Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805


Quote:

"The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters.

So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . .

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB

No, I do not believe in negotiating for peace with my enemies... ;D ;D ;D

Prevailing wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB No, I do not believe in negotiating for peace with my enemies... ;D ;D ;D

Rather just kill them all and let the fairy king sort them out?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:01am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB No, I do not believe in negotiating for peace with my enemies... ;D ;D ;D Rather just kill them all and let the fairy king sort them out? SOB

Nope, just keep my eye on the other truckers and defend myself as needed...no peace.... :) :)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB

Yes, the PALESTINIANS have always considered it an occupation...

However, if you want to 'prove' that Israel considers it the same....you'll need to find a quote from an Israeli official..

There is not a occupation.

The UN Resolution was voted down on this issue.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

There is not a occupation. The UN Resolution was voted down on this issue.

But it is obvious that there is because israel is occupying west bank.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 2:22pm: There is not a occupation. The UN Resolution was voted down on this issue. But it is obvious that there is because israel is occupying west bank. SOB

Yes, and it's 'obvious' that you hate Israel...just because they're jews....

no,

these are khazars

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

no, these are khazars namaste

This is antisemitic propaganda - yes they are Jews... :) :)

yes and ignorance is forgiven,

i have this on divine authority

and so it is extended unto thee

namaste

-:)

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:49pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 2:22pm: There is not a occupation. The UN Resolution was voted down on this issue. But it is obvious that there is because israel is occupying west bank. SOB Yes, and it's 'obvious' that you hate Israel...just because they're jews....

lol. Was that fun? Dickwad.

SOB

Forgiveness must be sincere for it to have the healing benefits for the one doing the forgiving....I do not detect sincerity but rather pop psycho babble... ;) ;)

it is so regardless of your assumptions

unto that which is invoked and metaphysically

transmuted unto your being the intent is delivered

regardless of denial yes a great river

bodhisattva

-:)

simple scientific fact for one to absorb

if one does have the care

namaste

http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html


http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2012/08/the-invisible-world-made-visible-21-striking-images-of-things-you-cannot-see-2443860.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/floweroflife.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9vd4HWlVA

Ramesh Raskar: Imaging at a trillion frames per second

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 4:51pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:49pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 2:22pm: There is not a occupation. The UN Resolution was voted down on this issue. But it is obvious that there is because israel is occupying west bank. SOB Yes, and it's 'obvious' that you hate Israel...just because they're jews.... lol. Was that fun? Dickwad. SOB

Yeah it was...also true....sucked in

S.O.B does hate Israel and i can think only it is because we are Jews.

maybe your thirst for blood at anything goyem

you are forgiven

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

maybe your thirst for blood at anything goyem you are forgiven namaste

You are not able to forgive me, remember that.

why are you so hung up on illusion?

i have forgiven you as it stands..

your denial is a manifestation of fear

which is perfectly understandable as you do

i overstand your fear and hatred as i extend

forgiveness unto your beingness

it is done

and so it is so be it

bodhisattva

and once everyone forgives you

you shall be cleansed...

and so it is

blessings and compassion upon it

Forgiveness must be sincere or it has no power and you heap coals of negativity and condemnation on yourself...I detect an insincerity in your forgiveness...it is a perfunctory defense mechanism for you...not true forgiveness... :D :D :P ::)

I detect an insincerity in your forgiveness

_________________

proof..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=spirituality

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276989475

so your assertion is blown away

more proof here..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1285736490

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:18pm:

I detect an insincerity in your forgiveness _________________ proof.. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=spirituality http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276989475 so your assertion is blown away more proof here.. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1285736490

I never forgive and never forget...except for those absolutely closest to me...once someone has revealed their intent, I expect and hold them to that there is no peace, there is just what you do... ;) ;)

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:58pm:

S.O.B does hate Israel and i can think only it is because we are Jews.

I dont "hate jews" i just think israel should be made to stop their human rights abuses and to stop getting special treatment from western nations.

SOB

I never forgive and never forget..

___________

selective forgiveness aye? doent sound very sincere

in fact you condemn yourself and brand yourself

as a hypocrite.

yes you have freewill,however

do speak for thyne self

namaste

-:)

Prevailing   Online
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Posts: 3939

  Forgiveness must be sincere or it has no power and you heap coals of negativity and condemnation on yourself...I detect an insincerity in your forgiveness...it is a perfunctory defense mechanism for you...not true forgiveness...   

________________

I never forgive and never forget...except for those absolutely closest to me...once someone has revealed their intent, I expect and hold them to that there is no peace, there is just what you do...

___________

you are forgiven for hypocrisy

namaste

-:)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:26pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:58pm: S.O.B does hate Israel and i can think only it is because we are Jews. I dont "hate jews" i just think israel should be made to stop their human rights abuses and to stop getting special treatment from western nations. SOB

How many topics have you started about Chinese human rights abuses on here?

How many on Eastern African human rights abuses?

How many about Israel?

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:11pm:

and once everyone forgives you you shall be cleansed... and so it is blessings and compassion upon it

Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.

Spot you should ask Abu what he thinks it means to negotiate a peace treaty. He thinks it means that you have not surrendered and you are going to restart the war soon and this time have a glorious victory. the Palestinians that are complaining here share his view. If you could put aside your absurd pro-Islam bias you might be able to better grasp what is actually going on.

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

Prevailing   Online Gold Member Australian Politics Posts: 3939   Forgiveness must be sincere or it has no power and you heap coals of negativity and condemnation on yourself...I detect an insincerity in your forgiveness...it is a perfunctory defense mechanism for you...not true forgiveness...    ________________ I never forgive and never forget...except for those absolutely closest to me...once someone has revealed their intent, I expect and hold them to that there is no peace, there is just what you do... ___________ you are forgiven for hypocrisy namaste -:)

There is no conflict in what I said...you lied and your forgiveness is not sincere and you are not forgiven... :) :)

Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.

_____________

haha good one

-:)

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:11pm: and once everyone forgives you you shall be cleansed... and so it is blessings and compassion upon it Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.

It's needed, Avram.

There is no conflict in what I said...you lied and your forgiveness is not sincere and you are not forgiven... :) :)

___________

why?

because i am not your relation?

i am your brother being

namaste

-:)

Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed.

_____________

i have forgiven you and im not jewish

the intent is there and has been delivered,

in reality

you have been forgiven

we co create reality here and

by you closing your eyes

and refusing to see the light is on saying

no its still dark,its still dark...while bathed in LIGHT

reality dictates you are in light no matter how hard

you close your eyes beloved brother being

bodhisattva

-:)

MOTR wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:01pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:11pm: and once everyone forgives you you shall be cleansed... and so it is blessings and compassion upon it Only other Jews can forgive me if it is needed. It's needed, Avram.

Please tell me, I will love to know

Portraying Jews as one dimensional stereotypes is antisemetic in my book.

Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.
That is script.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all. It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew. That is script.

Jesus said, "forgive one another." Was he just talking to Jews or Gentiles?

Jesus is not the Messiah in Judaism so it is not my place for comment.

Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

____________

care for all?

including goyem and regard these as equal?

thats wonderful

many blessings

-:)

Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

_______

do you have any proof of this?

bodhisattva

-:)

It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew.

___________

interesting.

so you can perform trespass of a gentile and

defile/rob them?

and the gentile is not allowed to forgive the jew?

where is the peace in this?

i would suggest there is no peace because the script

is racist against non jew,is this the correct

interpretation?

namaste

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all.

Very true Avram.





Quote:

It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew. That is script.

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:55pm:

interesting. so you can perform trespass of a gentile and defile/rob them? and the gentile is not allowed to forgive the jew? where is the peace in this? i would suggest there is no peace because the script is racist against non jew,is this the correct interpretation? namaste

light,

If a Jew commits any 'trespass' [even a trespass against a gentile], his higher trespass is always against his God.

So even if the a gentile [in his heart] forgave the Jew, that is not the end of the process [of forgiveness].

Because the Jew still requires 'cleansing', which is acceptable, to satisfy his God.

So no gentile can adequately forgive the trespass of a Jew.

Jews must [ultimately] seek the forgiveness of their God.
...as must we all!!



Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.....




The Jewish people are the 'type' for all of the peoples of the world,
.....as sheep who have gone astray in the world.

MOTR wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:35pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:31pm: Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all. It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew. That is script. Jesus said, "forgive one another."

More correctly, Jesus said;

Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.


Matthew 18:15
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.


Leviticus 19:18
.....thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.







Quote:

Was he just talking to Jews or Gentiles?

Jesus said,

Matthew 15:24
.....I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The way I read it the Bible was not written universally - it was written for the chosen people a particular election..who were obviously the poor, and the Obese, the rest are reprobates and rejects who have no part in the kingdom of God and eternal life - thats how I interpret it... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 11:43pm:

#1 The way I read it the Bible was not written universally

#1,
The Bible [particularly the OT] is, largely, just a chronicle, recording the history of a particular people.

[Obviously] i believe that the account within the Bible is accurate.

Dictionary;
chronicle = = a written account of important or historical events in the order of their occurrence.









Quote:

#2 it was written for the chosen people a particular election

#2,
The 'chosen people' were intended to be an [a moral] example, to all of the peoples of the world.

They failed, in that task.



Deuteronomy 7:6
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.


Israel were not that 'special' !! ....

Deuteronomy 9:4
Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the LORD hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee.
5  Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
6  Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.


Deuteronomy 4:1
Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.
2  Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
3  Your eyes have seen what the LORD did because of Baalpeor: for all the men that followed Baalpeor, the LORD thy God hath destroyed them from among you.
4  But ye that did cleave unto the LORD your God are alive every one of you this day.
5  Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
6  Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
7  For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
8  And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?


Deuteronomy 11:26
Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God...



But instead, the 'example' of the 'chosen people' [in their subsequent history] only proved, how flawed the character of all human beings is.

The 'human condition'.








Quote:

#3 who were obviously the poor, and the Obese, the rest are reprobates and rejects who have no part in the kingdom of God and eternal life

#3,
Not so. [....unless you yourself, choose that fate for yourself]


Like i said;
The 'chosen people' were intended to be an [a moral] example, to all of the peoples of the world.

That, is us.

1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3  And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5  But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6  Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7  Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8  Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9  Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10  Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11  Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.


God considers every human being to be a 'lost sheep', lost in this world.

We, all of us, have been banished ['exiled' to this earth], away from God's presence.

Lost, in the 'wilderness' of this world.



But ultimately, we are all redeemable.

Exodus 2:22
And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom: for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.i

Quote:

#4 thats how I interpret it... :) :)

#4,
And that is your choice.




Amos 5:4
For thus saith the LORD unto the house of Israel, Seek ye me, and ye shall live:


Proverbs 8:34
Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35  For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36  But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.


Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
11  For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great.
12  What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13  His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14  The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.





Those who want, and desire, to be redeemed, will be redeemed.

Through faith.

Through trusting God.

Through believing God.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:40pm:

Jesus is not the Messiah in Judaism so it is not my place for comment.

But he was Jewish.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Jews are many things. Some behave bad which I admitted and some are wonderful people who care for all. It does not change tradition though that a gentile can not forgive the trespass of a Jew. That is script.

What type of forgiveness are you talking about?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:39pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:26pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:58pm: S.O.B does hate Israel and i can think only it is because we are Jews. I dont "hate jews" i just think israel should be made to stop their human rights abuses and to stop getting special treatment from western nations. SOB How many topics have you started about Chinese human rights abuses on here? How many on Eastern African human rights abuses? How many about Israel?

Well theres no point starting those are there - no chinese supporters of the abuses here. A least with you we can either expose you or get you to see for yourself what atrocities your country is doing.

SOB

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:40pm:

Spot you should ask Abu what he thinks it means to negotiate a peace treaty. He thinks it means that you have not surrendered and you are going to restart the war soon and this time have a glorious victory. the Palestinians that are complaining here share his view. If you could put aside your absurd pro-Islam bias you might be able to better grasp what is actually going on.

Twisty twisty twisty. Anti-israel abuses does not mean pro-islam.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 4:31am:

freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm: Spot you should ask Abu what he thinks it means to negotiate a peace treaty. He thinks it means that you have not surrendered and you are going to restart the war soon and this time have a glorious victory. the Palestinians that are complaining here share his view. If you could put aside your absurd pro-Islam bias you might be able to better grasp what is actually going on. Twisty twisty twisty. Anti-israel abuses does not mean pro-islam. SOB

It does mean antisemite though...

Prevailing wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 6:11am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 4:31am: freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm: Spot you should ask Abu what he thinks it means to negotiate a peace treaty. He thinks it means that you have not surrendered and you are going to restart the war soon and this time have a glorious victory. the Palestinians that are complaining here share his view. If you could put aside your absurd pro-Islam bias you might be able to better grasp what is actually going on. Twisty twisty twisty. Anti-israel abuses does not mean pro-islam. SOB It does mean antisemite though...

No it doesnt. Are ALL jews responsible for the atrocities?

SOB

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 6:45am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 6:11am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 4:31am: freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm: Spot you should ask Abu what he thinks it means to negotiate a peace treaty. He thinks it means that you have not surrendered and you are going to restart the war soon and this time have a glorious victory. the Palestinians that are complaining here share his view. If you could put aside your absurd pro-Islam bias you might be able to better grasp what is actually going on. Twisty twisty twisty. Anti-israel abuses does not mean pro-islam. SOB It does mean antisemite though... No it doesnt. Are ALL jews responsible for the atrocities? SOB

The one sure way to tell a Jew hater is they preface all of their Jew hating with complaints about being called an antisemite and they actually believe that there is something called Godwins law... ;D ;D

Prevailing wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 7:39pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 6:45am: Prevailing wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 6:11am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 4:31am: freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm: Spot you should ask Abu what he thinks it means to negotiate a peace treaty. He thinks it means that you have not surrendered and you are going to restart the war soon and this time have a glorious victory. the Palestinians that are complaining here share his view. If you could put aside your absurd pro-Islam bias you might be able to better grasp what is actually going on. Twisty twisty twisty. Anti-israel abuses does not mean pro-islam. SOB It does mean antisemite though... No it doesnt. Are ALL jews responsible for the atrocities? SOB The one sure way to tell a Jew hater is they preface all of their Jew hating with complaints about being called an antisemite and they actually believe that there is something called Godwins law... ;D ;D

Heh when have i ever brought up godwins law? lololol

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB

What people is that?
There wasn't a Jordanian amongst any of the monkeybums.
And that's who the Israel's seized the West Bank from in 1967 when the Jordanians failed to successfully make a surprise attack on Israel.
And the Jordanians aren't complaining.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:04pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB What people is that? There wasn't a Jordanian amongst any of the monkeybums. And that's who the Israel's seized the West Bank from in 1967 when the Jordanians failed to successfully make a surprise attack on Israel. And the Jordanians aren't complaining.

hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB

Spot on his anti jewish role again i see


a typical "weekend" discussion for the guy that has a signature at the bottom of his posts as such:

"Whenever legitimate concerns are raised about Israel or a Jew, in 90% of occasions someone will be called 'anti-Semitic' to divert/ and/or guilt trip people/s into forgiving/forgetting issues raised."

jailtime in europe but not here

brumbie wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB Spot on his anti jewish role again i see a typical "weekend" discussion for the guy that has a signature at the bottom of his posts as such: "Whenever legitimate concerns are raised about Israel or a Jew, in 90% of occasions someone will be called 'anti-Semitic' to divert/ and/or guilt trip people/s into forgiving/forgetting issues raised." jailtime in europe but not here

hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha  so anti semitic you cant even rebut what he said.. :'( :'( what monster would dare criticise israel .. try not to look so ignorant in future

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:01am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB No, I do not believe in negotiating for peace with my enemies... ;D ;D ;D Rather just kill them all and let the fairy king sort them out? SOB

the fairy king eh?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:04pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB What people is that? There wasn't a Jordanian amongst any of the monkeybums. And that's who the Israel's seized the West Bank from in 1967 when the Jordanians failed to successfully make a surprise attack on Israel. And the Jordanians aren't complaining. hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

Intellegent response yet again eh.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:55pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:13pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:04pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB What people is that? There wasn't a Jordanian amongst any of the monkeybums. And that's who the Israel's seized the West Bank from in 1967 when the Jordanians failed to successfully make a surprise attack on Israel. And the Jordanians aren't complaining. hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha Intellegent response yet again eh.

ignorance is bliss

brumbie wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB Spot on his anti jewish role again i see a typical "weekend" discussion for the guy that has a signature at the bottom of his posts as such: "Whenever legitimate concerns are raised about Israel or a Jew, in 90% of occasions someone will be called 'anti-Semitic' to divert/ and/or guilt trip people/s into forgiving/forgetting issues raised." jailtime in europe but not here

In europe its illegal to raise legitimate issues? Do you agree with laws that are against free speech and stop you raising legitimate concerns?

SOB

May I take this moment to again say there was a proposed resolution on the occupied territory settlements which did not pass and failed at the security council.

The world community could not agree and refuse to condemn Israel.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

May I take this moment to again say there was a proposed resolution on the occupied territory settlements which did not pass and failed at the security council. The world community could not agree and refuse to condemn Israel.

What was the vote, Avram?

MOTR wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:21pm: May I take this moment to again say there was a proposed resolution on the occupied territory settlements which did not pass and failed at the security council. The world community could not agree and refuse to condemn Israel. What was the vote, Avram?

This Resolution demands Israel cease building in the occupied West Bank and that all settlements built since the accord are illegal.

And how did the actual vote go?

14 to 1 wasn't it. Vetoed by the US, once again. 

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html

Makes for very interesting reading.

The US might have vetoed for political reasons, but here is what they really think.


Quote:

In explaining her veto, US Ambassador Susan E. Rice said the vote should not be misunderstood as support for settlement activity. “On the contrary, we reject in the strongest terms the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity,” she declared. “Continued settlement activity violates Israel’s international commitments, devastates trust between the parties, and threatens the prospects for peace… “Every potential action must be measured against one overriding standard: will it move the parties closer to negotiations and an agreement? Unfortunately, this draft resolution risks hardening the positions of both sides. It could encourage the parties to stay out of negotiations and, if and when they did resume, to return to the Security Council whenever they reach an impasse.”

It was a biased resolution.

Biased against the aggressor.

That language does not help the situation.

That is the language of terrorists like Hamas

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:28pm:

That language does not help the situation. That is the language of terrorists like Hamas

Yes - you gave back Gaza & got over 10,000 rockets back as thanks.

Nothing wrong with a few rockets up the Gaza, Bobbie. We all want a piece, isn't it.

Karnal wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

Nothing wrong with a few rockets up the Gaza, Bobbie. We all want a piece, isn't it.

What a poof.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 10:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 10:00pm: Nothing wrong with a few rockets up the Gaza, Bobbie. We all want a piece, isn't it. What a poof.

Poof? What did I say?

In explaining her veto, US Ambassador Susan E. Rice said the vote should not be misunderstood as support for settlement activity.

“On the contrary, we reject in the strongest terms the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity,” she declared. “Continued settlement activity violates Israel’s international commitments, devastates trust between the parties, and threatens the prospects for peace…

_____________

yes this sounds like a terrorist regime

keep ever vigilant against these aggressors

one may suggest

namaste

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:55pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:13pm: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:04pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 6:55am: Israel wouldn't even allow these ppl to negotiate http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/05/us-israel-palestinians-summit-idUSBRE8740MM20120805 Quote: "The goal of this decision, which was issued at the highest political echelons in Israel, is to thwart the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to achieve more successes for the benefit of Palestinians and its efforts to end the occupation," Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki told reporters. So they admit it is an "occupation". Avram doesnt but Israel does. Its illegal but the UN is following orders . . . . SOB What people is that? There wasn't a Jordanian amongst any of the monkeybums. And that's who the Israel's seized the West Bank from in 1967 when the Jordanians failed to successfully make a surprise attack on Israel. And the Jordanians aren't complaining. hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha Intellegent response yet again eh.

......not.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:47pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:28pm: That language does not help the situation. That is the language of terrorists like Hamas Yes - you gave back Gaza & got over 10,000 rockets back as thanks.

Exactly so, bobby


On past experience, imagine what Israel may get, if Israel 'gave back' Samaria and Judea !

The Jews are under no obligation to give up anything for peace - keep hunting Nazis - you go guys... :) :)

Yadda wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:47pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:28pm: That language does not help the situation. That is the language of terrorists like Hamas Yes - you gave back Gaza & got over 10,000 rockets back as thanks. Exactly so, bobby On past experience, imagine what Israel may get, if Israel 'gave back' Samaria and Judea !

Yes - the nicer the Jews are -  the worse they are treated.
The Muslims only understand military power - force.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 12:24am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:47pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:28pm: That language does not help the situation. That is the language of terrorists like Hamas Yes - you gave back Gaza & got over 10,000 rockets back as thanks. Exactly so, bobby On past experience, imagine what Israel may get, if Israel 'gave back' Samaria and Judea ! Yes - the nicer the Jews are -  the worse they are treated. The Muslims only understand military power - force.

So destroying thier homes and families is being nice?

SOB

Quote:

So destroying their homes and families is being nice?

No - but giving them back the whole of Gaza was nice.

Depriving Gaza of water not so nice.

Yadda wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:47pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 8:28pm: That language does not help the situation. That is the language of terrorists like Hamas Yes - you gave back Gaza & got over 10,000 rockets back as thanks. Exactly so, bobby On past experience, imagine what Israel may get, if Israel 'gave back' Samaria and Judea !

WTF? Gave back?

SOB

Bobby. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

Quote: So destroying their homes and families is being nice? No - but giving them back the whole of Gaza was nice.

Giving them back gaza? Oh - tell me where were the gazeans before they "gave back gaza" ? Hmmmm? Why do you think they are called refugees? So you are saying really that they were "nice" by not exterminating them?

SOB

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2012 at 10:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 10:00pm: Nothing wrong with a few rockets up the Gaza, Bobbie. We all want a piece, isn't it. What a poof.

Hahahaha somebody has something on the mind . . . ;)

SOB

MOTR wrote on Aug 13^th, 2012 at 3:11am:

Depriving Gaza of water not so nice.

They could pray to Allah for water.

Couldn't they ?






OR, the Gazans could rocket Israeli towns.

coz, that will help Gazans get water,   .....won't it.
/sarc off







MOTR,

If the Gazans lived in the Garden of Eden, they would still curse God, and die.




Isaiah 26:10
Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.

Quote:

They could pray to Allah for water. Couldn't they ?

But that doesnt work does it yadda. Which you know full well because you wouldn't want to have to rely on your god for water would you yadda.

You are one of those nasty xtians that needs to be on medication.

SOB

You know Allah is your God and my God. Was your intention to mock God?

There will not be peace as they keep firing rockets at my country.
We will reply every time.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 8:19am:

There will not be peace as they keep firing rockets at my country. We will reply every time.

Pussy terrorist.
The punishment for terrorism should be gassing.
Pussy.

someone is about to be banned again, I would argue...

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

someone is about to be banned again, I would argue...

I hope I am.. I will not silence myself for a terrorist.
You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him.

Someone is terrorist because they are Israeli.

Nice bit of prejudice there.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Someone is terrorist because they are Israeli. Nice bit of prejudice there.

Right, the fact you have to put words in my mouth must prove that I am right.
Pathetic terrorist supporter.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Someone is terrorist because they are Israeli. Nice bit of prejudice there.

No - not because he is israeli - because he is israeli terrorist. Not all israelis are terrorists.

SOB

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Someone is terrorist because they are Israeli. Nice bit of prejudice there.

You've got your sox on the wrong feet ha ha

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 8:19am: There will not be peace as they keep firing rockets at my country. We will reply every time. Pussy terrorist. The punishment for terrorism should be gassing. Pussy.

you want to gas palestine?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 5:51am:

Quote: They could pray to Allah for water. Couldn't they ? But that doesnt work does it yadda. Which you know full well because you wouldn't want to have to rely on your god for water would you yadda. You are one of those nasty xtians that needs to be on medication. SOB

SPOT,

I do rely on God, for my water.

I am NOT on scheme water.

All of my water falls out of the sky.



And, thank you, i do not need medication.

I am not on any medication.      :P








MOTR wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 6:21am:

You know Allah is your God and my God. Was your intention to mock God?

motor,

Allah may be your God.



And i am not mocking God.

The Koran clearly states that;
".....Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27


So the Gazans [who worship Allah] could, and should, pray to Allah for water.

And if the Gazans have no water, clearly, that is because it is Allah's will, that the Gazans have no water.

That is only logical.

Correct ?





motor,

Isn't Israel's continued existence proof that moslems are resisting Allah's will ???

And don't moslems define terrorism, as resisting Allah's will  ???   [n.b. they do!!]

So aren't moslems, terrorists, by their own definition ???





motor,

Remember;
".....Allah has power over all things.",
Koran 33:27

And if it was Allah's will that the moslems should destroy Israel, wouldn't Allah have assisted the moslems in at least one of their many attempts to destroy Israel ???


The facts are that moslem states surrounding Israel, have tried to destroy Israel on several occasions.

And on each occasion, the moslem armies were comprehensively routed.

And this is Allah's will.

So isn't it perfectly clear, that REPEATED resounding defeats, by moslems, at the hands of the Israelis, is indicative of Allah's punishment of moslems, for presuming to resist his will in this matter ???


Bad moslems!!!

Be careful!!

Other wise Allah is going to REALLY punish you moslems!    [.....for continuing to resist his will!!]

i would suggest israel has the power to stop

the rain over gaza

and continue to kill these peoples they stole

palestine from

http://www.haarp.net/

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/05/26/china-to-increase-weather-manipulation-program/

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/photo-108-600x250.jpg



if you are ignorant of the facts

i suggest research

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:06am:

i would suggest israel has the power to stop the rain over gaza and continue to kill these peoples they stole palestine from if you are ignorant of the facts i suggest research namaste

light,

Why do moslems incessantly oppress Jews and Christians ?

Is it because their god, Allah, has commanded moslems to oppress all non-moslems [....but especially those Jews and Christians] ?



"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends.....offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1




"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51i+++

'if you are ignorant of the facts'

light,

I suggest that you look in the mirror.

Quote:

All of my water falls out of the sky.

So because you live in a place where it rains you assume everyone else does?


Quote:

I am not on any medication.

 

Yeah i know. I can tell.


Quote:

Allah may be your God. And i am not mocking God.

you are if you are mocking Allah because Alla means god. There is only 1 god right? Well allah is a word for god.


Quote:

Correct ?

No - they have no water because the israelis bulldozed their wells.

Israel is a terrorist regime.

SOB

FriYAY wrote on Aug 14^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:49am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 8:19am: There will not be peace as they keep firing rockets at my country. We will reply every time. Pussy terrorist. The punishment for terrorism should be gassing. Pussy. you want to gas palestine?

A better idea would be to gas the israeli terrorists.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:51am:

No - they have no water because .....the israelis bulldozed their wells. Israel is a terrorist regime. SOB

err,  .........rockets.

Yadda wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:01pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:51am: No - they have no water because .....the israelis bulldozed their wells. Israel is a terrorist regime. SOB err,  .........rockets.

No . . .. .  pretty sure it was bulldozers. . . .

SOB

i would suggest israel has the power to stop

the rain over gaza

and continue to kill these peoples they stole

palestine from

http://www.haarp.net/

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/05/26/china-to-increase-weather-manipulation-program/

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/photo-108-600x250.jpg



if you are ignorant of the facts

i suggest research

namaste