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Message started by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm

Title: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by adelcrow on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by Maqqa on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by adelcrow on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by skippy. on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:03pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Adel is right ,matty, you should come back to the GREENS meetings, you know the ones? Like
last time up the road from KFC at Top Ryde.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:05pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.


I am not part of union, and this is pretty much the reason why.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:06pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Adel is right ,matty, you should come back to the GREENS meetings, you know the ones? Like
last time up the road from KFC at Top Ryde.


You do know that I don't have a damn call what you're talking about don't you?

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by adelcrow on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:07pm

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.


I am not part of union, and this is pretty much the reason why.



Everyone should get a bonus for doing a good job..

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by skippy. on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm
>:(
sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Adel is right ,matty, you should come back to the GREENS meetings, you know the ones? Like
last time up the road from KFC at Top Ryde.


You do know that I don't have a damn call what you're talking about don't you?

LOL nudge nudge wink wink. ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by Maqqa on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:09pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.


I am not part of union, and this is pretty much the reason why.



Everyone should get a bonus for doing a good job..


Yeah - free hookers for every union worker who does a good job

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:14pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm:
>:(
sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Adel is right ,matty, you should come back to the GREENS meetings, you know the ones? Like
last time up the road from KFC at Top Ryde.


You do know that I don't have a damn call what you're talking about don't you?

LOL nudge nudge wink wink. ;) ;) ;)


Please stop wasting my time.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by adelcrow on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:14pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.


I am not part of union, and this is pretty much the reason why.



Everyone should get a bonus for doing a good job..


Yeah - free hookers for every union worker who does a good job



Why not?..its not the public service

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:15pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.


I am not part of union, and this is pretty much the reason why.



Everyone should get a bonus for doing a good job..


Yeah - free hookers for every union worker who does a good job


How about the head of the union getting $400,000 and his wife getting the same for typing?

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by skippy. on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm:
>:(
sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Adel is right ,matty, you should come back to the GREENS meetings, you know the ones? Like
last time up the road from KFC at Top Ryde.


You do know that I don't have a damn call what you're talking about don't you?

LOL nudge nudge wink wink. ;) ;) ;)


Please stop wasting my time.

you would be wasting your own time matty, you keep replying to me in your endevour to gain as much attention as you can. ::)

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by adelcrow on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm
Many businesses pay for hookers for their CEO's and important clients..wots the difference

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by Maqqa on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:18pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
Many businesses pay for hookers for their CEO's and important clients..wots the difference


If you have proof - please provide evidence so we can prosecute them

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:20pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:08pm:
>:(
sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.


Ive got news for you..neither Labor or the Coalition give a toss about the working class.
All you'll ever get is lip service and lies

Adel is right ,matty, you should come back to the GREENS meetings, you know the ones? Like
last time up the road from KFC at Top Ryde.


You do know that I don't have a damn call what you're talking about don't you?

LOL nudge nudge wink wink. ;) ;) ;)


Please stop wasting my time.

you would be wasting your own time matty, you keep replying to me in your endevour to gain as much attention as you can. ::)


You're right I am wasting my time responding to you. You won't listen to reason and won't believe I'm not Matty, whoever he is. Please do me the favour of not replying to any of my posts and threads.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by sexy_beast on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:21pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
Many businesses pay for hookers for their CEO's and important clients..wots the difference


Two wrongs don't make a right.

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by skippy. on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:21pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
Many businesses pay for hookers for their CEO's and important clients..wots the difference


If you have proof - please provide evidence so we can prosecute them

Why Would you prosecute anyone? It's not illegal. Would you prefer to be provided with a goat?

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by adelcrow on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:29pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
Many businesses pay for hookers for their CEO's and important clients..wots the difference


If you have proof - please provide evidence so we can prosecute them



No worries Maqqa..you know the drill so dont play the innocent schoolboy card

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by gold_medal on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:41pm

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

gold_medal wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 5:01pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:57pm:
Because you pay union fees so they can pay for hookers


A good union rep should get free hookers as a bonus


they already do. paid by union funds. why do you think no one cared about the credit car bill? probably half the male staff use the same place and a few of the women.


I am not part of union, and this is pretty much the reason why.



Everyone should get a bonus for doing a good job..


Yeah - free hookers for every union worker who does a good job


"sarcasm, right?" (Dr Sheldon Cooper)

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by TheGreenLight on Aug 15th, 2012 at 8:47pm
How could any working class person vote for the Coalition?

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by brumbie on Aug 15th, 2012 at 9:06pm

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.



Thank you for that most informative post,from what I can amass,you are voting liberals because you want to be different to those around you and you have successfully convinced your family to do likewise...I personally am in the balance but i  hope i can come up with a convincing argument to myself on which way to vote...one like yours perhaps?

Title: Re: Why does Labor take the working class for granted?
Post by aquascoot on Aug 15th, 2012 at 9:22pm

sexy_beast wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 4:55pm:
I can tell you as a working class person myself, that I never have, and never will vote Labor in my life. I've voted Liberal in every election, and will. They are the party for me. Most of my family have traditiinally voted Labor, but not anymore. I live ina mostly working class area in Banyo, Qld, and most people are leaving Labor in droves. Our state electorate was always Labor up until this year, when we voted in the LNP candidate. Labor thought that it could just do nothing and we'd keep voting them in, but that's not going to happen.

That's why they only have 7 states in the whole state out of a possible 89, and that's why they'll be lucky to even have 1 or 2 out of 30 after the next federal election.



i think the lower paid workers and the lower paid small business people feel sort of left out and ignored by both major parties and the greens.

if there were 2 blokes who knew how to appeal to this demographic they were probably bob hawke and john howard who seemed to know how to talk to people.

this demographic (who probably decide most elections) dont pay much attention to politics and probably have little interest in human rights, gay marriage and saving the whales.

they just want to be left alone to watch footy, pay their bills, afford their kids weddings etc.

deserved or not julia has a terrible profile in qld.
the states probably a bit red neck, i dont think they like her lawyer speak monotone. they sort of think she is sneaky re getting rid of kevvie (a qlder)  and they tend to be a bit stubborn and dont really change their mind once theyve taken a dislike to someone.

for instance, i really like phil goulds comments on the footy but EVERY qlder i speak to hates gould and it seems the same for julia.
tony abbot also seems incredibly awkward and just not plain spoken like a campbell newman or dare i say it a JOH.

and why was joh so poular.  he did virtually nothing. he only came on telly to crack up at the media (feed the chooks as he said).

really  , julia is the antithesis of joh and i think youre right. i think she's going to be decimated up here. she may not deserve it but thats the vibe i get.

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