Do you feel sorry for either man, on any level? I remember when the news first came out (please excuse the pun) on Slipper, I admitted sympathy for him. The reason is that he was probably repressing his true self for years and years, and trying to cover it all up, although overall, that's no excuse for sexual harassment and/or ripping off tax payers via such means as cab charges.

On the issue of Thomson, however, there is no sympathy on my part. Slipper may have fudged some cab charges, but Thomson actually stole hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars of other people's money, and even worse is that they are some of our lowest payed people in the country. I know that others have pointed to the fact that he doesn't appear to be all there, which does look highly probable, but that doesn't excuse what he's done, and if he is really unfit, then he has the choice to leave. Whether or not he takes it is up to him. This is no one's fault but his own.

Poll now added.

No for both - they put themselves in these situations.

Gee yet another friggin thread on the same topic

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

Gee yet another friggin thread on the same topic

Not really. This is just about how you feel for them.

no, no.

john_g wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 12:42pm:

Do you feel sorry for either man, on any level? I remember when the news first came out (please excuse the pun) on Slipper, I admitted sympathy for him. The reason is that he was probably repressing his true self for years and years, and trying to cover it all up, although overall, that's no excuse for sexual harassment and/or ripping off tax payers via such means as cab charges. On the issue of Thomson, however, there is no sympathy on my part. Slipper may have fudged some cab charges, but Thomson actually stole hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars of other people's money, and even worse is that they are some of our lowest payed people in the country. I know that others have pointed to the fact that he doesn't appear to be all there, which does look highly probable, but that doesn't excuse what he's done, and if he is really unfit, then he has the choice to leave. Whether or not he takes it is up to him. This is no one's fault but his own.

Neither person has been charged, so your assertions are just your OPINION not fact. I prefer to deal in facts. Maybe you could merge all of these thread too muso, I'm so over every thread being about slipper and Thomson. ::)

No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood.

Quote:

Slipper may have fudged some cab charges

Weren't those charges dropped?

SOB

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood.

I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up.

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood.

You should stop harassing karnel then.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Quote: Slipper may have fudged some cab charges Weren't those charges dropped? SOB

No. Mr Ashby dropped it from his civil claim because he wanted to focus purely on the harassment charges.

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up.

What do you mean?

skippy. wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. You should stop harassing karnel then.

This is the thing with the Greens - hypocrites, the lot of them. Who would ever make fun of a thing like sexual harassment?

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

skippy. wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:11pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. You should stop harassing karnel then. This is the thing with the Greens - hypocrites, the lot of them. Who would ever make fun of a thing like sexual harassment?

Better question, imbecile why do you lie so much?

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

skippy. wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:11pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. You should stop harassing karnel then. This is the thing with the Greens - hypocrites, the lot of them. Who would ever make fun of a thing like sexual harassment?

Or punching a gay man in the face simply for being gay?

I have sympathy for neither.

Sympathy is in scant supply in the Hicks camp.
You reap what you sow in this world.

That goes in my views of everything.

If you don't get paid much - tough - this is your own fault for not bother at school and getting the skills required.

If you find you are fired in your job - tough - you should performed better.

If you go out and meet call girls, charge it to the company/union - which he quite clearly did - then he deserves all that is coming to him.

If you are the speaker of the house and you try and touch up another fella. Get out of the chair and get out in generally.

Sympathy?
I have no concept of it.

The question should be..who would be stupid enough to do a dodgy when it comes to visiting a brothel and not use cash?

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up.

Of course he would not, and members that do share too much of their personal lives are setting themselves up to be targeted by some very weird puppies.
Weird puppies can make peoples life a misery, if you give them the opportunity, so the best advice is to not do so, by NOT sharing personal info, beyond anything that is just reasonably social, like what hobbies you like, but NEVER anything that could personally identify you, or more importantly, your families.

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:15pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:14pm: skippy. wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:11pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. You should stop harassing karnel then. This is the thing with the Greens - hypocrites, the lot of them. Who would ever make fun of a thing like sexual harassment? Or punching a gay man in the face simply for being gay?

Off course that's unacceptable, too. Two wrongs don't make a right, adel.

mozzaok wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. Of course he would not, and members that do share too much of their personal lives are setting themselves up to be targeted by some very weird puppies. Weird puppies can make peoples life a misery, if you give them the opportunity, so the best advice is to not do so, by NOT sharing personal info, beyond anything that is just reasonably social, like what hobbies you like, but NEVER anything that could personally identify you, or more importantly, your families.

I was kidding

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean?

He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are.

I'm not going to release specific info, but a close friend of mine was sexually harassed, and there is NO excuse. Surely any reasonable person would agree. Put politics aside for a second.

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

mozzaok wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:18pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. Of course he would not, and members that do share too much of their personal lives are setting themselves up to be targeted by some very weird puppies. Weird puppies can make peoples life a misery, if you give them the opportunity, so the best advice is to not do so, by NOT sharing personal info, beyond anything that is just reasonably social, like what hobbies you like, but NEVER anything that could personally identify you, or more importantly, your families. I was kidding

Besides, we already know matty goes to GREENS meetings at Ryde, just up the road from KFC. ;) Hee told us, and we all know matty doesn't lie, hey?

Gist wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:20pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are.

Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is.

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is.

Oh LOL, yea, OK. ;D ;D ;D

skippy. wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:26pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:25pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is. Oh LOL, yea, OK. ;D ;D ;D

Ive given so much info about myself away over the years Im surprised I dont get people from here and yahoo knocking on my door  :P

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is.

Yeah, right. You just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine.  :P

Both made their bed, let them lie in it and let the courts decide.

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Quote: Slipper may have fudged some cab charges Weren't those charges dropped? SOB No. Mr Ashby dropped it from his civil claim because he wanted to focus purely on the harassment charges.

Doesnt that mean the charges are dropped? Looks like the word dropped in there to me.

SOB

chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

Both made their bed, let them lie in it and let the courts decide.

Giday chook,where you been? I haven't seen you around much lately, I hope you're well.

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:17pm:

The question should be..who would be stupid enough to do a dodgy when it comes to visiting a brothel and not use cash?

If you read the FWA report.
On several occasions he went to a cashpoint, withdrew $500 in cash, flew to Melbourne, checked into a hotel, called 2 brothels, paid for the room and incidentals on the card and who knows where the cash went....

Well we all do really.

The guy is scum and deserves to be hauled over hot coals.

Remember this is the money of the lowest paid people in Australia....

How come the poll only includes independents? There are a few on the Liberal team who have been accused of wrongdoing.

Liberal MP, Mary Josephine Fisher, was convicted of assault, and charged with shoplifting.

Liberal MP Geoff Shaw no faces serious accusations of defrauding the state of Victoria. Now he is being investigated over another matter:

Liberal MP Geoff Shaw probed over tax debt

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/05/12/1226353/824948-geoff-shaw.jpg

BESIEGED Liberal MP Geoff Shaw is facing investigation by the tax office amid claims he underpaid debts to mum-and-dad investors who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.
Recommended Coverage
Shaw fights partner over bills

End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.

Mr Shaw has been the subject of a 20-month investigation by the Australian Tax Office, which has already established he has short-changed one employee who was paid through a trust fund.

The Herald Sun can also reveal the accountant initially underpaid mum-and-dad investors on money owed from a failed investment scheme.

A parliamentary investigation into claims he ordered his taxpayer-financed car be used for his hardware business is continuing.

The issues, as well as allegations of harassment of his ex-wife, present a major headache for the Baillieu Government, which holds power by a single seat.

Documents seen by the Herald Sun reveal the ATO investigation has found the Frankston MP's company, Southern Cross Hardware, did not meet its superannuation obligations to a whistleblower employee.

Sources connected to his hardware business and accounting firm claim the companies concealed several employees' payments.

Mr Shaw's lawyer, Peter Bartlett, issued a statement yesterday acknowledging the business was "still in discussions" with the ATO over an amount under $1700.

"We understand that these discussions are in the nature of commonplace commercial dealings with the ATO," Mr Bartlett said.

"Southern Cross has acted appropriately throughout."

Several investors have also accused the MP of trying to welch on repaying debts owed to them after they suffered massive losses through investments in a failed scheme he ran.

One who lost tens of thousands of dollars said it was only after Mr Shaw's former financial adviser, partner Robert Pearce, blew the whistle on underpayments that Mr Shaw handed over the rest of his money.

"When I read he had been voted into State Parliament I almost choked on my Weet-Bix," he said.

...The Liberals also face scrutiny over claims that sources close to the party pressured Mr Shaw's ex-wife not to make formal complaints over domestic issues as recently as eight weeks ago.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/liberal-mp-probed-over-tax-debt/story-fn7x8me2-1226366235095

Liberal MP accused of not disclosing interests

FEDERAL Liberal MP Craig Kelly has been accused of failing to declare company directorships, including one for a business that went into liquidation...

...the Government said Mr Kelly had failed to declare potential liabilities and possible criminal charges arising from the collapse of his family company of which he was a shadow director...

..."In contempt of the resolution of this house the member had failed to declare the company directorships," Mr Albanese told Parliament.

He also said there were reports of Mr Kelly acting as a solicitor while a member of Parliament.

Mr Albanese said if Mr Kelly was found not to have reported any income or conflicts of interest, that would be a serious contempt against Parliament...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/liberal-mp-accused-of-not-disclosing-interests/story-e6frf7jx-1226362414869

falah wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 2:51pm:

How come the poll only includes independents? There are a few on the Liberal team who have been accused of wrongdoing. Liberal MP, Mary Josephine Fisher, was convicted of assault, and charged with shoplifting. Liberal MP Geoff Shaw no faces serious accusations of defrauding the state of Victoria. Now he is being investigated over another matter: Liberal MP Geoff Shaw probed over tax debt http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/05/12/1226353/824948-geoff-shaw.jpg BESIEGED Liberal MP Geoff Shaw is facing investigation by the tax office amid claims he underpaid debts to mum-and-dad investors who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Recommended Coverage Shaw fights partner over bills End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. Mr Shaw has been the subject of a 20-month investigation by the Australian Tax Office, which has already established he has short-changed one employee who was paid through a trust fund. The Herald Sun can also reveal the accountant initially underpaid mum-and-dad investors on money owed from a failed investment scheme. A parliamentary investigation into claims he ordered his taxpayer-financed car be used for his hardware business is continuing. The issues, as well as allegations of harassment of his ex-wife, present a major headache for the Baillieu Government, which holds power by a single seat. Documents seen by the Herald Sun reveal the ATO investigation has found the Frankston MP's company, Southern Cross Hardware, did not meet its superannuation obligations to a whistleblower employee. Sources connected to his hardware business and accounting firm claim the companies concealed several employees' payments. Mr Shaw's lawyer, Peter Bartlett, issued a statement yesterday acknowledging the business was "still in discussions" with the ATO over an amount under $1700. "We understand that these discussions are in the nature of commonplace commercial dealings with the ATO," Mr Bartlett said. "Southern Cross has acted appropriately throughout." Several investors have also accused the MP of trying to welch on repaying debts owed to them after they suffered massive losses through investments in a failed scheme he ran. One who lost tens of thousands of dollars said it was only after Mr Shaw's former financial adviser, partner Robert Pearce, blew the whistle on underpayments that Mr Shaw handed over the rest of his money. "When I read he had been voted into State Parliament I almost choked on my Weet-Bix," he said. ...The Liberals also face scrutiny over claims that sources close to the party pressured Mr Shaw's ex-wife not to make formal complaints over domestic issues as recently as eight weeks ago. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/liberal-mp-probed-over-tax-debt/story-fn7x8me2-1226366235095

It is a shame we have to wait for findings, then wait up to 3 and a half years before we ask for him to quit, then wait for it to go to court to see if he is guilty of anything.

Come back in about 4 years and ill let you know what I truely think.

Gist wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:25pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is. Yeah, right. You just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine.  :P

Prove it, bitch.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 2:26pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:12pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: Quote: Slipper may have fudged some cab charges Weren't those charges dropped? SOB No. Mr Ashby dropped it from his civil claim because he wanted to focus purely on the harassment charges. Doesnt that mean the charges are dropped? Looks like the word dropped in there to me. SOB

No, that's still being investigated. Mr Ashby stands by the claims, but is not pursuing them himself.

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:35pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:25pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is. Yeah, right. You just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine.  :P Prove it, bitch.

Listen for the doorbell over the next few days  :D

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

Prove it, bitch.

ooOOOOooo matty! Careful! You don't want Karnal to see that kind of language do you?

And besides, how do you know? Hmm?

progressiveslol wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 2:57pm:

It is a shame we have to wait for findings, then wait up to 3 and a half years before we ask for him to quit, then wait for it to go to court to see if he is guilty of anything. Come back in about 4 years and ill let you know what I truely think.

Never too ashamed to show off your abject hypocrisy eh hypocriticalolly?

Mr Abbott admits Liberal party politics inhumane!!

'In Parliament Mr Abbott said "on a human level he had sympathy" for the Member for Dobell.'

source: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1653237/Abbott-urged-to-remember-MP-who-died

If you don't want to become,e an Australian, then you can get out of my country. 8-)

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

If you don't want to become,e an Australian, then you can get out of my country. 8-)

Which one of us poison-bread throwers are you talking to buddy?

You always have the right to leave. 8-)

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 3:58pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 3:56pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:35pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:25pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is. Yeah, right. You just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine.  :P Prove it, bitch. Listen for the doorbell over the next few days  :D

From whom?

adelcrow wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up.

Would that include Skippy and Gist?

matty<<Prove it, bitch. >>

Watch it Gist, that's a pick up line and matty's had his thingies removed apparently.

Sad posts on this thread. I do feel for them both, not because the got caught for that they can suffer but because this has become a very toxic argument over one vote. I heard Mr Abbott tell the biggest lie i have ever heard today. He said it would never happen in a government he leads. A complete lie no two ways about it. I still want to see him  as PM with a minority of one vote for 18 months and see how he goes.

matty wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 3:58pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 3:56pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:35pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:25pm: Gist wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:20pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:13pm: adelcrow wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:10pm: matty wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 1:08pm: No for both. ALL self-inflicted and ALL their own fault. I know how bad sexual harassment is from personal experience. I see that roo-girl is still just as stupid as ever. Imagine if these two were Liberal or National MPs? He'd be calling for blood. I wonder if Freediver would consider a policy of posting peoples personal details if they abuse others on this site..it would certainly clean things up. What do you mean? He means you're not completely anonymous matty. Ever occur to you that some people may know who you are? In real life I mean. Who you really are. Not really. No one on here knows who anyone else really is. Yeah, right. You just keep telling yourself that. You'll be fine.  :P Prove it, bitch. Listen for the doorbell over the next few days  :D From whom?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls.

The question should be..who would be stupid enough to do a dodgy when it comes to visiting a brothel and not use cash?

Craig Thomson of course!!!  ;D ;D

Good point angeleyes, he is accused of taking 100k in cash, yet chose to use union branded plastic to pay for prostitutes, instead of the cash he is supposed to have been continually stealing.
No chance the fact that those two facts do not sit logically together means the loony right say he is just a really dumb crook, and refuse to concede even the slightest possibility that he may actually have been set up.

mozzaok wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Good point angeleyes, he is accused of taking 100k in cash, yet chose to use union branded plastic to pay for prostitutes, instead of the cash he is supposed to have been continually stealing. No chance the fact that those two facts do not sit logically together means the loony right say he is just a really dumb crook, and refuse to concede even the slightest possibility that he may actually have been set up.

When Thommo looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and quacks (lies) like a duck - then he's a duck

If The ALP do not get rid of Thompson, they are responsible for the suicides of Australian citizens despairing at their corruption.

No chance the fact that those two facts do not sit logically together

Labor and logic don't go together.

Ask McDonald and the Obeids in NSW.

nairbe wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 5:45pm:

Sad posts on this thread. I do feel for them both, not because the got caught for that they can suffer but because this has become a very toxic argument over one vote. I heard Mr Abbott tell the biggest lie i have ever heard today. He said it would never happen in a government he leads. A complete lie no two ways about it. I still want to see him  as PM with a minority of one vote for 18 months and see how he goes.

Not a lie, He is going to have such a massive majority that one vote either way will never matter to him.

I think he credits Pell and the angels for Oakshott and Windsor saying no to him in 2010. Talk about blessing in disguise!

Abbot will owe his success to the misfits and outcasts from the Global Corporate Maggot who wage resistance against it tirelessly day in and day out like me and do the hard yards to make the CEDO's life hell!!!!

Soren wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

nairbe wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 5:45pm: Sad posts on this thread. I do feel for them both, not because the got caught for that they can suffer but because this has become a very toxic argument over one vote. I heard Mr Abbott tell the biggest lie i have ever heard today. He said it would never happen in a government he leads. A complete lie no two ways about it. I still want to see him  as PM with a minority of one vote for 18 months and see how he goes. Not a lie, He is going to have such a massive majority that one vote either way will never matter to him. I think he credits Pell and the angels for Oakshott and Windsor saying no to him in 2010. Talk about blessing in disguise!

Abbott wont have enough seats to get anything through the Senate without an agreement with the Greens..so the CO2 tax will remain in place and Abbott will have an out for backflipping on a promise.

I heard Mr Abbott tell the biggest lie i have ever heard today. He said it would never happen in a government he leads. A complete lie no two ways about it.


You are calling someone a liar for something that hasn't happened.

Weird logic.