Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 5:38am:

Quote: Why are you lefties and 'collectivists' so offended by a simple truth ? Why would you call me a "lefty" and what is a "collectivist"? Your definition please. SOB

Dictionary;
collectivism = = the practice or principle of giving the group priority, over each individual in it.


Collectivism is 'lawful' thievery [of rights, of liberty, and of the property], from individuals, by the group.

Collectivism is justified on the grounds that the interests of the group, override the interests of any individual.





Why collectivism is antithetical to liberty is argued [and demonstrated in that argument, imo] in the 1st of these two simple video presentations.

Pt1 The Nature and Origin of Human Rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=MkSHg3JV_V8


Gun Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=8RoMqB0VU4U




More, on what is WRONG! with 'collectivism'...



Yadda said....

Quote:

"I can imagine that some may argue, that societal laws should protect the majority, and NOT specifically, the individual. I disagree, strongly!! If the detail of the law protects the rights of every individual, THEN AUTOMATICALLY, the interests of every person [of the majority], are also protected."

The meaning of God
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1310829488/11#11


John Locke 1632-1704
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1242692863/0#0

You are one confused lil girl yadda.

You judge all muslims the same and twist around and accuse me of "collectivism"? Im the one saying they arent all the same!

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:39pm:

You are one confused lil girl yadda. You judge all muslims the same and twist around and accuse me of "collectivism"? Im the one saying they arent all the same! SOB

'All moslems', 'all moslems' ???


How are all moslems the same ???


All moslems, because they are moslems, subscribe [are in agreement] to this;



"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



AND THIS...


FROM ISLAMIC LAW

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b. "Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."




AND THIS...


'Take no apostates as friends. And when apostates oppose you [in Allah's way], kill them.'
Koran 4.88, 89








Q.
How are all moslems the same ???

A.
A moslem,  IS A MOSLEM.



Google;
Shahada, confession of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:39pm:

You are one confused lil girl yadda. You judge all muslims the same and twist around and accuse me of "collectivism"? Im the one saying they arent all the same! SOB

SPOT,

I see that you are still struggling with what is apparent [i.e. the truth], and choosing to reject it.