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From his ever-changing small business pulpit,  the Petulant Priest expounds incessantly about the end of the world, but how much credibility does he have? According to Denise Allen, absolutely none. What is it that makes people believe Tony Abbott? For some strange inexplicable reason, it never seems to occur to people that he may well be, well, lying to you — just to get your vote. For over 18 months now, Abbott has been rampaging around the nation like a door-to-door snake-oil salesman — dropping in on every single manufacturing business he thinks will let him in the door and give him a platform for his manipulative and calculating Chinese whispers. Of course, many do believe him as he bleats endlessly about his cynically concocted scare-mongering version of Armageddon. Hellfire and damnation, preaches Tony! ‘Oh verily, this evil carbon tax – brought in by that lying, evil, satanic witch – will tear the sky asunder and make it fall in upon your heads … and the world as we know it will end on July 1. Repent all ye sinners! The end is nigh! Doom, doom, DOOM!’ For over 18 tedious months, Abbott has ranted and railed against the Government’s carbon tax — a pricing method, let’s not forget, that he said himself was “the best way to price carbon”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=12PN66IBoPs Now, of course, he conveniently forgets that he was once the great purveyor and an ardent supporter of that which he so vehemently condemns. Quite frankly, the Abbott has no shame. He brazenly stands on his pulpit, day after day, telling twisted, scheming,  lies – like a modern Rasputin (or maybe an “obstructionist Capuchin”, in the words of an immortal) – as if he alone has always been the most righteous, honest, moralistic, ethical person that ever was — who can do and say no wrong.  In actual fact, The Priestly Man is a blatant liar — and most certainly a fraud. He slithers around the countryside like the black plague, infecting the minds of the people – willingly, in some unaccountable cases – with his toxic bag of lies and drivel — obviously rendering them all but incapable of thinking for themselves because with monotonous regularity they all robotically parrot his lying rhetoric. It would never occur to them to check the facts for themselves. The Abbott is the great pretender, claiming to be the almighty saviour of the world… “Vote for me…I’ll save you!” ….From what? From the gospel truth, maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tc5ljcri6Nk Or from a price on pollution, to reduce emissions by 5 per cent — the exact same target he and his clueless colleagues have themselves agreed to? From a price that Treasury and (so far) three State Governments have proved will have minimal effect on the cost of some goods and services — and for which millions will be compensated for? Oh, but Cardinal Abbott and his team think they have a much better plan — a plan that includes, among other things, planting 20 million trees, though they haven’t said where. And they also haven’t said who; maybe the some of the public servants they plan to sack and put into a forced Work for the Dole program? And how much will it cost? Well…according to their CC policy on their website its only going to cost them $5 per tree! Yes, a forced labour work for the dole program it is — just like the UK Tories utilised during the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee. They are also going to pay the biggest polluters billions – out of consolidated revenue – not to pollute! Isn’t that like blackmail? That’s giving our money to rich people so they don’t mess up our environment. Anyway, at the end of the day, we will be paying the price — which according to Treasury estimates, will be in the vicinity of $1,400 per year out of your pocket. And remember — no compensation! On the other hand, Labor’s policy of making the big polluter pay a price for the pollution they create and they spew into the atmosphere – and then using that money to compensate you for the very minor increase in prices – will actually make millions of middle to low income Australians better off. So, having a carbon tax will make ordinary people better off — yet the Abbott’s policy will make everyone worse off! This is what I don’t get — why do gullible people believe him? Where is the sense in that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vPmpswEJ-sg And if (and it is a pretty big if, regardless of what the mainstream media cheer squads might tell you) Abbott is ever made PM — he is going to rip all that compensation, all those tax breaks – including the raising of the tax-free threshold from $6,000 to $18,000 – away and give the money to the big polluters. Not only that, he also intends to give Australian women the worlds most expensive paid maternity leave. That will be, get this folks — A GREAT BIG NEW TAX on business, making $5 million in taxable profits; a $2.7billion tax! So, for all the single people and DINKs out there who are constantly complaining about “missing out on a hand out”, you along with every other working Australian will be paying, by way of increased, prices — for wealthy women to have babies. So, what do we have so far? Firstly, all compensation ripped away from you — your hard earnt tax dollars going in a great big handout to big polluters to not pollute Secondly, businesses being slugged with a GREAT BIG NEW TAX that will force them to increase prices just so wealthy women will be paid well for having a baby. Yup, stuff the poor little working woman on $30,000 to 40,000 a year, because the Great Big New Tax on business will also pay for the paid maternity leave but on a much lower scale — whereas Labor’s policy is fair and equitable and every new mother gets the same, no matter what their pay scale. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TjklT59clE4 So, according to Abbott, it’s ok to pay big polluters your taxes not to pollute and put a GBNT on business to pay women to have babies — but it’s not ok to tax to big polluters for poisoning our planet? Oh — and he is going to cancel the mining tax that will allow the Australian people to share in the multi billions of dollars the industry generates out of the resources that belong to all Australians; wealth beyond anyone’s wildest dreams, except of course the likes of Gina, Clive and to a lesser extent Twiggy. So take all that out of your weekly income, benefits and super, everyone — that’s fair. Mark my words, Abbott will put up the GST if he ever get to be PM — because it will be the only way he could possibly make up for his huge $70 billion black hole. Do people believe The Monk because they simply don’t like the Prime Minister? Or is it that they have believed the rampant scaremongering of the nation’s commercial shock jocks – some of whom have the credibility of a slug – when they spew their venom about the PM “lying”, when in actual fact she simply compromised due to being faced with a minority Government; something Abbott himself would have done had the Independents given him the nod — and they didn’t because they didn’t trust him, didn’t believe he would be a good negotiator and certainly didn’t believe he would be a good PM. For 18 months now, the mainstream media have barracked for The Mad Monk like rabid Collingwood supporters, have given him free rein to perpetuate his toxic drivel at every moment and have never once taken him to task nor challenged him to – not only provide the proof about the things he has been saying that has scared the living daylights out of the electorate – but to explain to the people how his climate change policy will stack up — and how all his blood oaths will affect the budget bottom line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvYzLIywCiA And this is not the only thing he has lied to the people about. I don’t have enough space to go into everything else, but the refugee issue alone is a whole new topic on its own! The Abbott has very cleverly manipulated the debate by worming his way into the minds of the people, infecting them like a terminal disease with his noxious mendacity about how the world as we know will end come July 1. When the world doesn’t collapse on July 1, we will be owed an apology, but don’t expect that from The Monk, he will just seamlessly move on to a new scare campaign. You mark my words.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/why-do-people-believe-the-abbott/

Who believes him apart from macca and longweekend and his forty socks?

Because he is a good, decent Catholic man.

matty wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 12:58pm:

Because he is a good, decent Catholic man.

He is a known lier so much for his catholic upbringing

John S wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:00pm:

matty wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:58pm: Because he is a good, decent Catholic man. He is a known lier so much for his catholic upbringing

If you call Abbott a liar, what does that make Gillard?

Why do people believe Tony Abbott?


Maybe because his lies are reported and repeated  daily month after month in the popular (propoganda) media  as being factual.

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THE chief executive of Shell, Peter Voser, has applauded the Gillard government’s $23 carbon price, saying it should not deter investment in Australian resources projects and countries that failed to follow suit would fall behind. Shell, the world’s second-largest energy firm, is investing more than $30 billion in Australia in the next five years. Mr Voser told the ABC’s 7.30 program last night the company already assumes a $40 carbon price when it judges whether or not a project will be profitable. ”We’re investing those sums of money because we take 20, 30 years’ view rather than just the next two, three quarters and in that sense, historical experience and also a forward-looking experience for Australia is very positive,” he said. Advertisement: Story continues below ”Shell as a company is actually very much advocating that we need a price for carbon on the worldwide basis and we want that to be on a market mechanism.” He said Australia was generally an attractive place to develop resources projects and the carbon price should not deter investors. His remarks counter claims by the Coalition and other critics of the government’s carbon price that the policy will damage resources investment in Australia. Mr Voser said the world would ultimately have to follow in Australia’s footsteps because the ballooning demand for energy would force a shift to cleaner sources. He said countries that did not have a carbon price would ultimately fall behind: ”I think they will not be competitive in attracting investment.”

http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2012/06/20/tax-is-no-deterrent-for-investors-says-shell-boss/

Buried on page 5 of the Business section.
Do you think it would be there if he bagged the CT?

Dnarever wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:19pm:

Why do people believe Tony Abbott? Maybe because his lies are reported and repeated  daily month after month in the popular (propoganda) media  as being factual.

Not to mention being constantly parrotted on here and on other forums by extreme right-wing shills.

You know who you are.

As do we....sadly :(

smithy this is the transcript of the 7.30 on Thursday night


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Australian Broadcasting Corporation Broadcast: 21/06/2012 Reporter: Leigh Sales Peter Voser is Global CEO of Shell, one of the world's biggest companies and one that is investing heavily in Australia, so what does he make of the economic outlook and cost factors such as the carbon tax and labour hire. Transcript LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: Get set for more fireworks over foreign workers flying into Australia to take up local jobs. One of the most powerful business leaders in the world says his company will have to import workers for major projects in Australia because productivity here is too low, the dollar's too high and labour costs too much. Peter Voser is global CEO of Shell, which is set to become one of the largest investors in Australia over the next five years, spending about $30 billion on resource projects. Mr Voser's been in Australia this week and he spoke exclusively to 7.30. Mr Voser, thank you very much for joining us. PETER VOSER, GLOBAL CEO, SHELL: It's great to be here. Thank you. LEIGH SALES: Shell is investing more than $30 billion in Australia over the next five years. Given the global economic uncertainty, you must consider it a pretty safe place to invest then. PETER VOSER: Yeah, that's absolutely correct. We are investing those sums of monies because we take 2030 as view rather than just the next two, three quarters, and in that sense historical experience and also our forward-looking experience for Australia is very positive. LEIGH SALES: In a couple of weeks Australia will introduce a $23-a-tonne price on carbon. How will that impact on the bottom line of your business here? PETER VOSER: Well let me first say that Shell as a company is actually very much advocating that we need a price for carbon on a worldwide basis and we want that to be on a market mechanism. So for years actually Shell has included in all their projects a carbon price of $40 a tonne, so from that point of view we take a very long-term view that the carbon will be priced and needs therefore to be covered in our profitability in the projects. LEIGH SALES: You say that you've factored in a price of $40 a tonne. Do you think then that Australia is underpricing carbon? PETER VOSER: I think if you have a market mechanism, it would actually be established by the market. If I look today across the world, I think you don't have too many who would be above that price of the Australian price at this stage, but as I said, we take a 20, 30 years view and over that time we will judge on how our $40 will match all the countries where we are investing into. LEIGH SALES: You say that there aren't too many countries in the world that would have a price above that $23 figure. Do you think that that is a problem at all for Australia's competitiveness as a place for international companies to invest? PETER VOSER: I think it's more than just a carbon tax. I think it's the whole country and how interested the country is into foreign investments and developing big resource projects. So it's about labour productivity, it's about fiscal terms, it's about the overall environment to how you get permits established, how you can actually invest. So, carbon is own tax - is only one of the elements and I think in general the Australian country is an important and an interesting area to invest for us. LEIGH SALES: What do you think will happen over the long range to countries that don't price carbon? PETER VOSER: I think they will not achieve the long-term policies the world is going to set. I think they will be not competitive in attracting the right investments in the longer term, and therefore I think we need really to get some agreements for the longer term now by more than just Australia but other countries as well that we are actually move in the right directions. And you see other countries have already gone there and I think it hasn't actually kind of worked detrimental to the investment policies of those countries. LEIGH SALES: Given Shell's quite strong position on this, would your company be bothered if the Coalition parties in Australia came to government and repealed the carbon price as they have promised to do? PETER VOSER: No, I don't think we would be bothered. We would certainly offer our advice, our insights on how we see the long-term energy market actually developing and I think there can be discussions on how you actually build up a carbon price over the longer term. And let's be clear: we actually don't like carbon taxes too much; we actually like market mechanism for carbon pricing, so you could also actually work towards that in the longer term rather than to have a fixed tax. LEIGH SALES: As I mentioned, Shell has some very major investments happening in Australia. Given the tight labour market here, how are you planning to get the workers to staff these projects? PETER VOSER: Yeah, I think that the overall competitive productivity rates in Australia are really a concern. I think you have the high Australian dollar, you have got a scarce workforce in that sense and therefore we are concerned about the overall rates which we are paying for Australian Labor and that clearly needs some interventions from our side to make our projects more economic. So this is an area which is of high interest to us and is a concern for the longer term competitive nature of Australian gas projects which are already today some of the most expensive ones, and in order to stay competitive for Australia, some measures have to be taken here. LEIGH SALES: And what sort of measures do you think should be taken? PETER VOSER: I think clearly here we need more workforce so we need to be free to import labour as well, quite clearly. We need to optimise the supply chain, some of which will have to really be built outside Australia in order to actually get the costs better under control, and I think these are some of the measures. I leave the exchange rate to those who can manage that one. That's not up to me, but it's a clear concern to us. But some measures we can take and some need to come from the Government. LEIGH SALES: On the question of the importation of labour, Australian unions would say that they are bothered by that because they fear that it will lead to an erosion of conditions for Australian workers. What would you say to that? PETER VOSER: I think as a business we also have the clear desire to bring technology and generation into Australia, so therefore actually I think there is a future for Australian labour force as well to actually work in new areas. Let's take floating LNG which we are building. We're doing now research within Australia for this as well, so I think there will be new areas where we can actually employ Australian labour force. But I think in order to actually stay competitive and work for the revenue flow into the countries, we need to make sure we can invest in a competitive way and for that we need to make the best out of it and bring some people in so that we can actually deliver our projects at the competitive rate. LEIGH SALES: Peter Voser, we very much appreciate you making time to speak to 7.30 on your trip to Australia. Thank you. PETER VOSER: Thank you very much for having me.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3530737.htm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:14pm:

John S wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:00pm: matty wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:58pm: Because he is a good, decent Catholic man. He is a known lier so much for his catholic upbringing If you call Abbott a liar, what does that make Gillard?

Gillard told one lie accord to your mob. How many as Abbott told?

John S wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:14pm: John S wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:00pm: matty wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:58pm: Because he is a good, decent Catholic man. He is a known lier so much for his catholic upbringing If you call Abbott a liar, what does that make Gillard? Gillard told one lie accord to your mob. How many as Abbott told?

Really? Only one? Are you sure you don't wanna go back and check that before you get bombarded with a shopping list of her lies and broken promises?

John S wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:00pm:

matty wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:58pm: Because he is a good, decent Catholic man. He is a known lier so much for his catholic upbringing

Has he ever told a lie as big as Gillard's?

Kat wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:19pm: Why do people believe Tony Abbott? Maybe because his lies are reported and repeated  daily month after month in the popular (propoganda) media  as being factual. Not to mention being constantly parrotted on here and on other forums by extreme right-wing shills. You know who you are. As do we....sadly :(

Unlike (not) neutral centrists like you and smithy, hey Kat?

And what happened to your gender?

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bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:41pm:

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My thoughts on Gillard precisely!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:41pm: Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack My thoughts on Gillard precisely!

Well if you think that about Gillard then you must think it about every other politician.
So then whats the point of focusing on one, or one party.
When they are all the same.
Focus on the system.
Politicians are only meant to act as microphones for the public, so the public needs to whip them back into line so that is what they do.
If the system was running like it is meant to it would not matter one bit what individual is in office or whatever.

You may think I am wrong but one thing is for sure and that is that the current system and fighting like rabid dogs is not getting us anywhere apart from a place without a sign called shyt creek.

John S wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:14pm: John S wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:00pm: matty wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:58pm: Because he is a good, decent Catholic man. He is a known lier so much for his catholic upbringing If you call Abbott a liar, what does that make Gillard? Gillard told one lie accord to your mob. How many as Abbott told?

That he will repeal the carbon tax.

SOB

New poll out!

SOB

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bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:47pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:43pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:41pm: Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack My thoughts on Gillard precisely! Well if you think that about Gillard then you must think it about every other politician. So then whats the point of focusing on one, or one party. When they are all the same. Focus on the system. Politicians are only meant to act as microphones for the public, so the public needs to whip them back into line so that is what they do. If the system was running like it is meant to it would not matter one bit what individual is in office or whatever. You may think I am wrong but one thing is for sure and that is that the current system and fighting like rabid dogs is not getting us anywhere apart from a place without a sign called shyt creek.

Sorta agree with most of that.

I hate all the pricks and wish they would just STF up and work on better policies for Australia.

Won't happen, of course, political parties aren't there to work together.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

New poll out! SOB

2 nice pictures of chicken Little - "Help the sky is falling the sky is falling".

In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day.

Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions.

There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity.

As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline.

His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A.

Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned.

It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews.

The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/abbott-steers-away-from-the-media/story-e6frerdf-1226405820225

____ wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 3:27pm:

In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life.

Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott???

He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 3:27pm: In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life. Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott??? He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

LOLOLOILOLOLOLOLOLOL

SOB

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 3:27pm: In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life. Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott??? He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

Yes Labor should be ashamed.

Low Unemployment and Economic Growth after the worst GFC since the Depression ... what the hell does Labor think they are doing.

Australias Government is more evil than the USA, Israel, Iran or Syria. 8-)

matty wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:30pm: Dnarever wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:19pm: Why do people believe Tony Abbott? Maybe because his lies are reported and repeated  daily month after month in the popular (propoganda) media  as being factual. Not to mention being constantly parrotted on here and on other forums by extreme right-wing shills. You know who you are. As do we....sadly :( Unlike (not) neutral centrists like you and smithy, hey Kat? And what happened to your gender?

Yes, Matty. It really is amazing how many people are changing their gender at the moment.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 3:27pm: In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life. Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott??? He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

hahahahaha your an idiot ....

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 3:27pm: In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life. Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott??? He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

That's true, Shane B. I know you're new to this forum, but have you heard of Matty yet? He'll be running in the next election in a yet to be decided seat. He has always gotten what he wants, and has never had to work too hard for it either.

He'll be working for the Coalition to fix Labor's mess as a first priority. That's Liberal policy: ending the Labor waste.

Others will be working on stopping the boats and ending the carbon tax. I think Phallic Baldwin will be working on the boats issue. He's waiting until Matty gets into government first.

That just leaves the carbon tax, but this shouldn't be too hard. We'll just need another election and we should be right. We'll leave that one for Mr Abbott.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 3:27pm: In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life. Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott??? He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

Shane B, if you should go to one of matty's meetings at Ryde be careful, although he's engaged to a sweet little thing he calls angeleyes, he has had close relationships in the past with gorgeous young men, so if you want to hang onto your self respect I suggest you take his sweet talk with a grain of salt. I can say these things because I'm like an aunty to matty, and I've been invited to the wedding, it will be fabulous with all the well known politicians in attendance, Julia and Tim too I believe, if he can find a waistcoat to fit, very formal affair, oh yes.

It will be a marvellous affair, Pansi, with a large number of guests. I'm sure Shane B will receive an invite soon.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 3:27pm: In Canberra there's nothing more frustrating for press gallery journalists than trying to pin down Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, even though he makes himself available almost every parliamentary sitting day. Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do "doorstops" at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions. There are not many - he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn't want to talk about. Also, because these events are outside Parliament House, only a small number of journalists attend, as most have time and filing pressures and can't afford the hour necessary to get to and from what is primarily a picture opportunity. As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews. He hasn't appeared on Cassidy's Insiders since the beginning of last year - and it's been the same time since he did an interview with Lateline. His appearances on the ABC's 7.30 are confined to specific events so that more general questioning is kept to a minimum, and it's a long time since Abbott has conducted a longer interview with any of the major newspapers. Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A. Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning - for better or for worse, as far as she's concerned. It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn't give longer, searching interviews. The fact Abbott and his advisers have a deliberate policy to avoid scrutiny should be a major concern for all who take an interest in our national public life. Maybe that's because the press is dominated by left wing elites who are constantly trying to skewer Abbott??? He'd a good man who has worked hard and has good conservative values. He'll set the country right, but unfortunately will have to fix Labor's mess as a first priority.

Name all the mainstream media organisations that are run by lefties?..
I cant think of any

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 9:50pm:

Name all the mainstream media organisations that are run by lefties?.. I cant think of any

Your ABC. A fooking commune, that one.

i think the issue is more that the media tends to be run by liars not lefties or righties

I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her.

I bet even her mum can't stand her.

woof woof wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 9:59pm:

I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her.

And when will Abbott go on QandA?
Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide?

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 10:06pm:

woof woof wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:59pm: I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her. And when will Abbott go on QandA? Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide?

And when will Julia go on the Bolt Report?

Not a single Labor Minister has been on the Bolt Report. What do they have to hide?

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 11:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 10:06pm: woof woof wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:59pm: I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her. And when will Abbott go on QandA? Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide? And when will Julia go on the Bolt Report? Not a single Labor Minister has been on the Bolt Report. What do they have to hide?

But bolt doesn't interview, he talks over the top of people he disagrees with.

You'd like Matty, Shane B. He wants to go on Bolt. Angeleyes doesn't think it would be good for his image.

She wants him to go on David Oldfield instead.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 11:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 10:06pm: woof woof wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:59pm: I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her. And when will Abbott go on QandA? Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide? And when will Julia go on the Bolt Report? Not a single Labor Minister has been on the Bolt Report. What do they have to hide?

Like most people Ive never watched the Bolt report so I have no idea who or what he has on his show.
I do know however that he is a self confessed mouth piece for the Coalition so the answer may be self evident.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 11:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 10:06pm: woof woof wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:59pm: I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her. And when will Abbott go on QandA? Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide? And when will Julia go on the Bolt Report?

Woof Woof mutes the sound when she comes on Sky News, Shane B.

Why would you listen to her if she was on Bolt?

Do you think Juliar should go on Bolt, Phallic Baldwin?

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 9:57pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:50pm: Name all the mainstream media organisations that are run by lefties?.. I cant think of any Your ABC. A fooking commune, that one.

Yeah I had heard this and watched it for a while. They are as bad as the rest. Because they go 24/7 though they have to actually allow the PM some airtime (be it as little as possible) and anytime anything happens abbott is the one they interview. No ABC is not leftie - and its not even unbiased like it used to be.

ALL our media seems to be biased towards abbott. Its weird cause hes such a lil troll.

SOB

woof woof wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 9:59pm:

I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her.

Yes good sheep. Abbott says over and over again how bad she is over the airwaves and so ppl listen to him and mute her. If you dont listen to her how do you know she has nothing to say? Hmmm? Isnt it better to listen to all of them so you have all sides of it? All abbott says is how rotten she is anyway - @ least she talks about issues of the day rather than bothering with the bickering.

SOB

One has to ask the question.  Why do the liberals keep the good Australian people in the dark?.  Yes it is true, we do know a few very frightening things.  However for the best part of it, Mr Abbott just wont spell out what he has planed for us.    :( 

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 11:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 10:06pm: woof woof wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:59pm: I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her. And when will Abbott go on QandA? Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide? And when will Julia go on the Bolt Report? Not a single Labor Minister has been on the Bolt Report. What do they have to hide?

Why would anyone go on that biased farting session ?

An appearence on The Simpsons or Jersey Shore with Snooki and JWoww would hold more political credability.

Shane B wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 11:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 10:06pm: woof woof wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:59pm: I think its more of a case that no one believes a word Gillard says, when she comes on Sky I mute it or change channels, nothing she could do or say will make me listen to her. I know of no one who has anything good to say about her. I bet even her mum can't stand her. And when will Abbott go on QandA? Julia has done it twice so what does Tony have to hide? And when will Julia go on the Bolt Report? Not a single Labor Minister has been on the Bolt Report. What do they have to hide?

Bolt is not a show where they interview you ... Bolt asks the questions and then tells you the answers, hardly an interview .. he doesn't listen to or respect any answers that clash with his own opinions ... he's just a mouth piece for the liberal party ...

and for those who don't think the media is biased .. considering Murdock alone owns over 70% of the media, and he is publicly anti Gallard, that already accounts for 70% of the main street media

Stupid people believe anything, thats why phony tony has a conga line.