George Zimmerman: Did He Call Trayvon Martin A "F---ing Coon" Before Killing Him?

As outrage builds over last month's fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman, a Florida self-identified neighborhood watchman, police are coming under fire for missing a possible clue in the investigation: a racist remark that shooter George Zimmerman may have muttered under his breath just moments before he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

According to ABC News, George Zimmerman may have muttered "f***ing coons" as he pursued Martin while he was on the phone with 911. Sirius XM radio talk host Joe Madison claims to have enhanced the publicly available 911 recording and posted it on his website, which indeed does sound very similar to the alleged racial slur.

The Sanford Police Department admitted to ABC that its investigators had indeed missed the remark, only a day after the federal Department of Justice announced that it had begun a possible hate crime investigation...

...The remark captured on the 911 call is not the only time accusations of racism have been made in the media against George Zimmerman. The Miami Herald wrote that neighbors interviewed said that "Zimmerman went door-to-door asking residents to be on the lookout, specifically referring to young black men who appeared to be outsiders, and warned that some were caught lurking."...

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/317086/20120320/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-sanford-florida-racist.htm

lets remember that george zimmerman isn't white. he's hispanic. he does in no way look white...but still people are trying to push the white/black thing.

scotty 1969 wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

lets remember that george zimmerman isn't white. he's hispanic. he does in no way look white...but still people are trying to push the white/black thing.

Do the police have a long history of covering up crimes by hispanics in the USA ?

I didnt think so...

Talk about staged - orchestrated - hysterical beat-up by the whore media

on the eve on a election featuring a self-professed black president who spent millions (where did he get millions?) to lock up virtually all record of his past (like the ban on revealing why his 'lawyer' alleged wife was disbarred

The Trayvon hysteria was, in my opinion, designed as trigger for 'race riots' and to polarise voters in addition to potraying the black president in sympathetic light

Then intrepid types dug through the interwebs until they hit upon young Trayvon's history.  Suddenly he was revealed as other than the media had been portraying him.  Expelled from two schools, it's alleged.  At the time of his death, it's alleged he was attending (loose interpretation) a last-ditch school for incorrigibles.  History of theft.  It's alleged he was charged with theft of jewellery and in possession of a screwdriver.  Gang member.  A rack of gold teefs.  Gang tatts.  And in tweets, texts, MySpace and Facebook, it's alleged he revealed a callous, misognyistic bent

So is Obama still claiming his hypothetical son would be just like Trayvon ?

Trayvon's mother seems to be doing well out of things, financially speaking

Zimmerman has been revealed as anything but the white 'cracker/honky/redneck' claimed by the media.  In fact, Zimmerman's being described now as Sephardic jew

As to whether or not Zimmerman called Trayvon an effing black - who cares ?  Anyone who spends any time online hears worse every day -- from the mouths of blacks -- as does anyone who steps into a cooked chicken outlet in the US or even watches same on Youtube

Trayvon was a big guy.  Zimmeman is not large.  Zimmerman needed a score of stitches to his head, courtesy of Trayvon.  And Trayvon is dead

US blacks are mouthing off about race wars.  US non-blacks don't mind that one bit because they've had more than enough of the Trayvons of the world.  Obama looks, as usual, like an idiot and is now seeming to back away from playing hypothetical father to a dead Trayvon, now Trayvon's unsavoury secrets are out of the closet.  And the whore-media --- which prides itself on its ability to 'form and shape opinion' has made another cynical fistful of dollars

Incidentally, if I'd been Zimmerman and having my skull smashed into the road by a 6'4" Trayvon, I'd have called the little thug more than mere 'effing black'.  I'd have shot him between the eyes in self defence and I'd be advising others to do likewise in defence of their lives, their property, their families, neighbours and friends

"Zimmerman" is Hispanic???

Jewish sounds more credible.

Sounds like plain self defence to me.

d.

Video shows Zimmerman without blood, bruises

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/03/28/zimmerman_youtube_620x350.jpg


A surveillance video shot after the slaying of Trayvon Martin shows admitted shooter George Zimmerman being led in handcuffs from a police car, frisked and led down a series of hallways.

Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern on Wednesday confirmed that the video being shown by ABC News is of Zimmerman. The 28-year-old's head and face are visible throughout.

Zimmerman told police that he shot the 17-year-old Martin on Feb. 26 after Martin attacked him. His attorney has said Zimmerman's nose was broken in the fight and the back of his head was gashed.

A lawyer for Martin's family says the video clearly shows that Zimmerman's nose wasn't broken and he had no noticeable blood on his head and face.

Police did not arrest Zimmerman, touching off widespread public outrage and protests across the country...

...Police did not administer a drug and alcohol test or an immediate background check on Zimmerman, although they did both on Martin.

The next day, detectives re-enacted the shooting with Zimmerman at the scene. They also discovered Zimmerman had two prior arrests: one for assaulting a cop, the other for domestic abuse....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

he didn't have any  blood on him because he was treated at the scene.

i'm sure we can see bruises on  grainy video footage

LifeMasque wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

"Zimmerman" is Hispanic??? Jewish sounds more credible. Sounds like plain self defence to me. d.

he has a hispanic mother and jewish father... but apparently according to the media , he's a white redneck.

my problem with this is the way the media is trying to stir up racial conflict.

Straight up race-baiting. 

People who are half Hispanic, half jewish cannot be racists?

Amongst Jews and Hispanics are some of the worst racists.

Standing my ground on Hispanics as racists

I got it. George Zimmerman is Hispanic. His mother is Hispanic.

This description is offered as if to say, “See, he can't be a racist.”

Well, no. But first let's talk about the relevancy of race generally here.

Before Neighborhood Watch volunteer Zimmerman shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in “self-defense” in Florida — perhaps while “standing his ground” — he told a 911 dispatcher that the teenager was acting suspiciously.

This teenager was “armed” only with candy and iced tea. He was walking in a neighborhood where he had lawful reason to be. But he was also a young black man wearing a hoodie.

We are counseled that there should be no rush to judgment here. OK, not even to ask whether there was a rush to judgment by Zimmerman? And if so, why?

Some of my correspondents tell me — often — that minorities play the race card to feign victimhood.

Martin isn't faking.

Please, let's not pretend that the unwarranted attention drawn — unto injury or death — when walking or driving while black doesn't happen. Also not uncommon: the malefactor not held accountable.

Which takes us to another issue here — the stand-your-ground law.

A recent story by San Antonio Express-News reporter Craig Kapitan gave chapter and verse on the similarities between Florida's law and Texas'.

Here's another. Both laws are flawed. Both remove the duty to retreat, even outside the home.

This makes no sense. Nothing defuses a confrontation more than one of the combatants vamoosing — if able. In Texas, our law pretty much instructs folks to stick around and gives license to use deadly force in defense.

To me, that says, “carry a gun.” NRA rejoice.

A Florida grand jury, the state and the Justice Department are investigating the Martin case. But this came only after national outrage erupted. As occurs here, it might have all ended with that police decision not to arrest, though prosecutions also occur.

Now consider what happens automatically when police shoot people.

The police conduct “parallel” internal investigations. The review goes to the district attorney, where the shooting is investigated again, and chances are high of further grand jury review.

I get it. Police act under color of authority. Public confidence is the issue, thoroughness therefore is the imperative.

But public confidence is also the issue, and the same kind of thoroughness should be the rule in stand-your-ground cases — particularly if the only other witness is unavailable to dispute the claim of self-defense. He's dead.

And, by the way, the New Black Panther Party's $10,000 “bounty” for a citizen's arrest of Zimmerman is an invitation to the kind of vigilantism that Zimmerman may have engaged in.

Back to Zimmerman's ethnicity. Not racist because he's Hispanic?

Yes, Hispanics can be racist, though common cause is more likely than not to promote empathy.

But the issue here is why the teenager was targeted. Zimmerman saw a young man “up to no good.” Why?

If the answer is, “Because he was black,” it doesn't matter whether the person thinking this is Hispanic or, as the Census puts it, non-Hispanic white.

Failing to consider race as a factor in this shooting is tantamount to naïveté. And using blots now surfacing on Martin's record — that Zimmerman knew nothing about — as cover for what occurred, speaks to something else entirely.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/news_columnists/o_ricardo_pimentel/article/Standing-my-ground-on-Hispanics-as-racists-3445978.php

Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.

Latino thugs indiscriminately murder blacks regardless of gang membership, genocidal purge aligns with radical Aztlan theology

Racist Mexican gangs are indiscriminately targeting blacks who aren't even involved in gang culture, as part of an orchestrated ethnic cleansing program that is forcing black people to flee Los Angeles. The culprit of the carnage is the radical Neo-Nazi liberation theology known as La Raza, which calls for the extermination of all races in America besides Latinos, and is being bankrolled by some of the biggest Globalists in the U.S.

A story carried on the liberal website Alternet, charts an explosion in brutal murders of blacks by Hispanic street gangs in L.A. Far from being gang on gang violence, the Latinos are targeting innocent blacks in accordance with a concerted ethnic cleansing campaign that seeks to eradicate all blacks from Hispanic neighborhoods.

In one instance, 21-year-old Anthony Prudhomme was shot in the face with a .25-caliber semi-automatic while lying on a futon inside his apartment, slain by a Latino gang known as the Avenues as part of a racist terror campaign in which gang members earn "stripes" for each black person they kill.

In one typical case," writes journalist Brentin Mock, "Three members of the Pomona 12 attacked an African-American teenager, Kareem Williams, in his front yard in 2002. When his uncle, Roy Williams, ran to help his nephew, gang member Richard Diaz told him, "black people have no business living in Pomona because this is 12th Street territory." According to witnesses, Diaz then told the other gang members, "Pull out the gun! Shoot the black people! Shoot the black people!"

The fatwah against blacks began in the mid-nineties, with a 1995 LAPD report concluding that Latinos had vowed to "Eradicate black citizens from the gang neighborhood." In a follow up report on the situation in east Los Angeles, the LAPD warned that "Local gangs will attack any black person that comes into the city."

The author notes that since 1990 the African-American population of Los Angeles has halved, partly as a result of rampant illegal immigration and that there are noticeably fewer blacks walking the streets because many have been forced to relocate in fear of the racist gangs.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/220107mexicangangs.htm

What a ridiculous thing to say falah (par for the course).  If anyone is "ethnic cleansing" blacks, it's other blacks.


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Homicide Type by Race, 1976-2005   Victims    Offenders White Black Other   White Black Other All homicides 50.9% 46.9% 2.1%   45.8% 52.2% 2.0% Victim/offender relationship                Intimate 56.6% 41.2% 2.2%   54.4% 43.4% 2.2% Family 60.7% 36.9% 2.4%   59.2% 38.5% 2.3% Infanticide 55.9% 41.6% 2.5%   55.4% 42.1% 2.5% Eldercide 69.2% 29.1% 1.6%   54.5% 43.8% 1.6% Circumstances                Felony murder 54.7% 42.7% 2.6%   39.1% 59.3% 1.6% Sex related 66.9% 30.5% 2.5%   54.7% 43.4% 1.9% Drug related 37.4% 61.6% .9%   33.9% 65.0% 1.1% Gang related 57.5% 39.0% 3.5%   54.3% 41.2% 4.4% Argument 48.6% 49.3% 2.1%   46.8% 51.1% 2.2% Workplace 84.6% 12.2% 3.2%   70.5% 26.7% 2.8% Weapon                Gun homicide 47.2% 50.9% 1.9%   41.9% 56.4% 1.7% Arson 58.9% 38.1% 2.9%   55.7% 42.0% 2.3% Poison 80.6% 16.9% 2.5%   79.8% 18.4% 1.8% Multiple victims or offenders                Multiple victims 63.4% 33.2% 3.3%   55.7% 40.8% 3.5% Multiple offenders 54.8% 42.5% 2.7%   44.6% 53.0% 2.4%

Formatting is a bit crap and I can't be bothered tidying it up, but you could always follow the link:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm

Over 52% of the murders, done by ~12% of the population.  Over 50% of the victims, also from ~12% of the population.   


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94% of black victims were killed by blacks

Also bear in mind that the "white" figure includes hispanics.  One can only speculate about the purposes of that little piece of statistical dishonesty.

The problem with those statisitcs is that we know that white people are far more likely to be aquitted of crimes by juries in the US.


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The Jury’s Color Matters: Study shows that all-white more likely to convict black defendants, acquit white defendants A new study shows all-white juries acquit white defendants and convict black defendants more frequently than juries with one or two black folks in the jury pool. In other words, getting an all-white jury is an excellent way to enhance your chances of beating a case if you’re white, and a great way to enhance your chances of losing one to lose one if you’re black. Thus, it’s not at all unreasonable for a black man in America—or perhaps more appropriately his lawyer—to speak up whenever his jury ends up with all salt and no pepper. Such are some of the lessons learned from the National Bureau of Economic Research report titled “Jury Discrimination in Criminal Trials.” “The evidence is straightforward and striking,” says the study by economics and public policy professor Shamena Anwar, of Carnegie Mellon University, Duke University economics professor Patrick Bayer, and Queen Mary University of London economics and finance professor Randi Halmarsson. “The presence of even one or two blacks in the jury pool results in significantly higher conviction rates for white defendants and lower conviction rates for black defendants.” The study is based on an analysis of all felony trials in Sarasota County, Florida where jury selection took place during a five-and-a-half-year period that spanned 2004 through June 1, 2009. Here are some of the paper’s stats:     In cases where there were no blacks in the jury pool, 84 percent of black defendants got convicted versus just 68 percent of white defendants.     However, when the jury pool included at least one black potential juror, conviction rates end up being nearly identical at 72-74 percent. http://campusprogress.org/articles/black_white_or...green_the_jurys_color_matters/

Chances of going to jail in the US:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

Whites use more drugs than blacks, but blaclks more often arrested:

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Drugs. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, among youths aged 12 to 17, the rate of current illicit drug use was 11.1 % among whites, and 9.3% among African Americans. [5] In a previous year, the same survey found that white youth aged 12 to17 are more than a third more likely to have sold drugs than African American youth. [6] The Monitoring the Future Survey of high school seniors shows that white students annually use cocaine at 4.6 times the rate of African Americans students, use crack cocaine at 1.5 times the rate of African Americans students, and use heroin at the same rate of African Americans students, and that white youth report annual use of marijuana at a rate 46% higher than African American youth. [7] However African American youth are arrested for drug offenses at about twice the rate (African American 314 per 100,000, white 175 per 100,000) times that of whites, [8] and African American youth represent nearly half (48%) of all the youth incarcerated for a drug offense in the juvenile justice system. [9] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/are-blacks-a-criminal-rac_b_8398.html

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Weapons. According to the Center on Disease Control's annual Youth Risk Behavior Survey, in 2001 whites and African Americans reported similar rates of carrying a weapon (whites 17.9%, African Americans 15.2%), and similar rates of carrying a gun (whites 5.5%, and African Americans, 6.5%). [10] African American youth represent 32% of all weapons arrests, and were arrested for weapons offenses at a rate twice that of whites (69 per 100,000, versus 30 per 100,000). [11] Assault. According to the Center on Disease Control's annual Youth Risk Behavior Survey, African Americans report being in a physical fight at a similar rate (36.5%, versus 32.5% for whites), but were arrested for aggravated assault at a rate nearly three times that of whites (137 per 100,000, versus 48 per 100,000). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/are-blacks-a-criminal-rac_b_8398.html

Interestingly, the vast overwhelming majority of murders in the US killed people of their own race:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/ovrace.png

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The problem with those statisitcs is that we know that white people are far more likely to be aquitted of crimes by juries in the US.

ahh yes the ol' "it's all a raciss conspiracy" defense. 

Yaaaawwn.  Can't believe anyone still buys that shite.

Ah! the old "black youth wearing a hoodie tried to hurt me - so I shot him dead" conspiracy.

I can't believe anyone still buys that sh1t.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 1^st, 2012 at 7:00am:

Ah! the old "black youth wearing a hoodie tried to hurt me - so I shot him dead" conspiracy. I can't believe anyone still buys that sh1t.

LOL.  Cos hooded (black) thugs never hurt nobody huh?


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Trayvon Martin case: Martin was the aggressor, police sources say

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-20120326,0,3121664.story

but let me guess - these sources are just part of da big raciss consirrrrrpcy to keep da black man o-pressed? 

... wrote on Apr 1^st, 2012 at 11:26am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 1st, 2012 at 7:00am: Ah! the old "black youth wearing a hoodie tried to hurt me - so I shot him dead" conspiracy. I can't believe anyone still buys that sh1t. LOL.  Cos hooded (black) thugs never hurt nobody huh? Quote: Trayvon Martin case: Martin was the aggressor, police sources say http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-20120326,0,3121664.story but let me guess - these sources are just part of da big raciss consirrrrrpcy to keep da black man o-pressed?

The police were not there, eye witnesses are saying the opposite. I know who I'd believe. I can't see how a skinny kid could be a threat to an oversized bloke like Zimmerman.

Was it the look he gave him or something? Looks can be deadly, I know.

The Zimmerman phonogram: NBC edits phone call to portray Trayvon Martin’s killer as racist?

http://rt.com/usa/news/trayvon-zimmerman-call-racist-902/


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NBC’s version of the phone call allegedly had Zimmerman say the following about Martin: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.” But in reality the two sentences were separated by a question the 911 dispatcher asked. The original phone call transcript ran like this: Zimmerman: "We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.  This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about." 911 Dispatcher: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?” Zimmerman: “He looks black.” If one compares the NBC version with the original transcript, it appears the channel jettisoned Zimmerman’s real explanation on why he thought Martin looked suspicious, and also got rid of the dispatcher’s question.

They blatantly stir the pot, then apologise.  But by then, the damage is done.


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NBC News apologized for the way it edited the 911 conversation between George Zimmerman and a police dispatcher in the Trayvon Martin case. NBC's "Today" show ran edited audio last week that appeared to reveal Zimmerman saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good ... he looks black." But a transcript of the 911 call showed that Zimmerman actually said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around, looking about." The 911 handler responded, "OK, and this guy -- is he black, white or Hispanic?"

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/04/04/nbc-news-apologizes-for-editing-george-zimmerman-11-call/#ixzz1r7uKIlFx

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:53am:

They blatantly stir the pot, then apologise.  But by then, the damage is done. Quote: NBC News apologized for the way it edited the 911 conversation between George Zimmerman and a police dispatcher in the Trayvon Martin case. NBC's "Today" show ran edited audio last week that appeared to reveal Zimmerman saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good ... he looks black." But a transcript of the 911 call showed that Zimmerman actually said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around, looking about." The 911 handler responded, "OK, and this guy -- is he black, white or Hispanic?" http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/04/04/nbc-news-apologizes-for-editing-george-zimmerman-11-call/#ixzz1r7uKIlFx

America is at a tipping point where something small could create large scale turmoil, I would love to see them apoligise if they caused something like that

The entire episode was manufactured to bring in some gun controls. Also they prolly want to get rid of that "stand your ground" law as well. Comon guys we have seen this crap before. There are shootings and deaths all over america every day. they gave this one publicity because it fits their agenda.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 11:23am:

The entire episode was manufactured to bring in some gun controls. Also they prolly want to get rid of that "stand your ground" law as well. Comon guys we have seen this crap before. There are shootings and deaths all over america every day. they gave this one publicity because it fits their agenda. SOB

It does a lot more then just pave the way for gun control.
If your worrying about something like this, then there is probably 100 worse things going on behind your back involving the government and other high influence peoples.

yeah.

Anyway the latest on this thing is Zimmerman made over $200k on his website where he asked for donations. He is getting rich out of it!

SOB

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 11:28am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:23am: The entire episode was manufactured to bring in some gun controls. Also they prolly want to get rid of that "stand your ground" law as well. Comon guys we have seen this crap before. There are shootings and deaths all over america every day. they gave this one publicity because it fits their agenda. SOB It does a lot more then just pave the way for gun control. If your worrying about something like this, then there is probably 100 worse things going on behind your back involving the government and other high influence peoples.

SOPA, CISPA, ACTA, etc?

The massive erosion of rights in the US is cause for concern.

Because when theirs go, ours are 100% guaranteed to follow.

Kat wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:28am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:23am: The entire episode was manufactured to bring in some gun controls. Also they prolly want to get rid of that "stand your ground" law as well. Comon guys we have seen this crap before. There are shootings and deaths all over america every day. they gave this one publicity because it fits their agenda. SOB It does a lot more then just pave the way for gun control. If your worrying about something like this, then there is probably 100 worse things going on behind your back involving the government and other high influence peoples. SOPA, CISPA, ACTA, etc? The massive erosion of rights in the US is cause for concern. Because when theirs go, ours are 100% guaranteed to follow.

This is a major concern. Some of these new laws are outrageous. What amazes me is that hardly an eyebrow was raised. There are the usual lefties who object and the 99%ers, but other than that no real outrage.

For ten years the American people have been so conditioned toward 'terrorism'. They are totally brainwashed, they have it in their ears 24/7, the terrorists are coming.

If the Americans were told they are having a computer chip stuck up their r's, I'm sure they'd all be only too happy to bend over.

They should be ashamed, they're forefathers fought long and hard for their constitutional rights, and they're eroded at the stroke of a pen. Too easy to rule the sheeples.

"Held indefinitely without charge".....................

Is this something you would agree to?

I'm sure it could and will happen here, and I'm sure the sheeples will be only too happy to go along with it, it's best for us, for our own good.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 7:33pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 5:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:28am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:23am: The entire episode was manufactured to bring in some gun controls. Also they prolly want to get rid of that "stand your ground" law as well. Comon guys we have seen this crap before. There are shootings and deaths all over america every day. they gave this one publicity because it fits their agenda. SOB It does a lot more then just pave the way for gun control. If your worrying about something like this, then there is probably 100 worse things going on behind your back involving the government and other high influence peoples. SOPA, CISPA, ACTA, etc? The massive erosion of rights in the US is cause for concern. Because when theirs go, ours are 100% guaranteed to follow. This is a major concern. Some of these new laws are outrageous. What amazes me is that hardly an eyebrow was raised. There are the usual lefties who object and the 99%ers, but other than that no real outrage. For ten years the American people have been so conditioned toward 'terrorism'. They are totally brainwashed, they have it in their ears 24/7, the terrorists are coming. If the Americans were told they are having a computer chip stuck up their r's, I'm sure they'd all be only too happy to bend over. They should be ashamed, they're forefathers fought long and hard for their constitutional rights, and they're eroded at the stroke of a pen. Too easy to rule the sheeples. "Held indefinitely without charge"..................... Is this something you would agree to? I'm sure it could and will happen here, and I'm sure the sheeples will be only too happy to go along with it, it's best for us, for our own good.

Isn't that exactly what the tea party have been bangin' on about for the last few years? 

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 7:33pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 5:44pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:28am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 11:23am: The entire episode was manufactured to bring in some gun controls. Also they prolly want to get rid of that "stand your ground" law as well. Comon guys we have seen this crap before. There are shootings and deaths all over america every day. they gave this one publicity because it fits their agenda. SOB It does a lot more then just pave the way for gun control. If your worrying about something like this, then there is probably 100 worse things going on behind your back involving the government and other high influence peoples. SOPA, CISPA, ACTA, etc? The massive erosion of rights in the US is cause for concern. Because when theirs go, ours are 100% guaranteed to follow. This is a major concern. Some of these new laws are outrageous. What amazes me is that hardly an eyebrow was raised. There are the usual lefties who object and the 99%ers, but other than that no real outrage. For ten years the American people have been so conditioned toward 'terrorism'. They are totally brainwashed, they have it in their ears 24/7, the terrorists are coming. If the Americans were told they are having a computer chip stuck up their r's, I'm sure they'd all be only too happy to bend over. They should be ashamed, they're forefathers fought long and hard for their constitutional rights, and they're eroded at the stroke of a pen. Too easy to rule the sheeples. "Held indefinitely without charge"..................... Is this something you would agree to? I'm sure it could and will happen here, and I'm sure the sheeples will be only too happy to go along with it, it's best for us, for our own good.

It's too late for the Americans now.

In WI, teachers are raising money to feed hungry students because the new governor targeted the people most in need for budget cuts. He also waged a full scake attack on collective bargaining rights. That's just one state - most of the others are heading in the same direction.

And even though the WI governor is a Republican,  this is under a Democratic federal government. Imagine what's going to happen when Obama is booted.

Never has there been so much wealth in the western world, and never has there been so much hunger. Something has gone seriously wrong.

I think it's too late to right it now.

Heres the latest.

Ppl still dont know whats going on.

SOB

Okay well heres the latest again

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/22/george-zimmerman-will-never-be-convicted-of-murdering-trayvon-martin.html

Too much to paste. In a nutshell this writer reckons Zimmerman will never be convicted because the law is on his side even though he stalked the kid and racially profiled him and shot him.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

Okay well heres the latest again http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/22/george-zimmerman-will-never-be-convicted-of-murdering-trayvon-martin.html Too much to paste. In a nutshell this writer reckons Zimmerman will never be convicted because the law is on his side even though he stalked the kid and racially profiled him and shot him. SOB

And he never should be convicted - The laws IS on his side...but with racial cowardice being what it is these days, theres still a chance he will sacrificed in an attempt to stop blacks rioting.

He was asked by 911 despatch what race he was.
He shot him after taking a hiding from him - ie self defence.


The whole affair is a disgusting web of lies, race-baiting, poo-stirring and PC cowardice. 

... wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 1:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 1:11pm: Okay well heres the latest again http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/22/george-zimmerman-will-never-be-convicted-of-murdering-trayvon-martin.html Too much to paste. In a nutshell this writer reckons Zimmerman will never be convicted because the law is on his side even though he stalked the kid and racially profiled him and shot him. SOB And he never should be convicted - The laws IS on his side...but with racial cowardice being what it is these days, theres still a chance he will sacrificed in an attempt to stop blacks rioting. He was asked by 911 despatch what race he was. He shot him after taking a hiding from him - ie self defence. The whole affair is a disgusting web of lies, race-baiting, poo-stirring and PC cowardice.

It said in that article that the guy reported "suspicious" ppl all the time and they were always black. That being said I already said this media crap should stop. Its not going to achieve anything except for changing the gun laws (which obviously need changing).

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Heh Zimmerman has been telling porkies. In fact looks like he was planning on skipping the country! He has been ordered back to jail. This casts an interesting light on the whole thing. . . . .

AND it doesnt look like he can say it was an accident either . . . .(the passport)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-judge-revokes-george-zimmerman-bond-20120601,0,4612322.story


Quote:

A Florida judge revoked the bail bond of George Zimmerman on Friday and ordered the man charged in the death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin to surrender within 48 hours. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester said Zimmerman had falsely represented his financial state when the $150,000 bond was set.  Lester ruled at a hearing at which prosecutors requested that the bond be revoked because Zimmerman's finances had been misrepresented and because the defendant had not revealed that he had a second passport. Zimmerman, 28, is charged with second-degree murder in the death of Martin, 17, in February. Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, has admitted shooting Martin, an African American, but has insisted that he acted in self-defense during a confrontation at a gated community in Sanford, Fla. Sanford police accepted Zimmerman’s claim and refused to charge him, leading to more than six weeks of racially charged protests. Florida Gov. Rick Scott eventually appointed a special prosecutor, who brought the second-degree murder charge. At his bail hearing on the murder charge, Zimmerman’s lawyers argued that the family had limited finances. Bond was eventually set at $150,000; Zimmerman posted it and was then released. He has been in seclusion, citing death threats. According to a transcript of the April bond hearing, Zimmerman's wife testified that they had limited funds since she was a nursing student and Zimmerman was unemployed. But  it was later revealed that Zimmerman had raised more than $200,000 from a website the family set up to solicit contributions for the defense. That money was not disclosed during the bail hearing. On Friday, prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda described the Zimmermans' testimony as false. “This court was led to believe they didn't have a single penny,” De la Rionda said. “It was misleading and I don't know what words to use other than it was a blatant lie.” Defense attorney Mark O'Mara argued that the omission was simply a misunderstanding. But Lester sided with prosecutors. Zimmerman  “can't sit back and obtain the benefit of a lower bond based upon those material falsehoods,” the judge said. Zimmerman also surrendered his passport to authorities as a condition of being released. But in their papers, prosecutors said Zimmerman had a second passport which he still has. The second passport was a replacement for the first, which reportedly was lost.

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