Russia has moved ground forces and naval fleets into Syria to defend her, assuming they would have air force in as well.

The West is slowly progressing to a full blown invasion...

What do you think will happen?



Here are the links for a little idea of what Russia is doing, I am sure I do not need to supply links to tell you what the west is planing:

EXTRAORDINARY: Strong Russian ground forces moved in Syria
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defencenet.gr%2Fdefence%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D44901%26Itemid%3D139

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Another international exclusivity defencenet.gr confirmed: Sources told the Pentagon to the satellite television network NBC confirmed what we first broadcast on February 19, 2012: Russia has already sent special operations units to Syria for safekeeping of the naval base in Tartus , the only Russian naval base in the Mediterranean, but the array technologies and air defense systems S-300PMU2, the onshore missile battery P-800 Yakhont and Pantsir S1, but now things are even more severe. Apart from the 431 Battalion of the VMF force which had been conveyed originally, now sending aid and the 76th airborne division «Pskov», the 15th brigade of ground forces based in Samara, but also special forces military intelligence agency GRU with executives who have experience from the front of Chechnya and will be directly involved in antiantartiko race. It sends the message that Russia is very strong and clear "the ball" is on the western side. The United States alleged to have completed the executive planning and be prepared for various scenarios of air action on Syrian soil, but mainly to rush to the aid of friendly neighboring countries of Syria, namely Turkey, Jordan and Israel.

Russian navy in Syria: Thorn in US side
http://www.rt.com/news/russian-syria-opposition-usa-319/



Things have been brewing for quite some time. Could this be the ignition?

the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:

the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB

Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now.
Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen.

Arh, classic lefty logic.
If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:16pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else.

No that's international law logic.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic.

Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:27pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way.

To see law another way?
What do you mean?
Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:01pm:

The West is slowly progressing to a full blown invasion... What do you think will happen? I am sure I do not need to supply links to tell you what the west is planing:

You should supply links from credible sources to support your nutjob theory.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war.

So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:01pm: The West is slowly progressing to a full blown invasion... What do you think will happen? I am sure I do not need to supply links to tell you what the west is planing: You should supply links from credible sources to support your nutjob theory.

Hahahaha yeah its so crazy isn't it.
Time will tell I guess.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war. So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame?

?????? The west is the one invading.

US enlists Britain's help to stop ship 'carrying Russian attack helicopters' to Syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9336170/US-enlists-Britains-help-to-stop-ship-carrying-Russian-attack-helicopters-to-Syria.html

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The MV Alaed, a Russian-operated cargo vessel, is currently thought to be sailing through the North Sea after allegedly picking up a consignment of munitions and MI25 helicopters - known as "flying tanks" - from the Russian Baltic port of Kaliningrad. Washington, which last week condemned Moscow for continuing to arm the Syrian regime, has asked British officials to help stop the Alaed delivering its alleged cargo by using sanctions legislation to force its London-based insurer to withdraw its cover.

Haha only the US is allowed to supply arms dont you know.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war. So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame? ?????? The west is the one invading.

You said it's 'international law logic' that the West is to blame for all invasions.

weirdo "logic"

SOB

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Wish i could put that in my sig

sOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:34pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war. So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame? ?????? The west is the one invading. You said it's 'international law logic' that the West is to blame for all invasions.

Clearly that is not what I said, try again.
Or perhaps actually respond to the thread.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

Wish i could put that in my sig sOB

Same.
I love also how they focus on the tiniest part of the thread for about 10 posts, something that has nothing to do with the actual point.
Its like arguing with a child or something.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:44pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:40pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:34pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war. So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame? ?????? The west is the one invading. You said it's 'international law logic' that the West is to blame for all invasions. Clearly that is not what I said, try again. Or perhaps actually respond to the thread.

You did state it. Don't lie.


It's funny how you lefties complain about human rights abuses when the USA or some other Western nation does it, but when Syria or some other non-Western country does it, you are silent. Moreover, you even support the human rights abuses.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:39pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:40pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:34pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war. So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame? ?????? The west is the one invading. You said it's 'international law logic' that the West is to blame for all invasions. Clearly that is not what I said, try again. Or perhaps actually respond to the thread. You did state it. Don't lie. It's funny how you lefties complain about human rights abuses when the USA or some other Western nation does it, but when Syria or some other non-Western country does it, you are silent. Moreover, you even support the human rights abuses.

I havent seen that? What human rights abuses are you talking about? Has anyone here "supported" the crap in syria? What human rights abuses are supported by anyone here? Well except for the xtians and jews supporting israels human rights abuses.

These government just decide to have wars without asking any of the ppl in the so-called "democracies".

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 1:39pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:40pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:34pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:33pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:28pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:17pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Arh, classic lefty logic. If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. No that's international law logic. Of course it is, for you. You're not intellectually equipped to see it any other way. To see law another way? What do you mean? Its clean cut that if you invade a country you are starting a war. So any time any country invades another country the West is to blame? ?????? The west is the one invading. You said it's 'international law logic' that the West is to blame for all invasions. Clearly that is not what I said, try again. Or perhaps actually respond to the thread. You did state it. Don't lie. It's funny how you lefties complain about human rights abuses when the USA or some other Western nation does it, but when Syria or some other non-Western country does it, you are silent. Moreover, you even support the human rights abuses. I havent seen that? What human rights abuses are you talking about? Has anyone here "supported" the crap in syria? What human rights abuses are supported by anyone here? Well except for the xtians and jews supporting israels human rights abuses. These government just decide to have wars without asking any of the ppl in the so-called "democracies". SOB

The Western nations are thinking about "invading" because the Syrian government are killing their own people. You and Puppet are more interested trying to blame the West for some supposed WW III rather than any concern for the Syrian people.

You are hypocrites. You don't hold non-Western states to the same standards as you do Western states.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 12:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen.

Here, Spot of Bog, anything that goes wrong is apparently the fault of the West.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 1:59pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Here, Spot of Bog, anything that goes wrong is apparently the fault of the West.

If the "west" does something they do it knowing the consequences.

SOB

Quote:

You are hypocrites. You don't hold non-Western states to the same standards as you do Western states.

What standards would these be?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:01pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 1:59pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:04pm: the sad (and possibly scary) thing is that all parties know the consequences of their actions SOB Seems the ball is in the west's side of the court right now. Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Here, Spot of Bog, anything that goes wrong is apparently the fault of the West. If the "west" does something they do it knowing the consequences. SOB

Of course they do, just like when Bashar Assad blows holes in his own people.
Oh that's right, it's all the West's fault, never anyone else's.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Quote: You are hypocrites. You don't hold non-Western states to the same standards as you do Western states. What standards would these be? SOB

I am not playing your game. I've seen your selective support for human rights over the forum.

Quote:

You did state it. Don't lie.

No I didn't.


Quote:

It's funny how you lefties complain about human rights abuses when the USA or some other Western nation does it, but when Syria or some other non-Western country does it, you are silent. Moreover, you even support the human rights abuses.

I will complain when I actually know what is happening in Syria.


Quote:

The Western nations are thinking about "invading" because the Syrian government are killing their own people. You and Puppet are more interesting trying to blame the West for some supposed WW III rather than any concern for the Syrian people. You are hypocrites. You don't hold non-Western states to the same standards as you do Western states.

There is no real evidence to show that this is the case. If the west was to invade that is an act of war against Syria and its allies.
You are a hypocrite.


Quote:

Here, Spot of Bog, anything that goes wrong is apparently the fault of the West.

Once again that is not even close to what I said.
If I was so wrong you wouldn't have to make up things that I have not said.

Really shows how pathetic you are that you cannot even have discussion without making up crap and completely changing the subject.


Quote:

am not playing your game. I've seen your selective support for human rights over the forum.

You are the only one playing a game obviously.
Your side is the only one who makes selective support for human rights abuses.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:02pm: Quote: You are hypocrites. You don't hold non-Western states to the same standards as you do Western states. What standards would these be? SOB I am not playing your game. I've seen your selective support for human rights over the forum.

What human rights? You mean because i dont think the israelis should be treating the palestinian refugees like they are?

SOB

Quote:

There is no real evidence to show that this is the case. If the west was to invade that is an act of war against Syria and its allies.

Yeah. And iraq was an invasion too. And afganistan too really although they keep saying we are there to "help".

SOB

Quote:

political pussy wrote No I didn't.

Deny it all you like. Anyone can scroll back up see you did indeed state it.


Quote:

political pussy wrote I will complain when I actually know what is happening in Syria.

Huh? You just stated WW III may be beginning, now you don't know what's going on? Moreover, you had already blamed the West for it anyway. Don't be like Bog and go back on your word when it's plain for all to see.


Quote:

political pussy wrote There is no real evidence to show that this is the case. If the west was to invade that is an act of war against Syria and its allies. You are a hypocrite.

I see. So evidence suggesting human rights abuses by Syrians is false, but evidence suggesting American human rights abuses is true. Lefty logic to the core.


Quote:

political pussy wrote Once again that is not even close to what I said. If I was so wrong you wouldn't have to make up things that I have not said. Really shows how pathetic you are that you cannot even have discussion without making up crap and completely changing the subject.

You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.


Quote:

political pussy wrote You are the only one playing a game obviously. Your side is the only one who makes selective support for human rights abuses.

You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

Everyone here knows that:

Quote:

Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen.

Does not equal:

Quote:

If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else.

Even if they do not care to admit it.

You are grasping at straws that do not exist.


Quote:

Huh? You just stated WW III may be beginning, now you don't know what's going on? Moreover, you had already blamed the West for it anyway. Don't be like Bog and go back on your word when it's plain for all to see.

But you were not talking about ww3 you were talking about what Syria was doing. Now you are changing your own words to try and win?
I have not blamed the west for what is apparently happening in Syria.


Quote:

I see. So evidence suggesting human rights abuses by Syrians is false, but evidence suggesting American human rights abuses is true. Lefty logic to the core.

No, evidence is lacking not false. What evidence of American human rights abuses and what has that got to do with anything?
Once again completely ignoring everything and just making up irrelevant crap as you go along.


Quote:

You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.

No, I said that the west would be to blame for starting a war if they invaded.
Get that through your thick ignorant head.


Quote:

You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

I don't need to hear it or ask to know it.
You are an idiot and everyone who reads this will know it because you are just making up crap.

Quote:

You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.

you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB

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bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

Everyone here knows that: Quote: Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Does not equal: [quote]If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else.

Even if they do not care to admit it.

You are grasping at straws that do not exist.


Quote:

Huh? You just stated WW III may be beginning, now you don't know what's going on? Moreover, you had already blamed the West for it anyway. Don't be like Bog and go back on your word when it's plain for all to see.

But you were not talking about ww3 you were talking about what Syria was doing. Now you are changing your own words to try and win?
I have not blamed the west for what is apparently happening in Syria.


Quote:

I see. So evidence suggesting human rights abuses by Syrians is false, but evidence suggesting American human rights abuses is true. Lefty logic to the core.

No, evidence is lacking not false. What evidence of American human rights abuses and what has that got to do with anything?
Once again completely ignoring everything and just making up irrelevant crap as you go along.


Quote:

You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.

No, I said that the west would be to blame for starting a war if they invaded.
Get that through your thick ignorant head.


Quote:

You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

I don't need to hear it or ask to know it.
You are an idiot and everyone who reads this will know it because you are just making up crap.[/quote]

Go back and re-read reply 2 and 4 of yours of the 1st page.

Why is the West to blame but not Bashar Assad?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Everyone here knows that: Quote: Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Does not equal: [quote]If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. Even if they do not care to admit it. You are grasping at straws that do not exist. [quote]Huh? You just stated WW III may be beginning, now you don't know what's going on? Moreover, you had already blamed the West for it anyway. Don't be like Bog and go back on your word when it's plain for all to see.

But you were not talking about ww3 you were talking about what Syria was doing. Now you are changing your own words to try and win?
I have not blamed the west for what is apparently happening in Syria.


Quote:

I see. So evidence suggesting human rights abuses by Syrians is false, but evidence suggesting American human rights abuses is true. Lefty logic to the core.

No, evidence is lacking not false. What evidence of American human rights abuses and what has that got to do with anything?
Once again completely ignoring everything and just making up irrelevant crap as you go along.


Quote:

You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.

No, I said that the west would be to blame for starting a war if they invaded.
Get that through your thick ignorant head.


Quote:

You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

I don't need to hear it or ask to know it.
You are an idiot and everyone who reads this will know it because you are just making up crap.[/quote]

Go back and re-read reply 2 and 4 of yours of the 1st page.

Why is the West to blame but not Bashar Assad?[/quote]
http://solutionproblem.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/cant-tell-if-trolling.jpg
Also good to see you ignoring 99% of content again  ::)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB

While completely ignoring the actions of others. i.e. Syrian government.

Quote:

You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. As are the palestinians.

2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer

3) What is your position?

SOB

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:34pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Everyone here knows that: Quote: Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Does not equal: [quote]If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. Even if they do not care to admit it. You are grasping at straws that do not exist. [quote]Huh? You just stated WW III may be beginning, now you don't know what's going on? Moreover, you had already blamed the West for it anyway. Don't be like Bog and go back on your word when it's plain for all to see. But you were not talking about ww3 you were talking about what Syria was doing. Now you are changing your own words to try and win? I have not blamed the west for what is apparently happening in Syria. [quote]I see. So evidence suggesting human rights abuses by Syrians is false, but evidence suggesting American human rights abuses is true. Lefty logic to the core.

No, evidence is lacking not false. What evidence of American human rights abuses and what has that got to do with anything?
Once again completely ignoring everything and just making up irrelevant crap as you go along.


Quote:

You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.

No, I said that the west would be to blame for starting a war if they invaded.
Get that through your thick ignorant head.


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You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

I don't need to hear it or ask to know it.
You are an idiot and everyone who reads this will know it because you are just making up crap.[/quote]

Go back and re-read reply 2 and 4 of yours of the 1st page.

Why is the West to blame but not Bashar Assad?[/quote]
http://solutionproblem.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/cant-tell-if-trolling.jpg
Also good to see you ignoring 99% of content again  ::)[/quote]

You can post all these childish pictures as much as you like, it doesn't dismiss the fact that are unwilling to look at the actions of the Syrian government. All blame must go to the West.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB While completely ignoring the actions of others. i.e. Syrian government.

While completely ignoring the fact that there is no evidence to say they Syrian government has done anything wrong.
Also, you do realise that if we were to invade and lets say with get away with it again without opposition we will kill 10000000000x the amount of people the Syrian army has been said to have.

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You can post all these childish pictures as much as you like, it doesn't dismiss the fact that are unwilling to look at the actions of the Syrian government. All blame must go to the West.

Listen carefully

The west would only be to blame when/if they do something to be blamed for. @ this point they havent done anything yet.

Did you finally hear it?

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:35pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:34pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Everyone here knows that: Quote: Russia have every right to do what they have done so the West will be at fault if something does happen. Does not equal: [quote]If something, anything goes wrong anywhere, somehow link it to the West and dissolve all responsibility for everyone else. Even if they do not care to admit it. You are grasping at straws that do not exist. [quote]Huh? You just stated WW III may be beginning, now you don't know what's going on? Moreover, you had already blamed the West for it anyway. Don't be like Bog and go back on your word when it's plain for all to see. But you were not talking about ww3 you were talking about what Syria was doing. Now you are changing your own words to try and win? I have not blamed the west for what is apparently happening in Syria. [quote]I see. So evidence suggesting human rights abuses by Syrians is false, but evidence suggesting American human rights abuses is true. Lefty logic to the core. No, evidence is lacking not false. What evidence of American human rights abuses and what has that got to do with anything? Once again completely ignoring everything and just making up irrelevant crap as you go along. [quote] You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it.

No, I said that the west would be to blame for starting a war if they invaded.
Get that through your thick ignorant head.


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You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries.

I don't need to hear it or ask to know it.
You are an idiot and everyone who reads this will know it because you are just making up crap.[/quote]

Go back and re-read reply 2 and 4 of yours of the 1st page.

Why is the West to blame but not Bashar Assad?[/quote]
http://solutionproblem.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/cant-tell-if-trolling.jpg
Also good to see you ignoring 99% of content again  ::)[/quote]

You can post all these childish pictures as much as you like, it doesn't dismiss the fact that are unwilling to look at the actions of the Syrian government. All blame must go to the West.


[/quote]When have I said I am unwilling to look at the actions of the Syrian army? It is obvious that I have been looking much harder then yourself because if you were looking hard you would know there is no evidence to support claims made against them.
You are an idiot and no one will take you seriously if you are just going to make stuff up.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB

That we should stay right away from it.
Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:36pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB While completely ignoring the actions of others. i.e. Syrian government. While completely ignoring the fact that there is no evidence to say they Syrian government has done anything wrong. Also, you do realise that if we were to invade and lets say with get away with it again without opposition we will kill 10000000000x the amount of people the Syrian army has been said to have.

There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly.

Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second.

Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:40pm:

Quote: You can post all these childish pictures as much as you like, it doesn't dismiss the fact that are unwilling to look at the actions of the Syrian government. All blame must go to the West. Listen carefully The west would only be to blame when/if they do something to be blamed for. @ this point they havent done anything yet. Did you finally hear it? SOB

But whatever they do, they'll be blamed for the bloodshed, right?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:36pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB While completely ignoring the actions of others. i.e. Syrian government. While completely ignoring the fact that there is no evidence to say they Syrian government has done anything wrong. Also, you do realise that if we were to invade and lets say with get away with it again without opposition we will kill 10000000000x the amount of people the Syrian army has been said to have. There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions.

So 'innocent until proven guilty' isn't something the right support?
You know that the west would kill millions if they invaded.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:44pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47

Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:43pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:36pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB While completely ignoring the actions of others. i.e. Syrian government. While completely ignoring the fact that there is no evidence to say they Syrian government has done anything wrong. Also, you do realise that if we were to invade and lets say with get away with it again without opposition we will kill 10000000000x the amount of people the Syrian army has been said to have. There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. So 'innocent until proven guilty' isn't something the right support? You know that the west would kill millions if they invaded.

Lol. More lefty logic. You claim 'innocent until proven guilty' but then in the next sentence charge the West even before anything occurs.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me.

Except you don't know that's what is happening.
You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship.

Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say?

Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:56pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:54pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say? Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities.

And you have yet to find any hypocrisy to expose, evident by the fact you have had to make stuff up out of thin air. Which you have done even in that sentence once again.
Never once have I stated or implied that I am turning a blind eye, you are the only one doing this.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:54pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say? Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities. And you have yet to find any hypocrisy to expose, evident by the fact you have had to make stuff up out of thin air. Which you have done even in that sentence once again. Never once have I stated or implied that I am turning a blind eye, you are the only one doing this.

You claim there is no evidence of human rights abuses in Syria, this is turning a blind eye to me.
Yet you're quickly to pounce on any supposed human rights abuses by the West even though no invasion has even occurred.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:36pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:29pm: Quote: You specifically stated that the West is to blame. Don't deny it. you either need to do a course in comprehension skills or you are being dishonest. I suspect tis the latter. He said that the west would be to blame if they do it. SOB While completely ignoring the actions of others. i.e. Syrian government. While completely ignoring the fact that there is no evidence to say they Syrian government has done anything wrong. Also, you do realise that if we were to invade and lets say with get away with it again without opposition we will kill 10000000000x the amount of people the Syrian army has been said to have. There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions.

Heh. Are you saying they wont?

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:01pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:54pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say? Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities. And you have yet to find any hypocrisy to expose, evident by the fact you have had to make stuff up out of thin air. Which you have done even in that sentence once again. Never once have I stated or implied that I am turning a blind eye, you are the only one doing this. You claim there is no evidence of human rights abuses in Syria, this is turning a blind eye to me. Yet you're quickly to pounce on any supposed human rights abuses by the West even though no invasion has even occurred.

There is no evidence only hear say from unreliable sources.
Why do you not support 'innocent until proven guilty'?

I speak about human rights abuses by the west because people ignore them. There is obviously not much need for me to raise abuses by non westerners. Its just like how over there they would speak a lot about the west and not much about what they do.

Please stop making up things.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:01pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:54pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say? Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities. And you have yet to find any hypocrisy to expose, evident by the fact you have had to make stuff up out of thin air. Which you have done even in that sentence once again. Never once have I stated or implied that I am turning a blind eye, you are the only one doing this. You claim there is no evidence of human rights abuses in Syria, this is turning a blind eye to me. Yet you're quickly to pounce on any supposed human rights abuses by the West even though no invasion has even occurred. There is no evidence only hear say from unreliable sources. Why do you not support 'innocent until proven guilty'? I speak about human rights abuses by the west because people ignore them. There is obviously not much need for me to raise abuses by non westerners. Its just like how over there they would speak a lot about the west and not much about what they do. Please stop making up things.

Lol. More lefty logic. You stated the West would kill millions even before anything has been done, yet you want to talk about innocent until proven guilty.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:08pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:06pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:01pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:54pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say? Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities. And you have yet to find any hypocrisy to expose, evident by the fact you have had to make stuff up out of thin air. Which you have done even in that sentence once again. Never once have I stated or implied that I am turning a blind eye, you are the only one doing this. You claim there is no evidence of human rights abuses in Syria, this is turning a blind eye to me. Yet you're quickly to pounce on any supposed human rights abuses by the West even though no invasion has even occurred. There is no evidence only hear say from unreliable sources. Why do you not support 'innocent until proven guilty'? I speak about human rights abuses by the west because people ignore them. There is obviously not much need for me to raise abuses by non westerners. Its just like how over there they would speak a lot about the west and not much about what they do. Please stop making up things. Lol. More lefty logic. You stated the West would kill millions even before anything has been done, yet you want to talk about innocent until proven guilty.

Ok if the west was to invade in the same manner as the have every other time then they would kill millions.

You are an idiot and your argument is based on labeling people and making up stuff. I wouldn't even give that the term logic.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:08pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:06pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:01pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:58pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:54pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:44pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:42pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:38pm: Quote: You don't know my position because I haven't stated it yet, nor have you asked. I merely point out the hypocrisy in your and Bog's position of only ever singling out the West for human rights abuses but never non-Western countries. 1) Where have i only singled out "the west" for human rights abuses? Israel isnt "western" is it? Its semitic. 2) I did ask your position and you didnt answer 3) What is your position? SOB That we should stay right away from it. Because it's partially an Islamic uprising, and countries with lots of Muslims need dictatorships to operate properly. Hahahahahaha wow I didn't think it was possible but you are continue to make yourself look dumber by the second. Didn't you just say that it was the Syrian 'government'. And according to you voting means it cannot be a dictatorship. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339939260/47#47 Blowing the poo out of your own people for protesting sounds like a dictatorship to me. Except you don't know that's what is happening. You said it yourself, its not a dictatorship. Anyway, clearly you are ignorant on the subject because it is supposedly the army doing it and not the government. If you don't know that most basic of thing why should we listen to what else you may say? Because I am here to expose the hypocrisy of so-called humanitarians such as yourself who blame the West for everything, but turn a blind eye when non-Westerners commit atrocities. And you have yet to find any hypocrisy to expose, evident by the fact you have had to make stuff up out of thin air. Which you have done even in that sentence once again. Never once have I stated or implied that I am turning a blind eye, you are the only one doing this. You claim there is no evidence of human rights abuses in Syria, this is turning a blind eye to me. Yet you're quickly to pounce on any supposed human rights abuses by the West even though no invasion has even occurred. There is no evidence only hear say from unreliable sources. Why do you not support 'innocent until proven guilty'? I speak about human rights abuses by the west because people ignore them. There is obviously not much need for me to raise abuses by non westerners. Its just like how over there they would speak a lot about the west and not much about what they do. Please stop making up things. Lol. More lefty logic. You stated the West would kill millions even before anything has been done, yet you want to talk about innocent until proven guilty. Ok if the west was to invade in the same manner as the have every other time then they would kill millions. You are an idiot and your argument is based on labeling people and making up stuff. I wouldn't even give that the term logic.

Lol. More lefty gems. I supposedly label and make stuff up, and here you are projecting the death of millions.

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There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions.

Heh. Are you saying they wont?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 6:05pm:

Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB

LOL

Are you saying they will?

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Lol. More lefty gems. I supposedly label and make stuff up, and here you are projecting the death of millions.

You know its true.

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will?

You know its true.
Don't lie to yourself or others.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others.

What's true?

You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 6:53pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:33pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others. What's true? You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D

Right but that's not what I was referring to was it so are you going to pussy away like your friend misty or are you going to face the facts?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:53pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:33pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others. What's true? You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D Right but that's not what I was referring to was it so are you going to pussy away like your friend misty or are you going to face the facts?

What facts exactly?

I've read a lot of dribble. Could you state them for me?

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:53pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:33pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others. What's true? You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D Right but that's not what I was referring to was it so are you going to pussy away like your friend misty or are you going to face the facts? What facts exactly? I've read a lot of dribble. Could you state them for me?

In regards to what?
Fact is that if the west was to invade Syria in the way it has invaded all the other countries, millions of people will die.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 7:06pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:03pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:53pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:33pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others. What's true? You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D Right but that's not what I was referring to was it so are you going to pussy away like your friend misty or are you going to face the facts? What facts exactly? I've read a lot of dribble. Could you state them for me? In regards to what? Fact is that if the west was to invade Syria in the way it has invaded all the other countries, millions of people will die.

Safe bet many would die.

So?

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 7:16pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:06pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:03pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:53pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:33pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others. What's true? You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D Right but that's not what I was referring to was it so are you going to pussy away like your friend misty or are you going to face the facts? What facts exactly? I've read a lot of dribble. Could you state them for me? In regards to what? Fact is that if the west was to invade Syria in the way it has invaded all the other countries, millions of people will die. Safe bet many would die. So?

So its ok for me to come and kill you?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:16pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:06pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:03pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:53pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:33pm: FriYAY wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:15pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will? You know its true. Don't lie to yourself or others. What's true? You said you didn't even know what was going on..like some dick on ozpolitics is gunna know anyway. ::) ::) ;D ;D Right but that's not what I was referring to was it so are you going to pussy away like your friend misty or are you going to face the facts? What facts exactly? I've read a lot of dribble. Could you state them for me? In regards to what? Fact is that if the west was to invade Syria in the way it has invaded all the other countries, millions of people will die. Safe bet many would die. So? So its ok for me to come and kill you?

Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i.

I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. ::) ::)

What's the next fact we have to face?

If you believe that the Russians are willing to risk a direct military confrontation with NATO over Syria then you're smoking the turbocrack.  The most they'll do is cordon off their naval base at Tartus and otherwise stay the hell out things. They know as well as we do that conventionally we can clean their clock any time we want, but that's besides the point.  Such a confrontation would go nuclear almost immediately and neither of us want that.

<<we can clean their clock any time we want,>>
.......................................................................

lol! the yanks are pathetic at war. Remember Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan lol!

Afghanistan, a bunch of bloody desert dwelling farmers lol!

I saw a clip of a bunch of American soldiers on the top of a tank when they were pulling out of Iraq, shouting and yahooing "yoohoo!!! we won, we won the war!! woohoo, we won!!!", USA!! USA!!! USA!!!

Pathetic, going back home to live in a cardboard box.

America didn't win sh1t, they ran away to invade another country, just like they're doing in Afghanistan. Can you see a trend?

You guys are good at the mouth but you can't fight.

The one thing you live for and so ashamedly bad at it lol

FriYAY wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 6:05pm: Quote: There's that lefty talk again. Syria innocent. The West will kill millions. Heh. Are you saying they wont? SOB LOL Are you saying they will?

That question was for mist but of course he wont answer. And if america invades syria of course they will.

SOB

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

<<we can clean their clock any time we want,>> ....................................................................... lol! the yanks are pathetic at war. Remember Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan lol! Afghanistan, a bunch of bloody desert dwelling farmers lol! I saw a clip of a bunch of American soldiers on the top of a tank when they were pulling out of Iraq, shouting and yahooing "yoohoo!!! we won, we won the war!! woohoo, we won!!!", USA!! USA!!! USA!!! Pathetic, going back home to live in a cardboard box. America didn't win sh1t, they ran away to invade another country, just like they're doing in Afghanistan. Can you see a trend? You guys are good at the mouth but you can't fight. The one thing you live for and so ashamedly bad at it lol

The thing is with those "wars" is that the "enemy" looks just like the "allies". Nobody knows who is supposedly good/bad so they just kill everyone.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 6:55am: <<we can clean their clock any time we want,>> ....................................................................... lol! the yanks are pathetic at war. Remember Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan lol! Afghanistan, a bunch of bloody desert dwelling farmers lol! I saw a clip of a bunch of American soldiers on the top of a tank when they were pulling out of Iraq, shouting and yahooing "yoohoo!!! we won, we won the war!! woohoo, we won!!!", USA!! USA!!! USA!!! Pathetic, going back home to live in a cardboard box. America didn't win sh1t, they ran away to invade another country, just like they're doing in Afghanistan. Can you see a trend? You guys are good at the mouth but you can't fight. The one thing you live for and so ashamedly bad at it lol The thing is with those "wars" is that the "enemy" looks just like the "allies". Nobody knows who is supposedly good/bad so they just kill everyone. SOB

That's what happens when you fight a war on "terror". What does a fracking terror look like. What next? a war on horror?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

<<we can clean their clock any time we want,>> ....................................................................... lol! the yanks are pathetic at war. Remember Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan lol!

Ok, you're official a smacking idiot, here's why.

It's all about force projection.  The RUssians have at best what forces they can move into position by sea up until such point as NATO, by which I mean, the US navy asserts ownership of the entire Mediterranean. We can do this any time we want simply by virtue of having the world's largest Air Force, the world's largest Navy, and the world's second largest Air Force (which coincidentally happens to be our navy). If it came to a purely conventional shooting match we could steam a trio of carrier Battle Groups into the Med and we'd have the largest air strike capability in range of Syria outside of strategic bombers.

Sure, the Russians have the "carrier" Admiral Kuznetsov, but her air group is all of 48 fixed wing combat aircraft.  Meanwhile just one of our Nimitz-class boats has twice that number of fixed wing assets plus AWACS, Aerial Refueling, and EWAR aircraft.  The Russians have just one Admiral Kuznetsov boat (technically they built two, but they sold the Varyag to the Indians who sold it to the Chinese). We've got ten Nimitz-class boats in service and we've got two of the newer Gerald Ford-class carriers currently being built.

We could very easily tell the rest of NATO to just hold their dicks while we flatten ever government and military installation in Syria and there wouldn't be a single smacking thing the Russians could do about it without using nuclear weapons.

And that would be without increasing the FY2013 USDOD budget a bit. See, now that we've pulled out of Iraq and we're pulling out of Afghanistan we've got all these shiny toys and this f*ck-off huge military budget to justify.  It's the 1980s all over again, only this time the Russians don't have anything to come play with us with other than strategic nuclear weapons and we proved during the Reagan administrations that when it comes to high-stakes poker the Russians always blink first.

When it comes to warfare there's one thing you really need to keep in mind about the US military.  The entire reason why asymmetrical wars like Iraq and Afghanistan are such drains for us is because out force structure for the last 60 years was designed around a single mission...

Ball punching the Soviet Union.

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Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i. I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes What's the next fact we have to face?

Well it was more the 'so' I was responding to not the first part.
You tell me?

Chard wrote on Jun 18^th, 2012 at 11:26pm:

If you believe that the Russians are willing to risk a direct military confrontation with NATO over Syria then you're smoking the turbocrack.  The most they'll do is cordon off their naval base at Tartus and otherwise stay the hell out things. They know as well as we do that conventionally we can clean their clock any time we want, but that's besides the point.  Such a confrontation would go nuclear almost immediately and neither of us want that.

Time will tell I guess.
At the end of the day this is a war that can be won with the press of a button so ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
That's why I take it seriously, and so should everyone else.
If you underestimate your enemy you have already lost.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 7:35am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 6:55am: <<we can clean their clock any time we want,>> ....................................................................... lol! the yanks are pathetic at war. Remember Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan lol! Afghanistan, a bunch of bloody desert dwelling farmers lol! I saw a clip of a bunch of American soldiers on the top of a tank when they were pulling out of Iraq, shouting and yahooing "yoohoo!!! we won, we won the war!! woohoo, we won!!!", USA!! USA!!! USA!!! Pathetic, going back home to live in a cardboard box. America didn't win sh1t, they ran away to invade another country, just like they're doing in Afghanistan. Can you see a trend? You guys are good at the mouth but you can't fight. The one thing you live for and so ashamedly bad at it lol The thing is with those "wars" is that the "enemy" looks just like the "allies". Nobody knows who is supposedly good/bad so they just kill everyone. SOB That's what happens when you fight a war on "terror". What does a fracking terror look like. What next? a war on horror?

A war on fat people?

when it comes to high-stakes poker the Russians always blink first.


They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it?

You're all talk and no substance, and like someone else said, sh1t broke, and going down faster than a fat kid on a water slide.

They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it?

It was a BRILLIANT idea.

One question you must ask is why didn't the stupid Nips surrender after the first?

They had three days to do it.

They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it?

Pansi, have you ever condemned the Nips for Pearl Harbour?

angeleyes wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it? It was a BRILLIANT idea. One question you must ask is why didn't the stupid Nips surrender after the first? They had three days to do it.

As much as what the Nazis did was a brilliant idea.
Winning a war by destroying civilians is not winning but cheating and not something to be proud of.
Its a shame that corrupt leaders and puppeteers give a bad name to our brave soldiers.


angeleyes wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it? Pansi, have you ever condemned the Nips for Pearl Harbour?

Have you ever condemned the US for cutting off the Japs oil beforehand?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

angeleyes wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:45am: They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it? It was a BRILLIANT idea. One question you must ask is why didn't the stupid Nips surrender after the first? They had three days to do it. As much as what the Nazis did was a brilliant idea. Winning a war by destroying civilians is not winning but cheating and not something to be proud of. Its a shame that corrupt leaders and puppeteers give a bad name to our brave soldiers. angeleyes wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:47am: They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it? Pansi, have you ever condemned the Nips for Pearl Harbour? Have you ever condemned the US for cutting off the Japs oil beforehand?

Have you condemned the Japs for invading China?

"Nanjing Massacre: 300000 Chinese People Killed, 20000 Women Raped . ... Factories of Death :"

angeleyes wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:53am: angeleyes wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:45am: They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it? It was a BRILLIANT idea. One question you must ask is why didn't the stupid Nips surrender after the first? They had three days to do it. As much as what the Nazis did was a brilliant idea. Winning a war by destroying civilians is not winning but cheating and not something to be proud of. Its a shame that corrupt leaders and puppeteers give a bad name to our brave soldiers. angeleyes wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:47am: They have more brains than you guys that's why. Dropping the bombs on Japan was such a great idea wasn't it? Pansi, have you ever condemned the Nips for Pearl Harbour? Have you ever condemned the US for cutting off the Japs oil beforehand? Have you condemned the Japs for invading China? "Nanjing Massacre: 300000 Chinese People Killed, 20000 Women Raped . ... Factories of Death :"

Have you condemned the West for invading countless countries? Killing billions of people? Creating life long poverty, depravity and raping them for everything they have?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:34am:

Quote: Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i. I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes What's the next fact we have to face? Well it was more the 'so' I was responding to not the first part. You tell me?

:-?

So you are just throwing around hypertheticals and passing them off as facts?

You said face the facts.

I faced the 1st "fact" people will die if there is an invasion.

What's the next fact? :-/

Have you condemned the West for invading countless countries? Killing billions of people?


Didn't take you long to get back to your shyte talking crap.  Go away little boy and play with what it is you normally do.

angeleyes wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

Have you condemned the West for invading countless countries? Killing billions of people? Didn't take you long to get back to your shyte talking crap.  Go away little boy and play with what it is you normally do.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha yes thats a good way to rebut, just call me a name.

FriYAY wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:34am: Quote: Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i. I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes What's the next fact we have to face? Well it was more the 'so' I was responding to not the first part. You tell me? :-? So you are just throwing around hypertheticals and passing them off as facts? You said face the facts. I faced the 1st "fact" people will die if there is an invasion. What's the next fact? :-/

What hypothetical's?
I am just reviewing method and their products.
What next fact?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:04am: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:34am: Quote: Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i. I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes What's the next fact we have to face? Well it was more the 'so' I was responding to not the first part. You tell me? :-? So you are just throwing around hypertheticals and passing them off as facts? You said face the facts. I faced the 1st "fact" people will die if there is an invasion. What's the next fact? :-/ What hypothetical's? I am just reviewing method and their products. What next fact?

OK HC.

You said...."are you going to face the facts? "

So i say "OK, i will face the facts"

So far your 1 fact is many will die if the West invades.

As there is no invasion, we are just talking hypothetically.

So what is the next "fact" to face?

FriYAY wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:07am: FriYAY wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:04am: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:34am: Quote: Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i. I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes What's the next fact we have to face? Well it was more the 'so' I was responding to not the first part. You tell me? :-? So you are just throwing around hypertheticals and passing them off as facts? You said face the facts. I faced the 1st "fact" people will die if there is an invasion. What's the next fact? :-/ What hypothetical's? I am just reviewing method and their products. What next fact? OK HC. You said...."are you going to face the facts? " So i say "OK, i will face the facts" So far your 1 fact is many will die if the West invades. As there is no invasion, we are just talking hypothetically. So what is the next "fact" to face?

Oh...
So much for figure(s) of speach.
Well the other fact I have stated in this thread is that currently the Syrian government/army is innocent until proven guilty because there is no legitimate evidence to back up the Wests claims.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:20am: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:07am: FriYAY wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:04am: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:34am: Quote: Listen hear Half Cocked i didn't say the so called "west" should invade, did i. I agreed with your so called "fact", that many would die if the west invaded. It's a no brainer really.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes What's the next fact we have to face? Well it was more the 'so' I was responding to not the first part. You tell me? :-? So you are just throwing around hypertheticals and passing them off as facts? You said face the facts. I faced the 1st "fact" people will die if there is an invasion. What's the next fact? :-/ What hypothetical's? I am just reviewing method and their products. What next fact? OK HC. You said...."are you going to face the facts? " So i say "OK, i will face the facts" So far your 1 fact is many will die if the West invades. As there is no invasion, we are just talking hypothetically. So what is the next "fact" to face? Oh... So much for figure(s) of speach. Well the other fact I have stated in this thread is that currently the Syrian government/army is innocent until proven guilty because there is no legitimate evidence to back up the Wests claims.

Innocent until proven guilty and people will die if there is an invasion.

OK, agreed.

So, what’s the next fact?

So far it’s all been a bit banal really.

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Innocent until proven guilty and people will die if there is an invasion. OK, agreed. So, what’s the next fact? So far it’s all been a bit banal really.

If that is not a fact I don't know what is.
Banal? Probably not if it was your life on the line I am guessing.
We are letting a psychopathic body of corrupt individuals possibly push us into ww3 where millions if not billions of people could die.
I know you like to stick to the right or whatever but this has nothing to do with sides, both bleed blood just the same.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

Quote: Innocent until proven guilty and people will die if there is an invasion. OK, agreed. So, what’s the next fact? So far it’s all been a bit banal really. If that is not a fact I don't know what is. Banal? Probably not if it was your life on the line I am guessing. We are letting a psychopathic body of corrupt individuals possibly push us into ww3 where millions if not billions of people could die. I know you like to stick to the right or whatever but this has nothing to do with sides, both bleed blood just the same.

What? Again I agreed with your “facts”.

Banal was a reference to your “facts” – people die in invasions and you should be innocent until proven guilty. I mean that’s hard-hitting stuff man. ::)

And the next bit is just hypothetical, hysteric rambling.

It just won’t do Half Cocked.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:36am:

Time will tell I guess.At the end of the day this is a war that can be won with the press of a button so ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

Hence why I stress the fact that CONVENTIONALLY the US can curbstomp Russia.  Problem is that Russia is a nuclear power, and the fun benefits of being a nuclear power is that 1. you can't get your ass kicked by another nuclear power, and 2. you no longer have to ever worry about a nation invading you.

There's an old saying in my line of work that applies here.

"One flies, they all fly."

Meaning is that once a single nuclear weapon is used all sides involved that have them will use them.  If you don't believe me, just ask and I'll explain why. 



bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:36am:

That's why I take it seriously, and so should everyone else. If you underestimate your enemy you have already lost.

I take this sort of thing seriously as well.  The last sixty years or so bears out my claim that the Russians will not get involved in a conflict in Syria other than to secure their naval base simply because they have nuclear weapons and NATO has them.  We've sent six decades or so doing our level damnedest to not get into a  confrontation that we both knew would go nuclear, so why would we start now?

Even in conventional methods they are pretty much the same. Both have negatives and positives, whats assured is that many would die on both sides so that is a loss for both sides.
Russia and almost all countries are very ignorant if they do not get/keep their hands on nukes.

Russia is a sleeping giant, they do not go out and look for trouble as much as the US. But its the silent ones you should be most weary of. An idiot will jump like a bull at a gate for the smallest thing, A smart person will bide their time and only react in serious situations.
There is a common misconception in the west that we are militarily superior and that is pretty dumb considering we haven't really seen China and Russia in full action since the 40's.

It seems fairly clear to me that it is bound to happen eventually. We are happy to let things start small without thinking about where they may lead.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Even in conventional methods they are pretty much the same. Both have negatives and positives, whats assured is that many would die on both sides so that is a loss for both sides.

Russia's military isn't even a shadow of what it was under the USSR. They don't have anywhere near the naval assets to contest the US Navy, their Air Force is kind of a joke now, and they're army is still a pack of poorly trained conscripts. Conventionally we'd have an easy time of it.  Sure, we'd take some losses, but the k/d ratio would be so hilariously skewed in our favor it resemble clubbing baby harp seals.

If you'd like I can take the time to give you a full order of battle for our military and theirs so you can see the massive disparity of forces here.



bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Russia and almost all countries are very ignorant if they do not get/keep their hands on nukes.

The last thing the world needs is more nuclear armed nations. The more nations that have them the greater the likelihood that an irrational state actor will get them and use them.



bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Russia is a sleeping giant, they do not go out and look for trouble as much as the US.

They don't go looking for trouble because they can't afford to do it.  Their economy is seriously jacked up. 



bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

There is a common misconception in the west that we are militarily superior and that is pretty dumb considering we haven't really seen China and Russia in full action since the 40's.

It's not a misconception. We really are that much more capable than either Russia or China militarily. Neither country has the ability to project military power outside of their region, and even then only on land.



bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

It seems fairly clear to me that it is bound to happen eventually. We are happy to let things start small without thinking about where they may lead.

Yeah, the history of the Cold War says you're wrong here.  We all go to great lengths to not get into direct conflicts with each other simply because we all have nuclear weapons.

I have a wedding to go to down in Alabama next month.

Mussel Shoals to be precise.

"Y'all be good now...."

Let's have one ding dong battle and get it over with.
Then we can all go back to watching telly :)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 11:52am:

I have a wedding to go to down in Alabama next month. Mussel Shoals to be precise. "Y'all be good now...."

Hey Andrei, do you think Ben Bernanke will start the printing presses rolling again tomorrow? You guys will be so rich again, all that fresh new money floating around.

I love America when they have quantitative easing, what number is this one? 27?

The problem is that this crap is decided by[ppl in suits in lil rooms far far away from the "trouble" and all the ppl it effects.

SOB