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Message started by salad in on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:02am

Title: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by salad in on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:02am

Quote:
Greens senator backed Binse over prisoner education
Vince Chadwick
May 22, 2012 - 3:17PM

A federal Greens senator who once congratulated the gunman at the centre of a stand-off in Melbourne's west on his efforts to prevent crime says the siege is outrageous but recidivism still needs to be addressed.

Senator Lee Rhiannon told The Age she has not been in contact with Christopher Dean Binse, who goes by the nickname 'Badness', since the two held a joint press conference in February 2005 to highlight conditions in the maximum security wing of Goulburn prison in New South Wales.

[...]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/greens-senator-backed-binse-over-prisoner-education-20120522-1z2ev.html


Do any of the GREENS have a photo on their wall of Ivan Milat? I think the GREENS would view Ivan as a poster boy for backpackers.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by longweekend58 on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:15am

salad in wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:02am:

Quote:
Greens senator backed Binse over prisoner education
Vince Chadwick
May 22, 2012 - 3:17PM

A federal Greens senator who once congratulated the gunman at the centre of a stand-off in Melbourne's west on his efforts to prevent crime says the siege is outrageous but recidivism still needs to be addressed.

Senator Lee Rhiannon told The Age she has not been in contact with Christopher Dean Binse, who goes by the nickname 'Badness', since the two held a joint press conference in February 2005 to highlight conditions in the maximum security wing of Goulburn prison in New South Wales.

[...]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/greens-senator-backed-binse-over-prisoner-education-20120522-1z2ev.html


Do any of the GREENS have a photo on their wall of Ivan Milat? I think the GREENS would view Ivan as a poster boy for backpackers.


The Greens are SUCH good judges of character. and Rhiannon is a true pig of a 'woman'.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Greens_Win on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by longweekend58 on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens


do FACTS ever filter past you defences? Gunman? seige?

it woudl appear not.

idiot.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:28am

salad in wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:02am:

Quote:
Greens senator backed Binse over prisoner education
Vince Chadwick
May 22, 2012 - 3:17PM

A federal Greens senator who once congratulated the gunman at the centre of a stand-off in Melbourne's west on his efforts to prevent crime says the siege is outrageous but recidivism still needs to be addressed.

Senator Lee Rhiannon told The Age she has not been in contact with Christopher Dean Binse, who goes by the nickname 'Badness', since the two held a joint press conference in February 2005 to highlight conditions in the maximum security wing of Goulburn prison in New South Wales.

[...]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/greens-senator-backed-binse-over-prisoner-education-20120522-1z2ev.html


Do any of the GREENS have a photo on their wall of Ivan Milat? I think the GREENS would view Ivan as a poster boy for backpackers.


Thats a bit nasty. We get the point. you dont like greens. Asshole.

SOB

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Greens_Win on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:32am

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am:

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens


do FACTS ever filter past you defences? Gumna? seige?

it woudl appear not.

idiot.




I read the article yesterday and anyone that also reads it, that are not rusted on the far righters, would recognise a beat up when they see one here.


I support reducing the number people heading into crime.

Why don't hard righters ... do you guys own prison contracts?


Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by angeleyes on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:40am
Just proves the gullibility of the loony Greens.

Lee-Rhiannon_and_madman.jpg (44 KB | 49 )

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by pansi1951 on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:41am

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am:

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens


do FACTS ever filter past you defences? Gunman? seige?

it woudl appear not.

idiot.


longbadweekend is calling a poster an idiot again.

Are you feeling insecure? ashamed? sinful? inferior? intellectually challenged? senseless? dullard? ignorant? dim-witted?

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by pansi1951 on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by BigOl64 on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:05am


I find it odd that the greens have a deep hatred of law abiding gun owners and continually imply that disarming this group will solve gun crime in society; but when faced with a bonafide scumbag violent criminal, they will find any excuse to down play his criminal activity and make out he is just a good person misunderstood.

Scumbag violent criminal = good

Average gun owner = bad

And only one of them actually tries to kill human beings for sh1ts and giggles.


A vote for greens is a vote for lunacy



Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by angeleyes on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:09am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am:
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.



Probably because we aren't gullible.

Community improvement certainly worked for Christopher Dean Binse.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by FriYAY on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:14am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:41am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am:

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens


do FACTS ever filter past you defences? Gunman? seige?

it woudl appear not.

idiot.


longbadweekend is calling a poster an idiot again.

Are you feeling insecure? ashamed? sinful? inferior? intellectually challenged? senseless? dullard? ignorant? dim-witted?


LOL

Hey hack you missed...

Thats a bit nasty. We get the point. you dont like greens. Asshole.

SOB

How bad must SOB be feeling... ::)

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Greens_Win on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:16am

angeleyes wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:09am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am:
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.



Probably because we aren't gullible.

Community improvement certainly worked for Christopher Dean Binse.



So who is adam and eve?

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by angeleyes on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:20am

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

angeleyes wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:09am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am:
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.



Probably because we aren't gullible.

Community improvement certainly worked for Christopher Dean Binse.



So who is adam and eve?



A couple of swingers we met at Sin City. Pretty hot too.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Greens_Win on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:22am

angeleyes wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

angeleyes wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:09am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am:
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.



Probably because we aren't gullible.

Community improvement certainly worked for Christopher Dean Binse.



So who is adam and eve?



A couple of swingers we met at Sin City. Pretty hot too.



And the $300 you paid was for the the lost puppy fund.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Spot of Borg on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:25am

FriYAY wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:14am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:41am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am:

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens


do FACTS ever filter past you defences? Gunman? seige?

it woudl appear not.

idiot.


longbadweekend is calling a poster an idiot again.

Are you feeling insecure? ashamed? sinful? inferior? intellectually challenged? senseless? dullard? ignorant? dim-witted?


LOL

Hey hack you missed...

Thats a bit nasty. We get the point. you dont like greens. Asshole.

SOB

How bad must SOB be feeling... ::)


To whoever it was:
Heh. Sorry for the asshole comment. It is just so stupid to post that crap just because you dont like the greens (or anyone else) you liken them to the likes of ivan milat. We get the message. You dont like the greens. No need for that.

Of course its was friyay that brought attention to it. Thanks friyay.

SOB

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Maqqa on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:40am
See highlighted areas - so this is the Green's poster boy.....



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-23/binse-arrested-as-siege-ends/4027198

Police say gunman Christopher 'Badness' Binse wanted to go out in a blaze of gunfire at the dramatic culmination of a 44-hour siege in suburban Melbourne early this morning.

The convicted armed robber and prison escapee was arrested just after 2:00am after confronting officers who he had held at bay in Keilor East for nearly two days.

Binse fired around a dozen shots during the stand-off and a woman who had been inside the house walked out last night after police used simulated gunfire in an attempt to persuade him to give up.

Assistant Commissioner Stephen Fontana says Binse came out "armed, threatening and refused to drop the weapon" before being shot by officers armed with beanbag guns.

"It was an excellent outcome by the special operations group," he said.

"It was very close ... we're very fortunate that no-one was injured in this incident.

"[Police used] beanbag-type rounds, so he'll have some bruising, but it's very fortunate that no-one was killed or seriously injured."

Commissioner Fontana says officers were "extremely concerned" that Binse did not want to be taken alive.

"The information we had it was quite clear he wasn't going to come out... he wanted to go out in a blaze," he said.

"We had some concerns that he was posing a risk to the community but also [to] himself.

"His options were he was either going to kill himself or he would come out and try to be killed by us and come out and take some of our members out as well.

"It was extremely high risk for everyone involved. We knew this person was armed. He had a number of weapons there, a potential for explosives in the house. We didn't know what we were dealing with.

"We knew he wasn't going to come out willingly and he exposed a risk to the community, ourselves and himself."

Binse is being held in the Melbourne Custody Centre and is expected to be charged later today.

It is expected he will be charged over the siege and over another incident where he allegedly threatened detectives with a gun in a pizza restaurant in the nearby suburb of Niddrie on Sunday night.

"We're expecting to charge him later on for offences resulting from the incident at Niddrie on Sunday evening and also the siege," Commissioner Fontana confirmed.

"We're looking at some serious firearms offences, robberies, conduct endangering life and other weapons-related offences.

"We've also some offences that might arise from the search we did of some storage facilities."

Police say the woman who left the house overnight provided information which helped bring the siege to an end.

"She was actually in a relationship with the person. But the situation may have changed as things went on. She is a witness. We'll get some further clarity around that," Commissioner Fontana said.

"Things started to get pretty, I suppose, desperate in that household as events unfolded last night and she decided she'd had enough and came out."

Some areas around the Sterling Drive house remained sealed off this morning while police searched the house for explosives.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Maqqa on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:43am
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-22/who-is-christopher-27badness27-binse3f/4025752

Convicted prison escapee Christopher 'Badness' Binse, 43, is the gunman currently holed up in a north Melbourne home.

Read more about the man who has spent about half his life in prison and more recently, has managed to keep police officers at bay during a lengthy siege that is still unfolding.

Binse is a repeat bank robber and jail escapee, who since the age of 13, has spent most of his life behind bars.
In 2005, he told ABC Radio National he was made a ward of the state as a child.
I'd run away and break into cars and steal cars just to sleep, and stuff like that, and that caused me to come into contact with the police, be arrested, and sent to juvenile detention centre.

It wasn't a place I should have been really at the end of the day.

I should have been somewhere else, I should have been sent to a psychiatrist or whatever, or psychologist, to see what was the cause of me running away, it was as simple as that.

If they had have addressed the issue then, then I wouldn't have chosen this path. That didn't help me at all, if anything it just spiralled things further. I just started to learn more about crime, how to break into other cars, it was education in further crime.

After spending time behind bars at Pentridge at the age of 17, he started to commit more serious offences.
He was given the nickname 'Badness' by a friend in Pentridge prison in 1988. "There was good, there was bad, there was badder. Then there was badness," Binse said in the 2005 interview.

He committed a number of armed bank robberies and represented himself at trials, even cross-examining some of the victims. He said it wasn't until he spoke to the victims that he felt "the acute affects of what they endured".

He made a number of attempted escapes from prison, including from Parramatta Prison in 1992.
I cut the bars on the top landing of A5 wing in Parramatta, lowered myself onto a roof, and from there I jumped onto the new reception roof.

I was shot at by one of the officers who witnessed me, I attempted to abseil down into a security zone, the bedding sheets I had put together, they broke, and then I had to scale the perimeter fence and ran out the front gate.

Whilst on the run, Binse says he sent police postcards and put ads in newspapers.
I'd actually send the postcard from say Sydney on the day before I flew in, arrive in Victoria, commit an armed robbery that afternoon.

I'd time it where they'd probably received the postcard, so I'd be in their mind, and they would have had me as a suspect for the crime, you know, I was just playing with them.

At Binse's last court appearance in 1996, he was shackled in leg irons and handcuffs while guards carried shotguns.
After his second escape, Binse went back to prison. He served out his sentence in Victoria before being transferred to New South Wales, where he spent a further eight-and-a-half years in jail. He had the dubious honour of being one of the first inmates in the new $20 million maximum security unit at Goulburn Jail, known as Super Max.

Binse was repeatedly denied parole. The last time parole was denied, frustrated and angry, he stopped cooperating with authorities, demanded solitary confinement, and started studying Buddhism.

In 2005, after serving his full sentence, he was released from Super Max. Upon his release, he called for improved rehabilitation program in jail.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by longweekend58 on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:44am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am:
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.


because the gunman is an example of community IMPROVEMENT???

so easy...

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by mozzaok on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:53am

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:44am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:42am:
The right-winged righteous don't believe in community improvement, whatever form it takes.


because the gunman is an example of community IMPROVEMENT???

so easy...

Well as an example improvement would be rehabilitation and education for the guy not a failed prison system

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by longweekend58 on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:54am

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


Its Lee Rhiannon. If anyone doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt, it is her.

And it it had ben Tony Abbott instead of her what would YOU be saying right now?

same thing.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:43pm

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens


Yeah, he changed his path alright - did a 360 and headed straight back to jail today.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:47pm

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


How very hypocritical of you. Do you not remember the ALP and Simon Crean in particular in 2002 shouting from the rooftops that GG Peter Hollingsworth must resign - despite the fact he had not been charged or convicted of any crime? Does this mean that Crean and the ALP expect Thomson to resign? Yeah, I thought you'd say that...

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by mozzaok on May 24th, 2012 at 1:38am

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:54am:

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


Its Lee Rhiannon. If anyone doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt, it is her.

And it it had ben Tony Abbott instead of her what would YOU be saying right now?

same thing.



Well unlike some loonys, who seem to have escaped from a straight jacket, I would say, I cannot fault anything in what they said on that occasion, and if it is Rhiannon in question, I would say, I disagree with quite a few of her beliefs, if it were Abbott, I would say I disagree with nearly all his beliefs, and I hope the loon never becomes PM.

If you wanted to just character assassinate Rhiannon, you would have to be pretty flippin silly to cherry pick a statement which goes no further than praising anti-crime strategies.
Fair dinkum, what maroons.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 24th, 2012 at 7:03am

mozzaok wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 1:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:54am:

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


Its Lee Rhiannon. If anyone doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt, it is her.

And it it had ben Tony Abbott instead of her what would YOU be saying right now?

same thing.



Well unlike some loonys, who seem to have escaped from a straight jacket, I would say, I cannot fault anything in what they said on that occasion, and if it is Rhiannon in question, I would say, I disagree with quite a few of her beliefs, if it were Abbott, I would say I disagree with nearly all his beliefs, and I hope the loon never becomes PM.

If you wanted to just character assassinate Rhiannon, you would have to be pretty flippin silly to cherry pick a statement which goes no further than praising anti-crime strategies.
Fair dinkum, what maroons.


No one needs to conduct a character assassination of Rhiannon - she does it all by herself with her ridiculous statements, speeches and policies.

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by cods on May 24th, 2012 at 7:08am

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:16am:
"I would like to put on record that I congratulate Chris Binse for the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law," she wrote.


Changing the path of people heading to jail, saves tax dollars and family pain.


Well done Greens




oh hes heading for Jail alright .. you are right with that one for a change..

CHALK UP ONE RIGHT FOR GREENIE..


btw he was being investigated for armed holdup... I guess thats one way of avoiding jail..


maybe its time he had a meeting with your aliens members woody! nudge nudge  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by nairbe on May 24th, 2012 at 7:12am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 7:03am:

mozzaok wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 1:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:54am:

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


Its Lee Rhiannon. If anyone doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt, it is her.

And it it had ben Tony Abbott instead of her what would YOU be saying right now?

same thing.



Well unlike some loonys, who seem to have escaped from a straight jacket, I would say, I cannot fault anything in what they said on that occasion, and if it is Rhiannon in question, I would say, I disagree with quite a few of her beliefs, if it were Abbott, I would say I disagree with nearly all his beliefs, and I hope the loon never becomes PM.

If you wanted to just character assassinate Rhiannon, you would have to be pretty flippin silly to cherry pick a statement which goes no further than praising anti-crime strategies.
Fair dinkum, what maroons.


No one needs to conduct a character assassination of Rhiannon - she does it all by herself with her ridiculous statements, speeches and policies.


OH dear, looks like logical analysis has caused the predictable loop's outburst. The flimsical evidence that has been shot down is has now evolved into the usual personal attaches based on blind faith to a party and no thought. Sad really :( :(

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by cods on May 24th, 2012 at 7:23am

mozzaok wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 1:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:54am:

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


Its Lee Rhiannon. If anyone doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt, it is her.

And it it had ben Tony Abbott instead of her what would YOU be saying right now?

same thing.



Well unlike some loonys, who seem to have escaped from a straight jacket, I would say, I cannot fault anything in what they said on that occasion, and if it is Rhiannon in question, I would say, I disagree with quite a few of her beliefs, if it were Abbott, I would say I disagree with nearly all his beliefs, and I hope the loon never becomes PM.

If you wanted to just character assassinate Rhiannon, you would have to be pretty flippin silly to cherry pick a statement which goes no further than praising anti-crime strategies.
Fair dinkum, what maroons.





dont cha love it.... the pot calling the kettle black.. it happens all the time..


hilarious. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Greens linked to mad gunman
Post by longweekend58 on May 25th, 2012 at 9:12am

mozzaok wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 1:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:54am:

mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49am:
It is really rather pathetic that right wing loonys choose to attack her comments from 7 years ago, on the absolutely false presumption that she was praising any aspect of criminality.

The quote says she was congratulating him FOR "the work he is undertaking to reduce the number of people who end up on the wrong side of the law

So, are these right wing loonys pro crime?
Are they hoping to see more kids get involved in criminal activity and end up in jail?

WHAT is wrong with what she said?
Can a single one of you who have chosen to pillory her now,  explain why praising anti crime strategies is wrong?
How do your brains work, that you cannot see the differentiation between supporting positive action, wherever it emanates from, and pretending approving a single positive action of an individual, equates to a glowing endorsement of every action that person had made, or would make in the future, 7 years in the future in this case.
Maybe they are all sharing the same crystal ball they use where they know a persons guilt or innocence without full knowledge of the facts.


Its Lee Rhiannon. If anyone doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt, it is her.

And it it had ben Tony Abbott instead of her what would YOU be saying right now?

same thing.



Well unlike some loonys, who seem to have escaped from a straight jacket, I would say, I cannot fault anything in what they said on that occasion, and if it is Rhiannon in question, I would say, I disagree with quite a few of her beliefs, if it were Abbott, I would say I disagree with nearly all his beliefs, and I hope the loon never becomes PM.

If you wanted to just character assassinate Rhiannon, you would have to be pretty flippin silly to cherry pick a statement which goes no further than praising anti-crime strategies.
Fair dinkum, what maroons.


you are just getting judged as you judge others.

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