A voter at a federal election is influenced by a number of factors ... family's political view, personal experience, advertising and so on.

So to say one's religious view is not influential would be illogical. To some portion, religious voters are influenced by their religious belief.

So out of the parties, surely Greens would be the closest to the religious beliefs of christians.

Some quotes from Christine Milne


Quote:

Christine Milne: Well, on the contrary, the Greens don't have obvious disdain for Christian values. That is something that perhaps Mr Wallace might say, but there are many Christians who are members of the Greens and by our actions in the parliament... We say that every piece of legislation is values-laden, and we argue that the budget is one of the pieces of legislation which demonstrate what sort of values you hold, and that's very much a Christian-laden document in the sense of, you know, 'I was hungry and you gave me food; I was thirsty, you gave me to drink; I was a stranger and you took me in; I was sick and you visited me.' The Greens were the only ones who stood up against the tax cuts, who said we ought to be putting money into health and education, saying 'if we can't support indigenous rights and health and education now when we've got such a surplus, when will we?' And I must say that the Australian Christian Lobby has never come out and made a statement supporting the strong stand the Greens have taken on refugees, against the Northern Territory intervention. In fact, I think Mr Wallace supported the Pacific Solution.

Quote:

Christine Milne: Exactly. And they recognise just how strongly Greens adhere to principles of social justice, human dignity, respect for life. We have policies of harm minimisation, harm reduction. We're out there saying we welcome comment on public economic and social policy, that we really want to see the principles of justice there. And I'm interested also that the Australian Christian Lobby never, ever talks about the fact that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than the rich man, and that's because of the whole prosperity gospel. And I've been urging since my inaugural speech to the parliament that what we need is a real values debate in this country, where we actually talk about the values that underpin social and economic policy. Because the way that the Australian Christian Lobby has managed to define Christian values is to confine it to a very narrow range of values, therefore suggesting that every other issue is value-free. And what that does is reinforce the conservative government, which basically brings in policies which approve of discrimination, which don't show compassion, which are intolerant, which don't give a fair go -- and somehow those things are not values-laden. So I think this was a serious effort by the Greens to really demonstrate that before we see this incursion of really fundamentalist religious right into Australian politics, people need to know where it's coming from, and I think Mr Wallace could clear that up by actually saying who's funding the Australian Christian Lobby.

Quote:

Christine Milne: Well, I certainly wouldn't have used that language myself, but what Kerry was trying to express was a strong position on a woman's right to control their own reproduction and access to legal, safe and affordable and confidential reproductive health services, including where appropriate, termination of pregnancy. I mean, basically, providing access to unbiased counselling is really very important in Australia. We do not want to go back to the old days of backyard abortions. But the critical thing is to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place. But let me also say, Stephen, that just as you might say that about people in the Greens, the Howard government took Australia to war in Iraq, the Howard government lied about children overboard, the Howard government repudiated refugees -- all fundamental Christian values, which were completely rejected in those particular actions. And they're also out there giving away $34 billion in tax cuts when we've got 100,000 people homeless in Australia. And it's that particular issue of if you do that to other people, then you're actually undermining Christian principles. And loving one another is really important.

Quote:

Christine Milne: Well, I think it really demonstrates that Family First doesn't really stand by any particular set of principles. I mean, the Greens are out there saying, 'it's social justice, it's environment, it's peace and non-violence, participatory democracy.' Now what do Family First stand for? And especially on top of one of their New South Wales state executive being disendorsed for engaging in internet pornography. So I think there are a few questions to be asked about what Family First actually stands for.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/religionreport/australias-christian-vote/3223818


Christian Voters should consider Greens to be the best party as to injecting christian values onto the Australian Parliament, when evaluating all issues before making a decision on who to vote for.

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tHE HYPOCRITICAL CHRISTIANS OF THIS COUNTRY ARE A DISGRACE!

TONY ABBOTT IS A RHODES SCHOLAR DON'T FORGET!!

religion and politics should be as far seperated as possible.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

religion and politics should be as far seperated as possible.

Are you recommending religious voters should be banned from expressing their vote since religious values will underpin their voting choice.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

religion and politics should be as far seperated as possible.

Agreed.

i DON'T AGREE: HYPOCRISY SIMPLY HAS TO BE EXPOSED WHEN IT REARS IT'S UGLY HEAD!

DEMOCRACY IS DYSFUNCTIONAL BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA!

  :o :o

HATING ON RELIGION IS FAIR ENOUGH BUT NOT IF YOU ARE SIMPLY GOING TO LET HYPOCRISY TAKE IT'S PLACE!!

HYPOCRISY IS THE REASON RELIGION IS HATED!

  :o :o :o

____ wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Are you recommending religious voters should be banned from expressing their vote since religious values will underpin their voting choice.

Are you implying that anyone with strong religious beliefs is incapable of thinking for themselves?

Kat wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:07pm: religion and politics should be as far seperated as possible. Agreed.

Then should the Family First Party be banned for running candidates until it state it no longer wants to promote christian values.

Should the other parties put FF last in their referencing deals.



And if people oppose religion and politics being mixed, where is the outrage of having to watch a prayer before question time every time.

Faux opposition to religious values in parliament because the right are the furtherest away from christian values?

Frances wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:09pm: Are you recommending religious voters should be banned from expressing their vote since religious values will underpin their voting choice. Are you implying that anyone with strong religious beliefs is incapable of thinking for themselves?

As I have stated in the opening post, religious belief has influence over one's voting decision.

So as long as religion exists, religion will be a part of any and all democratic systems.


This being so, the religious influence on religious voters should be more Greens than any other current political party.

It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.   

... wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.

How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not.

Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies?

____ wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies?

Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either....

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:37pm:

____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies? Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either....

bio ethics ... you mean clone technologies, that are now healing the once sick.

When Jesus saw a ill person, did he ever repair that person.

And if he had to use bio ethical measures, do you think he would see this as part of the scope of your god's ability whitey?

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:37pm:

Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either....

Given that the term was not even coined until 1927, I don't think that is very surprising.

____ wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:37pm: ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies? Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either.... bio ethics ... you mean clone technologies, that are now healing the once sick. When Jesus saw a ill person, did he ever repair that person. And if he had to use bio ethical measures, do you think he would see this as part of the scope of your god's ability whitey?

CORPORATE WHITEY DOESN'T HAVE A GOD SO THEIR IS NO POINT PRETENDING.

HE IS SIMPLY TRYING TO CON YOU!

HE IS A WARMONGER AND DECEIBT IS HIS LANGUAGE!

HE CAN'T HELP IT.... HE HAS NO SELF CONTROL!

SOMEONE MUST HAVE HATED HIM AND HE IS GETTING RID OF THE FEELING THE ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW!!!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:44pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:37pm: ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies? Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either.... bio ethics ... you mean clone technologies, that are now healing the once sick. When Jesus saw a ill person, did he ever repair that person. And if he had to use bio ethical measures, do you think he would see this as part of the scope of your god's ability whitey? CORPORATE WHITEY DOESN'T HAVE A GOD SO THEIR IS NO POINT PRETENDING. HE IS SIMPLY TRYING TO CON YOU! HE IS A WARMONGER AND DECEIBT IS HIS LANGUAGE! HE CAN'T HELP IT.... HE HAS NO SELF CONTROL! SOMEONE MUST HAVE HATED HIM AND HE IS GETTING RID OF THE FEELING THE ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW!!!

Maybe a circus clown laughed at him as a kid.

Bottom line, Greens are the closest to christian values, and he doesn't like this so is clutching at straws.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

HE CAN'T HELP IT.... HE HAS NO SELF CONTROL!

That could be said of a few other forum members too....

Frances wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:49pm: HE CAN'T HELP IT.... HE HAS NO SELF CONTROL! That could be said of a few other forum members too....

You felt compelled to get your girlie POV in did you!??!

  :D :D

____ wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:37pm: ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies? Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either.... bio ethics ... you mean clone technologies, that are now healing the once sick. When Jesus saw a ill person, did he ever repair that person. And if he had to use bio ethical measures, do you think he would see this as part of the scope of your god's ability whitey?

Jesus did not teach Eugenics as an ethic, Bio Ethics is not healing the sick, its eradicating them.

Jesus did not teach social Darwinism, he did not teach survival of the fittest, the nihilistic atheist world view is a world view without kindness and hope, it is pure fatalism and has no comparison with the Jesus character, whether you believe it to be true or just part of western literature and wisdom, it refutes the defeatism of atheism as an ideology.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:58pm:

____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:44pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:37pm: ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies? Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either.... bio ethics ... you mean clone technologies, that are now healing the once sick. When Jesus saw a ill person, did he ever repair that person. And if he had to use bio ethical measures, do you think he would see this as part of the scope of your god's ability whitey? Jesus did not teach Eugenics as an ethic, Bio Ethics is not healing the sick, its eradicating them.

So how does organ transplants actuate this outcome.

This is bio-ethics.


Surrogacy, brings a baby into existence.

IVF, ditto.

and so on

Jesus did not teach how to talk about hanging innocent-until-proven-guilty politicians from bridges either!

THIS IS HOW THIS FORUM KNOWS YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT A WARMONGER IN SHEEPS CLOTHING!

HAVE A NICE DAY TRYING TO CON THE NEXT PERSON YOU MEET WHOM, BY THE WAY, CAN ALWAYS SEE YOUR HEART REFLECTED IN YOUR FACE!

NO, NO NO NO NO NO: YOU CAN'T SAY THEY DIDN'T WARN YOU YOU WOULD GO BLIND!

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Jesus did not teach social Darwinism, he did not teach survival of the fittest, the nihilistic atheist world view is a world view without kindness and hope, it is pure fatalism and has no comparison with the Jesus character, whether you believe it to be true or just part of western literature and wisdom, it refutes the defeatism of atheism as an ideology.

Why do you always fall back to the atheist default setting. Is it because you didn't understand the bases of this thread.

Look at the title. Does it state

"The Atheist Voter"

???

Now if you can't discuss the reasons surrounding the voting of christians, start you own thread on atheist voters.

____ wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:06pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:58pm: ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:44pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:37pm: ____ wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm: It takes some gall to call for the christian vote after the constant disdain you have shown for them and their values.    How unchristian it is to be ethical, honest, to promote non violence, to be everything the faux christian politicians are not. Jesus, did he push hard right policies, or Greens' policies? Jesus did not push bio ethics like you atheists do either.... bio ethics ... you mean clone technologies, that are now healing the once sick. When Jesus saw a ill person, did he ever repair that person. And if he had to use bio ethical measures, do you think he would see this as part of the scope of your god's ability whitey? Jesus did not teach Eugenics as an ethic, Bio Ethics is not healing the sick, its eradicating them. So how does organ transplants actuate this outcome. This is bio-ethics. Surrogacy, brings a baby into existence. IVF, ditto. and so on

So is survival of the fittest, market fundamentalism, biological determinism ect all an abomination in anyone's sense of justice and what is right and wrong.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 1:58pm:

Bio Ethics is not healing the sick, its eradicating them.

Bioethics is the study of the ethical and moral implications of new biological discoveries and medical technology.  Not all bioethicists are in favour of eugenics, euthanasia, abortion and so on.

Check out this link as an example if you don't believe me: http://www.cwla.org.au/articles/book-review-catholic-bioethics-for-a-new-millennium.html

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:07pm:

Jesus did not teach how to talk about hanging innocent-until-proven-guilty politicians from bridges either! THIS IS HOW THIS FORUM KNOWS YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT A WARMONGER IN SHEEPS CLOTHING! HAVE A NICE DAY TRYING TO CON THE NEXT PERSON YOU MEET WHOM, BY THE WAY, CAN ALWAYS SEE YOUR HEART REFLECTED IN YOUR FACE! NO, NO NO NO NO NO: YOU CAN'T SAY THEY DIDN'T WARN YOU YOU WOULD GO BLIND!

Where do you read that Jesus showed love for evil doers, those who persecute the sick, the weak, the hungry and the innocent?  He promises to feed them to t buzzards!!!!

Frances wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:14pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:58pm: Bio Ethics is not healing the sick, its eradicating them. Bioethics is the study of the ethical and moral implications of new biological discoveries and medical technology.  Not all bioethicists are in favour of eugenics, euthanasia, abortion and so on. Check out this link as an example if you don't believe me: http://www.cwla.org.au/articles/book-review-catholic-bioethics-for-a-new-millennium.html

Yes, they are, if they are atheists, that's all they can think about - irradiating the imperfect and weak.  They dream about it day and night while wanking over their Bio Eugenicist Quarterly....

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 2:07pm: Jesus did not teach how to talk about hanging innocent-until-proven-guilty politicians from bridges either! THIS IS HOW THIS FORUM KNOWS YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT A WARMONGER IN SHEEPS CLOTHING! HAVE A NICE DAY TRYING TO CON THE NEXT PERSON YOU MEET WHOM, BY THE WAY, CAN ALWAYS SEE YOUR HEART REFLECTED IN YOUR FACE! NO, NO NO NO NO NO: YOU CAN'T SAY THEY DIDN'T WARN YOU YOU WOULD GO BLIND! Where do you read that Jesus showed love for evil doers, those who persecute the sick, the weak, the hungry and the innocent?  He promises to feed them to t buzzards!!!!

Did Jesus believe in innocence until guilt was proven!??!

GOT YA THERE YOU MASS CON ARTIST!

ADMIT IT: I'VE SMASHED YOU OUT OF THE PARK AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO!

SO,.... EAT ME!!!  :-* :-* I'M DIRTY LIKE THAT!!!  ::) (BYE BYE LOSER WARMONGER!!  :-*  :'( :'( :'(  :-*)

corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

Frances wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 2:14pm: corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 29th, 2012 at 1:58pm: Bio Ethics is not healing the sick, its eradicating them. Bioethics is the study of the ethical and moral implications of new biological discoveries and medical technology.  Not all bioethicists are in favour of eugenics, euthanasia, abortion and so on. Check out this link as an example if you don't believe me: http://www.cwla.org.au/articles/book-review-catholic-bioethics-for-a-new-millennium.html Yes, they are, if they are atheists, that's all they can think about - irradiating the imperfect and weak.  They dream about it day and night while wanking over their Bio Eugenicist Quarterly....

....is corporate whitey saying he doesn't believe in science?

  ::) ::)

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

....is corporate whitey saying he doesn't believe in science?

Maybe he's just been irradiated a few too many times.

Equating science with the Gas chambers is where the rubber leaves the road as far as I am concerned.  Ideological atheism and science are incompatible.

What about wash chambers corpulant? You know that countless millions of socks have come to a grim fate in them don't you? Aren't you afraid that wash day is coming?

Only Atheists should be allowed to vote..believing in magical fairies is a sure sign that religious people shouldn't be trusted with any responsibility

Only people who have the accepted inherited values passed down through thousands of years of Western Civilization should be allowed to vote - ideological Atheists have no place in Politics or voting, in fact they have no rational reason for voting.