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Message started by Awesome on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:23pm

Title: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Awesome on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:23pm
A NSW Labor frontbencher has admitted the opposition could lose the eastern Sydney seat of Heffron in a by-election following the resignation of former premier Kristina Keneally.

PARLIAMENTARY Speaker Shelley Hancock has accepted Ms Keneally's resignation, filed on Friday, but is yet to set a by-election date.

"Details of the by-election for the electoral district of Heffron will be announced shortly, following consultation with the electoral commissioners and party leaders," she said in a statement on Monday.

Opposition treasury spokesman Michael Daley, who holds the neighbouring seat of Maroubra, said Labor could lose the seat it has held since 1973.

"Yes, it could lose the seat," Mr Daley told AAP on Monday.

"I don't want to start speculating on a worst-case scenario.

"It would be safe to say the Labor Party itself is in a difficult time - this will be a test for Labor."

But Mr Daley, who is touted as a future Labor leader, said he would stay loyal to opposition leader John Robertson regardless of the by-election result.

"John Robertson is the leader. There's no challenge to him before or after the election," he said.

Former state government adviser Michael Comninos and Botany Bay mayor Ron Hoenig are expected to vie for Labor preselection.

The Liberal Party, which managed a 15 per cent swing against Ms Keneally at the 2011 state election, is yet to declare if if will run a candidate.

Ms Keneally held the seat with a seven per cent margin.

A new government hasn't picked up a seat from the opposition, following the resignation of a former premier, since Liberal Eric Willis quit parliament in July 1978, handing his once-safe seat of Earlwood to Labor.

Mr Daley and Marrickville Labor MP Carmel Tebbutt are sharing parliamentary duties in Heffron until a by-election result is declared.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/labor-could-lose-nsw-by-election-daley/story-e6frfku9-1226414602756#ixzz1zR5Xlj6f

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:24pm
What a revelation. Next stop, federal labor.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Doctor Jolly on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.


Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Doctor Jolly on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:53pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.

I am proud to be in a very large portion of Australians that are muppets.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Gist on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:04pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:53pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.

I am proud to be in a very large portion of Australians that are muppets.


Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by john_g on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm

Gist wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:53pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.

I am proud to be in a very large portion of Australians that are muppets.


That kid is too cute to be me. I am more in the middle of the kid and Gist below


Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Grey on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:06pm

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


Yes what a joy to look forwards too, PM Abbott the most awesomely stupid candidate the RW has ever produced since... well George Bush I guess. But they do keep lowering the bar. At this rate I'll live to see the election of a RW leader with full blown Alzheimer's.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Gist on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:10pm

Grey wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:06pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


Yes what a joy to look forwards too, PM Abbott the most awesomely stupid candidate the RW has ever produced since... well George Bush I guess. But they do keep lowering the bar. At this rate I'll live to see the election of a RW leader with full blown Alzheimer's.


Do you mean in this country Grey? Because USA has already been there done that with Reagan.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Doctor Jolly on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:12pm

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


if he's PM, his political life is at its zenith, and he doesnt have to do anything.  Denying climate change is just a vehicle for him, not a fundamental view.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by TheGreenLight on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:38pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:12pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


if he's PM, his political life is at its zenith, and he doesnt have to do anything.  Denying climate change is just a vehicle for him, not a fundamental view.


I'm sorry to say I disagree with you. Abbott has the potential to be PM for many years if he repeals the carbon tax at this point, because the electorate is too stupid and ignorant to understand how important it is for our future. He probably will repeal it, as sad as that may be. I had hope that the electorate would wake up to the Coalition, but it just isn't going to happen. The election is approaching nearer and nearer, and Labor just isn't making any ground.  :(

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:41pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:38pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:12pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


if he's PM, his political life is at its zenith, and he doesnt have to do anything.  Denying climate change is just a vehicle for him, not a fundamental view.


I'm sorry to say I disagree with you. Abbott has the potential to be PM for many years if he repeals the carbon tax at this point, because the electorate is too stupid and ignorant to understand how important it is for our future. He probably will repeal it, as sad as that may be. I had hope that the electorate would wake up to the Coalition, but it just isn't going to happen. The election is approaching nearer and nearer, and Labor just isn't making any ground.  :(

hehe not surprised by the "stupid electorate" statement. It is only a matter of time before we hear that from the leaders in greens and labor.

Denial and disrespect. We get the disrespect part "the carbon tax and I dont give a shi.. what you say", but the denial is a little hard to watch.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by John Smith on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 6:13pm
he won't repeal anything ... big business is already stating that if he does they will want compensation, compensation he can't afford ... and so they should ... how can anyone run a business when every time a new party gets in all they want to do is undo what the previous party did .... time for abbott to accept that he lost this battle and move on .....

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 6:32pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.


Carbon tax cant be undone??? you are so precious... so delusional...

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by TheGreenLight on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 7:14pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:41pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:38pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:12pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


if he's PM, his political life is at its zenith, and he doesnt have to do anything.  Denying climate change is just a vehicle for him, not a fundamental view.


I'm sorry to say I disagree with you. Abbott has the potential to be PM for many years if he repeals the carbon tax at this point, because the electorate is too stupid and ignorant to understand how important it is for our future. He probably will repeal it, as sad as that may be. I had hope that the electorate would wake up to the Coalition, but it just isn't going to happen. The election is approaching nearer and nearer, and Labor just isn't making any ground.  :(

hehe not surprised by the "stupid electorate" statement. It is only a matter of time before we hear that from the leaders in greens and labor.

Denial and disrespect. We get the disrespect part "the carbon tax and I dont give a shi.. what you say", but the denial is a little hard to watch.


It's true. Labor and the Greens are standing up to climate change. The Liberals and Nationals are running away from it, and ignoring it. Just plain stupid. I know many people like this, including my own ex-wife. They call me stupid for supporting the Greens and Labor, but trust me, they (including you) are the stupid ones.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 7:30pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 7:14pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:41pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 5:38pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 4:12pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:46pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:37pm:
For me, labor surviving federally has becomes less of an issue.

We have finally got a carbon price, which cant be undone, and the liberals have said they will now back the NBN.

NBN and carbon price is locked in no matter which party governs.  Australia is at peace.

Good. So then you wont mind if we get rid of the carbon tax. Atleast you were happy at one time or another.


Anyone who thinks Abbott will get rid of the carbon tax is a muppet.

He cant anyway.


What the Parliament can do, the Parliament can undo.

Abbott will repeal it. His political life depends on it.


if he's PM, his political life is at its zenith, and he doesnt have to do anything.  Denying climate change is just a vehicle for him, not a fundamental view.


I'm sorry to say I disagree with you. Abbott has the potential to be PM for many years if he repeals the carbon tax at this point, because the electorate is too stupid and ignorant to understand how important it is for our future. He probably will repeal it, as sad as that may be. I had hope that the electorate would wake up to the Coalition, but it just isn't going to happen. The election is approaching nearer and nearer, and Labor just isn't making any ground.  :(

hehe not surprised by the "stupid electorate" statement. It is only a matter of time before we hear that from the leaders in greens and labor.

Denial and disrespect. We get the disrespect part "the carbon tax and I dont give a shi.. what you say", but the denial is a little hard to watch.


It's true. Labor and the Greens are standing up to climate change. The Liberals and Nationals are running away from it, and ignoring it. Just plain stupid. I know many people like this, including my own ex-wife. They call me stupid for supporting the Greens and Labor, but trust me, they (including you) are the stupid ones.

;D ;D ;D
That is so funny.

The its not me, its everyone else defence.

Maybe one day you will wake up and say "I now know what delusional means"
Its everyone else, its not me.

So so funny, thanks


Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Grey on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:14pm
Be Right - be a lemming.

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:33pm

Grey wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:14pm:
Be Right - be a lemming.


Right and left is a stupid argument.

Here I agree with The right wing on most things but at home I vote for Barak and Labor and am more Left.

So what does that tell you?

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Frances on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:43pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:53pm:
I am proud to be in a very large portion of Australians that are muppets.


58% if you believe the last poll.....

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 3rd, 2012 at 10:02am

Frances wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:53pm:
I am proud to be in a very large portion of Australians that are muppets.


58% if you believe the last poll.....


and majority opinion means nothing to you?

Title: Re: Labor MP admits Labor could lose by-election
Post by Grey on Jul 5th, 2012 at 10:33pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:33pm:

Grey wrote on Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:14pm:
Be Right - be a lemming.


Right and left is a stupid argument.

Here I agree with The right wing on most things but at home I vote for Barak and Labor and am more Left.

So what does that tell you?


Israelis are fascists.

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