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Title: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by salad in on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm

Quote:

'Damaged' asylum boat found by Indonesian search vessels

INDONESIAN authorities have found a boat carrying about 60 asylum-seekers that had broken down and started taking on water while on its way to Australia.

The boat was found adrift in waters between Bali and Java this morning by the Indonesian search and rescue agency Basarnas.

Those on board, believed to be Iraqis and Iranians, told authorities they had been drifting for three days with engine trouble.

“We located them this morning at 5am near Madura Island in the Bali Sea,” said Surabaya Basarnas chief Sutrisno.

The boat issued a distress call last night but a search for the vessel was initially called off because of poor light.

Those aboard the boat also contacted the ABC overnight, saying they wanted to go to Australia and expressing concern that Indonesian search and rescue authorities were trying to locate them.

“We found them in a damaged boat,” Sutrisno said.

“We're going to take them to Surabaya so that immigration officials can deal with them.”

One passenger told the ABC that the boat was taking on water.

“The pump doesn't work. The water is coming in the boat,” one passenger said.

In another call, the ABC said had contacted Indonesian search and rescue authorities.

“Why?” one passenger said.

“I come to Australia. No, no, no.”

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority was alerted to the emergency just after midnight but Basarnas officials rejected offers of assistance.

Additional reporting: AAP

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/new-search-for-asylum-boat-in-distress-in-indonesian-waters/story-fn9hm1gu-1226435365579

And we were told it was not possible.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by John Smith on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:18pm

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Quote:

And we were told it was not possible.

It was found in Indonesian waters by the Indonesians ... has nothing to do with turning the boats back ... talk about desperate!!!!!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:29pm

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:46pm

lets drown all refugees by towing them back, yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:49pm

Whats the bet they are on another boat before the week is out..and wheres the bit about being towed back?
yep worked a treat ;D

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:52pm

It would be a shame if there were all these prank calls to save us in a leaky boat, only to find there was no-one there. I mean, to waste recourses like that would be terrible.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:53pm

let's kill people and be proud doing it!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:56pm

[quote author=725357425E445F525345575E59444553360 link=1343301211/6#6 date=1343368424]let's kill people and be proud doing it!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[/quote]
You really have latched onto the greens boat people policy. Your back must be aching so bad.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:58pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

progs can't believe Australians now know the people who get towed back are left to drown and yet he still believes we believe he can look his kids in the eye when he tells them he voted for exactly that!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:03pm

When you have a chance ring your local pollie and ask if you can come along to a citizenship ceremony. There you will see dozens of these evil illegals proudly becoming Aussies and celebrating their new lives.
Put real people and families into the picture instead of nightly news bites and opposition hate mongering and you will quickly change your mind about these people.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:16pm

The Predator Self Defense Solution To Cross Border Offenders...
:D

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

where is whitey with his 'let's hang all boat-people from the sydney harbour bridge' solution????

The moderators should be ashamed of themselves for letting him get away with that one!!

I, for one, demand an apology for the bloodthirsty comments allowed by some and not others on this forum!!

::) ::)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

You comin down.

Coherency is a good indicator

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm

Australia has a legal right to defend its borders and protect its citizens from illegal invasion and the legal right to use force - lethal force if necessary to do it. We can use Predator Drones as a border security measure to enforce our rights. 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:10pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

But you will cry if they are sent to Malaysia because it is so unfair.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:15pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:10pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

But you will cry if they are sent to Malaysia because it is so unfair.

Whitey is nuts..you wont get a decent conversation out of him

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:10pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

But you will cry if they are sent to Malaysia because it is so unfair.

Not if the Government makes it clear it is relocating illegal immigrants and removes our signature from any international treaties which might prohibit that. The pacific solution is clean, the only way to make the Malaysia solution clean is to withdraw from the UNHCR Convention. Just do it. 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 5:31pm

Sorry...I forgot, the Malaysia solution is a people swap deal - unacceptable. No solution which forces Australia into a position of having to accept any form of immigration is acceptable. Our borders must be defended, not bartered for. 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Quote:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. :)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. ODS

It has always been possible for sinking boats in Indonesian waters to be rescued by Indonesia.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:56pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. ODS

It has always been possible for sinking boats in Indonesian waters to be rescued by Indonesia.

Maybe, but they are very good at crying poor and saying they don't have enough naval vessels to patrol all of Indonesia's islands.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:03pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. ODS

It has always been possible for sinking boats in Indonesian waters to be rescued by Indonesia.

Maybe, but they are very good at crying poor and saying they don't have enough naval vessels to patrol all of Indonesia's islands.

Do you think that Australia could patrol all of our waters?

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 7:56am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:56pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. ODS

It has always been possible for sinking boats in Indonesian waters to be rescued by Indonesia.

Maybe, but they are very good at crying poor and saying they don't have enough naval vessels to patrol all of Indonesia's islands.

Do you think that Australia could patrol all of our waters?

Australia doesn't need to patrol all of it's waters.
The threat lies in the north and west only.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by John Smith on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:18am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Quote:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. :)

Back who goes? the boat was found by the Indonesians in Indonesian waters .... nobody went back anywhere, they were already there ... this has absolutely nothing to do with turning back boats .....

do you people have comprehension problems?

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 6:56pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

Yeh, well lucky no ones is voting for your party then!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 7:07pm

I am not here to be your friend - I am here fighting Nazi scum who trying to rip this country inside out and waging undeclared civil war! ::)

Australian citizens have a legal right to secure borders - and to defend those borders just do it or lose it....
8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:06pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 7:07pm:

Good luck pushing a population that has 240 million!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:20pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 7:07pm:

Good luck pushing a population that has 240 million!

Australia reserves for itself the right to ,make a preemptive strike against any confirmed security threat in the region. :) :)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:25pm

Hey, it's all politics!!

Good luck selling it ....

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:27pm

No - its Legal. 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:29pm

Isn't war legal if you declare it??

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. :P

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by John Smith on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:59pm

Yes, the boats can be turned back

but only if Abbott gets in his speedos, swims into Darwin harbor waving his placards at them as they come in ...

they're sure to turn around at the sight of him ....

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 9:28pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. ODS

defend yourself against aggression

Refugees asking for help is too agressive?

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 9:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Quote:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. :)

What, you think the Indon's are going to put these monkeybums up at the Jakarta Hilton and send government cheques to the door?
You really think there not going anywhere?
Think again.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:13am

Regional Ports from which illegal people smuggling operations take place that breach Australian security are legitimate military targets that can be hit. Countries in the region must be held responsible for human movement activities thought their country to ours. They have to close down the smuggling activity or we can do it. People smuggling is a dire regional security threat... 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by John Smith on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 9:00am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:45pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Quote:

And we were told it was not possible.

Back you go monkeybums. :)

What, you think the Indon's are going to put these monkeybums up at the Jakarta Hilton and send government cheques to the door?
You really think there not going anywhere?
Think again.

maybe you could try that in english and leave the monkeys in your bedroom ... the indo's found a stricken indo boat in indo waters ... who exactly turned the boats? are you really stupid or are you just preteding to be?

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:05am

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:13am:

People smuggling is a dire regional security threat...

What a load of rubbish, a few refugees asking for help is a dire regional security threat.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by salad in on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:47am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

lets drown all refugees by towing them back, yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

How many were drowned during the rescue operation? Was it 20? Perhaps 36? Please don't be mean and share your information with us. Please inform the debate.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by salad in on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:49am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:05am:

What a load of rubbish, a few refugees asking for help is a dire regional security threat.

Please be factual. ALLEGED REFUGEES is the correct term.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:40pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:13am:

What can be done and what should be done are two different things.

I'm glad you're not it charge of our nation.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. :P

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!
:D :D

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 4:54pm

salad in wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:49am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 10:05am:

What a load of rubbish, a few refugees asking for help is a dire regional security threat.

Please be factual. ALLEGED REFUGEES is the correct term.

People smuggling is a dire regional security threat...

Please be factual

Ditto.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. :P

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!
:D :D

You are pissing on the grave of every digger that defended this countries borders against the Japanese and drove them back to Tokyo - you are the nut, of course we can defend our country - the age of entitlement to country shop without due process is over... :) :)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Dnarever on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:23pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. :P

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!
:D :D

What Rubbish the diggers were never trying to keep refugees out - many would be disgusted by our behaviour.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:43pm

... ::) ::)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:47pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. :P

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!
:D :D

What you call 'defense' is not what I call 'defense'.

So, I say again, good luck selling your bullshite!! ;) ;)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:23pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 30^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

We are not talking about a war, just defending our territorial security - you do not have to declare war to defend yourself against aggression. :P

you're a nut mate: good luck selling your bullshite!!
:D :D

What Rubbish the diggers were never trying to keep refugees out - many would be disgusted by our behaviour.

lucky no one votes for his political party then ay!!!! ::) ::)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:22pm

::) ::)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:50pm

prevailing is a war monger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm

Self defense is not being a warmonger. starting wars for corporations like you do for oil in far off lands is being a warmonger - I have no interest in a war with countries that pose no security or border risk to Australia...In fact war is the lat thing I want - self defense is the only reason to justify it...we have a legal right to defend ourselves against external pressures...its a constitutional right... 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:04pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Diplomacy.
The language of cowards.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:04pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Diplomacy.
The language of cowards.

Where's your flag gone, softie???? :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:16pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Yes but you dont really mean diplomacy - you mean appeasement..its people like you who make war inevitable and kill hundreds of millions of people 0- never negotiate away your right for peace. You want peace - stop demanding my lunch money... >:( :P

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:18pm

"Why should people on the Left, and I'll remind people that is the side of politics from whence I came, say that we should never intervene militarily?
I mean I can't understand why people would ever say that - we are talking here about countries in which the people are brutally repressed. This was the case in Afghanistan and it was the case in Iraq, don't tell me it wasn't.

The way we should look at it, is that it is our right and our duty to spread democracy and freedom. Why?
Because it is states that are repressed, that are dictatorial, that give their people no freedom, that don't allow them to exercise their democratic rights that in my experience and judgement are exactly the states which threaten and end up invading their neighbours.

Look no further than Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

Tony Blair, British Prime Minister
White House Garden, 2005.

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Prevailing on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:23pm

Its not our right to spread anything - its our right to defend ourselves. Australia has no legal right to wage war to spread "democracy"...that right doesn't exist and no war for this cause is legal or legitimate. You must be defending your own security from aggression to legitimately defend yourself and wage war under Australian and international law... ::)

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:43pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:18pm:

IT'S ALL IN THE TIMING ;D ;D

Title: Re: Yes, the boats can be turned back
Post by John Smith on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:53pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:04pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:22pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

yEH, :o :o :o :o go drowning poor people!! ::)

What makes you think we do not have the legal right to border and economic security and freedom from external pressure & aggression?

There is a thing called diplomacy: it stops warrior types like you from taking power as you haven't got the brains to contemplate it!!

Diplomacy.
The language of cowards.

this coming from the one hiding in Australia while his homeland is under threat from the naughty arabs ....