Well its a controversial topic. It was in the news in NT a while back and now its in SA. Apparently Gillard has quashed SAs bid to have it established.

What do the ppl in this forum think about euthanasia? Volunteer or otherwise?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/parliament-kills-off-euthanasia-laws/story-e6frea83-1226395772400


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PARLIAMENT has killed off the latest push to introduce euthanasia laws in South Australia in a narrow vote today. PREMIER Jay Weatherill has backed a failed bid to introduce new euthanasia laws in South Australia. They were struck down by conservative Liberals and key  members of Labor's Right faction in State Parliament yesterday. Independent MP Bob Such said his proposal - which would only apply to people suffering from a terminal illness and where pain could not be relieved - had all the possible safeguards. It was thrown out 22-20 in a conscience vote. Five MPs - including Opposition Leader Isobel Redmond - did not vote. Mr Weatherill, the leader of Labor's minority Left faction, has previously declared his support for the introduction of euthanasia and was joined by senior ministers Pat Conlon and Paul Caica in backing the proposal. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Do you support euthanasia? Do you support euthanasia? Yes No Unsure End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. Influential members of Labor's Right faction, including Mineral Resources and Energy Minister Tom Koutsantonis, Treasurer Jack Snelling and back-bencher Michael Atkinson voted against. Community Christian groups launched a heavy lobbying campaign to galvanise MPs' opposition to change. Yesterday's vote is the second major blow for euthanasia campaigners in  less than a year, follow- ing the collapse in support for  new legislation giving doctors a legal defence if they hasten death by providing pain-killing drugs. That plan had the backing of Health and Ageing Minister John Hill but was attacked by the Law Society and Australian Medical Association. It also led euthanasia campaigner Phillip Nitschke to scout out possible locations for an Adelaide clinic. Following yesterday's euthanasia vote, Dr Such said he intended to "re-jig" the proposal and try again. "It's a significant step forward to get that close in a vote," he told The Advertiser. "Slavery wasn't abolished overnight and women didn't get the vote overnight. Big changes take time, but the Parliament will eventually catch up with the views of the broader community." Liberals supporting change included frontbenchers Steven Marshall, John Gardner and Duncan McFetridge. Liberals voting against euthanasia included Deputy Opposition Leader Mitch Williams.

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I think that what someone thinks no matter how precious they act should not influence or affect the way another lives their lives or treats their own body.
Euthanasia is the choice of the person in question and that person alone.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:30pm:

I think that what someone thinks no matter how precious they act should not influence or affect the way another lives their lives or treats their own body. Euthanasia is the choice of the person in question and that person alone.

Its not though is it. And did you know that the penalty for attempted suicide in QLD is "life"?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 1:30pm: I think that what someone thinks no matter how precious they act should not influence or affect the way another lives their lives or treats their own body. Euthanasia is the choice of the person in question and that person alone. Its not though is it. And did you know that the penalty for attempted suicide in QLD is "life"? SOB

No which really destroys the idea of freedom dont it.
That is hilarious, obviously the max but I wonder if anyone has ever received anything close to that?

Personally I find it a lot more inhumane to have a culture which pushes dying people to squeeze every last day of life left out while living in pain or taking dangerous drugs and undergoing crap therapy of various descriptions.

I think that you either legalise euthanasia or legalise pot.
A lot of people considering euthanasia would probably opt for smoking pot instead.

This is about economics, not freedom, its about greed and inhumanity, not care and compassion, its about creating a sterile inhumane corrupt socialist society devoid of warmth and so I say no to this and no to socialism, no to banning school kids hugging and no to forcing families to become a mobile workforce for the Mafia.  Get out of our lives.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

It was in the news in NT a while back and now its in SA.

I'd imagine that euthanasia would be an attractive option for people in the NT and SA.

Organized crime has a perverted view on what freedom is, they should be taken with a grain of salt - freedom for them is the right to rape babies without consequences.

That was a joke about the "life: but they do lock you away for various amounts of time and they medicate you too. Just in a "mental institution" instead of a jail. This is worse btw. in a mental institution you dont get your own room - you dont get a tv - you dont get smokes - you dont get anything that prisoners get. you would be better off in jail. Just make sure you dont fail when you attempt suicide I guess.

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corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

Organized crime has a perverted view on what freedom is, they should be taken with a grain of salt - freedom for them is the right to rape babies without consequences.

Freedom for one but not for all

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

What do the ppl in this forum think about euthanasia? Volunteer or otherwise? SOB

It should be applied without delay and it should only be applied to politicians both serving and retired. Those who have been sent bankrupt or who have had their lives ruined by the useless turds known as politicians should be allowed to inject the lethal dose into the bags of crap known as politicians.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 1:30pm: I think that what someone thinks no matter how precious they act should not influence or affect the way another lives their lives or treats their own body. Euthanasia is the choice of the person in question and that person alone. Its not though is it. And did you know that the penalty for attempted suicide in QLD is "life"? SOB

no it isnt you dimwit. do you ever get anythign right? those kinds of laws were removed many decades ago - back when you were already elderly.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 1:32pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 1:30pm: I think that what someone thinks no matter how precious they act should not influence or affect the way another lives their lives or treats their own body. Euthanasia is the choice of the person in question and that person alone. Its not though is it. And did you know that the penalty for attempted suicide in QLD is "life"? SOB no it isnt you dimwit. do you ever get anythign right? those kinds of laws were removed many decades ago - back when you were already elderly.

hahahahhahaha you really are stupid arent you. It is obviously a joke. I even said it was a joke. in fact it is a funny joke.

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bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:33pm:

Personally I find it a lot more inhumane to have a culture which pushes dying people to squeeze every last day of life left out while living in pain or taking dangerous drugs and undergoing crap therapy of various descriptions. I think that you either legalise euthanasia or legalise pot. A lot of people considering euthanasia would probably opt for smoking pot instead.

Euthanasia exists and is done on a routine basis every day in hospitals right across the nation. Having seen it, I can tell you that you don't want to be in a situation where it's discussed as an option for you. I think to make it legal sooner would be merciful for those involved. As part of that, any drugs (legal or not) that would ease suffering should also be allowed.

You trust organized crime with Euthanasia?

THere is nothing stoping anyone from getting a rope and hanging one self, as long as you dont do it in front of or tell anyone. but thousands of people bump them selfs off every day without any law allowing them too, so as far as i can see there is no need to change the laws

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

THere is nothing stoping anyone from getting a rope and hanging one self, as long as you dont do it in front of or tell anyone. but thousands of people bump them selfs off every day without any law allowing them too, so as far as i can see there is no need to change the laws

Well the controversy is mainly about sick ppl in hospital that are being kept alive in great pain who want to die but arent allowed to.

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A flat no from me because the advocates are simply addicted to death and use peoples suffering and misery as propaganda to achieve their aims of legalized economic killing for their sterile, socialist human farm paradise., They also want to stop children from hugging in schools and turn us into a transient mobile workforce by destroying our communities.

How about we bring in mandatory euthanasia for anyone who thinks god is talking to them?

SOB

Here is why we should reject Euthanasia - wake up to the danger and the corruption and evil of its advocates, who hate our democracy and freedom.

Wake up - there is no such thing as voluntary euthanasia - there never has been, organized crime wants to economically kill people - that is all.  They cruelly use peoples suffering to achieve their aims.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:19pm:

Wake up - there is no such thing as voluntary euthanasia - there never has been, organized crime wants to economically kill people - that is all.  They cruelly use peoples suffering to achieve their aims.

Dont you think that not letting them die when they want is cruel?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 6:13am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 7:19pm: Wake up - there is no such thing as voluntary euthanasia - there never has been, organized crime wants to economically kill people - that is all.  They cruelly use peoples suffering to achieve their aims. Dont you think that not letting them die when they want is cruel? SOB

1 nobody stops anyone from dying, we all die.
2, you are obsessed with death for transparently wicked, selfish, greedy reasons.
3. you wish to push this major social issue through without giving the people the final say through a referendum.
4.  this is politically driven, not an issue pushed by the community.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 7:00am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 6:13am: corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 7:19pm: Wake up - there is no such thing as voluntary euthanasia - there never has been, organized crime wants to economically kill people - that is all.  They cruelly use peoples suffering to achieve their aims. Dont you think that not letting them die when they want is cruel? SOB 1 nobody stops anyone from dying, we all die. 2, you are obsessed with death for transparently wicked, selfish, greedy reasons. 3. you wish to push this major social issue through without giving the people the final say through a referendum. 4.  this is politically driven, not an issue pushed by the community.

Its not me doing these things mate.

Isnt it being put to a referendum? I guess they are a thing of the past huh. So much for "democracy".

I disagree about it being politically driven though. There are ppl with illness that are kept alive in palliative care wards that dont want to be. Of course there is the problem that if it was legal it would be misused.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 7:24am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 7:00am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 6:13am: corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 7:19pm: Wake up - there is no such thing as voluntary euthanasia - there never has been, organized crime wants to economically kill people - that is all.  They cruelly use peoples suffering to achieve their aims. Dont you think that not letting them die when they want is cruel? SOB 1 nobody stops anyone from dying, we all die. 2, you are obsessed with death for transparently wicked, selfish, greedy reasons. 3. you wish to push this major social issue through without giving the people the final say through a referendum. 4.  this is politically driven, not an issue pushed by the community. Its not me doing these things mate. Isnt it being put to a referendum? I guess they are a thing of the past huh. So much for "democracy". I disagree about it being politically driven though. There are ppl with illness that are kept alive in palliative care wards that dont want to be. Of course there is the problem that if it was legal it would be misused. SOB

it makes me sick that politicians use peoples vulnerabilities to push through change with transparently evil motives.