisses me off, I have been speaking out against human rights atrocities for almost a decade now and people couldn’t give two schits.
Only when it is in there selfish interest to look good on a status update do they consider someone else, if that really is what they are doing.

Kony is a shame.
The whole idea is flawed:
Start a war with a guy who has an army of children????
Kill the whole lot as long as we get Kony??

Save kony!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/BX9i0.jpg

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 9:42am:

This whole kony thing pisses me off, I have been speaking out against human rights atrocities for almost a decade now and people couldn’t give two schits. Only when it is in there selfish interest to look good on a status update do they consider someone else, if that really is what they are doing. Kony is a shame. The whole idea is flawed: Start a war with a guy who has an army of children???? Kill the whole lot as long as we get Kony??

You're missing the point. Kony is at the top of the list of wanted war criminals. The guy who started this campaign is just as ordinary as you and me. I don't remember his name, but I do remember Kony's NOW.

This is Anarchy in action, power from the people. Are you jealous you aren't as effective? Me too a bit, but it's a model for a new tomorrow. Tomorrow this POWER can take aim at a corporation for running sweat shops or any damned wrong thing.

You don't have to start a war against his army. That's the way leaders do things. They don't like models that focus on THEM. Without getting into the rights and wrongs of it; action that focussed sharply on removing Saddam Hussein from power didn't have to involve going to war against the Iraqi people. You target a few LEADERS like this and you'd be surprised how quick the rest get a sense of responsibility.

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You're missing the point. Kony is at the top of the list of wanted war criminals. The guy who started this campaign is just as ordinary as you and me. I don't remember his name, but I do remember Kony's NOW. This is Anarchy in action, power from the people. Are you jealous you aren't as effective? Me too a bit, but it's a model for a new tomorrow. Tomorrow this POWER can take aim at a corporation for running sweat shops or any damned wrong thing. You don't have to start a war against his army. That's the way leaders do things. They don't like models that focus on THEM. Without getting into the rights and wrongs of it; action that focussed sharply on removing Saddam Hussein from power didn't have to involve going to war against the Iraqi people. You target a few LEADERS like this and you'd be surprised how quick the rest get a sense of responsibility.

The point is pointless, and if the war criminal list was legitimate it would have the US, Israel, NATO, UK and heaps of other human rights offenders on there.

This is anarchy in the fact that people don’t have a clue what they are doing or supporting. People aren’t going to help anything apart from start another pointless war where the public of the countries involved will get buggered and a small minority will prosper.
I’m not jealous at all, I wouldn’t want the support of the ignorant human race.
This power will not be used for any genuine purpose and if it is tptb won’t let it get anywhere as far as ‘Kony 2012’ has.

This whole thing has been about getting US troops into Uganda.
What are you talking about? The war in Iraq caused the death of millions of innocent Iraqi civilians and these people had more responsibility then any western population before the US came in and raped everything.



I will say it again. Prevention is better than cure!

You should take time to have a good read of these links before you commit yourself so strongly to a cause of which you have only heard one side of the story..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO73Ese25Y&feature=player_embedded#!

http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble

Joseph Kony 2012: growing outrage in Uganda over film
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/uganda/9131469/Joseph-Kony-2012-growing-outrage-in-Uganda-over-film.html

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“What that video says is totally wrong, and it can cause us more problems than help us,” said Dr Beatrice Mpora, director of Kairos, a community health organisation in Gulu, a town that was once the centre of the rebels’ activities. “There has not been a single soul from the LRA here since 2006. Now we have peace, people are back in their homes, they are planting their fields, they are starting their businesses. That is what people should help us with.”

http://innovateafrica.tumblr.com/post/18897981642/you-dont-have-my-vote

Uganda’s Oil Could Be Gift That Becomes a Curse
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/26/world/africa/uganda-welcomes-oil-but-fears-graft-it-attracts.html?_r=2

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KAMPALA, Uganda — When billions of barrels of oil reserves were found in Uganda five years ago, the discovery seemed like a gift from heaven to many in this poor, landlocked country.

Taking ‘Kony 2012′ Down A Notch
http://justiceinconflict.org/2012/03/07/taking-kony-2012-down-a-notch/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks

This image really says it all:
http://i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg


Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

Kony is as bad as you can get but I think everyone is being played big time on this one.

There has been enough evidence even on this small post to make you ask, "what is the real agenda going on here?"

red baron wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 2:01pm:

Kony is as bad as you can get but I think everyone is being played big time on this one. There has been enough evidence even on this small post to make you ask, "what is the real agenda going on here?"

Oh dear, here I am agreeing 100% with the Baron again.  What's going on?

Yes, Kony is evil.

However, there's something about this slacktivism campaign that doesn't quite gel with me.

I remain skeptical, so I won't be buying the wrist band or t-shirt just yet.

So we listen to criticism from Uganda's elite profiteers who live in America and the Torygraph? Kony's been going for over 25 years, the Guardian put out a video last year. What has the Kony 2012 campaigtn done wrong? Been too successful? Give it a break, by the end of this year Africa will be one pain in the arse less. Good start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPYciI99eks

There is many many terrorist all over world -- i have agreement that Kony is also bad man -- but what of Assad?,, what of Hamas?,, what of Ahmadeinjad??,, what of all Mugabe??

Is many many peoples that can be said for this -- not just is Kony.

The Guardians Polly Curtis has done an in depth investigation of invisible children. Some of the people she's interviewed share concerns. Most because of the films focus on Uganda when the LRA now operates in the Congo and other territory. I don't think that's relevant. Others are supportive.


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This from Save the Children's director of policy and advocacy, Brendan Cox: Anything which continues to pressurise world leaders to bring Joseph Kony to justice is to be welcomed. Joseph Kony's crimes against children are well documented. Murder, recruitment of children as soldiers, mutilation and rape. This viral film shows that even though Joseph Kony is in hiding his crimes will not be forgotten.

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I've just been speaking with Liz Wainwright, an English photojournalist who completed research in Uganda for an Msc in 2009. During her time there she worked with Invisible Children and she gives a really nuanced views of their work. "Invisible Children have had a huge impact on the area. They are well respected by other NGOs. I worked alongside them and they were very solutions focused. They didn't sit around talking for too long and checked with experts and that the local people wanted what they were doing. So many organisations stomp in, do what they do and leave. It was very needs driven. My impression over the past few years is that they've got very shiny and slick. The media campaigning is a different type of work to on the ground project work they do. I think they need to decide whether they go down the route of media campaigns or do project work. The film is very sensationalist about the conflict in Uganda."

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Ryan Devereaux in our New York office writes: I managed to speak to Ida Sawyer, a Congo researcher with Human Rights Watch currently based in Goma. Sawyer has studied the Lord's Resistance Army for several years. She made a number of positive comments regarding Invisible Children's work in the region outside of Uganda. "From out perspective at Human Rights Watch, we definitely support the message of the film and we think it's great that they're bringing so much attention to the film with Kony's crimes and the phenomena of the LRA," Sawyer said.

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PolPup - This whole thing has been about getting US troops into Uganda. What are you talking about? The war in Iraq caused the death of millions of innocent Iraqi civilians and these people had more responsibility then any western population before the US came in and raped everything.

No it hasn't, it's about this guy killing and mutilating for a quarter of a century and getting away with it beause it suits the suits. As far as Iraq - I couldn't agree more, that's essentially what I was saying.

Response to criticism from Invisible Children.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/13/kony-2012-maker-defends-campaign?intcmp=239

This is just war propaganda from the us. A us-body uploaded the video >.>

Also what else is in uganda? and Africa? oh thats right untapped oil reserves.

So what they do they bring up  topic that happened around 20 years ago. I cant believe so many got brainwashed with this load of rubbish get the facts fools.
kony hasnt been in uganda for the past 6 years == i wonder why oh thats right hes in his grave.

America starts wars it creates enemies what would its military be without a mission? 70-80% of americans are fools and totaly clueless on what is happening Evidence = obama. To much fear mongering.

Grey wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 10:53pm:

So we listen to criticism from Uganda's elite profiteers who live in America and the Torygraph? Kony's been going for over 25 years, the Guardian put out a video last year. What has the Kony 2012 campaigtn done wrong? Been too successful? Give it a break, by the end of this year Africa will be one pain in the arse less. Good start.

From all sources in the know it would appear that Kony and the LRA have not been seen for many years in Uganda.
The Ugandan people are adamant that he and his army are no longer a threat and somehow I think they would know.
The huge successes of the campaign is of some concern as I don’t believe it could have been so successful without some help from people high up. The social network viral technique seems to have been mastered not long ago with the SOPA/PIPA internet outrage.
About a week before people got mad about SOPA/PIPA there was a small outrage online about the NDAA(Indefinite detention act) which was quickly crushed when people starting worrying about SOPA/PIPA which is a much less bad bill.
Even if we do remove Kony which will be a military effort costing the lives of thousands of Ugandan people, there will be someone else taking his said place within two seconds.
Plus you have to pick your sides, and getting the US army to solve a problem does not seem like a smart idea does it.
Every war they go in for humanitarian issues, they end up creating much worse a problem and installing dictators or militia forces which would be 100x worse then Kony.


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"Invisible Children have had a huge impact on the area. They are well respected by other NGOs. I worked alongside them and they were very solutions focused. They didn't sit around talking for too long and checked with experts and that the local people wanted what they were doing. So many organisations stomp in, do what they do and leave. It was very needs driven. My impression over the past few years is that they've got very shiny and slick. The media campaigning is a different type of work to on the ground project work they do. I think they need to decide whether they go down the route of media campaigns or do project work. The film is very sensationalist about the conflict in Uganda."

I cant help but think that if this was true they would have shown some of that in the Movie.


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Response to criticism from Invisible Children. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/13/kony-2012-maker-defends-campaign?int...

This only really addresses the fiscal issues which is not what people should be concerned about.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 11:03pm:

There is many many terrorist all over world -- i have agreement that Kony is also bad man -- but what of Assad?,, what of Hamas?,, what of Ahmadeinjad??,, what of all Mugabe?? Is many many peoples that can be said for this -- not just is Kony.

Maybe we can look at getting rid of those guys after we stop the sick Israeli and US terrorist governments.

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Even if we do remove Kony which will be a military effort costing the lives of thousands of Ugandan people, there will be someone else taking his said place within two seconds. Plus you have to pick your sides, and getting the US army to solve a problem does not seem like a smart idea does it. Every war they go in for humanitarian issues, they end up creating much worse a problem and installing dictators or militia forces which would be 100x worse then Kony.

Your judgement of the US military is correct. I don't think IC are advocating that approach at all. If the US wanted to do a regime change and resource grab they wouldn't need IC to make their minds up for them. Anyway we'll see how this pans out. At this stage I'm all for ordinary people using social media to by pass government and get on with it. 

'Remove Kony'? He isn't even in Uganda. Word is he only has a few hundred followers left anymore. The last thing America needs is another humanitarian intervention spurred on by Facebook likes (by people who will never have to endure the physical brunt of such a military expedition), regardless of how small.

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'Remove Kony'? He isn't even in Uganda

So what? He still operates as he has for 25 years. Hacking kids lips off for disobedience, raping and murdering villagers getting children to gun down their parents. He gets away with it because the problem is too small for big players. Why shouldn't the NGO that works in the region and knows the harm caused by this group take it on themselves to do something? You have a problem with an aid agency NOT being pacifist at all cost?

Grey wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 12:32am:

Quote: 'Remove Kony'? He isn't even in Uganda So what? He still operates as he has for 25 years. Hacking kids lips off for disobedience, raping and murdering villagers getting children to gun down their parents. He gets away with it because the problem is too small for big players. Why shouldn't the NGO that works in the region and knows the harm caused by this group take it on themselves to do something? You have a problem with an aid agency NOT being pacifist at all cost?

It is questionable as to whether he is still even operating.

Mate, I know these people should be stopped; I feel your pain when you learn of stuff like this happening. But this cause is just not worth it, it’s simply not going to do anything constructive.

If ngo's in the area really cared they would be stopping the Ugandan government before Kony, who have been shown to be 100x worse.

This whole thing is dodgy, stand back wait for emotions to die down and try and seriously evaluate this.
We have seen it before, the results have always been the same; the catalyst has not.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 8:13am:

Grey wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 12:32am: Quote: 'Remove Kony'? He isn't even in Uganda So what? He still operates as he has for 25 years. Hacking kids lips off for disobedience, raping and murdering villagers getting children to gun down their parents. He gets away with it because the problem is too small for big players. Why shouldn't the NGO that works in the region and knows the harm caused by this group take it on themselves to do something? You have a problem with an aid agency NOT being pacifist at all cost? It is questionable as to whether he is still even operating. Mate, I know these people should be stopped; I feel your pain when you learn of stuff like this happening. But this cause is just not worth it, it’s simply not going to do anything constructive. If ngo's in the area really cared they would be stopping the Ugandan government before Kony, who have been shown to be 100x worse. This whole thing is dodgy, stand back wait for emotions to die down and try and seriously evaluate this. We have seen it before, the results have always been the same; the catalyst has not.

Huh? No, it's not questionable as to him still operating. And the LRA has crossed my radar repeatedly over the years. For years I wonder why he is allowed to get away with it. Of course I'm going to support anybody who wants more people to ask the same question.

Africa is poor and people are starving precisely because of this small scale terrorism. In the past such groups were funded by South Africa to create a buffer of instability. They are funded by multinationals to cover the plunder of diamonds and rare minerals.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/dec/30/apple-time-make-conflict-free-iphone

Africa is largely a fertile region with plenty of water. The people have farming skills and with technological help, (wells and cheap poly irrigation) they can easily feed themselves. Africa's problems stem from conflict. Conflict that itself stems from the irrational carve up by colonialism that paid no heed to tribal boundaries and conflict created by foreign interests.

Some countries like Botswana have got their shyt together, but still have to contend with the influx of refugees fleeing conflict, on a scale that make a mockery of Australia's boat people.

Western governments do nothing to stop people like Kony. It's not in their national interest and most of the time it works for their national interest. It was part of the cold war game and destabalisation was the main purpose of the CIA, (see South America).

You're all wrong about a new initiative that's using people power. You campaign against it and your the useful idiot, not me.   

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Huh? No, it's not questionable as to him still operating. And the LRA has crossed my radar repeatedly over the years. For years I wonder why he is allowed to get away with it. Of course I'm going to support anybody who wants more people to ask the same question.

Well there are plenty of people from the area saying otherwise.
Regardless there is no specualtion in the fact that the government and leaders of Uganda are much worse and have killed far more people.


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Africa is poor and people are starving precisely because of this small scale terrorism. In the past such groups were funded by South Africa to create a buffer of instability. They are funded by multinationals to cover the plunder of diamonds and rare minerals.

Small scale terrorism and poverty are both products of installed western dictatorships and the financial monopoly controlled over their economies and reserouces.
You won’t solve the problem by removing kony, you will however begin to make a real difference by removing the things that cause such people such as multinational corporations funding these groups like you have stated.


The link you have posted is a good taste of reality but will sadly never receive the attention that kony got even tho it deserves it much more.

It seems like you agree with me on the cause of these issues. So why are you so worried about removing the product of such causes when you could be for removing the cause outright?


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Some countries like Botswana have got their shyt together, but still have to contend with the influx of refugees fleeing conflict, on a scale that make a mockery of Australia's boat people.

On the other hand Libya which got its schit together better than most western nations got f'd up because it wasn’t under western control and was using its resources to fund its progress.


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Western governments do nothing to stop people like Kony. It's not in their national interest and most of the time it works for their national interest. It was part of the cold war game and destabalisation was the main purpose of the CIA, (see South America).

Which is exactly why this wouldn’t be such a big thing if it wasn’t of national interest for the US.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Which is exactly why this wouldn’t be such a big thing if it wasn’t of national interest for the US.

Well it could be a big thing because some people worked hard and did well. There's been sillier YT clips that have gone viral. Imperium puts them up all the time. You seem to take the attitude that because IC are founded in the USA they must be an offshoot of Halliburton. You might be right, but I'm not such a conspiracy nut that I'd assume that. Most people in the USA are as opposed to the kleptomaniac class as you and I, mostly they are more inclined to be the direct victims.

Grey wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 2:59pm: Which is exactly why this wouldn’t be such a big thing if it wasn’t of national interest for the US. Well it could be a big thing because some people worked hard and did well. There's been sillier YT clips that have gone viral. Imperium puts them up all the time. You seem to take the attitude that because IC are founded in the USA they must be an offshoot of Halliburton. You might be right, but I'm not such a conspiracy nut that I'd assume that. Most people in the USA are as opposed to the kleptomaniac class as you and I, mostly they are more inclined to be the direct victims.

Time will tell I guess.
What I have no doubt of is that social media can and will be used either now or in the future for bad purposes by big government or corporations.
It’s to powerful a tool for them not to have mastered already.

It’s not really to do with where they are from, I think any call to war is dodgy and without a doubt this whole thing has been dodgy.

See the amazing thing about kony is it made anti war people pro war, now I know social influence is a powerful tool but it really does make me wonder how manipulable the population is.

This Kony thing is SO AMERICAN....SO CAN OF COKE....It is like watching some of the sunday morning church broadcasts...when the audience gets really revved up.

Do I believe this Kony thing will make a difference?...It might get him found, it might get him killed...but it is like the latest soap opera on TV and will achieve exactly zero.

Like John Lennon said, "what''s the next big thing?"

This is the latest Internet sensation and Kony is famous for his fifteen seconds.

This is the latest Internet sensation and Kony is famous for his fifteen seconds.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JICJba5SIk4&feature=g-u-u&context=G2b2ce7cFUAAAAAAAAAA

hold on china,

KONY 2012 Masturbation Meltdown

Jason Russell, head of the viral KONY 2012 video urging military action in Africa, was taken into police custody and later taken to the hospital after reportedly masturbating in public, vandalizing cars and other bizarre activity. TMZ released video showing Russell naked on a public street corner wildly pounding the ground apparently raving mad.

The KONY 2012 video rapidly received more than 80 million views this week, prompting a deluge of criticism and scrutiny from viewers, as well as urging from numerous public figures to send AFRICOM troops into the region.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw8fA962X8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw8fA962X8

Hasn't America had troops there for almost five years looking for Kony? I think they know exactly where he is. They just want an excuse to send more troops in, start a war between the two factions, split the country in two, Kony half and then place an American puppet as the leader, the oil rich part of course.

Don't laugh, remember Sudan? Libya will be next, the oil rich part will be the true govt.  This method seems to work well and is the current trend.

The video darkhall.......funny but did Angelina Jolie get one of those African plates put into her bottom lip when she picked up her last kid? A political whore she is.

well the object may have been kony

but Jason Russell, head of the viral KONY 2012 video

sure is famous

enjoy

namaste

Angelina Jolie is the UN spokesperson for war..

should she be arrested?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGEBmSmOqI&context=C46e67a1ADvjVQa1PpcFOVvqnVN23oiYOHJCDvGCZryRMxUaeCP_g=

Arrest Angelina Jolie For War Crimes: Kony 2012

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 3:20pm:

Angelina Jolie is the UN spokesperson for war.. should she be arrested? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGEBmSmOqI&context=C46e67a1ADvjVQa1PpcFOVvqnVN23oiYOHJCDvGCZryRMxUaeCP_g= Arrest Angelina Jolie For War Crimes: Kony 2012

She should be, the entire UN and NATO should be, most people in the US/UK/Israeli and many other nations governments and high ranking military officals should be, thousands of corporate fat cats should be..

Grey wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

The guy who started this campaign is just as ordinary as you and me.

I HOPE not !



KONY 2012 Director Detained, Org. Tied to Antigay Groups
March 16, 2012

It's been discovered that Jason Russell, the director of the viral video on Ugandan war lord Joseph Kony, may have connections to rightwing antigay organizations. But that's not his only problem —he was detained Thursday by San Diego police for masturbating in public.

He was arrested Thursday after allegedly vandalizing several cars and masturbating in the streets while possibly being under the influence of alcohol or drugs

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2012/03/16/KONY_2012_Director_Detained_Org_Tied_to_Antigay_Groups/

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw8fA962X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw8fA962X8

Okay 10 o'clock were pretty convincing. I find the hristian angle alarming (not to mention Russels melt down)  ;D ;D ;D

I don't care Kony isn't in Uganda, he's a target wherever. Obviously a problem is having an open ended fund raiser. There should be a plan and a cut off point. And clearly there are problems with invisible children.

I think the answer now is for everybody to pay me. My plan is to hire Somali mercenaries who I've been  reliably informed, work for $10 a day and are totally reliable. I'll appoint Maori NCO's and a back up force of greens under the command of Peter Cundall (on life support).

We'll do a sweep through Africa taking care of the bad guys and missionaries. We'll make sure no child goes without ice-cream or brussels sprouts.

How's that for starters?

<<We'll do a sweep through Africa taking care of the bad guys and missionaries. We'll make sure no child goes without ice-cream or brussels sprouts.>>
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Throw in an AFL ball for ever kid and you'll have Julia's complete backing.

Ever heard about the one where the Leader of Uganda would like some ore U.N. Troops there?

He replied, "yeah man the last batch was delicious!"

Trite I know, but this Kony thing has been the beat up of the century, it is not like it's old news about the plight of Uganda but if someone is looking for the U.N. to act then just check their track record on preventing genocide.

Kony is not a beat up. He is a real criminal who needs to be brought to justice. I haven't come across anyone who doesn't accept that. The question I'd like answered is how?

Grey wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Huh? No, it's not questionable as to him still operating. And the LRA has crossed my radar repeatedly over the years. For years I wonder why he is allowed to get away with it. Of course I'm going to support anybody who wants more people to ask the same question.

Having spent some time in a number of African countries, I know how he gets off with it. Some African countries are making an effort to improve the levels of corruption. Ghana and Tanzania are two countries I would definitely visit again.  Kenya is not bad either.

I will never go back to Guinea or Mali. I could tell you a few very interesting stories. The best chance of being left alone is for a company is to make regular donations to the police. Christmas time was the customary time in this particular example.

Cars with Europeans are generally targetted at police checkpoints, while local cars are allowed to pass with no checks for insurance or other documentation. The slightest clerical error will require some money to change hands. A colleague was stopped on one occasion for running a red light (he didn't). He was held up and harassed for 2 hours because of this trumped up charge, A week later, a company representative visited the  police chief. He expressed his displeasure at the way his employee had been treated. The head of police was apologetic. He appreciated the way in which the company assisted the police (with their annual donations) The police chief arranged a line-up for my colleague. He identified the police officer straight away. He was just leaving the building when he heard the first blow being delivered.

That's just one of my personal experiences. I also heard that it's easy to pay for somebody to get killed. You just pay the police the going rate.   

Many countries in Africa are still lawless. Unspeakable things happen. If they capture Kony, maybe it will be a start.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

Kony is not a beat up. He is a real criminal who needs to be brought to justice. I haven't come across anyone who doesn't accept that. The question I'd like answered is how?

Of course you haven’t met someone who doesn’t agree.
It’s a social trend, there are very basic studies which show 90% of a crowd will follow or do something for no reason other than that other people are doing it.
It’s not a choice it’s actually a forced reaction for most people.
People don’t want to be left out or seem weird, goes back to very simple evolutionary principles.

The people who take a step back and actually evaluate the situation properly and review the facts from both sides of the story will probably not support kony 2012.


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Conformity is changing one's behavior because of perceived pressure. Solomon Asch conducted a famous study on conformity in which seven subjects were asked to judge line lengths. Six of the subjects were confederates of the experimenter and gave wrong responses, and on many occasions, the real subject conformed and also gave wrong responses. In Stanley Milgram's well-known study of obedience to authority, subjects were told that they were assisting in a learning experiment and were ordered to give other subjects (confederates of the experimenter) shocks when they made an incorrect response. Although shocks were not actually given, the real subjects were told that shock intensity increased as the experiment progressed. To the amazement of all, all the subjects (supposedly assisting the experimenter), even though they became agitated, continued to obey the experimenter and to administer shocks even at shock intensities they believed to be 300 volts. At that time, the supposed learner pounded the wall as though in pain, and 22% of the subjects refused to continue. Others, however, did continue and increased the intensity to 450 volts.

Spare me the psychobabble and tell me what you believe.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

Spare me the psychobabble and tell me what you believe.

Read my other posts in this thread

Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice.

I dont think he should be brought to justice

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 11:50am: Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice. I dont think he should be brought to justice

So you think he should be ignored, allowed to continue his path in relative obscurity?

Grey wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:03pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 11:50am: Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice. I dont think he should be brought to justice So you think he should be ignored, allowed to continue his path in relative obscurity?

Yeah, stopping him is not going to help anything, will waste a lot of money, and probably have a lot of collateral damage.
I support stopping the causes of people like him.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 11:50am: Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice. I dont think he should be brought to justice

Is there anyone on the ICCs most wanted list that you think should be brought to justice?

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 12:39pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:03pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 11:50am: Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice. I dont think he should be brought to justice Is there anyone on the ICCs most wanted list that you think should be brought to justice?

Not really,
we can remove all of them and there will be another 100 of them the next day.
Prevention is better than cure.

Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony.

Yeah it does

I did not say 'Kony is a beat up' what I am alluding to is that this thing has been turned into something else altogether.

I mean 'make Kony famous' give me a break. Sure go get him blast his rotten freaking head off...but make him famous? Like the Ugandan lass said on her video, there are any amount of Konys in Uganda.

If the world was serious then send a joint task force from the U.N. would go in and just sort it. But you and I now that will never ever happen because the United Nations is the most corrupt useless pile of crap I have ever seen.

The U.S. doesn't want to know so I don't like Uganda's chances of getting rid or their Warlords anytime soon.

Now that makes me sick.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does

What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:17pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen.

Well I would start by removing the financial monopoly which causes these countries to be in poverty, which in result causes billions of people to starve and is the environment which breads warlords; which is about 1000000000x more of an atrocity than Kony and rests in the hand of western bankers

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm

inancial Wizards & Wealthy Cults
The Rothschild Bloodline



(The numbers behind some sentences and words (...) are references to the bibliography list at the end of the article of course)

Two neighbor horse farmers came together one day to talk business. The first farmer sold his horse to the second for a quarter million dollars, and then bought it back for about $20 more. He could now advertise his horse (actually worth $20), as a horse he that he had paid over a quarter of a million dollars for.

We can laugh over such schemes. And perhaps we should laugh at ourselves for having been fooled, for if there is one area in life that exceeds the religious in deception, and touches all of us it is the financial. What else can we do about it except laugh? The famous poet Lord Byron describes the archtype of our two farmers in 1823, Who keeps the world, both old and new, in pain Or pleasure? Who makes politics run glibber all? The shade of Bonaparte’s noble daring?

Jew Rothschild and his fellow-Christian, Baring. You’ll learn about some other ,,neighbor horse traders" in this chapter too.

ROTHSCHILD TALKS ABOUT THEIR DYNASTY

Lord Rothschild in his book The Shadow of a Great Man quotes a letter sent from Davidson on June 24, 1814 to Nathan Rothschild, ,,As long as a house is like yours, and as long as you work together with your brothers, not a house in the world will be able to compete with you, to cause you harm or to take advantage of you, for together you can undertake and perform more than any house in the world."(1) The closeness of the Rothschild brothers is seen in a letter from Saloman (Salmon) Rothschild to his brother Nathan on Feb. 28, 1815, "We are like the mechanism of a watch: each part is essential. (2) This closeness is further seen in that of the 18 marriages made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s grandchildren 16 were contracted between first cousins.

VISITING THE NATION THE ROTHSCHILDS BUILT

In 1974, in the summer after the Yom Kippur War this Author toured Israel, and got the chance to personally visit many of the buildings like the Knesset that the Rothschild’s money has built. The Knesset is the Israeli equivalent to our Congress’s Capitol building. One of the Rothschilds in his will left money for ongoing building projects in Israel, and the Rothschilds are honored with a Street named after them in Jerusalem.

The people of Germany and Turkey have been very close. I can recall meeting Turkish ,,Gastarbeiter" (guestworkers) in Germany. The reader will remember that Turkey fought on Germany’s side in W.W. I. A few powerful Jews, including the Rothschilds were responsible for the wording of the Treaty imposed on Germany that ended W.W. I (3) The treaty gave the Rothschilds the German owned railway rights in Palestine (which had been part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire), thus paving the way for the Rothschilds to have a sure leverage to dictate policy concerning Palestine. The Rothschilds had made loans to Turkey which amounted to almost one hundred million pounds. When the Turkish government collapsed after W.W. I because they were on the losing side, the Rothschilds had a claim on Palestine because of those unpaid Turkish loans.4 The British government followed the dictates of the Rothschilds. The British were given a mandate over Palestine, and the Rothschilds were able to through their proxies in the British government, to create the steps that led to the nation of Israel.(5)

THE ROTHSCHILDS AS "PROPHETS"

One item stands out as a person listens to the International Bankers and reads their books. They believe money is what makes the world go round. If you have money, you can do anything. Money is "God", and it is worshipped and served. Even after these families accumulate more than can be spent, these devotees continue selling their souls for this false but powerful god. The great poet-philosopher Heinrich Heine (a Banker’s son) said, "Money is the god of our time, and Rothschild is his prophet."6 Following the cue of the Rothschilds, Heinrich Heme, a Jew, signed his name by drawing a Seal of Solomon.7 Amsel Rothschild is reported to have said, "Give me control of the economics of a country; and I care not who makes her laws. (8) Today his descendents meet twice daily in London to dictate to the world what the world price of gold will be. They also dictate what the "Federal Reserve System" will do with America’s finances.

ANOTHER GOD TOO

According to eye-witnesses, who were prominent enough to visit one of the British Rothschild homes, the Rothschilds worship yet another god too, Satan. They set a place for him at their table.(8a) The Rothschilds have been Satanists for many generations. The Rothschilds are an important part of the history of the Seal of Solomon (also known as hexagram, Magen David, six-pointed star, Star of David.) The Seal of Solomon, the hexagram, was not considered a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds began using it.9 Throughout the Middle Ages the Seal of Solomon had been used by Arab Magicians, Cabalist Magicians, Druid witches and Satanists. One of the few ancient uses of the symbol was on the floor of a 1,200 year old Moslem Mosque found where Tel Aviv is today.10 In the twelve century an Ashkenazic Jew Menahem ben Duji, who thought he was the Messiah, used the magical symbol.11 Because the Rothschilds were Satanists they adopted this powerful magic symbol in 1822 for their coat- of-arms.

The name they adopted for their family actually comes from the fact that in the 17th century Mayer Amschel Bauer began hanging out a red hexagram in front of their house to identify it. Mayer Amschel then decided to take the name red-schield (Rothschild in German) after the red Seal of Solomon that they used. Alice Bailey in A Treatise On White Magic, p. 412, claims that the Hierarchy has a special group which she calls "the financial group" ,,controlling all that can be converted into energy, and constituting a dictatorship over all modes of intercourse, commerce and exchange." According the Luciferian Alice Bailey, the "financial group" is the latest group directed by the Hierarchy. In 1836 Zevi Hirsch Kalischer approached Rothschild and proposed Rothschild buy all of Erez Israel. It took many years for the Rothschilds to finally create Israel. The Rothschilds have been a primary force behind the creation of Israel, and so it is appropriate that the nation carries their magical Seal of Solomon as the state logo. The Ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel will not serve in the Israeli army because they know that Almighty God was not behind the creation of modern Israel, but rather the rich ungodly apostate Jews. They refuse to serve the ungodly. They are more wiser than men like Jerry Falwell who run around proclaiming Israel is God’s nation. Men like Falwell are the type that this Author finds reference to repeatedly in Jewish documents that speak of their power within the Fundamentalists. God is ultimately in charge, he has allowed Hitler to come to power, Stalin to come to power, and the Rothschilds to come to power. In the same sense that God rules over and blessed Stalin’s Russia, he rules over America and Israel.

To twist scriptures about God seating the rulers and then to apply them to bless one Satanic secular communist nation and not another is inconsistent and not correctly using the Word of Truth. Some people object that the conspiracy of Power is labelled Jewish rather than Satanic by certain concerned citizens. This objection is valid-- however, will these objectors then take the obvious next step and admit the nation of Israel which the Rothschild’s created is Satanic and not Jewish? But then who knows precisely why people do what they do? If you ask someone why he does something, he will give you one answer today, another tomorrow, and another the next day. Does he do what he does for a real reason, or a single motive? Perhaps to label the Power as only Satanic or only Jewish or only Masonic is to neglect the personal human dimension. This personal human dimension is godless. Being godless it fills that void, by pretending its men are gods. This brings us right back to the Gnostic religions and Satan. Most Jewish people do not concern themselves with learning the occultic significance to their treasured Magen David (Star of David). King David did not have anything to do with the hexagram, although his son Solomon did when he began worshipping Ashtoreth (star, also known as Astarte, Chiun, Kaiwan, Remphan, and Saturn).12 Solomon built altars to Star (Astarte, aka Ashtoreth). The god Saturn is associated with the Star but both Saturn and Astarte also been identified with a number of other names. Saturn is an important key to understanding the long heritage this conspiracy has back to antiquity. The city of Rome was originally known as Saturnia or City of Saturn. The Roman Catholic church retains much of the Saturn worship in its ritual. Saturn also relates to Lucifer.’13 In various occult dictionaries Saturn is associated with evil. Saturn was important to the religion of Mithra, and also the Druids.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD --connections to JWs, Mormons, and Judaism

It has been said all roads lead to Rome. For this book, it could be said all paths of investigation lead to the Rothschilds. Charles T. Russell, in a 1891 letter to Baron (Lord) Rothschild, mailed from Palestine, outlined possible courses of action that could be taken to establish the Jews in Palestine. Russell’s letters praised the Rothschild’s money which established Jewish colonies in Palestine. Russell writes Rothschild, ,,What is needed here, therefore, next to water and cleanliness, is a good government which will protect the poor from the ravenous and the wealthy. Banking institutions on sound bases, and doing business honorably, are also greatly needed " Russell continues,

"May the God of Jacob direct you, my dear Sir, and all interested with you in the deliverance and prosperity of Israel, and blessed will they be who, to any extent, yield themselves as his servants in fulfilling his will as predicted."(14) When the Mormon Church needed financing in the late 19th century, they went to Kuhn, Loeb Co.15 To explain the Rothschild’s control of Kuhn, Loeb Co. here is some background information. The method that the House of Rothschild used to gain influence, was the same that Royalty had used for centuries, marriage. The Rothschild children, girls and boys, have had their spouses chosen on the basis of alliances that would benefit the House of Rothschild, but since consolidating world power they generally have married cousins these last two centuries.’16 Jacob Schiff grew up in the house that the Rothschild’s had at 148 Judengasse, Frankfurt. Jacob Schiff came to the United States with Rothschild capital and took over control of a small jewish banking concern founded by two Cincinnati dry goods merchants Abraham Kuhn and Solomon Loeb. He even married Soloman’s daughter. In 1885, Loeb retired, and Schiff ran the Kuhn, Loeb Co. for the Rothschilds until 1920 when he died.17 During Russell’s and Brigham Young’s day, Lord Rothschild was considered the "lay leader of world Jewry."18 Edmund Rothschild was President of the Jewish Colonization Assoc,19 which was a major Zionist group. Amselm Rothschild indicated that his grandfather Amschel Mayer Rothschild had insisted in Clause 15 of his will to his children, "may they and their descendants remain constantly true to their ancestral Jewish faith."(20) However, the will has been secret and there is no way of knowing what it says.

The Rothschilds have not remained true to the Orthodox faith. If this was actually what Clause 15 said then something is amiss. The Jewish world has showered the Rothschilds with praises, "The Rothschilds govern a Christian world. Not a cabinet moves without their advice. They stretch their hand, with equal ease, from Petersburg to Vienna, from Vienna to Paris, from Paris to London, from London to Washington. Baron Rothschild, the head of the house, is the true king of Judah, the prince of the captivity, the Messiah so long looked for by this extraordinary people... .The lion of the tribe of Judah, Baron Rothschild, possesses more real force than David--more wisdom than Solomon." (21) The Prieure de Sion-the Elders of Sion22 also relates to the Rothschilds who are reported to serve on a jewish council of Elders of Sion.23 The Rothschilds have "helped" the Jewish people the Rothschild’s own way. For those who admire stingyness, the Rothschilds will be greatly looked up to. For instance, the extent of James Rothschild’s charity in France to poor Jews was 5 francs (the equivalent of $1). Their dynasty has destroyed honest Jews along with Christians. Today, few dare criticize the Rothschilds.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to secret societies

The Rothschilds had played a major role in the Bavarian Illuminati, (25) and it is known that a least one of the sons of Amsel was a member. As the reader remembers, Amsel placed his sons in the major European capitals, where they each set up the principal banking houses. By their own secret intelligence service and their own news network they could outmanouver any European government. (26) The large amounts of voluminous correspondence by Rothschild couriers attracted attention, (27) but no one ever stopped their personal intelligence and mail services. After the Bavarian illuminati were exposed, the central occult power over the European secret societies shifted to Carbonarism a.k.a. the Alta Vendita,(28) led by another powerful Rothschild, Karl Rothschild,29 son of Amschel. In 1818, Karl participated in a secret document that was sent out to the head-quarters of Masonry from the Alta Vendita.

The Masons were quite distressed when a copy of this was lost, and offered rewards to anyone who could return the lost copy. It was originally written in Italian. Its title translates ,,Permanent Instructions, or Practical Code of Rules; Guide for the Heads of the Highest Grades of Masonry."(30) The Masonic reference book 10,000 Famous Freemasons, Vol. 4, p.74, indicates two other sons of Amschel were Masons, James Meyer Rothschild, and his brother Nathan Meyer Rothschild. James Rothschild in Paris was a 33 degree Scottish Rite Mason, and his brother Nathan in London was a member of the Lodge of Emulation. And Jewish Freemason Katz indicates Solomon Meir Rothschild, a third member of the five brothers, was initiated into Freemasonry on June 14, 1809.(31) The Rothschilds became powerful within Freemasonry. We find the Saint-Simonians, the occult religious millenialist forerunners of communism, praising Baron de Rothschild in their magazine Le Globe, "There is no one today who better represents the triumph of equality and work in the nineteenth century than M. le Baron de Rothschild... .Was this Jew born a millionaire? No, he was born poor, and if only you knew what genius, patience, and hard work were required to construct that European edifice called the House of Rothschild, you would admire rather than insult it." Lionel de Rothschild (the de was added by the French Rothschilds) was involved with the first communist Internationale. The Mason Mazzini who helped start communism praised Rothschild, "Rothschild could be King of France if he so desired."32 Adoiphe Cremieux, was a french Jewish Mason (see chap. 1.4 for his credentials). The Rothschilds gave at least £ i ,000 to Cremieux to go to Damascus with Salomon Munk, and Sir Moses Montefiore to win the release of Jews imprisoned there, and to convince the Turkish Sultan to declare the charges of ritual murder false.33 According to the three Jewish authors of Dope, Inc. the B’nai B’rith was a spin-off of the Order of Zion and was organized as a ,,covert intelligence front" for the House of Rothschild. It is highly probable that the B’nai B’rith was used as a Rothschild intelligence cover. The Rothschilds are prominent in the Bilderbergers too. The Rothschilds were closely related to the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR).

Although many people today would not view the CFR as a secret society it was originally set up as part of a secret society and it was kept secret for many years, in spite of its awesome power. Carroll Quigley, professor of International Relations at the Jesuit Georgetown University, exposed the Round Table Group with his book Tragedy and Hope.(34) The Rothschilds supported Rhodes to form De Beers. (35) Later, Rhodes made seven wills which established a secret society modelled after the Jesuits and Masons to help bring in a One-World- Government centered upon Britain, and the Rhodes Scholarships.36 The inner group was established in Mar. 1891 and consisted of Rhodes, Stead, Lord Esher (Brett), and 33* Mason Alfred Milner.(33bb) A secondary circle of "potential members of the Circle of Initiates" consisted of the Jew Lord Balfour, Sir Harry Johnson, Lord Rothschild, Lord Grey and others. Initially, Lord Rothschild was part of the inner group of Rhode’s secret society, but was replaced by his son-in-law Lord Rosebury who wasn’t as conspicuous.37 The Fabian Socialists dominated the staff at Oxford when the Rhodes Scholars began arriving. These scholars then received indoctrination and preparation to become part of an international socialist New World Order.(38) The Round Table Group developed from the inner executive circle of Rhode’s secret society. The outer circle was established after the start of the 20th century. The Round Table Group was extended after W.W. I by organizing a front organization the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The Council of Foreign Relations was the American part of this front. The inner circle continues to direct the outer circle and its two front organizations RIIA and CFR. The CER in turn set up a number of fronts including the Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR).

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--management of the Catholic and Czars’ wealth and the capture of the Orthodox Church's wealth.

Early in the 19th century the Pope came to the Rothschilds to borrow money. The Rothschilds were very friendly with the Pope, causing one journalist to sarcasticly say "Rothschild has kissed the hand of the Pope...Order has at last been re-established."39 The Rothschilds in fact over time were entrusted with the bulk of the Vatican’s wealth. The Jewish Ency., Vol. 2, p.497 states, ,,It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure." Researcher Eustice Mullins writes that the Rothschilds took over all the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church in 1823.(40) Today the large banking and financial business of the Catholic Church is an extensive system interlocked with the Rothschilds and the rest of the International Banking system.

The great wealth of the Russian Czars was entrusted to the Rothschilds, $35 million with the Rothschild’s Bank of England, and $80 million in the Rothschild’s Paris bank. The Rothschilds financed the Russian Revolution which confiscated vast portions of the Orthodox Church’s wealth. They have been able to prevent (due to their power) the legitimate heirs of the Czars fortune to withdraw a penny of the millions deposited in a variety of their banks. The Mountbattans, who are related to the Rothschilds, led the court battles to prevent the claimants from withdrawing any of the fortune. In other words, the money they invested in the Russian Revolution, was not only paid back directly by the Bolshevists in millions of dollar of gold, but by grabbing the hugh deposits of the Czars’ wealth, the Rothschilds gained what is now worth over $50 Billions.(41)

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--CONTROL OVER SATANISM & WITCHCRAFT

Chapter 2.11 gives the names of a Witchcraft Council of 13 which is under Rothschild control and in turn issue orders to various groups. One of the purest form of Satanism can be traced to the Jewish Sabbatain sect and its Frankist spinoff. The leaders of this up to the Rothschilds were:

Sabbatai Zevi (1626-1676)

Nathan of Gaza (16??-?)

Jacob Frank (1726-1791)

Rothschilds

Three connections between Satanism, evil, and money.

Money naturally attracts itself to evil. For instance, if a woman prostitutes herself she may receive a great sum of money, but who will pay her for keeping her virginity or her dignity? If you are a hit man a large amount of money is yours if you kill your target, who will pay you if you would miss your target?

Second, evil men believe in where there is a will there is a way, and they are willing to sell their souls for their God money. They will employ evil to gain money.

While most people are quite aware of these last two connections, a third may likely have escaped their attention. Thirdly, the principle group of men who cranked up International Banking were Satanists from the beginning. These Satanists now are the ones who run the Federal Reserve and are responsible for the creation of U.S. Federal Reserve notes. Just having total control over the supply of U.S. paper money almost gives them leverage over the world’s finances, without mentioning they control the world bank. It is no accident then, that once they established world financial control, they would do all in their power to divide and conquer and destroy both the Christian and the Moslem faith in God. These powerful Bankers relate to faith in God as Cain related to his brother Abel. That they may be related to the Jewish people, does not mean they have the Jewish people’s best interest at heart. Initially Sabbetai Zevi was rejected by many Jews. His sect gained momentum in second half of the seventeenth century in southeastern Poland.(42) In 1759-60, 500 Jewish Sabbateans ,,converted" to Christianity.43 In 1715, 109 of the 415 Jewish families in Frankfurt were engaged in moneylending. The rest were merchants of various kinds. The concepts that Satanism holds to were a natural shoe in to justify for many of these Jewish bankers the type of behavior they were engaged in." (44)



LONG-STORY SHORT

Many divisions and battles between religious elements in the world have been encouraged and supported by the Power’s wealth. Unfortunately, many have been fooled into thinking that being devout and faithful to God is the source of religious fighting. In some areas of the world, Moslems, Christians, and others have gotten along fine for centuries. Religious tensions do spring to some degree from within the religions themselves, but the fuel to keep those fires burning and to light up conflicts often come from the Power’s wealth. An obvious example is the Iran-Iraq war.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--CONTROL OVER W.W. I TREATY

When Germany fell, not only did Rothschild agents draft the treaty, prepare the idea of the League of Nations, but Max Rothschild was one of 11 men who took control over Bavaria. Max Rothschild was a Freemason in Lodge No. 11, Munich, Germany.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to MI5, Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, CFR, et. al.

Victor Rothschild, who worked for J.P. Morgan & Co., and was an important part of MI5 (British Intelligence). Victor Rothschild was also a communist and member of the Apostles Club at Cambridge.45 Lord Rothschild was one of the original members of Rhode’s Round Table group which developed into the CFR. It was the Rothschilds who had financed Cecil Rhodes, beginning in Africa. The Rothschilds’ have several agents which their money got started and who still serve them well, the Morgans and the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers were Marrano Jews. The original Rockefeller made his money selling narcotics, (they weren’t illegal then). After acquiring a little capital he branched out in oil. But it was the Rothschild capital that made the Rockefeller’s so powerful. "They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman (railroads) and Andrew Carnegie Steel."(46)

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--Power within Christendom

The Rothschilds also wielded much influence and power not only in Secret Societies, but also in Christendom’s churches. The Salvation Army under the suggestion of the Rothschilds adopted the Red Shield (Roth-red Schild-shield) for their logo. One history of the Rothschilds remarks, "The Rothschilds had rapidly propelled themselves into a position of immense financial power and political influence. They were an independent force in the life of Europe, accountable to no one and, to a large extent, reliant on no one. Popular lampoons depicted them as the real rulers of Christendom..."(47) Some of the Rothschilds have been involved in the campaign to loosen public morals. The first executive Secretary of the National Student Forum was John Rothschild. This National Student Forum changed its name like articles of clothing. Speaking about clothing, one of the aims of this Socialist group was to promote public nudity, and free love. This organization had the following constituent groups Radcliffe Liberal Club, Union Theological Seminary Contemporary Club, Yale Liberal Club"(48) to name just a few. A further development of this was the Youth Peace Federation which consisted of the League of Youth of Community Church, Methodist Epworth League, NY District, Young Judea, and Young People’s Fellowship of St. Phillip’s Parish49 to name a few. American religious men have ties to the Rothschilds especially through their various agents.

Harry Emerson Fosdick, who was Pastor of Rockefeller’s church was also among the Presidents of the Rockefeller Foundation. John Foster Dulles, CFR, was chairman of the board of the Rockefeller Foundation, and married a Rockefeller, Janet Pomeroy Avery. Remember John Foster Dulles was an important Federal Council of Churches of Christ official. (See chap. 2.9) Every road leads back to the Rothschilds. There are more items than what have been mentioned above linking the Rothschilds to the various tenticles. Each of the various tenticles that conspiracy theorists have put forth,--the Jews, the Masons, the Intelligence Communities, the International Bankers, the Prieure de Sion, the Catholics, the Trilateral commission, the CFR, the New Age, the Cults-- each ties back to the Rothschild’s power.

http://www.news.com.au/world/jason-russells-wife-denies-drugs-involved-in-kony-film-makers-breakdown-where-he-was-allegedly-caught-masturbating/story-e6frfkyi-1226302928265

Jason Russell's Wife denies drugs involved in KONY film-maker's breakdown

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JASON Russell may be the most public face of Invisible Children, the nonprofit group he co-founded to stop African war atrocities. He narrates a 30-minute video on warlord Joseph Kony that went viral on the internet.
Less than two weeks after the video's smashing success, Invisible Children is facing the prospect of carrying on without Russell - at least for a while.

He was briefly detained by police and hospitalised after witnesses saw him running through streets in his underwear, screaming and banging his fists on the pavement.

Danica Russell said late Friday that her husband "did some irrational things brought on by extreme exhaustion and dehydration." She denied that alcohol or drug use triggered the behaviour.

"We thought a few thousand people would see the film, but in less than a week, millions of people around the world saw it.

While that attention was great for raising awareness about Joseph Kony, it also brought a lot of attention to Jason and, because of how personal the film is, many of the attacks against it were also very personal, and Jason took them very hard," she said.

"On our end, the focus remains only on his health, and protecting our family. We'll take care of Jason, you take care of the work," her statement continued. "The message of the film remains the same: stop at nothing."

San Diego police dispatcher transcripts show neighbours began calling around 11.30am on Thursday to report that a man was running around in his underwear in the city's Pacific Beach neighbourhood.

"(Subject) is at the corner, banging his hands on the ground, screaming, incoherent," the transcript says. "People are trying to calm him down, he's been stopping traffic."

Police Lt Andra Brown said a 33-year-old man was taken to a hospital for medical evaluation. He was never arrested, and no charges are planned.

"At this point, the police department's involvement in the matter is done," Brown said.

Russell, a San Diego native and graduate of the University of Southern California's film school, narrates the video, which has been viewed more than 80 million times on YouTube. In the video, Russell talks to his young son, Gavin, about Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army.

Gavin's birth is shown at the beginning of the film. At one point, the boy sums up what his dad does for a living.

"You stop the bad guys from being mean," he says.

At the video's conclusion Russell says, "At the end of my life I want to say that the world we left behind is one Gavin can be proud of, one that doesn't allow Joseph Konys and child soldiers."

Gavin replies: "I'm going to be like you dad. I'm going to come with you to Africa."

The video's overnight success has brought heightened scrutiny to the San Diego-based nonprofit over its tactics, governance and spending practices.

The group has been criticised for not spending enough directly on the people it intends to help and for oversimplifying the 26-year-old conflict involving the LRA and its leader, Kony, a bush fighter wanted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.

The group acknowledged the video overlooked many nuances but said it was a "first entry point" that puts the conflict "in an easily understandable format."

Kony's Lord's Resistance Army is a brutal Central Africa militia that has kidnapped thousands of children and forced them to become sex slaves, fight as child soldiers and kill family members during a 26-year campaign of terror.

The LRA began its attacks in Uganda in the 1980s, when Kony sought to overthrow the government. Since being pushed out of Uganda several years ago, the militia has terrorized villages in Congo, the Central Africa Republic and South Sudan.

Ben Keesey, who oversees the business side of the organisation while Russell makes films, said Friday that the last two weeks have taken a "severe emotional toll on all of us, Jason especially."

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master baiting is not the path to enlightenemnt

it will rob the self of divine spirituality and rather

supports lower dimensional manifestations of

the flesh though satanic spirituality

freewill so carry on regardless

all will go unto that which they do create

forgiven

namaste

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:26pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:23pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:17pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen. Well I would start by removing the financial monopoly which causes these countries to be in poverty, which in result causes billions of people to starve and is the environment which breads warlords; which is about 1000000000x more of an atrocity than Kony and rests in the hand of western bankers

Good luck with that.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:26pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:23pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:17pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen. Well I would start by removing the financial monopoly which causes these countries to be in poverty, which in result causes billions of people to starve and is the environment which breads warlords; which is about 1000000000x more of an atrocity than Kony and rests in the hand of western bankers Good luck with that.

And your suggesting we go fight a war against child soldiers?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:39pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:03pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 11:50am: Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice. I dont think he should be brought to justice Is there anyone on the ICCs most wanted list that you think should be brought to justice? Not really, we can remove all of them and there will be another 100 of them the next day. Prevention is better than cure.

Blowing scum off the top is one way of prevention. If we listened to you we'd all be going Heil Hitler.

And don't tell me that would be a good thing, I'd have to hunt you down :-)

Grey wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:40pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:39pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 12:03pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 11:50am: Reading your other posts you seem to accept Kony is a criminal who should be brought to justice. I dont think he should be brought to justice Is there anyone on the ICCs most wanted list that you think should be brought to justice? Not really, we can remove all of them and there will be another 100 of them the next day. Prevention is better than cure. Blowing scum off the top is one way of prevention. If we listened to you we'd all be going Heil Hitler. And don't tell me that would be a good thing, I'd have to hunt you down :-)

You do realise that the same banking cartels creating poverty today were the ones who funded Hitler

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 2:19pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:26pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:23pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:17pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen. Well I would start by removing the financial monopoly which causes these countries to be in poverty, which in result causes billions of people to starve and is the environment which breads warlords; which is about 1000000000x more of an atrocity than Kony and rests in the hand of western bankers Good luck with that. And your suggesting we go fight a war against child soldiers?

Nothing so sporting. I'd say lure him out with a bag of money and fix him with a Barrett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyjU7WKvO9c

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 2:19pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:26pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:23pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:17pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen. Well I would start by removing the financial monopoly which causes these countries to be in poverty, which in result causes billions of people to starve and is the environment which breads warlords; which is about 1000000000x more of an atrocity than Kony and rests in the hand of western bankers Good luck with that. And your suggesting we go fight a war against child soldiers?

I've got no problem with US technology and intelligence augmenting the African hunt for Kony. It would have been better if it happened 10 years ago.

MOTR wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 3:41pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 2:19pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:26pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:23pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:17pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 1:08pm: Of course prevention is better than cure. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be put into arresting Kony. Yeah it does What are you suggesting and how are you going to make it happen. Well I would start by removing the financial monopoly which causes these countries to be in poverty, which in result causes billions of people to starve and is the environment which breads warlords; which is about 1000000000x more of an atrocity than Kony and rests in the hand of western bankers Good luck with that. And your suggesting we go fight a war against child soldiers? I've got no problem with US technology and intelligence augmenting the African hunt for Kony. It would have been better if it happened 10 years ago.

If they are trying to go to war you can rest assured it has nothing to do with kony