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Message started by Spot of Borg on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:39pm

Title: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:39pm
Its over and I never even heard about it. Interesting it was never mentioned ont he news hey?

Heres thier webpage

Did anyone here go to it? I doubt we will hear of anything interesting that took place there or was said.

SOB

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:41pm
Of course the media wouldnt mention it.
Cant wait to hear what whitey will say..

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by The tolerator on Apr 17th, 2012 at 3:12pm
Why would the media report on it?  It's not a conspiracy, it's just that it's irrelevant.

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 17th, 2012 at 3:13pm
I saw it on a TV news report ... can't remember which one.

It was reported, but not too much though.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/editorial/value-in-the-questions-for-believers-and-atheists-alike-20120414-1x0ef.html

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/join-the-real-world-and-show-faith-in-reasoned-debate-20120413-1wyn0.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-13/atheism-conference-sparks-debate/3948216


Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 17th, 2012 at 3:14pm

... wrote on Apr 17th, 2012 at 3:12pm:
Why would the media report on it?  It's not a conspiracy, it's just that it's irrelevant.


Because it was a big thing apparently. A big convention in Melbourne. Other big conventions get a mention. Stamps, comics . . . . .

Oh and dont call me a conspiracy theorist. Those ppl have to believe everything out there. Worse than religious ppl.

SOB

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 17th, 2012 at 4:11pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 17th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
I saw it on a TV news report ... can't remember which one.

It was reported, but not too much though.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/editorial/value-in-the-questions-for-believers-and-atheists-alike-20120414-1x0ef.html

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/join-the-real-world-and-show-faith-in-reasoned-debate-20120413-1wyn0.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-13/atheism-conference-sparks-debate/3948216


Thanks for those. Heh they dont really talk about the conference though do they? lol.. . . .interesting reads though

Spot

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by great one on Apr 17th, 2012 at 4:22pm
Hang on a sec ... Isn't there something wrong here? As an opponent of organised religion, I believe that organised religion of any kind is wrong / bullshyte .. any organisation that preaches about peoples beliefs is in my opinion a religion... isn't this group now just another religion  .... ??? Seems to go against what i think a real atheism is .... admittedly it could just be me ...


Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 17th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 17th, 2012 at 4:22pm:
Hang on a sec ... Isn't there something wrong here? As an opponent of organised religion, I believe that organised religion of any kind is wrong / bullshyte .. any organisation that preaches about peoples beliefs is in my opinion a religion... isn't this group now just another religion  .... ??? Seems to go against what i think a real atheism is .... admittedly it could just be me ...


I dont know anything abotu it really. Only found out about it today - way after the fact. My first thought was that there are a couple "radicals" in there making a group so theres an opponent for the "Family first" things but really I dunno. Maybe its just a bunch of like minded ppl getting together. Like a stamp show or a comic convention . . . .

SOB

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Soren on May 7th, 2012 at 3:33pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:39pm:
Its over and I never even heard about it. Interesting it was never mentioned ont he news hey?

Heres thier webpage

Did anyone here go to it? I doubt we will hear of anything interesting that took place there or was said.

SOB




There was a post about it here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335186753/30#30

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on May 7th, 2012 at 4:24pm

Soren wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:39pm:
Its over and I never even heard about it. Interesting it was never mentioned ont he news hey?

Heres thier webpage

Did anyone here go to it? I doubt we will hear of anything interesting that took place there or was said.

SOB




There was a post about it here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335186753/30#30


I most prolly wasnt a member then.

SOB

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by falah on May 30th, 2012 at 5:16pm
Apparently the star of the show was an admitted liar:

Outspoken Dutch MP admits lying to gain asylum



AYAAN Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born Dutch politician known for her outspoken criticism of Islam, is leaving parliament and moving to the US after admitting she lied to gain asylum in the Netherlands.

Ms Hirsi Ali, 36, sought asylum in the Netherlands in 1992, claiming to be escaping from an arranged marriage. She was granted Dutch citizenship in 1997 and elected to parliament in 2003...


http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/outspoken-dutch-mp-admits-lying-to-gain-asylum/2006/05/16/1147545326279.html



Ayaan Hirsi Ali's lies

http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/storage/spencer%20and%20hirsi%20ali.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1147720381562
Ayaan Hirsi Ali With Jewish-backed anti-Islam Activist Robert Spencer

It turns out that Hirsi Ali (or Hirsi Magan to give her right name), the one-time collaborator of Theo Van Gogh and MP for the right-wing anti-migrant party the VVD, told a lot of porkies to claim asylum back in 1992.

As one critic put it: "To secure for herself a promising career she besmirched her family and the Islamic background that gave her a good education. She deliberately painted a black picture of Islam that she never experienced as such, only to profit from it. The Dutch party she is an MP for, the VVD, knew she had lied. They used her in their anti-Islamist and anti-left campaign. And Ayaan Hirsi 'Ali' presented the world with a fancy story it very much liked to hear."

Hirsi Ali has now been offered a job in the US with the neocon American Enterprise Institute, starting in September. Muslims in the Netherlands will be glad to see the back of her. Nasr Joemman, secretary of the Contact Organisation for Muslims and Government, said that Hirsi Ali's attacks on Islam had caused "a lot of damage". He added: "I celebrate that she is leaving the Netherlands. I hope that by her departure we can move forward with building a harmonious society."

http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2006/5/15/ayaan-hirsi-alis-lies.html

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by The tolerator on May 30th, 2012 at 5:18pm
Lying to be granted asylum.  Well I never!

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on May 30th, 2012 at 5:19pm
I think you put this in the wrong thread mate. This thread is about an atheist convention in melbourne

SOB

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by The tolerator on May 30th, 2012 at 5:20pm
Of course, that could never happen here...

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by falah on May 30th, 2012 at 7:01pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:19pm:
I think you put this in the wrong thread mate. This thread is about an atheist convention in melbourne

SOB


When the star attraction for the  event is an admitted liar, I think it is relevant.

She is billed here on the atheist convention website:

http://www.atheistconvention.org.au/ayaan-hirsi-ali/

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by Spot of Borg on May 30th, 2012 at 7:12pm

falah wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:19pm:
I think you put this in the wrong thread mate. This thread is about an atheist convention in melbourne

SOB


When the star attraction for the  event is an admitted liar, I think it is relevant.

She is billed here on the atheist convention website:

http://www.atheistconvention.org.au/ayaan-hirsi-ali/


Oh. Doesnt matter though. If she did lie she is just one atheist. It doesnt reflect on other atheists because its not a religion and she doesnt speak for anyone but herself.

SOB

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 30th, 2012 at 7:41pm

falah wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 5:19pm:
I think you put this in the wrong thread mate. This thread is about an atheist convention in melbourne

SOB


When the star attraction for the  event is an admitted liar, I think it is relevant.

She is billed here on the atheist convention website:

http://www.atheistconvention.org.au/ayaan-hirsi-ali/

What does she state fiction as non fiction or something?

Title: Re: Atheist Convention Melbourne
Post by freediver on Dec 10th, 2023 at 4:55pm
This Topic was moved here from Atheism by freediver.

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