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People smuggling 101 on web: Morrison     by: LAUREN WILSON     From: The Australian     June 15, 2012 12:39PM     Increase Text Size     Decrease Text Size     Print THE Opposition has attacked a new government website that provides information to asylum seeker boat arrivals, labelling it an online 'welcome advertisement' for people smugglers. The Coalition's immigration spokesman Scott Morrison has ridiculed the website, which went live this morning, saying it could just as well be called "captainemad.com" after the alleged Iraqi people smuggling kingpin who was granted refugee protection in Australia. The website outlines the processes that boat arrivals will be subject to whilst their claims for protection are being assessed, including initial health and security checks and review processes. But Mr Morrison said the website showed just how far the government was out of step with the Australian people on the matter. "It shows them (boat arrivals) how they can access the protection system, it shows them what entitlements they will have entitlements to taxpayer funded legal advice, migration experts, their appeal rights through the courts." "It is basically an open invitation to come on down and try your luck," Mr Morrison said. "You can effectively call this captainemad.com." But Immigration Minister Chris Bowen's office defended the website, saying whilst Mr Morrison was happy for asylum seekers to get "myths" from people smugglers the government was putting out the facts. "This information is not new and has always been publicly available on the Immigration website," Mr Bowen's spokesman said. "It's important to counter the false promises people smugglers are peddling to get asylum seekers on boats." The spokesman said if Tony Abbott and Mr Morrison really wanted to stop the boats they would support the government's legislation for offshore processing. Last month saw the highest number of boat arrivals to reach Australia since August 2001, the month of the Tampa incident. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/people-smuggling-101-on-web-morrison/story-fn59niix-1226396597953

The only thing missing is a list of contact numbers for people smugglers.

Australia provides protection to refugees and people at risk of significant harm.

This website contains general information for you if you arrived in Australia by boat without a visa.

http://www.immi.gov.au/ima/




Yawn.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

Australia provides protection to refugees and people at risk of significant harm. Yawn.

Like this bloke?


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THE federal government will tell alleged people smuggling kingpin Captain Emad it is considering cancelling his visa if he returns to Australia. Emad fled overseas last week a day after the ABC's Four Corners program outed him as a people smuggler. http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/govt-considers-emad-visa-cancellation/story-e6frfku0-1226396880672

What harm did the good captain flee from? Perhaps his business competitors in the perfume trade threatened him with lower prices.

Yawn. Yawn.

salad in wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 4:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 1:51pm: Australia provides protection to refugees and people at risk of significant harm. Yawn. Like this bloke? Quote: THE federal government will tell alleged people smuggling kingpin Captain Emad it is considering cancelling his visa if he returns to Australia. Emad fled overseas last week a day after the ABC's Four Corners program outed him as a people smuggler. http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/govt-considers-emad-visa-cancellation/story-e6frfku0-1226396880672 What harm did the good captain flee from? Perhaps his business competitors in the perfume trade threatened him with lower prices. Yawn. Yawn.

Oh, of course!

What brilliant logic: he was involved in criminal activity, therefore all asylum seekers must be criminals.

Genius!

You need to close your border and let no refugee in until you resolve this crisis.
I have worked in border control. It is not hard you just make it clear that they are not coming in

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:

You need to close your border and let no refugee in until you resolve this crisis. I have worked in border control. It is not hard you just make it clear that they are not coming in

lololololololol

SOB

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:

You need to close your border and let no refugee in until you resolve this crisis. I have worked in border control. It is not hard you just make it clear that they are not coming in

"Crisis"?  What crisis are you talking about?

The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia.
In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees.

Israel isnt very good with compassion though is it.

SOB

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia.

There is no such crisis.  You have been misinformed.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees.

Yes. Israel creates refugees. Other people then have to deal with them. This information is a few years old:

Host country      Ratio of refugee population to total population      Number of refugees
West Bank + Gaza      1:2      1'739'000
Jordan      1:6      862'700
Lebanon      1:13      294'200
Syria      1:15      1'329'300
Chad      1:35      286'800
Congo (DRC)      1:62      60'000
Ecuador      1:64      207'500
Iran      1:69      1'025'000
Cyprus      1:75      13'400
Pakistan      1:77      2'161'500
Tanzania      1:78      485'700
Saudi Arabia      1:100      241'100

Source: http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/stats-01.html

Every second person on the West Bank is a refugee. Australia's numbers are even a pimple in comparison.

Like I've said before, when we want to know how to get all our neighbours to bomb us, rest assured we'll come ask for your guidance. Until then...

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:29pm: The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. There is no such crisis.  You have been misinformed.

I am in Australia this year I can see with my own eyes your population mix.
You have a lot of people I can see in sydney from these places.

Often too I can hear Iraqis speak on the bus.

Gist wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:29pm: The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees. Yes. Israel creates refugees. Other people then have to deal with them. This information is a few years old: Host country      Ratio of refugee population to total population      Number of refugees West Bank + Gaza      1:2      1'739'000 Jordan      1:6      862'700 Lebanon      1:13      294'200 Syria      1:15      1'329'300 Chad      1:35      286'800 Congo (DRC)      1:62      60'000 Ecuador      1:64      207'500 Iran      1:69      1'025'000 Cyprus      1:75      13'400 Pakistan      1:77      2'161'500 Tanzania      1:78      485'700 Saudi Arabia      1:100      241'100 Source: http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/stats-01.html Every second person on the West Bank is a refugee. Australia's numbers are even a pimple in comparison. Like I've said before, when we want to know how to get all our neighbours to bomb us, rest assured we'll come ask for your guidance. Until then...

Don't be stupid.
West Bank is stupid comparison you know that.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:44pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:29pm: The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. There is no such crisis.  You have been misinformed. I am in Australia this year I can see with my own eyes your population mix. You have a lot of people I can see in sydney from these places. Often too I can hear Iraqis speak on the bus.

And?  Do you have a point?

How is that a crisis?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:52pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:49pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:29pm: The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees. Yes. Israel creates refugees. Other people then have to deal with them. This information is a few years old: Host country      Ratio of refugee population to total population      Number of refugees West Bank + Gaza      1:2      1'739'000 Jordan      1:6      862'700 Lebanon      1:13      294'200 Syria      1:15      1'329'300 Chad      1:35      286'800 Congo (DRC)      1:62      60'000 Ecuador      1:64      207'500 Iran      1:69      1'025'000 Cyprus      1:75      13'400 Pakistan      1:77      2'161'500 Tanzania      1:78      485'700 Saudi Arabia      1:100      241'100 Source: http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/stats-01.html Every second person on the West Bank is a refugee. Australia's numbers are even a pimple in comparison. Like I've said before, when we want to know how to get all our neighbours to bomb us, rest assured we'll come ask for your guidance. Until then... Don't be stupid. West Bank is stupid comparison you know that.

Hey, you're the one comparing Australia and Israel not me. But if that's what you really want to do...

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:44pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:29pm: The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. There is no such crisis.  You have been misinformed. I am in Australia this year I can see with my own eyes your population mix. You have a lot of people I can see in sydney from these places. Often too I can hear Iraqis speak on the bus.

So do you just assume that because they don't look like typical blond haired blue eyed Aussies, they must be refugees ? laughable especially considering your a stupid isreali here legally ... do you think that your the only one australia would allow in ... why would they let anyone else in when Avram is already here .....

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 6:52pm:

Gist wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:49pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 6:29pm: The crisis of lots of undesired refugees coming to Australia. In Israel we limit non jew people allowed to come for refugees. Yes. Israel creates refugees. Other people then have to deal with them. This information is a few years old: Host country      Ratio of refugee population to total population      Number of refugees West Bank + Gaza      1:2      1'739'000 Jordan      1:6      862'700 Lebanon      1:13      294'200 Syria      1:15      1'329'300 Chad      1:35      286'800 Congo (DRC)      1:62      60'000 Ecuador      1:64      207'500 Iran      1:69      1'025'000 Cyprus      1:75      13'400 Pakistan      1:77      2'161'500 Tanzania      1:78      485'700 Saudi Arabia      1:100      241'100 Source: http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/stats-01.html Every second person on the West Bank is a refugee. Australia's numbers are even a pimple in comparison. Like I've said before, when we want to know how to get all our neighbours to bomb us, rest assured we'll come ask for your guidance. Until then... Don't be stupid. West Bank is stupid comparison you know that.

yeah Gist ... its a stupid comparison, now choose somewhere else where the figures don't show how full of poo Avram is  ....

West bank is not a country. It is disputed territory not recognised by UN.
You think that is sensible to compare? Stupid.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

West bank is not a country. It is disputed territory not recognised by UN. You think that is sensible to compare? Stupid.

So nobody lives there? The people that do don't have to deal with the refugees YOU create? You can ignore the problem because it is a "disputed territory"?

OK, fine with me. No sweat. We'll ignore Gaza too lest our little student of stupidity finds some other irrelevancy.

So... as I was saying... JORDAN... one in six people is a refugee. Australia's "crisis" is a pimple in comparison.

But why do you care about Jordan?
I don't and they are our neighbour.

Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem?

You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice.
You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc.

I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you.

My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

Have you thought if you were more hard in your rules then they would not come?
Think. Why do they not stay in Asia?
Because they are not as soft as you.

In Israel we would never give like you. We are sending back our non jew undesireds.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

But why do you care about Jordan? I don't and they are our neighbour. Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem? You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice. You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc. I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you. My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

I could tell you the same thing stupid ..... you have enough problems to worry about .. the guilt from murdering all those women and children must weight heavilly ... leave Australias refugee problem to Australia and worry about your own ....

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

But why do you care about Jordan? I don't and they are our neighbour. Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem? You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice. You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc. I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you. My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw!

So which part of that is your problem?

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 7:31pm: But why do you care about Jordan? I don't and they are our neighbour. Care about your own refugee problem and leave every one else to their own problem? You know your problem? I see this in immigration centre in Sydney,. You are much too nice. You give these people money homes and they can ride the bus free etc. I cannot believe you spend so much on these people who do nothing good for you. My friend and I, we both Tel Aviv people, we were unbelieving of what we saw! I could tell you the same thing stupid ..... you have enough problems to worry about .. the guilt from murdering all those women and children must weight heavilly ... leave Australias refugee problem to Australia and worry about your own ....

I am in Australia now this year.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:34pm:

Have you thought if you were more hard in your rules then they would not come? Think. Why do they not stay in Asia? Because they are not as soft as you. In Israel we would never give like you. We are sending back our non jew undesireds.

And you get bombs in return.

Go! Live in Israel. Get bombed. See if I care. You created the problem, you live with it. If I wanted to live like fools like you I'd go live in Israel. But I don't!

You know Avram, maybe I'm going about it all wrong. It occurs to me that I should listen very closely to your advice about what we should NOT do. And then I should make sure we do EXACTLY that.

"We should make more refugee centres because Avram said not to."

I like it. I'll call it the Avram Axiom.  ;D

But you support migrants and refugees don't you?
Why? Are you one?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 7:49pm:

But you support migrants and refugees don't you? Why? Are you one?

I'm not sure. Tell what I shouldn't support...

refugees should go to their own kind of country. why do asians want to go to australia? if australians had to run away from australia they would go to china or arab countries. they would go to a place that is more like australia. so why dont the chinese and arabs go to their own type of places?

Bertram wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:28pm:

refugees should go to their own kind of country. why do asians want to go to australia? if australians had to run away from australia they would go to china or arab countries. they would go to a place that is more like australia. so why dont the chinese and arabs go to their own type of places?

Yes the Asian run to? that's right australia an Asian country, DER!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Really this is such a stupid argument and i do mean stupid with all the demeaning and politically incorrect contradictions. They come here because we offer the best chance of a better life. They come here because this land of opportunity not only supports them but it supports their chance too pay for their family to be smuggled here too.

Do you really want to destroy these peoples hope for a better life and a future filled with possibility for their children and loved ones? then stop your pathetic whinging and vote for the Malaysian solution which is no less cruel or inhumane than the Pacific solution, it just belongs to a different group of Bigots.

nairbe wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 9:38pm:

Bertram wrote on Jun 15th, 2012 at 8:28pm: refugees should go to their own kind of country. why do asians want to go to australia? if australians had to run away from australia they would go to china or arab countries. they would go to a place that is more like australia. so why dont the chinese and arabs go to their own type of places? Yes the Asian run to? that's right australia an Asian country, DER!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Really this is such a stupid argument and i do mean stupid with all the demeaning and politically incorrect contradictions. They come here because we offer the best chance of a better life. They come here because this land of opportunity not only supports them but it supports their chance too pay for their family to be smuggled here too. Do you really want to destroy these peoples hope for a better life and a future filled with possibility for their children and loved ones? then stop your pathetic whinging and vote for the Malaysian solution which is no less cruel or inhumane than the Pacific solution, it just belongs to a different group of Bigots.

They dont all come here. Some go to UK and NZ and other countries. They go wherever they can.

Israel obviously will not show any compassion so should be shown none.

We accept immigrants and other countries accept australian immigrants.

SOB