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Message started by Maqqa on Jul 10th, 2012 at 10:11am

Title: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Maqqa on Jul 10th, 2012 at 10:11am
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/14173325/no-lift-for-alp-after-carbon-tax-hand-outs/


The Greens' primary vote fell a percentage point to 11 per cent, which gives the Coalition an election-winning two-party-preferred lead of 56 per cent to 44 per cent.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 10th, 2012 at 10:35am



They should be into single digits as soon as the less stupid greens supporters realise that having recalcitrant morons with the balance of power is not such a good idea.


Just like one nation they will be nothing more than a punch line to a bad joke.



Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 10th, 2012 at 4:50pm
Youd have to be very concerned as a Greens supporter if in the best circumstances in all of political history (labor losing 8+% of its primary vote) they cannot pick up a single vote. In face it appears that they too have lost votes. Just imagine in about 10 yeras time when labor is polling well again. Where do you think the votes are coming from? THE GREENS.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:22pm
bybe bye greens. you wont be missed.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 30th, 2012 at 6:42pm
bump

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by adelcrow on Jul 30th, 2012 at 6:50pm
Wow its the same as the last election ..thats gonna mean they lose..no seats  ;D

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:22pm
Wernt the greens polling 14% at last election but got 11% of votes.

Looks like they might be up for single digit votes at election. lol cya, wouldnt wanna b ya.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
bybe bye greens. you wont be missed.


I voted Green in the last election because I
had to try & keep the bastards honest & it worked.
Neither Labor nor Libbos could always have their own despot ways.

I hope the Greens get the balance & stuff Tony up next time.



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Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Upton Sinclair on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:45pm
Do you guys know what a margin of error is? When I clock up another 5 posts and am allowed to post links I'll show you what one is and why you can't read polls.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by freediver on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:48pm
This reminds me of frost this morning, therefore no global warming.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:55pm

freediver wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:48pm:
This reminds me of frost this morning, therefore no global warming.

Or drought, therefore global warming

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Shane B on Jul 30th, 2012 at 10:01pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:48pm:
This reminds me of frost this morning, therefore no global warming.

Or drought, therefore global warming


Red sky in the morning, look out! - global warming

Red sky at night, carbon footprint light


Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Mnemonic on Jul 30th, 2012 at 11:19pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 10th, 2012 at 10:35am:
They should be into single digits as soon as the less stupid greens supporters realise that having recalcitrant morons with the balance of power is not such a good idea.

Just like one nation they will be nothing more than a punch line to a bad joke.


I was thinking of the Democrats. I haven't heard much about them since Natasha Stott Despoja gave up the leadership.


longweekend58 wrote on Jul 10th, 2012 at 4:50pm:
Just imagine in about 10 yeras time when labor is polling well again. Where do you think the votes are coming from? THE GREENS.


It's all Kevin Rudd's fault. He proposed far-fetched policies and now look what's happened. It's like a huge bubble bursting. It's like the collapse of Lehman Brothers. People realised there were problems brewing underneath unseen by the general public. His ideas were so fantastic they could never have been implemented. Behind closed doors was bullying and harassment. His management style was destructive and damaging to the people he led.

But ........ oh well, it isn't actually so bad for Labor. Two terms isn't that bad. Time flies. The Coalition got three terms from 1996 to 2007. Or ..... was it four? Oh yeah it was four. Darn. Disappointing.


Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:25pm:
I voted Green in the last election because I
had to try & keep the bastards honest & it worked.
Neither Labor nor Libbos could always have their own despot ways.

I hope the Greens get the balance & stuff Tony up next time.


How dare you desecrate and deface Tony Abbott's picture and make him look like Adolf Hitler. Tony Abbott is an idiot but he doesn't deserve to be demonised and compared to the Patriarch of the Nazis. >:(

EDIT: spelling corrections

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jul 30th, 2012 at 11:26pm

Quote:
How dare you desecrate and deface Tony Abbott's picture and make him look like Adolf Hitler. Tony Abbott is an idiot but he doesn't deserve to be demonised and compared to the Patriarch of the Nazis.



They are all just liars to me.


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Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by cods on Jul 31st, 2012 at 8:44am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
bybe bye greens. you wont be missed.


I voted Green in the last election because I
had to try & keep the bastards honest & it worked.
Neither Labor nor Libbos could always have their own despot ways.

I hope the Greens get the balance & stuff Tony up next time.





so you admit thats all they are good for to stuff up the govt..

well said for a moron.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 31st, 2012 at 10:14am

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:45pm:
Do you guys know what a margin of error is? When I clock up another 5 posts and am allowed to post links I'll show you what one is and why you can't read polls.


that should be entertaining. most people who refer to margin of error try to use it to explain why labor isnt in fact way behind despite the historicaly evidence that newspoll's ACTUAL margin of error is about 1.1% not the 3% typically assigned such polls.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Upton Sinclair on Jul 31st, 2012 at 12:26pm
So, calculating the mean for the last 12 months of Newspoll data the Greens average at 12% support. Can the OP please explain how a drop of 1% on a 12-month average with a 3% margin of error translates into the Greens vote being "crushed"?

I'm assuming I shouldn't hold my breath waiting for an answer?

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Upton Sinclair on Jul 31st, 2012 at 12:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 10:14am:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:45pm:
Do you guys know what a margin of error is? When I clock up another 5 posts and am allowed to post links I'll show you what one is and why you can't read polls.


that should be entertaining. most people who refer to margin of error try to use it to explain why labor isnt in fact way behind despite the historicaly evidence that newspoll's ACTUAL margin of error is about 1.1% not the 3% typically assigned such polls.


What have Labor got to do with a thread on the Greens polling? And, assuming that you are correct with the 1.1% margin of error you've ascribed to Newspoll, can you please explain how a drop of 1% from a 12-month running average translates into the Greens vote being "crushed"? That's still well within the margin of error and is statistically insignificant. and that's assuming that your 1.1% figure is indeed accurate, which a quick Google suggests that it isn't :)

From ABC AM:


Quote:
The Newspoll survey shows the party's primary vote has dropped to 28 per cent. The Coalition is now up to 47 per cent. That's a change of four percentage points in two weeks and the result is just outside the margin of error, which is 3 percentage points.

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 31st, 2012 at 9:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 12th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
bybe bye greens. you wont be missed.


I voted Green in the last election because I
had to try & keep the bastards honest & it worked.
Neither Labor nor Libbos could always have their own despot ways.

I hope the Greens get the balance & stuff Tony up next time.


I'm not so sure - Gillard lied her way into the Prime Ministership...

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by John Smith on Jul 31st, 2012 at 9:13pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 12:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 10:14am:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:45pm:
Do you guys know what a margin of error is? When I clock up another 5 posts and am allowed to post links I'll show you what one is and why you can't read polls.


that should be entertaining. most people who refer to margin of error try to use it to explain why labor isnt in fact way behind despite the historicaly evidence that newspoll's ACTUAL margin of error is about 1.1% not the 3% typically assigned such polls.


What have Labor got to do with a thread on the Greens polling? And, assuming that you are correct with the 1.1% margin of error you've ascribed to Newspoll, can you please explain how a drop of 1% from a 12-month running average translates into the Greens vote being "crushed"? That's still well within the margin of error and is statistically insignificant. and that's assuming that your 1.1% figure is indeed accurate, which a quick Google suggests that it isn't :)

From ABC AM:


Quote:
The Newspoll survey shows the party's primary vote has dropped to 28 per cent. The Coalition is now up to 47 per cent. That's a change of four percentage points in two weeks and the result is just outside the margin of error, which is 3 percentage points.


you'll learn that longstupidone likes to make up 'facts' (it's the voices in his head that confuse him) , and then when he is confronted with the truth, he'll either change the conversation to something else or ignore you altogether ....

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 31st, 2012 at 9:15pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 12:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 31st, 2012 at 10:14am:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:45pm:
Do you guys know what a margin of error is? When I clock up another 5 posts and am allowed to post links I'll show you what one is and why you can't read polls.


that should be entertaining. most people who refer to margin of error try to use it to explain why labor isnt in fact way behind despite the historicaly evidence that newspoll's ACTUAL margin of error is about 1.1% not the 3% typically assigned such polls.


What have Labor got to do with a thread on the Greens polling? And, assuming that you are correct with the 1.1% margin of error you've ascribed to Newspoll, can you please explain how a drop of 1% from a 12-month running average translates into the Greens vote being "crushed"? That's still well within the margin of error and is statistically insignificant. and that's assuming that your 1.1% figure is indeed accurate, which a quick Google suggests that it isn't :)

From ABC AM:


Quote:
The Newspoll survey shows the party's primary vote has dropped to 28 per cent. The Coalition is now up to 47 per cent. That's a change of four percentage points in two weeks and the result is just outside the margin of error, which is 3 percentage points.


Well, the Greens never had that many votes to begin with, did they???  ;D

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Prevailing on Aug 1st, 2012 at 1:39am
Australian citizens have a legal & constitutional right to defend themselves against corporate economic aggression, abuse of the power of the state and any attempt to impose social law and ideology on them...so be careful Beavis & Butthead and know your role... :D :D

Title: Re: Greens crashed in the polls
Post by Verge on Aug 1st, 2012 at 10:15am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 30th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
Wow its the same as the last election ..thats gonna mean they lose..no seats  ;D


Considering the ALP has tanked, I would consider it a failure.

The Greens call themselves an alternative yet cant pick up disaffected voters.

If they were such a great alternative, they would have picked up the ALP voters who are walking away in disgust.  Instead they would rather go to a party with Abbott in control.  Says a lot really.

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