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Title: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 8th, 2012 at 9:47pm
Yep the US style tent city housing accomodation has started in Australia :(
Why doesn't the government acknowledge the problem and make it official and supply them with cheap housing made out of old shipping containers ;) Quote:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/consumer/article/-/14486367/australia-tent-city |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Soren on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:08pm
Can we expect cheaper domestic help, then?
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by perceptions_now on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:11pm Soren wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:08pm:
What's your 2nd guess, Soren? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Soren on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:27pm perceptions_now wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:11pm:
Well, Ok, I don't really mean all sorts of domestic help. I am not saying I would let them in the house or anything like that, but there's plenty to do outside So I am hoping for some extra supply of unskilled labour. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Prevailing on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:32pm
The next smart 'rse pollie comes up with an idea like work for the dole gets his smart mouth wacked in the High Court... :) :)
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Shane B on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:49pm
Ahh the joys of the welfare state.
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:38pm Prevailing wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Phony Tony has work for the dole back on the agenda !! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Prevailing on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:44pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:38pm:
I will sue him for everything he freaking well has, by the time I'm finished he will be begging Australia for forgiveness... :) :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:51pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:38pm:
How can anyone live on $240 a week & pay rent? That is the plight of the unemployed & Tony wants people to work for those slave wages. I suppose we never abolished slavery in Australia like the Yanks. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Prevailing on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:55pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:51pm:
We actually did abolish it in Australia but the mongrels bought it back because people dont understand freedom don't come cheap - you have to resist those who would take it from you - Aussie did not want to fight - that situation has changed.... :) :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:57pm
We abolished slavery in Australia ?
When? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Prevailing on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:25am Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 11:57pm:
When convict transportation was ended and we moved towards federation and a constitution based firmly in British Law which guarantees fundamental rights which eventually lead to decent labor regulations, citizenship and eventually emancipated the Aboriginals as well granting them the same legal access to eventually sue in the High Court to over turn Terra Nullis. The forces of lawlessness and fascism were germinating in the 1980's and 90's again and fully ripened under the Howard era - they are now listless and decadent in their own failures and corruption abusing a system they do not even believe in, having done their damnedest to wind back civilization and return us to a lawless slave colony complete with human trafficking again. Slavery and freedom has been a class battle in a British context over the law - slave social law vs civilized emancipating law rooted in the Magna Carta...Australia has seen a battle played out that has gone on since the 12th century and yes has been played out around the world wherever British slavers tried to ply their trade. Terra Nullis is rooted in social law - fascists have over the past 30 years rebuilt terra nullis despite the High Court decision - they have declared Australia up for sale. The Magna Carta was itself a rejection of Terra Nullis and social law over the British Isles enforced on the Crown. :) :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:38am
Good post Prevailing but it seems slavery has returned.
Sometimes I get fed up with my job & think of how nice an extended holiday on the Govt. would be. I could follow my hobbies & not have to put up with nonsense at work. Then I realise that $240 a week plus working for the dole is little better than slavery & that helps me to keep my job. Even though I have no rent or mortgage to pay $240 would still leave me below the poverty line. It's not fair because I'd like to get some of my tax back. ;D |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Prevailing on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:49am Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:38am:
No you want to rob me of my economic rights - you falsely assume some ownership over my share in the economy that you don't actually have. This is because you presuppose social law - which is an error, therefore all your conclusions are built on error... :) :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 9th, 2012 at 6:19am Soren wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:27pm:
You are so full of xtian compassion arent you. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 9th, 2012 at 6:20am Shane B wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:49pm:
If there was decent welfare it wouldn't be happening. Your statement makes no sense. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:14am
Homeless people can't work for the dole. Someone will steal away with their tent or cardboard box and all their worldly goods while they're "at work".
This is the result of 50 years of public housing neglect. The states sold off valuable and much needed public housing over the years and neglected to build more to replace those ones, and to cater for an ever growing population. Why can't they build cheap accommodation out of shipping containers or supply mining style donga's for the homeless. Surely that's better than tents set up in parks and on vacant blocks. This country has been ruined by bureaucratic red tape that stands in the way of sensible solutions to critical problems. Someone needs to sort out the rules and regulations across the board; keep the worthwhile ones and ditch the useless ones. Prevailing, I'd like to see you rip it to Tony in the High Court when he brings back Work for the dole, if he ever becomes PM that is. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:29am Quote:
That's a Walter Mitty fantasy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty Quote:
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by salad in on Aug 9th, 2012 at 8:56am Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 9:47pm:
Are the US citizens aware of America's foreign aid budget? Quote:
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:33am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:14am:
Yeh they sold the public housing off to property speculators, developers and hoarders who are now ripping off their tenants whilst enjoying capital gains :( At the very least they could offer low cost housing in the form of used shipping containers. It would be better insulated than a tent ;) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Prevailing on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:53am Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:29am:
You give to much thought to the study of self delusion me thinks... ;D ;D I'll sue his freakin' 'rse off - I'll take him for everything he has if he tries to use the parliament for economic social engineering. :D :D |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by FriYAY on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:56am
Costs too much to manufacture in Australia.
The same morons that put this stuff up are the ones that cheer when unions win pay rises and frown when the bad boss tries to stay competitive. Reap what you sow…….it is only going to get worse. Now we have foreign car parts manufacturers over here saying “why employ Aussie at $20 an hour when we do cheap for $2 an hour” This country is heading down the drain, our bubble hasn’t burst yet, but it will. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:59am FriYAY wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:56am:
Because $2 an hour wont pay the rent SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by FriYAY on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:07pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:59am:
WTF does that 1 line of dribble mean? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:18pm FriYAY wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:07pm:
Aussies cant work for $2 an hour because it wont pay the rent. You need a link to dictionary.com? SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by FriYAY on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:23pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
Which is the entire point of my post, genius. ::) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:24pm FriYAY wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:07pm:
It means they need to be payed a decent wage here to put up with the cost of living and the bullshit price of housing here :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by FriYAY on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:25pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
Which....again.....is the point of my post. FFS ::) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Soren on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:29pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 6:19am:
Providing employment is a form of charity, especially for the unskilled. Would you rather let them live in tents for ever - or let me help them help themselves? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:41pm Soren wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
No it's not charity. It's a 2 way business contract where you offer a service to an employer and he in turn pays you for that service. There is no charity whatsoever and like any business you shop around for the best deal !! However I don't believe that tax payers should be offering money to foreign corporations which have this as their agenda. That is the charity in all of this :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:50pm FriYAY wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:23pm:
Yeah you have a problem with me agreeing with you? SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:26pm Prevailing wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:53am:
You give to much thought to the study of self delusion me thinks... ;D ;D I'll sue his freakin' 'rse off - I'll take him for everything he has if he tries to use the parliament for economic social engineering. :D :D[/quote] Hi Prevailing, can't you see that suing Tony Abbott is an example of someone with fantastic daydreams of future personal triumph? I think you are ineffectual dreamer - therefore the character of Walter Mitty effectively describes you. You are Walter Mitty. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Upton Sinclair on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:49pm Prevailing wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:25am:
What a load of complete and utter twaddle. You speak like a crazy person who knows words but not meanings. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Verge on Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:21pm
I'm off to buy shares in BCF. Gonna become a multiple holding tent landlord while cashing in on increased tent sales
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:46pm Verge wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:21pm:
There you go everyone: a statement from an ultimate Libbo - Verge Exploiting the poor is their happiness. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Kat on Aug 9th, 2012 at 11:43pm Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:49pm:
[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Matey, you've just summed-up 90% of them in one little sentence. Here, have a schooner! My shout! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Mnemonic on Aug 10th, 2012 at 3:04am Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:49pm:
If you know the meaning of these words, why don't you explain why he's wrong? Show me why he's wrong. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by aquascoot on Aug 10th, 2012 at 9:03am
I think we use our existing housing fairly poorly.
Many single person dwellings with 1 occupant. In a 4 bedroom house Public housing qld are now forcing people to share despite some major objections. But their approach is a little hypocritical as they will not allow relatives with caravans to live on site in any public house dwelling , ie to share facilities. Certainly many Canadian residences have a rentable granny flat and this may be a good thing. Might reduce public transport infrastructure being stretched out to enormous distances from cbd |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Soren on Aug 11th, 2012 at 2:30pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:41pm:
Exactly. Business shops around for a better deal, too. And bums do not offer a better deal. Governments subsides business when both know that the workforce by itself is not offering a good enough deal. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:09pm
So tell me again where these supposed 'tent cities' are now in australia? Ive heard this fantays before but no one can actully seem to find them! Please dont point to caravan parks... we have had them for 100 years and people have always lived long-term in them for their own reasons.
Just another paranoid delusion... |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:24pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:09pm:
Didn't you look at the video? Did you listen to where the tents are being set up? Go on, do this little thing for you. We all know you can. Doesn't your church help them out? they should, oh! maybe they have to listen to the service first. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:23pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:24pm:
Its a Today Tonight video!!! No one with a sense of credibility trusts anything they say. They are the same crew that told us you could run a car on water and showed use a gnerator that required no fuel... Theyve also been criticised for falsifying reports and showing video from ANOTHER COUNTRY and claiming it as being here. You might as well have posted a link to a conspiracy website. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:20am gold_medal wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 7:23pm:
So you can run a car on water? But we knew that already - what is the problem of them saying it? Do you discredit every news org as soon as they do 1 lie? So where can you possibly get news from? They all lie. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:21am
I have seen "tent cities" in australia - they are usually outside of town a lil ways because they get arrested if they pitch inside a certain area.
SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:30am
People are setting up home in scrublands and national parks.
Not the type of places you'd frequent longy, but the homeless situation is worsening. We actually have a homeless tent person on our forum. Do you ever absorb what you read? Sorry mate, I'm not saying your tent is not your home, but I'm trying to wake up the deniers of reality. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:37am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:20am:
Im trying to work out if you are a troll or just a fool who'd beleive anything? the latter seems more consistent with your posts. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:38am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:21am:
Would it be asking to much to provide a little evidence of this claim? After all, there has been nothing at all about it in any of the media including the left-wing media, certainly nothing with actual evidence. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:41am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:30am:
homeless with regular internet?? Seriously, are you THAT gullible??? And the same to you as with SOB - provide some actual evidence - not some article from TT, a show that has already been fined for manufacturing stories. Why is it that NO ONE seems to ever see these tent-cities? COuld it be that A) they dont exist or B) its 4 people in a tent somewhere? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 9:06am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:41am:
He doesn't seem to have regular internet, does he? He's not on here all that much, is he? He could well have a notebook and there is plenty of free wi fi areas in most towns and cities these days. Public libraries always have free wi fi. Get outside and look for yourself. Have you been further than your street in the last 12 months? It's amazing what you'll see if you venture out and look for it. No, he can't sell his little laptop and buy a house, maybe in five years time though. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:22am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:21am:
Have you really? Sounds like you've seen a fair few, if you get to say "usually". So you wouldn't mind me askign where these ghost cities are? You sure they're not what the rest of us call "campsites"? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:56am
Call it what you like, but people that live for extended periods in tents, whether in campsites, caravan parks or alone in the bush, and have no other address are considered to be homeless.
Should we just say tent dwellers will be setting up near you. It only makes sense that as our homeless population increases, the number of people living in tents will increase. Deny that right whingers. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:24am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:37am:
So you dont think there are engines that run on water then? Google link on water fuelled engines Or are you on about the news orgs? you dont agree with my statement? SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:25am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:41am:
Gold/Longy, You'll see more of them when Tony gains power. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:25am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:38am:
You mean the right wing media longy . . .. . . Go out and look. Look in the outer suburbs where theres a lil bush and you will see them. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:27am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:41am:
Its easier to get regular internet (get one of those wireless telstra jobbies) than to get accommodation. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:28am ... wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:22am:
Ghost cities? Yeah campsites but not designated campsites. Obvsiouly ppl are camping there. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:06pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:56am:
The 'tense' of you words implies that it WILL happen not that it IS happening. IN other words, everything you say is made up. Hardly news. SOB makes up almost everything he posts from what the little voices in his head tell him. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:08pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:24am:
no, you made the idiotic claim so you proved the proof. Provide ONE CREDIBLE shred of evidence that cars can run on water. You can't of course nor can anyone else. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:09pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:25am:
Really? so why do the salvos not know about them? or the media? or other groups or frankly, anyone else? EVIDENCE... show some. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:36pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:09pm:
They do, but for privacy reasons and the protection of the people, they keep it under wraps. How do you know that the salvo's and other charities don't know where these people are? I know where they are in my area, because I care enough to find out. Or is it easier to deny that they exist? just like the church denied child sex abuse for decades. I haven't seen them, therefore they don't exist. If it stings when you pee longy, go see a doctor, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there. Channel 9 news tonight, aged pensioners lining up at soup kitchens. Watch it. A national disgrace! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:42pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:09pm:
The salvos prolly do know about them. Didnt they tell you? If by "anyone else" you mean you its because you dont want to know obviously. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:43pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 1:08pm:
Did you follow the link? SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 5:25pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:36pm:
Thats you best comeback?? 'its all a secret'?? I wasnt expecting a great reply but that was pathetic. secret indeed... |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 5:26pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:42pm:
Perhaps 'proof' has a different meaning between your ears. It certainly seems so. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 5:27pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
I can go to google on my own thanks very much for nothing. Now how about you provide ONE VERIFIED example of a water-powered car. You wont of course, because none exists. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:02pm
And SOB runs away from yet another thread because his claims are found to be rubbish.
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:18pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:09pm:
"they live in tents because they choose to live there" :( Spoken like a true apathetic libbo :( did it ever occur to you that some people just can't afford to fuel your fake property bubble you idiot !! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:36pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:18pm:
Longy lives in fantasy land with the fairies, there's no point in discussing real world issues with him. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:38pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:18pm:
I ask the same of you as i ask of SOB. PROOF. actual evidence. Photos would be nice. Articles from respected sources because so far the ONLY 'evidence' coes from TT which has been actually fined for fabricating stories. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:40pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:36pm:
same to you... simple proof. actual evidence. Why is it that you never seem able to provide evidence of almost everything you say? I've NEVER seen a tent city in australia. Ive seen carvan parks and camping grounds, but nothing like what you say exists but mysteriously can show no evidence of. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:45pm
Here you are lazy-boy, now shut up about it.
There's more but you can find them. One in the suburbs of Adelaide too, but you don't live in Adelaide so you wouldn't know. and you lose the argument http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/wa-families-forced-to-live-in-tents/story-e6... http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/muswellbrooks-tent-city/2642... << Why is it that you never seem able to provide evidence of almost everything you say?>> .............................................................. I provide links to everything I say that is not common knowledge so that makes you a liar. ten hail mary's for that. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:48pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:45pm:
The links failed. Want to try the correct ones? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:52pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:38pm:
it's at the start of the thread you troll !! stop wasting peoples time on this forum will you delusional twit >:( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:55pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:52pm:
TT does not count as evidence. they are on record as having been found guilioty of manufacturing stories. How about provide some photos and real reliable evidence? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:01pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:55pm:
HA HA HA HA HA You lost the argument. I can call you a loser now. LOSER |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:01pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:55pm:
and you never provide any evidence at all :( There are photos and video footage !! Are you calling those people liars ? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:14pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:01pm:
yes. Ive never seen these supposed tent cities nor has anyone else. And dont just come up with a few people living in tents as though there has always been some doing that. Find these CITIES of tents you keep going on about. And curiously, the evidence fails to materialise. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:16pm
Longy,
you'll see the tent cities soon enough when your leader wins. . |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:18pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:16pm:
So even you are admitting that they dont exist??? welcome to my side lastnail/bobby |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Kat on Aug 12th, 2012 at 9:55pm
Well, the Today Tonight vision of tent cities springing up in a
park near you would be almost universally carp. Nor would it be true to say that it's not happening at all. Yes, there have always been those who live this way, whether by choice or necessity. But I'd be willing to bet (and anecdotal evidence supports this) that the number of those doing so has increased considerably over the last few years. Although certainly not in the plague-like numbers suggested by TT. I'd also be willing to bet that if the 'tent cities' were populated by single men, rather than 'families' then TT would show NO sympathy whatsoever, but would instead put a 'work-shy dole- bludger' slant on the whole issue. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:27pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:14pm:
and your evidence for those people being liars is what ?? Nothing of course except your bullshit opinion :( you just don't want to admit that your beloved thieving church institutions continue to fail the poor as they always have done whilst transferring much needed wealth into their own bank vaults and property deals for themselves :( Just ask your lying mates at HillSux church how much of what they collect goes to the needy and they will tell you lies :( They are the real liars not those on today tonight :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:35pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:18pm:
Those people are not going to tell anyone where they live just like you don't give out your address on this forum for obvious reasons. Get fricken real idiot :( Some people are just brain dead on this forum. Always wanting to known where somone else lives and what car they drive and what job they've got and what qualifications they have.. You sticky nose church going freak. Get a life will you !@! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:42pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 8:18pm:
Longy/Gold, They exist Longweekend but just not in the numbers that make it obvious to Libbo voters in the better suburbs like you. There are over 100,000 people living on the streets with no tent. Open your eyes - you libbo blind heartless greedy hypocrite. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:22pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:42pm:
30,000 homeless in Melbourne alone :( That would make a small city if they were all in the same location. Out of sight out of mind is always good enough to a selfish libbo :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:05am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:02pm:
Uhh hello wanker. I logged off because it was time to log off? We all have to go sometime? Where are you now? Not answering me straight away huh? the google link was a whole page of them. I didnt say water powered car i said water powered engine - dont go changing it now. heres wiki on the matter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_engine SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:08am gold_medal wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:55pm:
Actually that logic is not valid since if they were "found guilty of fabricating stories" then they wouldn't be doing it now would they. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:30am Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 11:22pm:
Hear hear Nail, I wonder if the people in his church know about the statements he posts here? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:57am Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2012 at 10:35pm:
What a delicious wany to offer your debating surrender... You are admitting that they dont exist... |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:00am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:08am:
are you seriously that naive and stupid? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:03am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 6:05am:
you really are stupid, arent you. Irredeemably and thoroughly denser than lead. There isnt any point in debating with you since Ive seen 4-legged animals display more intelligence than you. water-powered cars ars a con and a fake. And only fools and morons believe in them - ergo politicalpuppet and SOB (stupid old bat). |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:06am gold_medal wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:03am:
If an engine can be run on water so can a car. The oil companies have all the patents though. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Quantum on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:16am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:06am:
Your wiki page is talking about an engine that works with water pressure. The water does not power the engine, instead, whatever is pressurizing the water is the power source. For this to work on a car it would need to have a system (a pump) to build up and maintain a constant pressurized water source. That system would need to have an energy source, such as petrol/diseal or electricity to run. The water therefore is not powering the car, it is only transferring energy from the true power source. This would be a very inefficient form of transport, as a lot of energy from the true source (petrol for example) is being wasted for no reason. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:40am Quantum wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:16am:
Welcome back quantum, but if you thought lastnail/bobby was stupid, wait until you meet SOB. This is literally someone who cant tell the difference between a steam engine and a water-POWERED car. FD puts up with virtually anything but even he cant stomach the mind-bending stupidity of SOB. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:16pm Quote:
You know what I have noticed? That you compare me with PP and Gist and Pansi a lot. That is a compliment because they are pretty smart cookies. You on the other hand are psycho and prolly about IQ 51. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Verge on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:33pm
I have covered a fair chunk of Oz, SOB, where exactly are these tent communities you speak of. Ive never seen one.
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:41pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
LOL smart??? you really are a dumbie arent you? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:42pm Verge wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:33pm:
Neither has anyone else... |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Quantum on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:12pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:40am:
Thanks. Yes spot does seem to have some issues. I am still trying to work out if he is just a dumb teenager, or an old man who needs to take a few classes on how to read and write in English. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Morning Mist on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:17pm
It's come to light he's 50 years old.
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:27pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
Yeah, but so am I....(nearly) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:35pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
HAHAAHAH...errr *ahem* Well it's all relative innit? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:12pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:06am:
people are not going to worry about patents of a water power car that actually works. Do you think some chinaman on a remote farm is going to worry about US patents and having to pay for fossil fools when he can get the water for next to nothing ?? No one is running a car or engine on water unless they are burning coal to boil the water :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:23pm
<<you really are stupid, arent you. Irredeemably and thoroughly denser than lead. There isnt any point in debating with you since Ive seen 4-legged animals display more intelligence than you.
water-powered cars ars a con and a fake. And only fools and morons believe in ther - ergo politicalpuppet and SOB (stupid old bat)>> .................................................................... Any guesses on the IQ of this poster? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:28pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
50 isnt old. The problem is that SOB is a whole new standard of dumb. 'dumber than snot' comes to mind. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:55pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:28pm:
Any guesses on the IQ of this poster? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:58pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
A lot higher than yours. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:18pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:57am:
Longweekend/Gold, are you seriously asking us all to believe that in Australia: there are not over 100,000 homeless people & many more living in tents? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:43pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:55pm:
minus 1 million :D |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:44pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
If it's out of sight out of mind then that's good enough for a libbo for it not to be a problem :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 14th, 2012 at 6:37am gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:27pm:
Why the heck do you care how old i am? SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 14th, 2012 at 6:38am gold_medal wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 3:28pm:
You are really sounding religious now. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Verge on Aug 14th, 2012 at 8:28am
So SOB, where exactly are these tent communities you speak of. Ive seen a lot of Oz, and Ive never seen one yet. Im interested to know where you have seen them
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:26am Verge wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 8:28am:
On someone's advice i have decided its not in the interests of the ppl in the communities to have idiots like you knowing where they are. If you are blind enough not to see them then that is prolly a good thing. Let the abuse begin . . . . again . . .. . who cares. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:39am
Of course they stay out of site. Would you set up your tent in the main street if you were homeless?
Some people have pride. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:42am Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:44pm:
Yes Nail, So much for his christian ideals. :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Verge on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:45am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:26am:
So you cant even give us a name? Im not asking for an address |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:46am Verge wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:45am:
Frankston Caravan Park Frankston, Victoria? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:50am
Most people living in tents are just using some space in the
backyard of someone's place - maybe a friend or relative. They use the dunny & showers but cook on barbeque gas stoves. It must be cold in winter. Poor people - we are supposed to be the lucky country. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:51am Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:50am:
Not when it comes to - 1) Tax rates 2) Cost of living 3) Olympic Gold Medals |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:55am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:51am:
True Andrei - sometimes we do agree. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:10am Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
how about you find a reliable statistic or report that confirms that? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:11am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 9:26am:
oh how precious that is... you have been 'advised' not to tell anyone where these tent cities are? could that be because they only exist IN YOUR MIND you freaking idiot? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:11am
Longweekend/Gold ,
I think you're wanted on another thread: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1344432696/68#68 |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:13am gold_medal wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:10am:
Try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Australia Quote:
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:18am
Longy will say that doesn't count because it's Wikipedia lol
That hardly needs to be referenced, I would class it as common knowledge. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:19am
Tents or no tents.
I live in the best country in the world. Fact. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:28am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:19am:
You actually live in a big sh1te hole, but then again you probably enjoy the smell of the rotting corpses of the veterans as they die cold and homeless on the streets. What's the US debt now? $15,926,700,250,631 and climbing http://www.usdebtclock.org/ |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 11:17am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:18am:
Longy denies that the homeless exist - so much for his christianity. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 11:28am
America - where homes have nylon walls.
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 11:38am
Maybe Longweekend/Gold can rent out his backyard to
some refugees or homeless people? It could be a tent city there. As long as he doesn't mind them using his dunny & shower? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:20pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:19am:
As long as you don't go and see any movies ;) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:21pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 11:17am:
that's because he always wears rose colored glasses !! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:21pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:18am:
'common knowledge' that NO ONE can find a picture of or can specify where they are. Are you people dumb or what? and yes, it is wikipedia where accuracy is hardly ensured. so where is the proof? where are the photos of these 'tent cities'? and not a camping ground or the usual people sleeping rough. you are talking about CITIES - thousands of people in tent cities but funnily enough no one can find them or show a photo. BECAUSE THEY DONT EXIST. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:24pm Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:21pm:
He only sees his church buddies in their Sunday best. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:34pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:24pm:
so no tent city pictures then??? How surprising. You are so gullible you believe anything. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:41pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:10am:
yeh like the ABS unemployment figures where 1 hour a week is counted as a full time job :D LOL that's the sort of rubbery bullshit you like to see :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:42pm
Here's one pic Longy:
Quote:
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Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 14th, 2012 at 2:31pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:28am:
But how am I doing personally? Paid the same as in Aus, pay less tax and pay 60% of your cost of living. Thanks - I'll take this country right now. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:10pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
4 kids, with barely 9 months between them. Personal responsibility? WTF is that? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:16pm ... wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:10pm:
Is that Buzz's caravan in the background? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:35pm ... wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:10pm:
All may have been well for a while. Everyone working raising a family etc then - oops cambell newman gets in and there goes the jobs and cant pay the mortgage and have lots of kids. Just an example. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Verge on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:40pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:35pm:
Yeah, because Campbell Newman has been in power this whole time. Oh thats right, he hasnt. You are being foolish and less than amusing. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:48pm Verge wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:40pm:
Even more baffling is how Campbell newman being elected in QLD has affected this family in Perth. Why is it so hard for people to call a spade a spade these days? Always ready with excuses. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 14th, 2012 at 4:06pm Verge wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:40pm:
Obviously you cant read. Obviously you also have no imagination. It was an EXAMPLE. See where i said that? See you could think of a few reasons yourself using that as an example of how they came to be in that situation with all those kids. . . . .seems you are bing ignorant and less than imaginative and also a total wanker. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 14th, 2012 at 4:08pm ... wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:48pm:
You too? I said it was an example. Anything could have happened. In fact it looks like an advert for camper vans. Seriously they may not have been in trouble when they had the kids is all im saying. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 14th, 2012 at 6:26pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 2:31pm:
have you bought yourself a gun yet because you'll need one ;) No social and medical welfare means lots of desperate people on the street :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:55pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
one family and once caravan does not a tenty city make. it isant as if families soemtimes ending up in tents and caravans is an new thing. it has happened all the time, but you are saying they are CITIES implying thousands , no TENS of thousands in these tent cities. So where is the evidence? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:50am gold_medal wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:55pm:
Prove that the people in the TT report are liars otherwise shut the bugger up moron. christian loser !! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:23am
Well they were talking about the tent cities @ the mining towns again on ABC24 this morning. Showed pictures too. Perhaps you should watch the news then longy? Maybe you will see them. Apparently there are plenty of jobs but no accommodation.
Of course thats a whole new lot of ppl that are homeless isnt it. Apparently there was land put aside to make housing estates and even sold to developers then the govt wouldn't approve the building because the mining industry said they needed the land to mine - so no new houses and some ripped off investors. This is the thing - there are a lot of ppl that simply cant find accommodation. If it does exist its too expensive. Some of these ppl are not broke and are working. The govt is not approving developments. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by pansi1951 on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:25am
I saw it on the 7.30 Report last night, Muswellbrook, loads of people in tents. Something to do with coal mining, which incidentally the town don't want, even the businesses.
In some towns the rents and food have sky-rocketed, and there's such a desperate lack of accommodation that families are forced to live in tents. Adam Harvey reports on one such community in NSW. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3567907.htm |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:08am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:25am:
hey gold_muppet are you satisfied now ?? It's pathetic how this whole thread has turned into a debate about the credibility of the evidence instead of the actual issue of homelessness. Just another one of gold_muppets strawman fallacies designed to derail the debate :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am
United States of America
Best country in the world. fact. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Kat on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:31am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
As the great Eric Morcambe once said,..."Rubbish!". |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:32am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
as long as everyone has got a gun :( |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Kat on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am The tent-cities are only visible if you don't look at them. Look at them, you won't see them. A bit like the Weeping Angels in Dr Who.... |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:45am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:25am:
What has it got to do with anything here? Hmmm? Piss off troll. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:46am Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Heh they are going to eat us up though SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:59am Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Who cares? Why do you give a sh*t if you aren't in one of them? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:24pm
The nanny state is the problem - again.
You know what I'd love to do? Build my own home. Not the pussy version people refer to when they say they're "building their own home" these days - which is just paying some fat oaf to slap some bricks together, and charge $200,000 for the privilege. No, I want to actually build my home, with my own two hands. It wouldn't be as flash as the one I'm in now, but it would protect my family and I from the elements. You know, what a home is supposed to do? But I am denied that right, and all because of the useless parasite class known as the bureaucracy, whos sole purpose in life is to make things harder for everyone. Seriously. Zoning, council approval, building codes, mandatory additions...the list goes on. So, I either slave away day in, day out, paying 10 years income just to put a roof over our heads, or I'm out on the street. There is no middle ground, you're either a slave, or you'll be destroyed. If I am happy living in a shitbrick hut, what business is it of the fat bitch behind the desk at the council offices? Well, it shouldn't be anything to do with her, except that it contradicts her very reason for existing - to make things more difficult for everyone. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:29pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:59am:
spoken like a true libbo :( I see you haven't got your battlers hat on today. Maybe if house prices go down again you will put your battlers hat on again ;) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by thelastnail on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:35pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:45am:
I'm suprised Hicks doesn't go on about the price of fish on mars :D |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by FriYAY on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:36pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
Ditch the kids and hubby and i'd give her a place to stay.....and a job. :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
do you have any building skills? and those building codes you so hate are there to protect your family and anyone who visits. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:20pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
yeh, thats what they say. But I'm quite capable of gauging acceptable risk, thank you very much. Heres a real case of what I'm talking about: Quote:
And of course, the tree house was taken down. Who has the resources to fight the pettiness of the bureaucracy? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:20pm:
why have you ever built anything bigger than a lego house? |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:59pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:20pm:
small problem... he built a tree house in someone elses tree ie the councils. He had no right to do so in the first place. Build it in your OWN tree and then take your OWN risks. its not a nanny state. It is a silly man making a silly decision to do something he never had the right to do. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:02pm Quote:
LOL. yeah, so what you do on your own property is your own business, right? If only. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:40pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:02pm:
If you build a tree house in MY tree on my property I dont care how good it is or how cute your kids are. it comes down. He can build it on his own property. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:44pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:40pm:
alright, but what I was getting at was the requirement to get "council approval" for any minor additions you might want to do on your own property. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:48pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:44pm:
well when you ask it like that it suddenly becomes a different question. However, 'minor addition' is hardly a detailed thing. Ive done extensions and three times had to get council approval and never find it even remotely difficult. Only one required a licensed builder but unless you REALLY know what you are doing then why is that a problem? details... :) |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:56pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:48pm:
Principle man! It doesn't sit right with me to ask permission, and pay money, to do something on my own property. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:03pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:20pm:
Looks like something from england. Here ppl have back yards. SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:05pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:44pm:
Do you have to get permission to build a tree house? I dont think so? Maybe . . .. no-one ever bothered me about my shed. . . SOB |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:09pm ... wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:56pm:
They are also protecting the poor mug that buys your property next only to be lumbered with dangerous jery-built additions. Also the people that come to you house and a brick wall falls on them etc... Its a little bit more complex than you make it. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:11pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:05pm:
it depends on the council and the size of the shed. I had to get permission for my shed but it is reasonably large. Mind you, the permission took a few weeks and was easy-as. Just had to follow a few basic planning rules such as 80cm away from the fence line etc. Pretty trivial exercise all up. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Elvis Wesley on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:17pm gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 6:09pm:
It doesn't have to be. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Kat on Aug 15th, 2012 at 8:28pm Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:37am:
MIAOW! |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Annie Anthrax on Aug 15th, 2012 at 8:41pm Soren wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:27pm:
Liar. You'd let them in if they were pale enough. |
Title: Re: US style tent cities coming to a suburb near you ! Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:19am Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 8:28pm:
Haha i almost posted that the other day when you said that but forgot. SOB |
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