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Message started by Shane B on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:18am

Title: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Shane B on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:18am
We can see clearly now through transparency lie

THE Greens have exposed themselves as just another political party.

Years of principled advocacy for transparency in government through broad Freedom of Information laws were jettisoned yesterday when Greens leader Christine Milne backed a Treasury decision to refuse the FOI release of taxpayer-funded costings of her own policies.

If such costings could be obtained under FOI, Senator Milne said, it would mean parties would be unable to "get a reliable costing to make a decision". The comment was neither logical nor consistent with the Greens long-claimed devotion to openness.

Also short on logic is the commonwealth's decision to keep the Greens' costings secret. How on earth could a Treasury costing of the policy of a party that is not even part of the government qualify for FOI exemption on the basis that it is a cabinet document or somehow forms part of the deliberative process of cabinet?

Taxpayers funded this work and ought to have a right to access what they paid for.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/we-can-see-clearly-now-through-transparency-lie/story-e6frgd0x-1226436174218

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:20am
Does this mean the Libs and Nats are going to finally release fully costed policies?

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Shane B on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:21am
What have the Greens got to hide?

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:26am

Shane B wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:21am:
What have the Greens got to hide?


What has Abbott got to hide?

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Gist on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:40am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Shane B wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:21am:
What have the Greens got to hide?


What has Abbott got to hide?


C'mon adel, don't be like that. Abbott has NOTHING to hide.

If he ever gets policies .. well then... THEN he'll have something to hide.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:42am

Gist wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:40am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Shane B wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:21am:
What have the Greens got to hide?


What has Abbott got to hide?


C'mon adel, don't be like that. Abbott has NOTHING to hide.

If he ever gets policies .. well then... THEN he'll have something to hide.


We all know what the Greens policies are, before and after each election but what are Abbotts policies and where are the costings so we can all make an informed decision.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Prevailing on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:47am
The Greens do not advocate for environmental protectionism anymore they are lobbyists for the dissolution of the Australian nation state and represent as foreign agents.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Dnarever on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:47am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 9:20am:
Does this mean the Libs and Nats are going to finally release fully costed policies?



The Liberals have no costings, everyone knows that.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Dnarever on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:53am
I don't recall any party ever releasing policy costings with the exception of election promises in an election campaign.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:00am
lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:02am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:00am:
lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.


Show me where the Greens have lied like Gillard and Abbott

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Prevailing on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:08am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:02am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:00am:
lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.


Show me where the Greens have lied like Gillard and Abbott

calling themselves an environmental protection party... :o ;D :D :o

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Shane B on Jul 27th, 2012 at 1:24pm
Bump for Greens_Lose

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Guildford on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:34pm
my money is on labor releasing these costings when it is politically expedient to do so

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:34pm

Guildford wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:34pm:
my money is on labour releasing these costings when it is politically expedient to do so

accidental of course or at least untraceable to who.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:42pm
When I see Tony the Rat's costings I'll worry about the Greens costings.
Mind you..no ones expecting the Greens to grab power at the next election but the Libs are telling us they are much better than the present govt and will be in power the day after the next election without giving us all of their alternative policies and costings

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:57pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 11:00am:
lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.

progs reckoned Howard was small govt, lol!

  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Even Hockey said they were con artists!!  :-[

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:58pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
[quote author=3B252B2F212424480 link=1343344724/9#9 date=1343350805]lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.

progs reckoned Howard was small govt, lol!

  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Even Hockey said they were con artists!!  :-[/quote]

Even their own kind said they were mean and tricky  ;D

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:58pm

Guildford wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:34pm:
my money is on labor releasing these costings when it is politically expedient to do so


word of the day: lets all go smoke some crack and practise the english language!!

  :D :D

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by adelcrow on Jul 27th, 2012 at 3:00pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Guildford wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:34pm:
my money is on labor releasing these costings when it is politically expedient to do so


word of the day: lets all go smoke some crack and practise the english language!!

  :D :D


Tony says


Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 27th, 2012 at 3:05pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:58pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
[quote author=3B252B2F212424480 link=1343344724/9#9 date=1343350805]lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.

progs reckoned Howard was small govt, lol!

  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Even Hockey said they were con artists!!  :-[/quote]

Even their own kind said they were mean and tricky  ;D

-->such irreconcilable hypocrisy makes our broken system ripe for attack: hence 9-11!

Nuclear Weapons have proven impotent...........

Evolution has spoken and says this shite won't cut it!!

Wealthfare: lol, i thought EFFICIENCY BRED SUCCESS?!!!!?

  :o :o :o :o :o

GO BUSINESS ACUMEN, YEH: RUN GOVT LIKE A BUSINESS  YADA YADA YADA YEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

  :D :D :D THE SILVER SPOONERS DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THEIR OWN SHITE!!!

NO FRIENDS AMONGST HIGHWAY ROBBERS I SUPPOSE  ::)

80% mining profits go offshore: c'mon aussie!!  :-/

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by progressiveslol on Jul 27th, 2012 at 3:09pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
[quote author=3B252B2F212424480 link=1343344724/9#9 date=1343350805]lol the greens exposed. Well its settled then. There is no moral party.

progs reckoned Howard was small govt, lol!

  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Even Hockey said they were con artists!!  :-[/quote]
that would be true......


if I acutally said it, but it isnt true, because I didnt say it.

Title: Re: The Greens are Liars and Hypocrites
Post by cods on Jul 27th, 2012 at 5:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 27th, 2012 at 10:53am:
I don't recall any party ever releasing policy costings with the exception of election promises in an election campaign.



the OP is about FOI... I dont recall any other party voting against  FOI on their costings.. could be wrong of course I not being so worldly as those on here.

but I do find it strange that a party that is soooooooo perfect doesnt have a thing to hide...

is full of shite about other parties..

well?????

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