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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:31pm

Title: raisan heads
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:31pm


Volume 1, Book 11, Number 662:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."

http://abdurrahman.org/sunnah/sahihBukhari/011.sbt.html

old raisan head huh. there's a way to make friends and influence people

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:45pm


Volume 1, Book 4, Number 162:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Whoever performs ablution should clean his nose with water by putting the water in it and then blowing it out, and whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do it with odd number of stones."


http://abdurrahman.org/sunnah/sahihBukhari/004.sbt.html


hey, do you do these things simultaneously ? while on a unicycle and chewing gum ?

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:50pm



Volume 1, Book 4, Number 173
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "If a dog drinks from the utensil of anyone of you it is essential to wash it seven times."



yep, not 6 or 8 times. 7.
What if I lose count ? Or a cat drinks from it ?

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:53pm




Volume 1, Book 4, Number 225
  Narrated Hudhaifa':

The Prophet and I walked till we reached the dumps of some people. He stood, as any one of you stands, behind a wall and urinated. I went away, but he beckoned me to come. So I approached him and stood near his back till he finished.


the word "exhibitionist" comes to mind.

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:55pm


Volume 1, Book 4, Number 233:

Narrated 'Aisha:

I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them


TMI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
was this before she played with her dolls ?

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by adamant on Jun 8th, 2012 at 11:39pm
Yeh Sprinty I think we should all read Sahih Al Bukhari, a book deemed second only to the Quran in Islam. We could learn the lustful, debauched, decadent and pagan ways of the true faith.


As I have recently found out that Falah is a teacher, do you think he would help/guide us in this spiritual quest for salvation?

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by falah on Jun 8th, 2012 at 11:57pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:31pm:
Volume 1, Book 11, Number 662:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."

http://abdurrahman.org/sunnah/sahihBukhari/011.sbt.html

old raisan head huh. there's a way to make friends and influence people




This is not description of black people in general, and it was dishonest of you to imply such on the other thread.

The message is that people should obey the leader of the Muslims.

Until the establishment of the Islamic state in Arabia, blacks had mostly been slaves, and had been on the bottom rung of Arab society's power structure.

Those newly liberated by Islam were in the lower socio-economic status due to their previously having been slaves.


The statement means "obey the leader even if he is from the lower socio-economic portion from society and is ugly"

This is a profound anti-racist message, unique in non-Black societies saying that a black man should be accepted as a leader.

In most other societies it is the rich and beautiful elites who rule. Islam teaches that it is not wealth and beauty that is important.

This is opposite of the message that US television teaches us with their emphasis on wealth and beauty.


Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by freediver on Jun 9th, 2012 at 10:16am

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The message is that people should obey the leader of the Muslims.


So the racial slur was completely unnecessary?


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In most other societies it is the rich and beautiful elites who rule.


So the Caliph is not rich under the Islamic system? What happens to all the war booty?

Do you think John Howard is beautiful? How about Julia Gillard?

Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by falah on Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:17pm

freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 10:16am:

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The message is that people should obey the leader of the Muslims.


So the racial slur was completely unnecessary?



It is not a racial slur. It is an anti-racist message. It is a message that says that black man can be leader of the Muslims.








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In most other societies it is the rich and beautiful elites who rule.


So the Caliph is not rich under the Islamic system?[/quote]

The Roshidoon Caliphs drew only a standard workers wage from the Islamic treasury. Their lifestyle was so humble that visitors to the Islamic capital could not distinguish the caliph from other people. There were no places for them, no fine clothes, and no bodyguards. When the second caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab, arrived in Jerusalem to sign a peace treaty the inhabitants mistook Umar's servant as the Caliph because Umar was so humbly dressed.

Umar war a garment so old that it had fourteen patches - some made from animal hide.

Umar disliked displays of pride and wealth. On his way to Jerusalem Umar encountered a group the Muslims wearing silk garments. He ordered dust to be thrown in their faces and their garments to be tom off. He then proceeded till he, reached Jerusalem.

Then he went on and was met by the tribes, chiefs and others till he rested in the place where Abu 'Ubaidah had once camped. A woolen tent was pitched for him, wherein he sat on the dusty ground, then stood and prayed...


The man who ruled nearly the entire middle east, lived in tiny house made of rocks, wore old clothes, wore no silk or gold, had no bodyguards, and drew only the wages of a commoner from the treasury.

Islamic state under the 2nd Roshidoon Caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab:




freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 10:16am:
Do you think John Howard is beautiful? How about Julia Gillard?


Wasn't it Joe hockey complaining that he wouldn't be Prime minister because he looks like Shrek?





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Discrimination By Appearance -
The Ugly Truth, And It's Not Pretty


"The research makes it very clear that ... people who are better looking earn somewhat more than your average person and people who are worse looking earn less," said Professor Hamermesh, who is visiting Melbourne University's Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research and tomorrow will give a public lecture on The Economics of Beauty.

The chief executive of Victoria's Equal Opportunity Commission, Diane Sisely, said he was probably, regrettably, right. The commission fielded a flood of complaints - 130, in all - in 1999-2000 from people who believed they had been discriminated against because of their physical appearance. "It's very entrenched in our community and it's very unfair," she said.

Professor Hamermesh's studies suggest people in the top 30 per cent in the looks department can expect to earn between 3 and 5 per cent more than people in the middle 60 per cent. And people in the bottom 10 per cent, whom he described as "pretty ugly people", earn up to 10 per cent less.

"We are programmed almost from birth to think about looks ... If it's not your customers, it's the fellow employees who are revolted by working with an incredibly ugly person," he said...

http://www.rense.com/general12/notp.htm




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'Uglyism' more widespread than sexism, racism, study finds

A new study sheds light on "our most invisible prejudice" as a society: Uglyism.

Coined by a Canadian sociologist, "uglyism" describes the subtle but widespread discrimination experienced by people whose appearances lie south of the beauty equator mapped out by art, literature and film.

"We don't realize the level of discrimination that we exercise against people who are less attractive than the norm," says Anthony Synnott, a professor at Concordia University in Montreal.

"In a sense, it's very visible; we're judging people by their appearance all the time. But the prejudice about it is invisible because we aren't aware we're doing it."

Those affected, however, can be devastatingly conscious of the negative bias. Indeed, growing up with a facial deformity caused by Crouzon's Syndrome, Barry Strader says people's ill-ease with him had a "glaring clarity."

"The reality is that because I look different, too often decisions have been made (about) me with finger-snap finality in the initial moment of meeting," says Strader, who has had 11 operations in order to get to a place where he feels "normal."

While the Toronto man recognizes that his worth isn't tied up in "the jagged facial bones, the uneven eyes or the underdeveloped jaw," showing people his inner beauty requires that they first give him that chance.

"I have to work harder to make people see who I am," says Strader, whose quick wit and depth of character are regrettably "not apparent in the first quick glance or a passing stare."

The annals of sociology have seen countless studies on beauty, but Synnott says those on the flip side of the genetic lottery are just starting to get their academic due. His paper on uglyism, published this month in the interdisciplinary journal Glimpse, is one of a growing number that examine the causes and consequences of discrimination based on physical appearance -- a form of prejudice he suggests is more pervasive today than either sexism or racism.

"You get that halo effect kicking in where people imbue positive values to you if you're attractive, and the horns effect -- which imbues negative values -- if you're not attractive," says Synnott. "This affects your chances, both personal and professional, throughout your life."

In casting the title role of Ugly Betty, for instance, TV executives didn't hire an eyesore but rather attached bushy eyebrows and braces to America Ferrera, an actress named one of the "100 most beautiful" celebrities in the world by People magazine...

Synnott believes this "fear of ugliness" is what's helped propel the cosmetic surgery industry, which has seen the number of procedures performed annually climb nearly 60 per cent since 2000.

It's also part of the reason researchers have identified such social phenomena as the "plainness penalty," which finds that unattractive people in the labour market earn five to 10 per cent less than their attractive counterparts...

"Beauty arouses in us positive feelings of happiness, well-being, satisfaction, joy," says Rebecca Sullivan, an associate professor at the University of Calgary.

"If you pass by someone who's unattractive, they don't evoke these feelings and may even evoke negative feelings..."
http://www2.canada.com/topics/lifestyle/style/story.html?id=f459060d-8560-455d-84b9-3c9298b9a1ec



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Is Image Discrimination The 'new Racism'? .


http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=O8E8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=JC4MAAAAIBAJ&pg=1169,2983474&dq=discrimination+beauty+ugly&hl=en





Title: Re: raisan heads
Post by freediver on Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:26pm
Ah, so you do think John Howard is sexy?

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