Three NZ soldiers killed in Afghanistan

Date
    August 20, 2012 -


Three New Zealand soldiers serving with the Provincial Reconstruction Team in Afghanistan have been killed after their vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb.    :(

The incident happened in the northeast of Bamyan province about 9.20am on Sunday (local time), the New Zealand Defence Force said.

The last vehicle in a convoy was hit by a roadside bomb, northwest of Do Abe, on the road to Romero.

The remaining personnel in the patrol secured the location and waited for additional support.


"We are deeply saddened by this loss," Chief of Defence Force Lieutenant General Rhys Jones said.

"On behalf of the entire New Zealand Defence Force, I extend my deepest sympathies to the families, colleagues and friends of the personnel involved."

Next of kin have been informed.

The three deaths come just two weeks after Lance Corporals Pralli Durrer and Rory Malone were shot by Afghan insurgents near Do Abe.    :(

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/three-nz-soldiers-killed-in-afghanistan-20120820-24h08.html#ixzz241eyZtXb

Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing.

Can someone remind us why we're there again?

War on terror lol

War on horror lol

War on scary things lol

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 6:58am:

Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol

They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse.

Absolutely disgusting that you think you have the right to decide when our soldiers die in vain.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 6:58am:

Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol

Nice you find it funny.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 3:39pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:13pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse. Absolutely disgusting that you think you have the right to decide when our soldiers die in vain.

Not a fan of liberal democracy I see. The Taliban is such a model to aspire to!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 3:42pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol Nice you find it funny.

pansi is never happier than when a serviceman and in this case a service woman has been killed serving their country.

She must live a truly desolate life to find joy in the deaths of other human beings.  >:(

You two know quite well that the lol was about the war on terror and horror.

We have been through this before.

Braindead or what!

again for the braindead or what brigade.

TERROR

WAR ON HORROR

WAR

ON TERROR

AND

HORROR

WAR ON

SCARY!!!

lol lol lol lol

not funny. :-X

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:39pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:13pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse. Absolutely disgusting that you think you have the right to decide when our soldiers die in vain. Not a fan of liberal democracy I see. The Taliban is such a model to aspire to!

I never saw the Taliban starving billions of people or killing millions of innocent men, women and children.

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 3:54pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:42pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol Nice you find it funny. pansi is never happier than when a serviceman and in this case a service woman has been killed serving their country. She must live a truly desolate life to find joy in the deaths of other human beings.  >:(

Yeah, its much better to support the death of arabs and so on.

meh

... wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:21pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:18pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:43pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:39pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:13pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse. Absolutely disgusting that you think you have the right to decide when our soldiers die in vain. Not a fan of liberal democracy I see. The Taliban is such a model to aspire to! I never saw the Taliban starving billions of people or killing millions of innocent men, women and children. Yeah but you never saw anyone doing that.

Wow, you sure proved me wrong.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:18pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:43pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:39pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:13pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse. Absolutely disgusting that you think you have the right to decide when our soldiers die in vain. Not a fan of liberal democracy I see. The Taliban is such a model to aspire to! I never saw the Taliban starving billions of people or killing millions of innocent men, women and children.

You're talking about Russia under Stalin, right?

How about the millions of people the West has saved through foreign aid? How much has the Taliban handed out to needy nations?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

You two know quite well that the lol was about the war on terror and horror. We have been through this before. Braindead or what! again for the braindead or what brigade. TERROR WAR ON HORROR WAR ON TERROR AND HORROR WAR ON SCARY!!! lol lol lol lol

Only you find that use of laughing out loud appropriate on EVERY story that deals with the death of aussie or now kiwi soldiers.

You find this acceptable because you are vile little person devoid of any compassion.

How about you just shut the bugger up and not say anything at all.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:22pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:18pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:43pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:39pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:13pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:58am: Sad that young men have nothing better to do than give their lives up for nothing. Can someone remind us why we're there again? War on terror lol War on horror lol War on scary things lol They're not 'there for nothing.' They're there for a noble cause. They only die in vain if nihilists like you control the discourse. Absolutely disgusting that you think you have the right to decide when our soldiers die in vain. Not a fan of liberal democracy I see. The Taliban is such a model to aspire to! I never saw the Taliban starving billions of people or killing millions of innocent men, women and children. You're talking about Russia under Stalin, right? How about the millions of people the West has saved through foreign aid? How much has the Taliban handed out to needy nations?

If 'aid' is the best argument you can come up with please leave now.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

Yeah, its much better to support the death of arabs and so on.

Where did I say that moron?

How about you shut the bugger up as well.

Sick of you smacking trolls crapping on every time some poor soldier get killed serving his / her country.

Quote:

saul doucheman wrote If 'aid' is the best argument you can come up with please leave now.

I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment.
It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people.

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:27pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:20pm: Yeah, its much better to support the death of arabs and so on. Where did I say that moron? How about you shut the bugger up as well. Sick of you smacking trolls crapping on every time some poor soldier get killed serving his / her country.

What have I done in anyway to be offensive to the soldier?
Isn't it more offensive to continue to support sending them to their pointless deaths? Its not gunna be long until we send more soldiers to another pointless war you know...

By the way she wasn't serving her country, she was serving other countries and corporations etc..

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:30pm:

I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people.

So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux.
Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself.

You have failed your duty.

You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths.

I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:20pm: Yeah, its much better to support the death of arabs and so on. Where did I say that moron? How about you shut the bugger up as well. Sick of you smacking trolls crapping on every time some poor soldier get killed serving his / her country. What have I done in anyway to be offensive to the soldier? Isn't it more offensive to continue to support sending them to their pointless deaths? Its not gunna be long until we send more soldiers to another pointless war you know... By the way she wasn't serving her country, she was serving other countries and corporations etc..

You were supporting that idiot pansi's statement who as a typical scumbag troll decided to use 'lol' in her post as she always does when a serviceman or woman is killed.

Either keep out of the conversation or wear the sh1t that come with it.

I have no doubt you have never served a single day in uniform and you believe that you know everything there is know about what constitutes 'service', well you don't, so excuse me if I don't give a bugger what your opinion is.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths. I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West.

You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:40pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:31pm: BigOl64 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:27pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:20pm: Yeah, its much better to support the death of arabs and so on. Where did I say that moron? How about you shut the bugger up as well. Sick of you smacking trolls crapping on every time some poor soldier get killed serving his / her country. What have I done in anyway to be offensive to the soldier? Isn't it more offensive to continue to support sending them to their pointless deaths? Its not gunna be long until we send more soldiers to another pointless war you know... By the way she wasn't serving her country, she was serving other countries and corporations etc.. You were supporting that idiot pansi's statement who as a typical scumbag troll decided to use 'lol' in her post as she always does when a serviceman or woman is killed. Either keep out of the conversation or wear the sh1t that come with it. I have no doubt you have never served a single day in uniform and you believe that you know everything there is know about what constitutes 'service', well you don't, so excuse me if I don't give a bugger what your opinion is.

I can't help but notice you never got around to showing us what was wrong with pansi's post did you?

I would be happy to defend my country but no you are right I am not going to fight someone else's war.

You know that we were not serving Australia, I know it sucks to admit it but its true.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths. I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West. You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.

Arh, another one of these 'everything is the West's fault' posts.

Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.

Brilliant logic.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

I can't help but notice you never got around to showing us what was wrong with pansi's post did you? I would be happy to defend my country but no you are right I am not going to fight someone else's war. You know that we were not serving Australia, I know it sucks to admit it but its true.

1. You're a troll so no I'm not going to sh1t for you,

2. You're what the defence community refers to totally clueless fvcktard but not as nicely,

3. As a totally clueless troll, my time talking to has come to an end, as this is pointless.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths. I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West. You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite. Arh, another one of these 'everything is the West's fault' posts. Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. Brilliant logic.

So if that's the only response you have then we will count it as surrender and you have officially failed your duty.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths. I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West. You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite. Arh, another one of these 'everything is the West's fault' posts. Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. Brilliant logic. So if that's the only response you have then we will count it as surrender and you have officially failed your duty.

An 'is that all you got' slogan isn't actually an argument.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths. I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West. You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite. Arh, another one of these 'everything is the West's fault' posts. Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. Brilliant logic. So if that's the only response you have then we will count it as surrender and you have officially failed your duty. An 'is that all you got' slogan isn't actually an argument.

It is when you haven't given a legitimate response to my point.

LOL!!!!

I can say what I like bigoldangryexsoldier

and what I want to say right now is

LOL

Let's have a war on terror lol!!

Did we find terror yet?

or are we still looking

like we're still looking for the weapons in Iraq?

The war on terror is a big joke

the unfortunate thing is innocent people die and people like you support it. The blood's on your hands, not mine.

You won't find terror, will you?

That's why you're pulling out with your tail between your legs.

The sad thing is that people are still dying even though the coalition of the killing is giving up.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:59pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:51pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm: I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment. It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people. So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux. Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself. You have failed your duty. You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths. I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West. You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite. Arh, another one of these 'everything is the West's fault' posts. Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. Brilliant logic. So if that's the only response you have then we will count it as surrender and you have officially failed your duty. An 'is that all you got' slogan isn't actually an argument. It is when you haven't given a legitimate response to my point.

I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.

Quote:

I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.

If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Quote: I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?

So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:26pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Quote: I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid? So the Taliban is the one at fault here? Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top:

Quote:

You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.

George W launched the war in Afghanistan as the war on terror. How has it now become the war on burqa's?

America, with the biggest porn industry really cares about women, don't they?

You say women in burqa's are oppressed. They say women who have to get copious amounts of plastic surgery and wear skimpy clothes to please their men are oppressed.

So who is oppressed?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Quote: I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid? So the Taliban is the one at fault here? Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first. Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top: [quote]You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.

[/quote]

I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:31pm:

George W launched the war in Afghanistan as the war on terror. How has it now become the war on burqa's? America, with the biggest porn industry really cares about women, don't they? You say women in burqa's are oppressed. They say women who have to get copious amounts of plastic surgery and wear skimpy clothes to please their men are oppressed. So who is oppressed?

1.The war morphed from being on terrorism to a human rights agenda.

2. Women choose to go into porn, have plastic surgery, wear skimpy clothes.

3. The burqa is forced, not chosen.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Quote: I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid? So the Taliban is the one at fault here? Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first. Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top: [quote]You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.

I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.
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There is no cause and effect.

http://dermimages.med.jhmi.edu/images/Anthrax_1_070703.jpg

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:36pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Quote: I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid? So the Taliban is the one at fault here? Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first. Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top: [quote]You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite. I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.

There is no cause and effect.[/quote]

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Looks like someone chinned DRAH with a beauty.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:40pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:36pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm: Quote: I responded with a legitimate point. Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for: Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault. Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault. If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid? So the Taliban is the one at fault here? Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first. Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top: [quote]You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies. I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite. I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little. There is no cause and effect.

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you are the one who started talking about it because you cant legitimately respond to my comments so you explain it

America can't even honour its own deal with Karzai.
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Fighting the ally? Karzai orders Afghan forces to capture US detention facility

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has criticized the U.S. military for violating an agreement and illegally continuing to hold Afghans as prisoners against the orders of the Afghan government and courts.

The deal, signed in March, gave the US six months to transfer the captured Afghans – an agreement the US has not upheld. Karzai released a statement Monday calling the failure to hand over detainees “a serious breach of the Memorandum of Understanding.” The Afghan president also ordered his forces to seize control of the Parwan detention facility, where US forces continue to hold prisoners in a closed-off section, many of which were recently captured.

Karzai spokesman Aimal Faizi told reporters that US troops are illegally holding more than 70 detainees whose release has been ordered by Afghan courts. Afghan courts have acquitted 57 of these prisoners, but the US has still refused to let them go, citing them as a danger to US national security.

The two countries had signed a detainee transfer pact in March, giving the US six months to hand over control of detention facilities and detainees to the Afghans in preparation of the 2014 US withdrawal. Although the official handover occurred in September, the US refused to turn over several hundred prisoners that they felt were too dangerous or that they captured after the deal was signed.

Faizi said hundreds of new prisoners are now being held in the Parwan detention facility and that US night raids have taken in about 100 additional Afghans per month.

US military officials argued that Afghanistan was not ready to take control of all prisoners. They have also demanded that Afghans agree to hold some detainees, who are considered too dangerous to be freed, without a trial. But imprisonment without a trial is against Afghan law, Faizi said. The spokesman told reporters that the Obama administration had been given a two-month extension to make an alternative proposal to holding detainees without trial. But this grace period has now ended.

“These acts are completely against the agreement that has been signed between Afghanistan and the US president,” Karzai’s statement read.

“There is nothing by the name of ‘administrative detention’ in our laws, yet the US is insisting that there are a number of people who, while there is not enough evidence against them, are a threat to US national security,” Faizi said.

http://rt.com/usa/news/karzai-afghan-us-detention-083/

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:31pm: George W launched the war in Afghanistan as the war on terror. How has it now become the war on burqa's? America, with the biggest porn industry really cares about women, don't they? You say women in burqa's are oppressed. They say women who have to get copious amounts of plastic surgery and wear skimpy clothes to please their men are oppressed. So who is oppressed? 1.The war morphed from being on terrorism to a human rights agenda. 2. Women choose to go into porn, have plastic surgery, wear skimpy clothes. 3. The burqa is forced, not chosen.

Not always on either count

Most devout muslim women choose to wear the burka

How do you feel about nuns?

SOB

It's a western misconception that Muslim women would like to be slutty, they don't. I'm not saying slutty is a bad look, it's just not for all cultures. The schoolie girls and boys in Bali are very slutty, one little lass chose an outfit that displayed her pubes, it could have been an accident or she could be a fashion tragic, who knows? Muslim women choose a burqa, Aussie women choose the pantiless look, who's wrong? Who cares what people wear, it's an individual thing.

Violent aggressive angry White Men and the massacres of the peace loving people of the world in the name of "democracy"...
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