Well it seems the Syrians are following their religion with all sweetness and light.
This is a case of intolerance common to all religions.
Absolute bloody minded murder, still that's religion for you.

bludger wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:38pm:

Well it seems the Syrians are following their religion with all sweetness and light. This is a case of intolerance common to all religions. Absolute bloody minded murder, still that's religion for you.

Yeah the ones @ the top (cardinals, pastors, imam, queens. popes, are the corrupt ones and the ordinary duped ppl that prolly actually believe the rot are the ones that pay the consequences.

SOB

bludger wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:38pm:

Well it seems the Syrians are following their religion with all sweetness and light. This is a case of intolerance common to all religions. Absolute bloody minded murder, still that's religion for you.

Yes, the socialist Ba'th government are following their Alawi religion to the letter.

bludger wrote on May 30^th, 2012 at 10:38pm:

Well it seems the Syrians are following their religion with all sweetness and light. This is a case of intolerance common to all religions. Absolute bloody minded murder, still that's religion for you.

Which Syrians?
What murder?

falah wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 8:36am:

bludger wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:38pm: Well it seems the Syrians are following their religion with all sweetness and light. This is a case of intolerance common to all religions. Absolute bloody minded murder, still that's religion for you. Yes, the socialist Ba'th government are following their Alawi religion to the letter.

Because we all know that 'real' Muslims wouldn't murder anyone, or at least not without making sure they can explain it away as the victim's fault.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2012 at 12:37pm:

falah wrote on May 31st, 2012 at 8:36am: bludger wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 10:38pm: Well it seems the Syrians are following their religion with all sweetness and light. This is a case of intolerance common to all religions. Absolute bloody minded murder, still that's religion for you. Yes, the socialist Ba'th government are following their Alawi religion to the letter. Because we all know that 'real' Muslims wouldn't murder anyone, or at least not without making sure they can explain it away as the victim's fault.

Rather then the western way which is to just call it something else

It doesn't matter a ratzarse to me. Muslim clobbering muslim,
Jews clobbering muslim, yanks clobbering everybody , chinese clobbering tibetans. I'm keeping my head down and when it's all over and only a few enlightened atheists are left I'm going to start a new religion called atheist for god or sunnink.
And watch it start all over again. :D

Who is to say everyone in syria is of the same religion anyway

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 6:19pm:

Who is to say everyone in syria is of the same religion anyway SOB

They are not all the same their is a multitude of Muslim religions Sunni, Twelver Shia,  Alawites,  Ismailis & Druzes when they have finnished killing themselves, decided who is gunna be the new top dog then watch em kill the Christians! 

I think the plan is not to kill the Shia, except for the leaders and anyone who talks about it, then the Shia can help with the next bunch.

bludger,

The Syrian regime are godless. The people they are murdering are Muslim believers.

I think you've got your story mixed up, hardly surprising.

Not only are they godless, they were sneakily put there by the west against the will of the locals to keep the Muslims down.

Right Abu?

Well a few things we do know.

1) The Baathist ideology is nationalist & socialist, nothing to do with Islam. The Syrian variety was founded by Arab nationalists of all religious backgrounds, but who believed in secularism/atheism, not the religions of their ancestors.

2) The Baathist goals, whilst they claimed to be in the interests of the nations they existed in, usually did not serve the interests of those nations at all, but instead the interests of foreign powers. The Soviets & French & Americans, at various times.

Clearly "The Game" is not controlled at all by local players.

FD, if you had the requisite intellect to understand this kind of stuff, you'd know about it already I think. Clearly you don't.

That article contradicts your claims about the Baath party being nationalistic and socialistic.

freediver wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 11:28am:

That article contradicts your claims about the Baath party being nationalistic and socialistic.

Quote:

The Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party (Arabic: حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي Hizb Al-Ba'ath Al-'Arabi Al-Ishtiraki‎) was a political party founded in Syria by Michel Aflaq, Salah al-Din al-Bitar and associates of Zaki al-Arsuzi. The party espoused Ba'athism, an ideology mixing Arab nationalist, pan-Arabism, Arab socialist and anti-imperialist interests. Ba'athism calls for the renaissance or resurrection and unification of the Arab world into a single state. Its motto—"Unity, Liberty, Socialism" (wahda, hurriya, ishtirakiya)—refers to Arab unity, and freedom from non-Arab control and interference. The party was founded by the merger of the Arab Ba'ath Movement, led by Aflaq and al-Bitar, and the Arab Ba'ath, led by al-Arsuzi, on 7 April 1947 as the Arab Ba'ath Party. The party quickly established branches in other Arab countries, although it would only hold power in Iraq and Syria. The Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party was merged with the Arab Socialist Party led by Akram al-Hawrani in 1952 to form the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party#Syria

falah you'll have to forgive freediver, he can read, but his comprehension is extremely poor. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 4:03pm:

Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yeah, I've figured that out about Freediver. The scary thing is he actually seems to think that he is clever, and he wants to start up a political party.

May God protect us from such idiots ever running any country.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:42pm:

bludger, The Syrian regime are godless. The people they are murdering are Muslim believers. I think you've got your story mixed up, hardly surprising.

I shed no tears for either side.

Don't lie, you are shaking in your boots at the prospect of Assad, Mubarak, Qadhafi and all the other Zionist lackeys getting their marching orders.

Without these treasonous dogs to hold their people down, your trespass in Palestine is over buddy.

Pack your bags and polish up your Czech passport, you're gonna need it.

Syrian religion


Moslems deserve ISLAM!


Syria today, is an example of the intractable perfection of ISLAM.

Both sides of teh conflict in Syria know that Allah, is on their side.

And each is determined to prove to the world that ISLAM will be the victor.




And i am sure that ISLAM will be the victor.

After all, when your raison d’être is to produce dead bodies, ISLAM is sure to prove to the whole world that it can excel - in that regard.



"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."
The words of some moslem uber master, probably a Syrian. Either a Sunni, or an Alawite Syrian moslem uber master.



Dictionary;
Übermensch = = the ideal superior man of the future who could rise above conventional Christian morality to create and impose his own values, originally described by Nietzsche



+++

QUESTION;

Why won't moslems take responsibility for the conduct of their co-religionists, and take responsibility for the 'lawful' violence which ISLAM clearly encourages ?

Are moslems ashamed of the conduct of their co-religionists, and are moslems ashamed of the 'lawful' violence which ISLAM clearly encourages in the present Syrian conflict [between these two moslem factions] ?

One would find it difficult to believe so!




QUESTION;

Why won't Western journalists confront moslems [in this country, Australia] about the conduct of their co-religionists, in Syria?

And why won't Western journalists confront moslems [in this country, Australia] about the contents of ISLAM's foundation texts [i.e. Koran and Hadith] ?

When these ISLAMIC foundation texts which clearly obligates, and encourages and makes 'lawful', moslem warfare against Allah's enemies [i.e. Allah's enemies being those people who do not believe, as moslems believe] ?




COMMENT;
The present Syrian conflict [between these two moslem factions], is a good example of why moslems should not be permitted to be citizens of non-moslem nations.

i.e.
ISLAM is a death cult.





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ISLAM divides the world into two camps.

DIVISIONS OF THE WORLD, ACCORDING TO ISLAM,

Dar al-Islam = = the house of Islam, house of Peace [those places where Sharia has authority].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Islam
.....like Syria!!!
/sarc off

Dar al-Harb = = "house of war", those countries where Sharia does not rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Harb



Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war", a non-moslem, WHO DOES NOT LIVE ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC LAW.

".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live." [a direct quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi

What part of the world did Jews originally come from?

brumbie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:44am:

What part of the world did Jews originally come from?

The land of Israel.
Given to the Jews by God himself.

"Take this land in my name for I am the Lord"

brumbie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:44am:

What part of the world did Jews originally come from?

Ashkenazi jews who make up 80% of jewish population come from Europe, DNA studies prove this.


Quote:

PC1 distinguished Northern and Southern European and Jewish and Middle Eastern populations. Along this axis, Europeans were closest to Ashkenazi Jews, followed by Sephardic, Italian, Syrian, and Middle Eastern Jews. Of the European populations, the Northern Italians showed the greatest proximity to the Jews, followed by Sardinians and French (Figure 1B), an observation that was confirmed by FST (Table 1). Also along this axis, the Adygei, a Caucasian population, showed proximity to the Ashkenazi Jews... ...Two major differences among the populations in this study were the high degree of European admixture (30%–60%) among the Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Italian, and Syrian Jews and the genetic proximity of these populations to each other compared to their proximity to Iranian and Iraqi Jews... ...recorded mass conversions led to 6 million people practicing Judaism in Roman times or up to 10% of the population of the Roman Empire. Thus, the genetic proximity of these European/Syrian Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi Jews, to each other and to French, Northern Italian, and Sardinian populations favors the idea of non-Semitic Mediterranean ancestry in the formation of the European/Syrian Jewish groups... ...Admixture with local populations, including Khazars and Slavs, may have occurred subsequently during the 1000 year (2nd millennium) history of the European Jews.... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/?tool=pmcentrez

Then you as a Muslim should not be in a white person country?
See how you don't like the argument the other side?

Avram he is not basing it on religion. He is arguing that racism should dictate where you are allowed to live and should be used as an excuse for mass forced migrations.

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 11:58am:

Avram he is not basing it on religion. He is arguing that racism should dictate where you are allowed to live and should be used as an excuse for mass forced migrations.

So why are they not saying coloured Muslims in England, France, Australia should all leave?
You know Mossad calls London "Londonistan"

Islam permits such hypocrisy. It is all about setting different standards for Muslims and non-Muslims. Even the non-Muslims get different standards applied to them by the Muslims based on how pagan they are.

brumbie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:44am:

What part of the world did Jews originally come from?

Where they lived thousands of years ago is Irrelevant.

My ancestors lived in Germany 2000 years ago, doesn't mean I have a right to go and boot German families from their homes and make it my own... does it?

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Islam permits such hypocrisy. It is all about setting different standards for Muslims and non-Muslims. Even the non-Muslims get different standards applied to them by the Muslims based on how pagan they are.

Surely even a simpleton like you fd can see the difference between the Zionist occupation of Palestine, and a few Pakistanis opening a curry shop in East London... then again, maybe I'm giving you too much credit.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 12:14pm:

brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 8:44am: What part of the world did Jews originally come from? Where they lived thousands of years ago is Irrelevant. My ancestors in Germany 2000 years ago, doesn't mean I have a right to go and boot German families from their homes and make it my own... does it?

What do you think should be done with Israeli Jews?


Quote:

Surely even a simpleton like you fd can see the difference between the Zionist occupation of Palestine, and a few Pakistanis opening a curry shop in East London... then again, maybe I'm giving you too much credit.

Almost all Israeli Jews immigrated legally, just like the London Pakis.

I realise you have claimed before that this immigration was illegal, but you never came up with a solid explanation for why. It just evaporated into thin air after one or two simple questions.

falah wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 11:48am:

brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 8:44am: What part of the world did Jews originally come from? Ashkenazi jews who make up 80% of jewish population come from Europe, DNA studies prove this. Quote: PC1 distinguished Northern and Southern European and Jewish and Middle Eastern populations. Along this axis, Europeans were closest to Ashkenazi Jews, followed by Sephardic, Italian, Syrian, and Middle Eastern Jews. Of the European populations, the Northern Italians showed the greatest proximity to the Jews, followed by Sardinians and French (Figure 1B), an observation that was confirmed by FST (Table 1). Also along this axis, the Adygei, a Caucasian population, showed proximity to the Ashkenazi Jews... ...Two major differences among the populations in this study were the high degree of European admixture (30%–60%) among the Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Italian, and Syrian Jews and the genetic proximity of these populations to each other compared to their proximity to Iranian and Iraqi Jews... ...recorded mass conversions led to 6 million people practicing Judaism in Roman times or up to 10% of the population of the Roman Empire. Thus, the genetic proximity of these European/Syrian Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi Jews, to each other and to French, Northern Italian, and Sardinian populations favors the idea of non-Semitic Mediterranean ancestry in the formation of the European/Syrian Jewish groups... ...Admixture with local populations, including Khazars and Slavs, may have occurred subsequently during the 1000 year (2nd millennium) history of the European Jews.... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/?tool=pmcentrez

It seems that falah is suggesting that as your ancestors came from germany you may very well be jewish somewhere down the line Abu.Interesting.

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 12:15pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:14pm: brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 8:44am: What part of the world did Jews originally come from? Where they lived thousands of years ago is Irrelevant. My ancestors in Germany 2000 years ago, doesn't mean I have a right to go and boot German families from their homes and make it my own... does it? What do you think should be done with Israeli Jews?

Go back to their countries of origin, although those who seek asylum, and are cleared of crimes against the Palestinian people should be granted asylum.


freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 12:15pm:

Quote: Surely even a simpleton like you fd can see the difference between the Zionist occupation of Palestine, and a few Pakistanis opening a curry shop in East London... then again, maybe I'm giving you too much credit. Almost all Israeli Jews immigrated legally, just like the London Pakis. I realise you have claimed before that this immigration was illegal, but you never came up with a solid explanation for why. It just evaporated into thin air after one or two simple questions.

Come on fd, detailed this several times. Most of them came during the British occupation, and then they established a state of top of Palestine. All of this was illegal. Just because you overrun the country and then make new laws doesn't make it legal.

So you'd have no qualms with Pakistanis in London forming militias, bombing hotels, assassinating politicians, invading towns and villages massacring their inhabitants and force marching others into exile, and declaring England to be an Islamic state, then rounding all Anglos up into refugee camps? You'd say that's fair and legal?

Effectively that is what you are saying.

Someone is peddling hypocrisy here, but it certainly ain't me.

brumbie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 12:57pm:

It seems that falah is suggesting that as your ancestors came from germany you may very well be jewish somewhere down the line Abu.Interesting.

I know you're not too quick on the uptake, but he didn't actually say "all Germans are Jews". He said Ashkenazi Jews are Germans.

Think about it for a while, and you might get it. There's an old saying we often say to kids, about fingers and thumbs, that might help you visualise it.

All thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs.

But even if my ancestors were Jews, no problem for me. I have no problem with Jewish ethnicity, just with people who squat in other people's countries, and make them refugees.

"""Quoting""" from the same article falah:

Jews originated as a national and religious group in the Middle East during the second

millennium BCE1 and have maintained continuous genetic, cultural, and religious traditions

since that time, despite a series of Diasporas.2 Middle Eastern (Iranian and Iraqi) Jews

date from communities that were formed in the Babylon and Persian Empires in the fourth to

sixth centuries BCE.

Earlier genetic studies on blood groups and serum markers suggested that Jewish Diaspora

populations had Middle Eastern origin

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 1:13pm:

brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:57pm: It seems that falah is suggesting that as your ancestors came from germany you may very well be jewish somewhere down the line Abu.Interesting. I know you're not too quick on the uptake, but he didn't actually say "all Germans are Jews". He said Ashkenazi Jews are Germans. Think about it for a while, and you might get it. There's an old saying we often say to kids, about fingers and thumbs, that might help you visualise it. All thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs. But even if my ancestors were Jews, no problem for me. I have no problem with Jewish ethnicity, just with people who squat in other people's countries, and make them refugees.

 

I take it you are of Australian aboriginal descent then?

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 2:05am:

Don't lie, you are shaking in your boots at the prospect of Assad, Mubarak, Qadhafi and all the other Zionist lackeys getting their marching orders. Without these treasonous dogs to hold their people down, your trespass in Palestine is over buddy. Pack your bags and polish up your Czech passport, you're gonna need it.

You should thank your sky pixie, Allah, everyday that Israel shows constraint. If it truly desired, it could wipe those countries off the face of the planet. The very fact that Israel shows constraint means they possess integrity. Not many have the luxury and fortitude of possessing huge power and be able to constrain or moderate that use of power. I guess it's something you Muslims will never experience.
Good day to you.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 1:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:15pm: abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:14pm: brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 8:44am: What part of the world did Jews originally come from? Where they lived thousands of years ago is Irrelevant. My ancestors in Germany 2000 years ago, doesn't mean I have a right to go and boot German families from their homes and make it my own... does it? What do you think should be done with Israeli Jews? Go back to their countries of origin, although those who seek asylum, and are cleared of crimes against the Palestinian people should be granted asylum.

I see, so you speak out against that sort of thing, but in the next breath call for the mass forced migration of Jews, many of whom have lived there for centuries?

Is Islam responsible for this astonishing level of hypocrisy?

I do not have Czech passport. Czech is nothing to do with me.
Look at the mass migration of muslims to country which is not theirs.

Why are you in a white country now?

Quote:

Come on fd, detailed this several times. Most of them came during the British occupation, and then they established a state of top of Palestine. All of this was illegal.

We 'went over it' which involved you making the claim that the immigration was illegal, then running away. Here is a thread where you can put forward the legal argument.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338682650

brumbie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 1:23pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:13pm: brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:57pm: It seems that falah is suggesting that as your ancestors came from germany you may very well be jewish somewhere down the line Abu.Interesting. I know you're not too quick on the uptake, but he didn't actually say "all Germans are Jews". He said Ashkenazi Jews are Germans. Think about it for a while, and you might get it. There's an old saying we often say to kids, about fingers and thumbs, that might help you visualise it. All thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs. But even if my ancestors were Jews, no problem for me. I have no problem with Jewish ethnicity, just with people who squat in other people's countries, and make them refugees.   I take it you are of Australian aboriginal descent then?

Your silence is deafening abu...if you are not of Australian aboriginal descent then perhaps you have a  problem with yourself as you have stated.

brumbie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 8:44am:

What part of the world did Jews originally come from?

Abraham [the father of the Jewish people] came from what is modern day Iraq.




Genesis 11:31
And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
32  And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Islam permits such hypocrisy. It is all about setting different standards for Muslims and non-Muslims. Even the non-Muslims get different standards applied to them by the Muslims based on how pagan they are.

Exactly so.


e.g.
Moslem men may pursue, seduce and convert, and thereby marry, non-moslem women.

But ISLAM states that non-moslem men may NOT marry, moslem women.

Which is the motivation for many 'honour' killings.

"Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe:....."
Koran 2.221



The term 'honour' killing is a misnomer.

'Honour' killings are about apostasy, and the killing of apostates [i.e. those moslems who 'turn' and decide to reject ISLAM's authority], NOT about 'honour'.



'Honour' killings in Western nations should be reported for what they are, the murder of moslem apostates [by members of the moslem community].

Which within ISLAMIC law, is a fully 'lawful' killing.


The Hadith,
"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 1:32pm:

I see, so you speak out against that sort of thing, but in the next breath call for the mass forced migration of Jews, many of whom have lived there for centuries?

Lived there for centuries? What have you been smoking fd?

Please provide some evidence to show that "many" of them have lived there for centuries.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Why are you in a white country now?

Ummm... because I'm white?  ;D

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 1:52pm:

Quote: Come on fd, detailed this several times. Most of them came during the British occupation, and then they established a state of top of Palestine. All of this was illegal. We 'went over it' which involved you making the claim that the immigration was illegal, then running away. Here is a thread where you can put forward the legal argument. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338682650

fd, it's a well known historical fact that the vast majority of Zionists who entered Palestine, did so illegally, and setup a state there through a process of deceit and violence.

The fact you're unfamilar with this, just highlights how poorly read you are on the topic.

Here's a few sources for you to begin with:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:E2YjVw-ob4wJ:www.turkishstudies.net/sayilar/sayi7/16%2520BATMAZ%2520%25C5%259Eakir.pdf+&hl=en&gl=au&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiZiNFJpJcOxU8KQKQv09oaAfsrYz4uR57A3x6qnBNv-fE8ym0k5kD_pkqHTxmmYcnPbmG34xvKhGNhtJqwMxp3Yb9aEvp38PtvJrqw02Ljx2vvKO07HoIWk64Zu-d8esi2gm-X&sig=AHIEtbSeZ7e1WyqWnkGi4PiE-KWz93vbtg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah_Bet

http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/judentum-aktenlage/migration/EncJud_migration04-illegal-immigration-to-Palestine-and-Cypurs-115,000-ENGL.html

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:32pm: I see, so you speak out against that sort of thing, but in the next breath call for the mass forced migration of Jews, many of whom have lived there for centuries? Lived there for centuries? What have you been smoking fd? Please provide some evidence to show that "many" of them have lived there for centuries.

Would it make any difference to you how many had lived there or for how long? Or would you still force a mass migration of the local Jews? Just like Muhammed did.

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 9:38pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 8:57pm: freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:32pm: I see, so you speak out against that sort of thing, but in the next breath call for the mass forced migration of Jews, many of whom have lived there for centuries? Lived there for centuries? What have you been smoking fd? Please provide some evidence to show that "many" of them have lived there for centuries. Would it make any difference to you how many had lived there or for how long? Or would you still force a mass migration of the Jewish people? Just like Muhammed did.

Is that your weasel way of conceding "you're right, I'm talking out of my rectum"?

No. I am pointing out that you trying to turn it into an argument about what percentage had lived there for however long is irrelevant because you would kick them all out anyway on account of them being Jews.


Quote:

fd, it's a well known historical fact that the vast majority of Zionists who entered Palestine, did so illegally, and setup a state there through a process of deceit and violence.

Yes Abu, that is the extent of 'going over it' we went through last time. Although at least this time you made a token effort of googling people who agree with you rather than just running away. Did you read any of those articles yourself?