You would think Craig Thomson would be keen to do anything and everything to clear his name, but nooooo. Seems to me that the only reason he would refuse to talk to Police is because he obviously has something to hide and that he is scared that he may incriminate himself. This guy is an A-grade moron!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-union-scandal-hits-health-service-union/story-e6freuy9-1226326527361

Why shouldnt he listen to legal advice?
I would and Im assuming unless you are stupid you would as well.

At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else.
If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it.

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it.

If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:22am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election.

You would go against your lawyers advice?
I doubt you are being totally honest with us.

The former union leader also accused Labor MP Craig Thomson of trying to suggest he had impersonated him in a brothel, suggesting escort service charges were made by Mr Jackson and that he had paid $15,000 back to the union.

“That had nothing to do with credit cards or hookers or anything,’’ he said. “There was no doubt he was trying to deflect allegations to me. I absolutely deny the misuse of any credit cards.”




yes I would also be getting a lawyer to seek out  this mongrel for pointing his ugly finger at me if I was Mr Jackson..

Mr Jackson who is no one of honor either... was paying back money paid to him after he gave himself an unauthorised pay rise..

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:22am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election.

Thats not true ... most lawyers would play the waiting game  and wait and see what if any evidence the police may have... if you want to believe that makes him guilty, go for it, you've probably already decided his guilt ...

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. You would go against your lawyers advice? I doubt you are being totally honest with us.

No, I would work with my lawyer to clear my name as quickly as possible. Thomson, on the other hand, seems quite happy for this farce to last as long as possible.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:22am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election.

he is in a lot of trouble AP... and its normal for a lawyer to tell him to shut up.. it sounds very much like the lawyers are expecting him to be charged!!!!!

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. he is in a lot of trouble AP... and its normal for a lawyer to tell him to shut up.. it sounds very much like the lawyers are expecting him to be charged!!!!!

Probably hoping to negotiate some kind of deal...

His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would.

he still has the ATO to start on him yet... Craig Thomson is in the sh1t one way or the other.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:34am:

His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would.

In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:22am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election.

If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate

It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars.

how about naming someone???????.


you are quick to point the finger at the police... hint hint.. yet THOMO you protect at all costs..

I love that..

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:36am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:34am: His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would. In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long.

Only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice ..they are probably more concerned with getting their client off the hook than appeasing the hysterical Liberal Party.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars.

I think you've been watching too many B-grade action flicks lately!

Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum.

blackadder wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum.

Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice.
If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:46am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:36am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:34am: His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would. In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long. Only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice ..they are probably more concerned with getting their client off the hook than appeasing the hysterical Liberal Party.

strange havent seen any hysteria from the Lib Party at all..

is that just wishful thinking... or are you so protective of THOMO you will die if he is found guilty?.. I know I know..if hes guilty then throw the book at him... ho hum..

wonder whos paying his lawyers fees... the ALP..
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars. how about naming someone???????. you are quick to point the finger at the police... hint hint.. yet THOMO you protect at all costs.. I love that..

I can say from experience with several family members, co operating with police isn't always in your best interest ...

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:36am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:34am: His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would. In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long. Only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice ..they are probably more concerned with getting their client off the hook than appeasing the hysterical Liberal Party. strange havent seen any hysteria from the Lib Party at all.. is that just wishful thinking... or are you so protective of THOMO you will die if he is found guilty?.. I know I know..if hes guilty then throw the book at him... ho hum.. wonder whos paying his lawyers fees... the ALP.. hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

You haven't seen any? maybe you need to turn on the tv or read a paper every now and then... the libs have been on a witch hunt from day one with this one .... there are a thousand cases of fraud investigated every year, why do they not show the same 'concern' for any of the other cases?

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:44am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars. how about naming someone???????. you are quick to point the finger at the police... hint hint.. yet THOMO you protect at all costs.. I love that.. I can say from experience with several family members, co operating with police isn't always in your best interest ...

You seriously believe the Police are going to deliberately, knowingly lock up someone who is innocent? Grow a brain, will ya!?!?!?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:55am: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:44am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars. how about naming someone???????. you are quick to point the finger at the police... hint hint.. yet THOMO you protect at all costs.. I love that.. I can say from experience with several family members, co operating with police isn't always in your best interest ... You seriously believe the Police are going to deliberately, knowingly lock up someone who is innocent? Grow a brain, will ya!?!?!?

Why don't you try to get out in the real world every now and then .... not every one bought to trial is found guilty you know ... you can put some of that down to clever lawyers, but even you have to allow that some is due to bad policing .....

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:41am: If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars. how about naming someone???????. you are quick to point the finger at the police... hint hint. . yet THOMO you protect at all costs.. I love that..

I am neither protecting supporting or accusing Mr Thompson.

If he is guilty and the police lay charges they can prove go for it hope he gets what he deserves if he is guilty.

I just do not go for the guilty till proven innocent conservative routine.

Remember Hicks – 8 years locked up with no charge and in the end convicted of doing the same thing which John Howard was also guilty of.

Remember Dr Haneef Locked up in Australia on an untrue bogus excuse meant to test the legislation even though the evidence was known to be incorrect.

The Conservatives considered them all to be guilty till proven innocent. Funny though the Qld Premier was held to a different standard? In some cases you are right to consider that where there is smoke there may be fire.

I think Thomson is used to people covering for him and he is hoping that any evidence will somehow disappear thanks to his invisible buddies.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

I think Thomson is used to people covering for him and he is hoping that any evidence will somehow disappear thanks to his invisible buddies.

Maybe he hasn't yet caught on to the fact that Labor will no longer be in power after the next election and therefore will be unable to impede investigations into both himself and the HSU.

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:57am:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:50am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:36am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:34am: His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would. In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long. Only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice ..they are probably more concerned with getting their client off the hook than appeasing the hysterical Liberal Party. strange havent seen any hysteria from the Lib Party at all.. is that just wishful thinking... or are you so protective of THOMO you will die if he is found guilty?.. I know I know..if hes guilty then throw the book at him... ho hum.. wonder whos paying his lawyers fees... the ALP.. hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm You haven't seen any? maybe you need to turn on the tv or read a paper every now and then... the libs have been on a witch hunt from day one with this one .... there are a thousand cases of fraud investigated every year, why do they not show the same 'concern' for any of the other cases?

show us an instance will ya... btw ... how MP do you know of that are investigated for fraud?????????????????????????????...


as far as I know THOMO is an MP and is therefore being paid by myself... so I am entitled to have answers...

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:57am: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:50am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:36am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:34am: His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would. In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long. Only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice ..they are probably more concerned with getting their client off the hook than appeasing the hysterical Liberal Party. strange havent seen any hysteria from the Lib Party at all.. is that just wishful thinking... or are you so protective of THOMO you will die if he is found guilty?.. I know I know..if hes guilty then throw the book at him... ho hum.. wonder whos paying his lawyers fees... the ALP.. hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm You haven't seen any? maybe you need to turn on the tv or read a paper every now and then... the libs have been on a witch hunt from day one with this one .... there are a thousand cases of fraud investigated every year, why do they not show the same 'concern' for any of the other cases? show us an instance will ya... btw ... how MP do you know of that are investigated for fraud?????????????????????????????... as far as I know THOMO is an MP and is therefore being paid by myself... so I am entitled to have answers...

On this one he is answerable to the union and its members until he is convicted of any crime.
He isnt being accused of defrauding you or me.

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:44am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:41am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:22am: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:17am: At this point, he has to do what the lawyers tell him to do ... with the witch hunt thats going on, he'd be crazy to do anything else. If you want to take that as a sign of guilt, so be it. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate and bring this farce to a speedy conclusion. Obviously this has been dragging on for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight. Given the absence of anything being offered by either Thomson or his lawyer to refute these allegations, one can only assume that he is trying to drag this out for as long as possible. He is only trying to avoid the inevitable, though - fines and/or prison and a loss of his parliamentary pension and entitlements after he loses his seat at the next election. If he truly was innocent, both he and his lawyer would be doing everything they can to cooperate It is not uncommon for innocent people who co operate with the police to find themselves behind bars. how about naming someone???????. you are quick to point the finger at the police... hint hint.. yet THOMO you protect at all costs.. I love that.. I can say from experience with several family members, co operating with police isn't always in your best interest ...

several family members.. have had a rough time with the police.... sound strange to anyone???? LOL..

sorry matey but your family may be well known to the police... therefore have lost the police's trust...sh!t happens


several members eh!!!!!!!

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:57am: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:50am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:36am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:34am: His probably letting his lawyers deal with it..like a normal person would. In that case, he needs new lawyers as they are letting his name get dragged through the mud for too long. Only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice ..they are probably more concerned with getting their client off the hook than appeasing the hysterical Liberal Party. strange havent seen any hysteria from the Lib Party at all.. is that just wishful thinking... or are you so protective of THOMO you will die if he is found guilty?.. I know I know..if hes guilty then throw the book at him... ho hum.. wonder whos paying his lawyers fees... the ALP.. hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm You haven't seen any? maybe you need to turn on the tv or read a paper every now and then... the libs have been on a witch hunt from day one with this one .... there are a thousand cases of fraud investigated every year, why do they not show the same 'concern' for any of the other cases? show us an instance will ya... btw ... how MP do you know of that are investigated for fraud?????????????????????????????... as far as I know THOMO is an MP and is therefore being paid by myself... so I am entitled to have answers...

The ALLEGED fraud took place long before he was an MP .... leave the politics out of it and let justice take it's course ... why the incessant need to interfere in a process that works pretty well most of the time if not for anything other than political advantage ....

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

I think Thomson is used to people covering for him and he is hoping that any evidence will somehow disappear thanks to his invisible buddies.

3 police investigations with no charges and this requested interview looks like a fishing expedition.

I wonder how any politician would do under this type of scrutiny.

Wonder if Mr Abbnotts funding of the crusade against Pauline Hanson would go if investigated, where did that money come from - was it corrupt use of Liberal party funds? Who paid and was it legit or corrupt as well as dishonest and disgraceful.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

blackadder wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum. Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice. If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail.

of course you can say that adel... but shite   3.,5.years and still they are throwing bogies into the works..to slow it all down..

please dont pretend if this was a Lib you would be saying the same thing

Neo cons dont believe that a person is innocent unless proven guilty and that everyone has the right to be represented by an experienced lawyer?
They wouldn't give a toss about Thomson or the union members if the govt had a large majority...its all about Abbotts birthright.

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:48am: blackadder wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum. Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice. If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail. of course you can say that adel... but shite   3.,5.years and still they are throwing bogies into the works..to slow it all down.. please dont pretend if this was a Lib you would be saying the same thing

If he wasn't a politician and the police had found no charges to answer 3 times that would have been well past the end of the matter.

The liberals pushing for never ending investigations is the reason it has taken 3.5 years. At least 3 investigations have been completed in that time.

This is about political gain - not justice.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 10:21am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:48am: blackadder wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum. Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice. If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail. of course you can say that adel... but shite   3.,5.years and still they are throwing bogies into the works..to slow it all down.. please dont pretend if this was a Lib you would be saying the same thing If he wasn't a politician and the police had found no charges to answer 3 times that would have been well past the end of the matter. The liberals pushing for never ending investigations is the reason it has taken 3.5 years. At least 3 investigations have been completed in that time. This is about political gain - not justice.

As I said.........lefty scum defending lefty scum.

Of course he is innocent DNA. Julia didn't lie, Milton didn't sexually abuse young boys and give them drugs and all the ALP pedos in gaol are innocent.

You really are a brainwashed DOPE.

blackadder wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 10:28am: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 10:21am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:48am: blackadder wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum. Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice. If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail. of course you can say that adel... but shite   3.,5.years and still they are throwing bogies into the works..to slow it all down.. please dont pretend if this was a Lib you would be saying the same thing If he wasn't a politician and the police had found no charges to answer 3 times that would have been well past the end of the matter. The liberals pushing for never ending investigations is the reason it has taken 3.5 years. At least 3 investigations have been completed in that time. This is about political gain - not justice. As I said.........lefty scum defending lefty scum. Of course he is innocent DNA. Julia didn't lie, Milton didn't sexually abuse young boys and give them drugs and all the ALP pedos in gaol are innocent. You really are a brainwashed DOPE.

Of course he is innocent DNA

I have never said that and do not know the answer but do you really think it is typical for multiple police investigations all finding the same result to just continue indefinatly.

I suspect that you are reasonably intelligent BA and have no idea why you try so hard to hide it.

I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad.

Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs.

He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable.

in his position, I would not want to chat with the police either

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable.

Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet.

nobody is eeking to overturn presumption of innocence. But that is a COURT presumption, not a presumption of the people (worst luck). But even with this 'presumption of innocence' people are taken to court with zero doubt on anyones behalf of their guilt.

he deserves due process but so do we. And so far we are seeing due process being stalled, held up  and diverted. Thomson has a right to his day in court. We have a right to expect it.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet.

what a pity

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 10:21am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:48am: blackadder wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum. Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice. If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail. of course you can say that adel... but shite   3.,5.years and still they are throwing bogies into the works..to slow it all down.. please dont pretend if this was a Lib you would be saying the same thing If he wasn't a politician and the police had found no charges to answer 3 times that would have been well past the end of the matter. The liberals pushing for never ending investigations is the reason it has taken 3.5 years. At least 3 investigations have been completed in that time. This is about political gain - not justice.

DDNA the police havent been investigating this for 3.5.years only FAIRWORK... the police were only involved last year.. then it was dropped then picked up again..


as fairwork has found 80 odd things that are veryu serious and nerd answers... lets not forget the 1100 pages...... if there is nothing wrong..

I ask you??.. why 3.5 years and why 1100 pages

later.. another mix up so it now goes back and forth..Fairwork not co operating with the police and now THOMO isnt cooperating..

it sort of comes across as one giant cover up..to stretch this out as long as possible..


I dare anyone to say they wouldnt think differently if the boot was on the other foot..


we cant call him guilty... so stop twisting things..

nothing about this whole saga has been open and above board.thats all I am saying.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet.

HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right???

cods wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 5:08pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right???

Did I say Fisher should be jailed?
Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that.

Can everyone please just leave Craig alone? It is clear that he is innocent. Someone must have obviously stolen his credit card, forged his signature, and possibly even stolen his face. Craig, being the great, dignified and respectable gentleman that he is, decided to let it go, and not follow up the case, and try to discover the identify of the culprit.

matty wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

Can everyone please just leave Craig alone? It is clear that he is innocent. Someone must have obviously stolen his credit card, forged his signature, and possibly even stolen his face. Craig, being the great, dignified and respectable gentleman that he is, decided to let it go, and not follow up the case, and try to discover the identify of the culprit.

Its not clear whether he is guilty or innocent and frankly I doubt Abbott would give a toss if he thought he could win the election if Gillard goes full term.
Let the system take its course and if he is found guilty throw the book at him.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 5:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:22pm: Can everyone please just leave Craig alone? It is clear that he is innocent. Someone must have obviously stolen his credit card, forged his signature, and possibly even stolen his face. Craig, being the great, dignified and respectable gentleman that he is, decided to let it go, and not follow up the case, and try to discover the identify of the culprit. Its not clear whether he is guilty or innocent and frankly I doubt Abbott would give a toss if he thought he could win the election if Gillard goes full term. Let the system take its course and if he is found guilty throw the book at him.

Exactly. But the problem for whiny little snivelers like matty/haim et al is that she has spent the last two and a half years listening to longwhine preach that the Labor gov will fall any day and has been stupid enough to believe him.longwhine should stop being so cruel to the handicapped, its just not fair on matty. ;D

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 5:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:22pm: Can everyone please just leave Craig alone? It is clear that he is innocent. Someone must have obviously stolen his credit card, forged his signature, and possibly even stolen his face. Craig, being the great, dignified and respectable gentleman that he is, decided to let it go, and not follow up the case, and try to discover the identify of the culprit. Its not clear whether he is guilty or innocent and frankly I doubt Abbott would give a toss if he thought he could win the election if Gillard goes full term. Let the system take its course and if he is found guilty throw the book at him.

What? I am defending him. I mean, it's perfectly clear that he is innocent. Craig was just too nice a person to worry about someone using his credit card, forging his signature and possibly even stealing his face.

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that.

depression and panic attacks dont disqualify you from almost any profession. Why dhouls parliament be any different? how can you complain about Fishers mental health without equally questionoing the ETHICAL health of others? only the latter truly affects their judgement.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 6:13pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:11pm: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that. depression and panic attacks dont disqualify you from almost any profession. Why dhouls parliament be any different? how can you complain about Fishers mental health without equally questionoing the ETHICAL health of others? only the latter truly affects their judgement.

Rubbish ... I'd like to see you get in a plane knowing the pilot is prone to either  ... or under a surgeons knife knowing anything could trigger he's next panick attack ... opps sorry, I didn't mean to remove your frontal lobe , I knda panicked....

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:13pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:11pm: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that. depression and panic attacks dont disqualify you from almost any profession. Why dhouls parliament be any different? how can you complain about Fishers mental health without equally questionoing the ETHICAL health of others? only the latter truly affects their judgement. Rubbish ... I'd like to see you get in a plane knowing the pilot is prone to either  ... or under a surgeons knife knowing anything could trigger he's next panick attack ... opps sorry, I didn't mean to remove your frontal lobe , I knda panicked....

hence the word 'ALMOST'. see thats what intelligent people do... They dont make broad sweeping statements. They recognise that there are a FEW professions that depression could affect although there are a lot of depressed surgeons and pilots and plenty of examples of both.

you are quite 19th century in your understanding of depression. Who would have thought you could be so antiquated?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 6:38pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:13pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:11pm: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that. depression and panic attacks dont disqualify you from almost any profession. Why dhouls parliament be any different? how can you complain about Fishers mental health without equally questionoing the ETHICAL health of others? only the latter truly affects their judgement. Rubbish ... I'd like to see you get in a plane knowing the pilot is prone to either  ... or under a surgeons knife knowing anything could trigger he's next panick attack ... opps sorry, I didn't mean to remove your frontal lobe , I knda panicked.... hence the word 'ALMOST'. see thats what intelligent people do... They dont make broad sweeping statements. They recognise that there are a FEW professions that depression could affect although there are a lot of depressed surgeons and pilots and plenty of examples of both. you are quite 19th century in your understanding of depression. Who would have thought you could be so antiquated?

I don't believe I gave my understanding of it? 19th century or otherwise .... you shouldn't make broad sweeping statements ....

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:38pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:13pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:11pm: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that. depression and panic attacks dont disqualify you from almost any profession. Why dhouls parliament be any different? how can you complain about Fishers mental health without equally questionoing the ETHICAL health of others? only the latter truly affects their judgement. Rubbish ... I'd like to see you get in a plane knowing the pilot is prone to either  ... or under a surgeons knife knowing anything could trigger he's next panick attack ... opps sorry, I didn't mean to remove your frontal lobe , I knda panicked.... hence the word 'ALMOST'. see thats what intelligent people do... They dont make broad sweeping statements. They recognise that there are a FEW professions that depression could affect although there are a lot of depressed surgeons and pilots and plenty of examples of both. you are quite 19th century in your understanding of depression. Who would have thought you could be so antiquated? I don't believe I gave my understanding of it? 19th century or otherwise .... you shouldn't make broad sweeping statements ....

you said that a pilot or surgeon with depression shouldnt be allowed to operate. thats 19th century thinking.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

You would think Craig Thomson would be keen to do anything and everything to clear his name, but nooooo. Seems to me that the only reason he would refuse to talk to Police is because he obviously has something to hide and that he is scared that he may incriminate himself. This guy is an A-grade moron! http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-union-scandal-hits-health-service-union/story-e6freuy9-1226326527361

Mr Thomson is very unhappy that his church attendance program has been interrupted by the media and police.

In other news the police are still trying to identify the person who broke into Thomson's house, stole his wallet, credit card, mobile phone and wedding ring and drove to Sydney to use those items. After that the person drove to the Gosford area and returned all those items. Anyone with information should ring CrimeStoppers. Please treat this matter as 'urgent'.

salad in wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:44pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:14am: You would think Craig Thomson would be keen to do anything and everything to clear his name, but nooooo. Seems to me that the only reason he would refuse to talk to Police is because he obviously has something to hide and that he is scared that he may incriminate himself. This guy is an A-grade moron! http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-union-scandal-hits-health-service-union/story-e6freuy9-1226326527361 Mr Thomson is very unhappy that his church attendance program has been interrupted by the media and police. In other news the police are still trying to identify the person who broke into Thomson's house, stole his wallet, credit card, mobile phone and wedding ring and drove to Sydney to use those items. After that the person drove to the Gosford area and returned all those items. Anyone with information should ring CrimeStoppers. Please treat this matter as 'urgent'.

No, no, no, as I was saying, Craig is too nice to care about who did it. He aims to please everyone. Just let it slide like he has. I think that Craig has a compassion and forgiving nature, so rare in the human species. What other person would allow someone to use their credit card, forge their signature, and borrow their face? He's a role model for us all. I would be most disappointed if he is not made Australian of the Year next year. His story needs to be spread to an international level. To think that all of those movies and documentaries have been made about those deadbeats like Gandhi, Mother Teresa and Mary MacKillop, when there is a story like this that hasn't been told...

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:22pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:42pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:38pm: Johnsmith wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:13pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:11pm: cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that. depression and panic attacks dont disqualify you from almost any profession. Why dhouls parliament be any different? how can you complain about Fishers mental health without equally questionoing the ETHICAL health of others? only the latter truly affects their judgement. Rubbish ... I'd like to see you get in a plane knowing the pilot is prone to either  ... or under a surgeons knife knowing anything could trigger he's next panick attack ... opps sorry, I didn't mean to remove your frontal lobe , I knda panicked.... hence the word 'ALMOST'. see thats what intelligent people do... They dont make broad sweeping statements. They recognise that there are a FEW professions that depression could affect although there are a lot of depressed surgeons and pilots and plenty of examples of both. you are quite 19th century in your understanding of depression. Who would have thought you could be so antiquated? I don't believe I gave my understanding of it? 19th century or otherwise .... you shouldn't make broad sweeping statements .... you said that a pilot or surgeon with depression shouldnt be allowed to operate. thats 19th century thinking.

No, I said I'd like to see you get on a plane or under the knife of someone with depression ... I know it may be difficult for you, but think about it .... i doubt you would sing the same tune if you were in either of those positions ...

Dnarever wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 10:21am: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:48am: blackadder wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:46am: Typically the lefty scum here have come out defending lefty scum. Who's defending him..Im saying only an idiot ignores their lawyers advice. If he is ultimately found guilty he should be chucked out of parliament and into jail. of course you can say that adel... but shite   3.,5.years and still they are throwing bogies into the works..to slow it all down.. please dont pretend if this was a Lib you would be saying the same thing If he wasn't a politician and the police had found no charges to answer 3 times that would have been well past the end of the matter. The liberals pushing for never ending investigations is the reason it has taken 3.5 years. At least 3 investigations have been completed in that time. This is about political gain - not justice.

I think you will find it was Ms Jackson who was doing the pushing...with a little help from the Libs..after all she wasnt getting any answers from FAIRWORK>.was she??? wouldnt you be frustrated if after 3.5. years not a thing changed.


the police btw havent FINISHED their investigation so how could they have found nothing wrong 3 times????


where do you get your information from.?? oh probably GETUP..

anyway the police were brought in a long time after FAIRWORK stalled and stalled...

MONEY IS MISSING mONEY WAS INAPPROPRIATELY USED BY OFFICIALS>


dont you really think that is worth investigating.??????..

I know if I was a low paid health worker I would want it investigated..


sh!t $2000 lunches.. yeah right.

high class brothels..

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm: adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:35pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 4:04pm: I understand why Thomson is refusing to be interviewed and it is perhaps good legal advice. But ultimately it does tend to suggest that he is attempting to avoid self-incrimination - which is his right. His lawyers are trying to keep him out of jail, which is their job. But you have to admit, it looks bad. Ultimately though he WILL have to talk with the police even if they have to arrest him to do so. AS the mass of evidence piles up against him it wil end up being better to go willingly rather than in handcuffs. He is still going to jail tho. He is just trying to stave off the inevitable. Everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise..we havent degenerated into a hard line ultra conservative Milosevic style dictatorship just yet. HILARIOUS...but all the nasty things you said about Fisher were A OK>  is that right??? Did I say Fisher should be jailed? Nope.. I said she is not mentally fit to be in parliament and I doubt anyone can dispute that.

there was a lot of mocking and putting down of Fisher.. yet here we are all pretending to suddenly feel sorry for a lefty...

I think you will find quite a few pollies are taking meds...... are you willing to condemn them all are just those from the right..

and dont tell me Slipper is the full pack

Im more amazed how long the ALP have let this issue hang over their heads, almost in a hope that it will blow over.

I honestly expected them to have somone come out from the HSU and take the fall for this already.

This is a bad smell the ALP dont need over them at the moment, there lack of interest in clearing this has been amazing.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 8:14am:

You would think Craig Thomson would be keen to do anything and everything to clear his name

Mr Thomson stressed that the investigation by NSW police did not involve the arm of the union he was directly involved in or the allegations involving himself.

"We asked them for areas they wanted to ask me about and they declined to do so. On that basis we declined to talk to them," Mr Thomson said last night.

"I haven't been involved in the HSU East branch since 2002. I declined on legal advice.

"What I would say is that it is my very strong view that Fair Work Australia should immediately give their report to the Victoria Police."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-union-scandal-hits-health-service-union/story-e6freuy9-1226326527361




( ... I don't see a PROBLEM, there
Bear in mind - both the NSW and Victoria Police have already COMPLETED their investigations into the so called "Thomson Affair")

Verge wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 2:13pm:

Im more amazed how long the ALP have let this issue hang over their heads, almost in a hope that it will blow over. I honestly expected them to have somone come out from the HSU and take the fall for this already. This is a bad smell the ALP dont need over them at the moment, there lack of interest in clearing this has been amazing.

If the ALP had gotten involved there would be cries of a cover up ... if they don't they are seen to show no interest .... political parties should stay out of any investigation ... be it of an MP or otherwise .... there is a seperation of powers in our system for a reason ....

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 2:20pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 8:14am: You would think Craig Thomson would be keen to do anything and everything to clear his name Mr Thomson stressed that the investigation by NSW police did not involve the arm of the union he was directly involved in or the allegations involving himself. "We asked them for areas they wanted to ask me about and they declined to do so. On that basis we declined to talk to them," Mr Thomson said last night. "I haven't been involved in the HSU East branch since 2002. I declined on legal advice. "What I would say is that it is my very strong view that Fair Work Australia should immediately give their report to the Victoria Police." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-union-scandal-hits-health-service-union/story-e6freuy9-1226326527361 ( ... I don't see a PROBLEM, there Bear in mind - both the NSW and Victoria Police have already COMPLETED their investigations into the so called "Thomson Affair")

if that was the case.. why were the police asking FAIRWORK for information?????????...

when did the police wrap up the case????.

and how come we havent been told what the findings are?

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:13pm: Im more amazed how long the ALP have let this issue hang over their heads, almost in a hope that it will blow over. I honestly expected them to have somone come out from the HSU and take the fall for this already. This is a bad smell the ALP dont need over them at the moment, there lack of interest in clearing this has been amazing. If the ALP had gotten involved there would be cries of a cover up ... if they don't they are seen to show no interest .... political parties should stay out of any investigation ... be it of an MP or otherwise .... there is a seperation of powers in our system for a reason ....

since FAIRWORK is a govt creation... since when are they a separation of anything???.. they are not the LAW...


and all the Libs are asking for is WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG>>> AND WHAT INTERFERENCE HAS THIS GOVT HAD IN THIS CASE??

all valid questions that the govt refuses to answer

like I have said a few times... let this be a liberal govt and you would be squawking like stuck pigs..


the govt did get involved thats one of the problems..

The Unions and labor are doing a sterling job of protecting their Thomson ticket which will allow them to continue destroying Australia with Miss Gillard's FABIAN destructive delusions and Senatrix Milne's luney green dreems of Australia as an impoverished primitive agrarian Communist country.

MP Craig Thomson won't talk to cops over HSU scandal
by: Samantha Maiden From: The Sunday Telegraph April 15, 2012 12:00AM

Craig Thomson has declined to talk to the police over the HSU scandal. LABOR MP Craig Thomson has confirmed he has refused to be interviewed by the NSW Police Strike Force Carnarvon over allegations of corruption at the HSU East branch.

The besieged former union official - accused of misusing union credit cards to visit prostitutes and to withdraw $100,000 over a five year period - told The Sunday Telegraph last night that he had made the decision on legal advice.

Mr Thomson, who has repeatedly denied using union funds to visit prostitutes, stressed that the investigation by NSW police did not involve the arm of the union he was directly involved in or the allegations involving himself.

"We asked them for areas they wanted to ask me about and they declined to do so. On that basis we declined to talk to them," Mr Thomson said last night.

"I haven't been involved in the HSU East branch since 2002. I declined on legal advice.

"What I would say is that it is my very strong view that Fair Work Australia should immediately give their report to the Victoria Police."

He said he may agree to be interviewed by Strike Force Carnarvon if his lawyers reached agreement with NSW Police.

Mr Thomson's refusal to co-operate with NSW Police follows criticisms of Fair Work Australia for failing to make documents available to police on legal grounds. He stressed he was co-operating with Victoria Police.

Strike Force Carnavon in NSW is investigating claims of corruption in the Victorian and NSW branches of HSU East, including claims of secret commissions, abuse of credit cards and the awarding of lucrative contracts to family companies.


New HSU scandal

Meanwhile, Union whistleblower Kathy Jackson also revealed yesterday her ex-husband Jeff Jackson is still driving a Health Services Union car nearly three years after he left the troubled union. She told The Sunday Telegraph the arrangement was above board and she had no involvement with it.

Enemies of union whistleblower have raised the allegations to damage Ms Jackson, but she told the Sunday Herald Sun the severance arrangements of her estranged husband were all above board, but a matter for him. She had no involvement with the arrangement.

"Part of the deal with (HSU east secretary) Michael Williamson was that he held on to this car," Ms Jackson said yesterday.

"They know he's got that car. They organized it until his long service leave is paid out. They kept on paying a fuel card. That's my understanding."

Mr Jackson told the Sunday Telegraph that after he left the union in 2009 and federal court order stipulated he be paid until his contract ended in 2010. After that he reached an agreement with HSU East to pay out his remaining lump sum leave entitlements over an 18 month period effectively remaining on the payroll for nearly three years after he left the office.

"The lease of the vehicle was part of the salary package," Mr Jackson told the Sunday Herald Sun.

"That expires this month. The car will be returned to the union."

The former union leader also accused Labor MP Craig Thomson of trying to suggest he had impersonated him in a brothel, suggesting escort service charges were made by Mr Jackson and that he had paid $15,000 back to the union.

"That had nothing to do with credit cards or hookers or anything," he said. "There was no doubt he was trying to deflect allegations to me. I absolutely deny the misuse of any credit cards."

Fresh details have also emerged about the Jackson faction links of Victorian Senator David Feeney, one of a group of MPs along with Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten, part of a group known as the faceless men who installed Julia Gillard.

Senator Feeney once bought a house in Victoria from the Jacksons, a property deal that was witnessed on sale documents by Mr Shorten’s then wife Debbie Beale.

The Victorian MP also confessed his "mistake" as a young ALP apparatchik posting out a dirt sheet for the now infamous Health Services Union.

In 1997, a young Feeney was involved in the distribution of a union "**** sheet" for Mr Jackson that targeted another union leader Charlie Nader.

"Bottom line: David Feeney dropped off at the Australia Post distribution centre one of the mail outs. And signed off for it," Senator Feeney told the Sunday Herald Sun.

Asked whether this was stupid he replied: "It's the kind of mistake 26 year olds make."

As senior Labor figures increasingly distance themselves the woman who has pursued allegations Labor MP Craig Thomson used union credit cards to visit prostitutes, Senator Feeney has described Ms Jackson as "a person of integrity."

"Kathy's strategy in this fight has always been in run into the light. Because her enemies are only strong in the shadows," Senator Feeney said.

Have your say

Eileen of NSW Posted at 2:19 PM April 15, 2012
When are the public going to see what their tax dollars have paid for - The Fair Work Aust Report? and why wouldn't you cooperate with the police unless you had something to hide?

How Much Longer Posted at 12:47 PM April 15, 2012
If he has nothing to hide he would want to clear his name. How much longer can Gillard continue to support this man who does not want to defend himself when he has the opportunity? It is insulting to all decent law biding Australians that this man sits in Parliament. He can prove to the Australian people by talking to the police that his is innocent of all charges as he claims.

Tom C Posted at 12:37 PM April 15, 2012
If it were you or I we would have been arrested by now but because of the Thomson link with Gillard and the Labor party we seem to have a law for us and a law for them.

Labor links at FWA have ensured that this inquiry has been dragged out for as long as possible which initially suited Gillard and Labor as it ensured that we would not have a bi-election in Thomson's seat of Dobell.

But now the stench of this affair is sticking to the entire union movement and the Labor Party and the stench will not go away until such times as Thomson has been charged and found either guilty or not guilty.

Because of her history no one actually believes that Gillard does not know the full details of this case and as such she once again destroys what little trust or faith that we have in the political system by continuing to support Thomson and Fair Work Australia at the expense of the HSU members. Disgraceful.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-union-scandal-hits-health-service-union/story-e6freuy9-1226326527361?reg=1

Hey Skip here boy.

Mark Craig Thomson well and shun him, excommunicate him, drive him from your lands and flocks. 8-)

If the police have any evidence it is not optinal to talk to them.

It looks like they have nothing more than the other investigations found -  a fishing expedition maybe.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:59pm:

If the police have any evidence it is not optinal to talk to them. It looks like they have nothing more than the other investigations found -  a fishing expedition maybe.

Yeah, right. His phone, credit card and face were used. If you believe him, they were used (stolen) by someone else and then miraculously returned! Maybe it was the Israeli spies getting up to no good again? Although I think they tend to stick with passport fraud, not credit card fraud.  :D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 8:11pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 7:59pm: If the police have any evidence it is not optinal to talk to them. It looks like they have nothing more than the other investigations found -  a fishing expedition maybe. Yeah, right. His phone, credit card and face were used. If you believe him, they were used (stolen) by someone else and then miraculously returned! Maybe it was the Israeli spies getting up to no good again? Although I think they tend to stick with passport fraud, not credit card fraud.  :D

or maybe one of those Aliens booby talks too!!..

its going to be interesting when the police do get a chance to ask him...


well if it wasnt you.... who the hell was it?

and why didnt you report it at the time..

I mean it happened [brothel creeping]in Vic and in NSW..

so it was two people????????????.. or did he have a stalker...again something he never reported.