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Title: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by imcrookonit on May 29th, 2012 at 6:57am
Blair, interrupted: protester bursts into Leveson courtroom
Karen Kissane May 29, 2012 Surprise interruption ... David Lawley-Walkin burst in through a secure corridor. Former British prime minister Tony Blair has denied being too close to Rupert Murdoch, as the Leveson inquiry into media ethics took a dramatic turn overnight. :-? Security guards were forced to intervene at one point during Mr Blair’s evidence, when a protester burst into the courtroom and accused him of being a war criminal. :o In a moment reminiscent of a cream pie attack on Mr Murdoch before a parliamentary committee last year, David Lawley-Walkin, a freelance documentary film-maker, appeared from behing Lord Leveson’s bench shouting: “This man should be arrested for war crimes! JP Morgan paid him off for the Iraq war. Three months after we invaded Iraq, he held up the Iraq bank for £20 million. He was then paid $6 million every year, and still is, from JP Morgan, six months after he left office. The man is a war criminal!” :( Mr Lawley-Walkin was bundled out of the room by guards, with Lord Justice Leveson ordering an investigation into the security breach. Mr Lawley-Walkin later told the Guardian he had made his way into the courtroom unchallenged via a back staircase. Britain's former Prime Minister Tony Blair, left, watches as David Lawley-Walkin is restrained. "I thought, I'm not going to be able to do this. I nearly gave up, in fact. But when I figured out a way through it was fairly straightforward,'' he was quoted as saying, telling the newspaper he had later been handed over to police but had been released without charge. For his part, Mr Blair said the accusations of payment from JP Morgan were completely untrue: “I’ve never had discussion with them about that [Iraq].'' (Financial services firm JP Morgan Chase was appointed to operate a US-created bank in Iraq to manage billions of dollars in imports and exports from the oil-rich nation). In his evidence, Mr Blair told the inquiry that Rupert Murdoch had not lobbied him over media policy and that there was no “implied deal” between them. “There was no deal on issues to do with the media with Rupert Murdoch or, indeed, anybody else, either express or implied. And to be fair, he never sought such a thing,” Mr Blair said. “Was I aware he had certain interests and was I aware the media as a whole had a strong interest in us not legislating on the media? Absolutely.” Mr Blair said he never felt under any pressure to help with the commercial interests of the Murdochs or any other media proprietors: “We decided more stuff against Murdoch interests than in favour of it. Did that mean they changed their support for me? No, it didn’t, in fact. Even though there were things they really didn’t like.” Former British prime minister Tony Blair ... insists Rupert Murdoch did not lobby him. Asked whether he got too close to News International, Mr Blair said he became closer to Mr Murdoch after he left office, which is when he became godfather to one of Mr Murdoch’s children. “The relationship became a lot easier and better… I would never have become godfather to one of the children [while I was Prime Minister].” :-? On whether he got too close to former News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks, he said that towards the end of his time in office he needed all the friends he could get but “to put it bluntly, the decision-maker was not Rebekah Brooks …. It was Rupert Murdoch, for sure”. Mr Blair acknowledged that he sent Mrs Brooks a message of sympathy after she was forced to resign over the phone-hacking scandal last year: “I am somebody who doesn’t believe in being a fair-weather friend and certainly I said I was sorry for what happened to her.” Mr Blair had earlier confirmed to the inquiry that he had three phone calls with Mr Murdoch in the run-up to the Iraq war in March 2003. Mr Blair had initiated one of the calls: “I would have been wanting to explain what we were doing. I think I had similar calls with the Observer and the Telegraph… “Probably I would have been asking him what the situation was in the US and Australia, which were part of the coalition [of countries willing to join the US intervention in Iraq]. But no, I wouldn’t have asked him about press coverage.” Mr Blair denied a claim from a former aide that Mr Murdoch had been “the 24th member” of his cabinet and denied that Mr Murdoch had been promised he would be informed any impending policy changes in some areas. The former prime minister also attacked the British press, which he had once called a “feral beast”, over the way some elements of it had waged “a personal vendetta” against his wife, Cherie. He said she had contacted lawyers more than 30 times over articles that had been written about her. “I thought and I do think that the attacks on her and my children were unnecessary and wrong. I just don’t think it is part of the political debate… What I think is wrong is where sections of the media… [have] powerful people say, ‘Right, we are going to go for that person.’ “And then what happens is they go for you… it’s full-on, full-frontal. That’s not journalism. In my view, it’s an abuse of power.” Lord Justice Leveson gave an insight into what he might recommend at the end of the inquiry into press practices. He told Mr Blair there needed to be a stronger press complaints system that was fast, effective and cheap for victims to access. He also thought that editors considering an expose on an individual could seek the advice of a panel on whether to notify the subject of the story before publication. Editors could be free to ignore any advice to notify, but if they did, they might risk exemplary damages in any subsequent court case, Justice Leveson said. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/blair-interrupted-protester-bursts-into-leveson-courtroom-20120529-1zfuj.html#ixzz1wCQZgdJb |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by imcrookonit on May 29th, 2012 at 6:59am
Security guards were forced to intervene at one point during Mr Blair’s evidence, when a protester burst into the courtroom and accused him of being a war criminal.
In a moment reminiscent of a cream pie attack on Mr Murdoch before a parliamentary committee last year, David Lawley-Walkin, a freelance documentary film-maker, appeared from behing Lord Leveson’s bench shouting: “This man should be arrested for war crimes! JP Morgan paid him off for the Iraq war. Three months after we invaded Iraq, he held up the Iraq bank for £20 million. He was then paid $6 million every year, and still is, from JP Morgan, six months after he left office. The man is a war criminal!” :o |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by pansi1951 on May 29th, 2012 at 7:14am
John Howard is a war criminal too. He wouldn't have got paid quite as much as Blair, we were only minor players.
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Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by Spot of Borg on May 29th, 2012 at 9:27am
Okay I typed this up before this thread started so im posting it anyway but ill make it a quote cause i can.
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Yeah blair and howard and bush are all war criminals imo. SOB |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by falah on May 29th, 2012 at 10:48am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iST6nhbN_GU
Tony Blair joins investment bank Tony Blair has taken a part-time post with US investment bank JP Morgan. Mr Blair, who stood down as UK prime minister in June last year, has been employed "in a senior advisory capacity", the bank said. He said he looked forward to advising the bank on the "political and economic changes that globalisation brings". It is not known how much JP Morgan will pay him, but some estimates say more than $1m (£500,000) a year. The bank said he had a "unique perspective"... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7180306.stm |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 29th, 2012 at 10:53am
I agree that they are obviously war criminals but to focus on them takes away from their puppet masters.
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Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by Peter Freedman on May 29th, 2012 at 11:02am
The Blair evidence was a fascinating insight into the fear instilled in political leaders by the power wielded by people like Rupert Murdoch. Blair felt compelled to carefully "manage" his relationship with Murdoch, in other words keep him sweet. He blurred over precisely how he did that.
The former British PM made some telling points about the habit of the news media to blur the difference between reporting and comment. The Australian is a perfect example of this, frequently allowing its political bias to colour the way it reports the news. |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by falah on May 29th, 2012 at 11:09am
The relationship is obvioulsy deeper than what is being portrayed.
Why was Blair made "godfather" of Murdoch's child? Godparenting: what's God got to do with it? As Tony Blair's appointment as godfather to Rupert Murdoch's daughter shows, godparents aren't just about spiritual guidance, or presents. They're about power, influence and networking It was just a small, soulful family gathering. Rupert Murdoch, Wendi Deng and their two daughters on the banks of the river Jordan, at the exact spot where Jesus is said to have been baptised, the whole group swathed in white, attending to the deepest spiritual matters. As you'd expect, the family was joined at their daughters' christening in 2010 by their closest intimates: Nicole Kidman, Queen Rania of Jordan, Hugh Jackman, Donald Trump's daughter, and a photographer from Hello! magazine. Also, Tony Blair. Because when God's in the balance, you know who to call. The revelation in Vogue that Blair is one of Wendi Deng's "closest friends", so much so that he is godfather to her nine-year-old daughter Grace Murdoch, came as a surprise to most people. And while it provided yet more confirmation of the uncomfortably close links between the Murdoch empire and British politics – a link cemented, in this particular case, in 1997, when the Sun newspaper came out in support of Tony Blair... http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/sep/06/tony-blair-godparents-power-networking |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by Spot of Borg on May 29th, 2012 at 11:10am Peter Freedman wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:02am:
Despite my thoughts about blairs policies and war crimes i was impressed with his performance. He also *seemed* to be pretty open about it all but then hes a politician. I have always thought that he was pressures (or even blackmailed who knows) into that Iraq thing. He was resistant @ first. SOB |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by FriYAY on May 29th, 2012 at 12:44pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:10am:
Try and track down Blair’s speech when he left parliament. It will give you an insight into what it is like to lead a country when a popular ally has planes flown into building. Watch him talk about his excitement at being given a chance to improve England, his hopes and dreams……all out the window after 9/11. How much everything changed, how much time and effort it took. See what it is like to be awake at 4am in the morning, every man and his dog, all with their own barrow to push, all home in bed, after shouting their opinion at you. But when all the shouting is done, there you are, having to make such monumental decisions that will affect your country and yourself forever. I’m not saying believe him one way or the other. |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by Spot of Borg on May 29th, 2012 at 12:54pm Quote:
Yeah he touched on it a lil last night. SOB |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by Swagman on May 29th, 2012 at 10:26pm Quote:
It wasn't illegal.... :( |
Title: Re: Did Blair Get Payed Off For The illegal Iraq War. Post by bobbythebat1 on May 29th, 2012 at 10:33pm
But how would Blair be able to launder that much money?
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