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Message started by Saul Goodman on Aug 6th, 2012 at 10:48am

Title: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Saul Goodman on Aug 6th, 2012 at 10:48am
Should Obama And Congress Be Arrested Under The NDAA?
http://www.infowars.com/should-obama-and-congress-be-arrested-under-the-ndaa/

Quote:
Should President Obama (alongside Lindsay Graham and John McCain) be wearing an orange jumpsuit?

Welcome to the beautiful and surreal reality of life under American corporatism, under a Congress that churns out thousands  and thousands of pages of (often contradictory) legislation a year.

If providing material assistance to al-Qaeda is illegal under the National Defence Authorization Act (2012), and Obama and Congress are sending $25 million of aid to al-Qaeda-affiliated Syrian opposition, aren’t Congress and President Obama violating their own law? Should Obama (or at least the Justice Department) not be using “all necessary and appropriate force” including “the power to indefinitely detain” to prevent Obama and Congress from assisting al-Qaeda? Did anyone in Congress or the Obama administration even bother to read the law that they were signing? Do Federal laws no longer apply to lawmakers?

The only question left from this abrupt and absurd turnaround — from funding bin Laden’s mujahideen thirty years ago, to ten years ago declaring war on al-Qaeda, to today sending them material assistance — would appear to be whether or not Obama will pull a 1984 and claim that “we have always been at war with Eurasia“.

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 6th, 2012 at 11:27am
Once one president is allowed to break the law ie Iraq, then the following ones will take it that bit further, or in the case of Obama, a whole lot further.

The Pentagon are lawless terrorists. They run the country, the president is the puppet.

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by gold_medal on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm
What is this... mental illness day?

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 6th, 2012 at 2:24pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
What is this... mental illness day?


Always

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:39pm
Answer the highlighted part of the op.

Why is the president immune to the legislation and the rest of the country not?

You do know that he has aided and abetted Al Qaeda, don't you?

Think Libya where the Al Qaeda flag was flying high on the court house after Gadaffi was murdered.


Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Prevailing on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
What is this... mental illness day?

This troll should be banned for mindlessly calling every post it disagrees with mentally ill or loony - I point this troll out to highlight and bring to peoples awareness how often it uses this debating tactic in an attempt to discredit the person making a comment it does not like on a personal level... :) :) :)

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Prevailing on Aug 6th, 2012 at 4:02pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 10:48am:
Should Obama And Congress Be Arrested Under The NDAA?
http://www.infowars.com/should-obama-and-congress-be-arrested-under-the-ndaa/

Quote:
Should President Obama (alongside Lindsay Graham and John McCain) be wearing an orange jumpsuit?

Welcome to the beautiful and surreal reality of life under American corporatism, under a Congress that churns out thousands  and thousands of pages of (often contradictory) legislation a year.

If providing material assistance to al-Qaeda is illegal under the National Defence Authorization Act (2012), and Obama and Congress are sending $25 million of aid to al-Qaeda-affiliated Syrian opposition, aren’t Congress and President Obama violating their own law? Should Obama (or at least the Justice Department) not be using “all necessary and appropriate force” including “the power to indefinitely detain” to prevent Obama and Congress from assisting al-Qaeda? Did anyone in Congress or the Obama administration even bother to read the law that they were signing? Do Federal laws no longer apply to lawmakers?

The only question left from this abrupt and absurd turnaround — from funding bin Laden’s mujahideen thirty years ago, to ten years ago declaring war on al-Qaeda, to today sending them material assistance — would appear to be whether or not Obama will pull a 1984 and claim that “we have always been at war with Eurasia“.

Your point is well made - yes Obama can be prosecuted or impeached legally, but it requires citizens or a citizen with the kind of single minded pigheadedness and determination of Kenneth Star who pursued Bill Clinton through the courts for presidential misconduct...

Citizens have to activate the legal mechanisms to bring down radical and dangerous political leadership....we can do the same here in Australia too, it just requires the will of the people to enforce the law to defend their constitutional rights. :) :)

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 7th, 2012 at 6:54am
I'll ask again.

Why is the president immune to the current legislation and the rest of the country not?

Who in the Pentagon is aiding and abetting Al Qaeda?
a supposedly sworn enemy of the USA and a terrorist regime.

Should they be identified and held indefinitely without trial?

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by warrigal on Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:43am
I wouldn't worry about Obama he won't be there arfter the November Presidental poll, the republican party is too strong this time, president mitt

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Swagman on Aug 7th, 2012 at 1:37pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 11:27am:
Once one president is allowed to break the law ie Iraq, then the following ones will take it that bit further, or in the case of Obama, a whole lot further.

The Pentagon are lawless terrorists. They run the country, the president is the puppet.


What was the Iraq law that the one President broke? :-?




Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 7th, 2012 at 3:45pm

Swagman wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 1:37pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 11:27am:
Once one president is allowed to break the law ie Iraq, then the following ones will take it that bit further, or in the case of Obama, a whole lot further.

The Pentagon are lawless terrorists. They run the country, the president is the puppet.


What was the Iraq law that the one President broke? :-?


This one.

Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter, says Annan

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/16/iraq.iraq

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 7th, 2012 at 3:46pm

warrigal wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:43am:
I wouldn't worry about Obama he won't be there arfter the November Presidental poll, the republican party is too strong this time, president mitt



LOL

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Saul Goodman on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:27am

gold_medal wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
What is this... mental illness day?

So insane that you can't even rebut the claims?

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 8th, 2012 at 2:34pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:27am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
What is this... mental illness day?

So insane that you can't even rebut the claims?



No he's right. I think you are insane.

However, I really like your argument style and wit...

Particularly the "dude bugger off" response.

That was razor sharp wit.....

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by progressiveslol on Aug 8th, 2012 at 4:17pm
America needs Ron Paul. That is all that can be said or done.

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 8th, 2012 at 4:26pm
US military has provided support for alqaeda so yes

kissenger obama bush father and son howard hawke

blair yes all these freemasons and many more will

be arrested for their collective crimes all documented

namaste

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Deathridesahorse on Aug 8th, 2012 at 5:31pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
What is this... mental illness day?

This troll should be banned for mindlessly calling every post it disagrees with mentally ill or loony - I point this troll out to highlight and bring to peoples awareness how often it uses this debating tactic in an attempt to discredit the person making a comment it does not like on a personal level... :) :) :)

prevailing does the same btw!!  :o :o

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 8th, 2012 at 6:12pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVx3VbLag8k&feature=g-u-u

Al Qaeda: Pride of The CFR

Published on 8 Aug 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel
Senior Council on Foreign Relations fellow Ed Husain has hailed the presence of Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria, praising their fighting prowess in aid of FSA rebels while also lauding the increasing number of successful bombings carried out by Al-Qaeda fighters.

In case you didn't get the memo -- Al-Qaeda -- the same group the United States accuses of carrying out the most devastating terrorist attack on U.S. soil in history, is now our ally in Syria.

Terrorist attacks carried out by Al-Qaeda in Syria are inherently moral and good. Down is the new up.

Winston, we were never at war with Eurasia!

"The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime's superior weaponry and professional army," writes Husain, a Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies with the CFR.

"Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now," he adds.

The Council on Foreign Relations is considered to be America's "most influential foreign-policy think tank" and has deep connections with the U.S. State Department. In 2009, Hillary Clinton welcomed the fact that the CFR had set up an outpost down the street from the State Department in Washington DC, because it meant "I won't have as far to go to be told what we should be doing."

Husain goes on to celebrate the fact that Al-Qaeda's role in carrying out terrorist bombings in cities like Damascus and Aleppo has intensified, writing that "The group's strength and acceptance by the FSA are demonstrated by their increasing activity on the ground --from seven attacks in March to sixty-six "operations" in June."
http://www.infowars.com/cfr-strategist-praises-al-qaeda-bombings-in-syria/
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Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by Saul Goodman on Aug 8th, 2012 at 6:32pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:27am:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 6th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
What is this... mental illness day?

So insane that you can't even rebut the claims?



No he's right. I think you are insane.

However, I really like your argument style and wit...

Particularly the "dude bugger off" response.

That was razor sharp wit.....

Yeah only insane people worry about children being raped, innocent people getting blown up and so on..
I wish I could be sane and ignore that.

When your talking to idiots eventually you will start talking like an idiot but I couldn't give a crap.. This issue and all the other things you criticise stand for themselves and its evident in the fact that you lot have to sink to the levels of a toddler rather then debate properly and face facts and evident reality.

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:29am
I don't see any answers from the would-be Psychiatrists yet.

If you make a law and you break it, you should be punished just like anyone else. It doesn't matter that you are the leader of a once great nation.

Give us your argument of why the president should be immune to the laws of the land.

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by pansi1951 on Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:43am
They will eat their own before they lie down to die.

Who said anything about a democracy?



NDAA on trial: White House refuses to abide with ban against indefinite detention of Americans

Not only is the White House fighting in court for the power to jail Americans indefinitely without trial, but the Obama administration is refusing to tell a federal judge if they've abided by an injunction that prohibits them from such.
Attorneys for the White House have been in-and-out of court in Manhattan this week to argue that the indefinite detention provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, or NDAA, are necessary for the safety and security of the nation. When President Barack Obama signed the bill on December 31, he granted the government the power to put any American away in jail over even suspected terrorist ties, but federal court Judge Katherine Forrest ruled in May that this particular part of the NDAA, Section 1021, failed to “pass constitutional muster” and ordered a temporary injunction.

http://rt.com/usa/news/ndaa-injunction-tangerine-detention-376/

Title: Re: Obama to be indefinetley detained
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 11th, 2012 at 5:37pm
and they say america is free

its total martial law..talk about bizzaro world

we are at the tipping point as all is in accordance

with the divine plan

namaste

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