“The Government condemns the repeated rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip and calls on Hamas to cease these immediately,’’ the PM said.

”Australia supports Israel’s right to defend itself against these indiscriminate attacks. Such attacks on Israel’s civilian population are utterly unacceptable.

Well done.

http://news.com.au/national/hamas-should-stop-attacks-says-julia-gillard/story-fndo4cq1-1226518010810

Yep agreed.

Israel needs our support.

Figgers. She is a yank puppet afterall.

SOB

Gillard the f.uckwit.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

Gillard the f.uckwit.

For condemning an escalation from a terrorist group firing unguided missiles over the border and supporting suicide bombings?

Yeah shame on her eh?

Some of you need to realize what Israel faces on a daily basis from these primates who surround them.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

Gillard the f.uckwit.

I'll second that!!!

what a stooge!

Her bf has Jewish connections so it's to be expected.

No. Gillard is a f.uckwit and an immoral unethical hypocrite of the highest order for her support of Israel's terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial.

It's Palestinian children getting blown to bits. Last I read it was 4. They might not mean much to you (being brown and all) but I'm sure as hell they meant a lot to their families.

The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children.

Israel is to be applauded for removing such scum from this planet.

Also you may want to look at what those idiots in Gaza are doing, sending unguided missiles over the border to a town that could hit anything.

See the difference?

Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists.
Hamas - Unguided missiles blindly fired into Israel with no care what they hit.

Given your Muslim connections, me thinks you're a tad biased love.

I can't understand why the Gazans are upset. Isn't the desire of muslims to be near Halla? Israel is expediting the wishes of these muslims. What's the problem?

Quote:

The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children.

By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime.


Quote:

Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists

Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'?

Who not what, eh Andrei?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists

Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'?

[/quote]

Because Hamas deliberately fire from civilian areas.
They couldn't give a toss about their own people.

Strange how much of the western world has come out in support of Israel on this one isn't it?
Oh or are they all just anti-Muslim? LOL

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:45pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:34pm: Gillard the f.uckwit. I'll second that!!! what a stooge! Her bf has Jewish connections so it's to be expected.

Annie's husband is a Muslim so is her stance to be expected as well?

Or do you only apply your bias one way?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'?

Because Hamas deliberately fire from civilian areas.
They couldn't give a toss about their own people.

[/quote]


You couldnt be more of a moron if you tried, love. Care to show me which part of Gaza isn't densely populated with civilians? They've been herded in and caged like animals - everywhere is a civilian neighbourhood.

I consider muslims to be filth*.

*My religion allows me to say that.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:57pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'? Because Hamas deliberately fire from civilian areas. They couldn't give a toss about their own people.

You couldnt be more of a moron if you tried, love. Care to show me which part of Gaza isn't densely populated with civilians? They've been herded in and caged like animals - everywhere is a civilian neighbourhood.[/quote]

So you don't think its idiotic to fire missiles from a densely populated area?

Why fire them at all?

What do they think would happen?
Israel just let's them attack them?

Fool.

Quote:

What do they think would happen? Israel just let's them attack them?

That works both ways, yes?

Do your rules apply for everyone Andrei?
What about the Jews in ww2 ghettos? Were they allowed to defend themselves?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Quote: What do they think would happen? Israel just let's them attack them? That works both ways, yes?

Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza and there is no soldier left in the territory.
Israel restricts the border but given these people are trying to enter its country, it is entitled to do so.

Hamas continue to fire rockets into Israel and support suicide bombs despite having full control of Gaza.

It is they who are to blame.

Shane B wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:22pm:

“The Government condemns the repeated rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip and calls on Hamas to cease these immediately,’’ the PM said. ”Australia supports Israel’s right to defend itself against these indiscriminate attacks. Such attacks on Israel’s civilian population are utterly unacceptable. Well done. http://news.com.au/national/hamas-should-stop-attacks-says-julia-gillard/story-fndo4cq1-1226518010810

what would you expect?

Ah, nice to see the usual garbage from the usual idiots (Andrei/salad dim)


Both "governments" should be condemned for all of this idiocy. Hamas for targeting civilians. Isarel for killing children and civilians in their latest "military" attack.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:45pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:34pm: Gillard the f.uckwit. I'll second that!!! what a stooge! Her bf has Jewish connections so it's to be expected.

:D :D :D :D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'?

Because Hamas deliberately fire from civilian areas.
They couldn't give a toss about their own people.

Strange how much of the western world has come out in support of Israel on this one isn't it?
Oh or are they all just anti-Muslim? LOL[/quote]

No they are just pro-yank and sooner or later its going to have to stop.

SOB

salad in wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

I consider muslims to be filth*. *My religion allows me to say that.

As long as there are people with views like this, than the world will never enjoy prolonged peace.
Gillard is just another stooge of the US, and Hillary probably told her what to say.
I,am not very informed about the situation in this area, but what I noticed from the media, the Israelis always manage to kill ten Palestinians for a loss of one Israeli.
If it were not for the US, Israel could not throw its weight around so much, but I don't agree with the idea that Muslims should have the right to take over the world.
The UN should be more vocal and active on the animosity between the Islamic and Western world, if that is possible, because the UN seems to be another stooge of the US.

Who cares about what a red head says?

What is the UN doing?

hawil wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 3:32pm:

salad in wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 2:00pm: I consider muslims to be filth*. *My religion allows me to say that. As long as there are people with views like this, than the world will never enjoy prolonged peace. Gillard is just another stooge of the US, and Hillary probably told her what to say. I,am not very informed about the situation in this area, but what I noticed from the media, the Israelis always manage to kill ten Palestinians for a loss of one Israeli. If it were not for the US, Israel could not throw its weight around so much, but I don't agree with the idea that Muslims should have the right to take over the world. The UN should be more vocal and active on the animosity between the Islamic and Western world, if that is possible, because the UN seems to be another stooge of the US.

Israel dont need the yanks Rembember the 6 day war
they beat the shyte out of thr towel heads ;D ;D ;D ;D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:37pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:34pm: Gillard the f.uckwit. For condemning an escalation from a terrorist group firing unguided missiles over the border and supporting suicide bombings? Yeah shame on her eh? Some of you need to realize what Israel faces on a daily basis from these primates who surround them.

Agreed.
It wont be long before the IDF enters Gaza again to root out the terrorists.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 3:48pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:37pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:34pm: Gillard the f.uckwit. For condemning an escalation from a terrorist group firing unguided missiles over the border and supporting suicide bombings? Yeah shame on her eh? Some of you need to realize what Israel faces on a daily basis from these primates who surround them. Agreed. It wont be long before the IDF enters Gaza again to root out the terrorists.

Who would of thought you would agree with a terrorist supporter...
Why would the IDF enter somewhere else when they could root themselves out where they are now?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 2:04pm: Quote: What do they think would happen? Israel just let's them attack them? That works both ways, yes? Israel is a fascist country, with fascist 5th column supporters who justify the killing of civilian men women and children. Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza and there is no soldier left in the territory. Israel restricts the border but given these people are trying to enter its country, it is entitled to do so. Hamas continue to fire rockets into Israel and support suicide bombs despite having full control of Gaza. It is they who are to blame.

Israel is a fascist country with fascist 5th column supporters.
How they justify killing civilians is like the fascists of the last century. Stop the blocade.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists

Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'?

[/quote]


becase the terrorist you think are heroes hide deliberately in schools, kindergartens and on many occasions LITERALLY behind women and children.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 2:24pm:

Ah, nice to see the usual garbage from the usual idiots (Andrei/salad dim) Both "governments" should be condemned for all of this idiocy. Hamas for targeting civilians. Isarel for killing children and civilians in their latest "military" attack.

the difference is that only one side fired first - GAZA. and the targetting of a terrorist leader for assassination is a globally accepted modus operandi. terrorists by their very nature lose the protection of host countries.

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:29pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 2:24pm: Ah, nice to see the usual garbage from the usual idiots (Andrei/salad dim) Both "governments" should be condemned for all of this idiocy. Hamas for targeting civilians. Isarel for killing children and civilians in their latest "military" attack. the difference is that only one side fired first - GAZA. and the targetting of a terrorist leader for assassination is a globally accepted modus operandi. terrorists by their very nature lose the protection of host countries.

So you do not support people being able to defend themselves?

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'?

becase the terrorist you think are heroes hide deliberately in schools, kindergartens and on many occasions LITERALLY behind women and children.[/quote]


Another idiot.

Jabari certainly wasn't hiding in a school, was he? And yet still the civilians die.

Gaza has one of the highest population densities in the world. Do you understand what that means?

768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:54pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'? becase the terrorist you think are heroes hide deliberately in schools, kindergartens and on many occasions LITERALLY behind women and children.

Another idiot.

Jabari certainly wasn't hiding in a school, was he? And yet still the civilians die.

Gaza has one of the highest population densities in the world. Do you understand what that means?[/quote]


It means there are to  many bloody mussys.

Another idiot.

Jabari certainly wasn't hiding in a school, was he? And yet still the civilians die.


Who gives a sh1t? I certainly don't.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:29pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 2:24pm: Ah, nice to see the usual garbage from the usual idiots (Andrei/salad dim) Both "governments" should be condemned for all of this idiocy. Hamas for targeting civilians. Isarel for killing children and civilians in their latest "military" attack. the difference is that only one side fired first - GAZA. and the targetting of a terrorist leader for assassination is a globally accepted modus operandi. terrorists by their very nature lose the protection of host countries. So you do not support people being able to defend themselves?

when they attack first? no.

Ghandi might have chosen not to fight back, but his philospohy rarey works.

If you attack a Hells Angel, why do you think he cannot defned himself and in the process beat the crap outta you?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:54pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:27pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: Quote: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. By that reasoning, the IDF and Bibi and his buddies are guilty of the same crime. [quote] Israel - Guided air to surface missile targetting terrorists Then why the obscene civilian casualty rates whenever Israel decides to take out a few 'terrorists'? becase the terrorist you think are heroes hide deliberately in schools, kindergartens and on many occasions LITERALLY behind women and children.

Another idiot.

Jabari certainly wasn't hiding in a school, was he? And yet still the civilians die.

Gaza has one of the highest population densities in the world. Do you understand what that means?[/quote]

Hamas fires rockets from school yards and kindergartens. It's also pretty good at firing from apartment buildings and when Israeli troops last entered Gaza, the Hamas lunatics were quite happy to fire from behind women and children.

and having a high population density does not give you cause to rain death down on others because you decide to fire a rocket at Israeli CIVILIANS.

Dr No wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:55pm:

768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas.

no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot.

Its quite foolish to buy into the propaganda from either side least of all the well oiled Israeli propaganda machine.
The Jewish state is trying to start a major conflict in the region and the way they are going they have been planning it for quite some time.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 6:40pm:

Its quite foolish to buy into the propaganda from either side least of all the well oiled Israeli propaganda machine. The Jewish state is trying to start a major conflict in the region and the way they are going they have been planning it for quite some time.

That is just plain STUPID and then some. Exactly what is the advantage for Israel to start a conflict with Gaza? Come on... construct a valid argument for what they have to gain other than stopping missile attacks. They dont wish to attack other countries and no one is going to help the gazans... they havent any other time!

So do you have an actual argument or just a silly observation?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 2:24pm:

Ah, nice to see the usual garbage from the usual idiots (Andrei/salad dim) Both "governments" should be condemned for all of this idiocy. Hamas for targeting civilians. Isarel for killing children and civilians in their latest "military" attack.

You are welcoming into our country people who hold such vile views so why is mine so bad?

Are the Hamas rockets so selective that they only kill Israeli civilians yet spare children of horrific death? Clever rockets indeed.

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 6:38pm:

no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot.

It ain't hard to figure out what to do is it. Hamas fire rockets and Israel returns fire. Hamas does nothing and Israel does nothing. What would a normal group do, fire rockets or get about their daily lives? Hamas is just plain stupid.

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 6:38pm:

Dr No wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:55pm: 768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas. no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot.

Pffffft

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 6:58pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:38pm: Dr No wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:55pm: 768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas. no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot. Pffffft

thanks for proving my point!  well done!

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:00pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:58pm: gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:38pm: Dr No wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:55pm: 768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas. no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot. Pffffft thanks for proving my point!  well done!

Do you really want me to ask the questions you know you cant answer...again???

Thank you Prime Minister Gillard for your support to us.

1. There is no Israeli in Gaza.
2. They fire rockets and rockets into Israel.
3. Hamas are terrorists.

It is for the people to decide if they want war or peace.
I would like peace myself but if they want war then I know we can bring them hell on earth if they want this.

It is for Gaza to choose.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:11pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:00pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:58pm: gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:38pm: Dr No wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:55pm: 768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas. no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot. Pffffft thanks for proving my point!  well done! Do you really want me to ask the questions you know you cant answer...again???

I know you think you make devastating arguments but you shoudl try getting other people to assess them. Fools always think they make briliant examples while other people facepalm at their stupidity. In fact, the dumber they really are the smarter they think they are. SOB is the perfect example - someone who is mocked by all and sundry, yet is too stupid to notice it.

You run a close second.

I sent this to an Israeli Cabbie mate of mine.

"Hope all your family are okay, even though I do not support this poo fight, no matter who started it.'

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children.

Yes - Israel committed an terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial.

Australia should be condemning Israel's terrorism just as mush as Hamas.

Grow a set Julia.

gold_medal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:11pm: gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:00pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:58pm: gold_medal wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 6:38pm: Dr No wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 5:55pm: 768 rockets have been fired so far this year into Israel by the unwashed backwood scum Hamas. no one seems willing to defend that from the pro-terrorist lot. Pffffft thanks for proving my point!  well done! Do you really want me to ask the questions you know you cant answer...again??? I know you think you make devastating arguments but you shoudl try getting other people to assess them. Fools always think they make briliant examples while other people facepalm at their stupidity. In fact, the dumber they really are the smarter they think they are. SOB is the perfect example - someone who is mocked by all and sundry, yet is too stupid to notice it. You run a close second.

Then logic would dictate that you would be able to explain why arguments of mineare stupid or whatever but you don't.
1. Can you think of a legitimate different between Israel and Nazi Germany?

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. Yes - Israel committed an terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial. Australia should be condemning Israel's terrorism just as mush as Hamas. Grow a set Julia.

Don't be so stupid.
We are a country defending ourself against terrorists.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

1. There is no Israeli in Gaza. 2. They fire rockets and rockets into Israel. 3. Hamas are terrorists. It is for the people to decide if they want war or peace. I would like peace myself but if they want war then I know we can bring them hell on earth if they want this. It is for Gaza to choose.

1. What relevance does this have to anything?
2. Palestine has a right to defend itself.
3. Its pretty hard to argue that something can be terrorism when it is in response to terrorism in my opinion.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:36pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. Yes - Israel committed an terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial. Australia should be condemning Israel's terrorism just as mush as Hamas. Grow a set Julia. Don't be so stupid. We are a country defending ourself against terrorists.

Can you explain how you could be defending when you are illegally occupying them?

We gave Gaza to them. There is no occupation. There is no Israeli there.

Israel will always defend against attacks which threaten our people.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:45pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:41pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:36pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. Yes - Israel committed an terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial. Australia should be condemning Israel's terrorism just as mush as Hamas. Grow a set Julia. Don't be so stupid. We are a country defending ourself against terrorists. Can you explain how you could be defending when you are illegally occupying them?

We are not in Gaza you fool.
There is no occupation. We left years ago.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:46pm:

We gave Gaza to them. There is no occupation. There is no Israeli there. Israel will always defend against attacks which threaten our people.

What exactly do you call this?
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/dj506bdbbf.jpg
Sorry but you obviously do not understand the definition of the word 'defence'. Please consult a dictionary.

Do you know where Gaza is?

Can you explain how you could be defending when you are illegally occupying them?



Who says it's "illegally occupying them"?

You? SOB? The mussy lover Annie?

Hardly any intelligence amongst that trio.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:50pm:

Do you know where Gaza is?

You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially.

Here is a history lesson too, why do you think the borders changed in 1947,1949 and 1967?

Who do you think attacked and lost?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially.

Nor are they occupying Gaza unofficially.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:52pm:

Here is a history lesson too, why do you think the borders changed in 1947,1949 and 1967? Who do you think attacked and lost?

Shouldn't you be home defending the mother country instead of hiding in Australia like a coward?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially.

We are not occupying Gaza at all.
We gave it to them.
Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt.
Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does.

Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends".

Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:56pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:52pm: Here is a history lesson too, why do you think the borders changed in 1947,1949 and 1967? Who do you think attacked and lost? Shouldn't you be home defending the mother country instead of hiding in Australia like a coward?

Who is hiding?
I have served my national service. I leave here now in just 4 weeks now and then home to Eretz Israel.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:52pm:

Here is a history lesson too, why do you think the borders changed in 1947,1949 and 1967? Who do you think attacked and lost?

You will note that under international law it is illegal to gain land via military actions. This makes it an illegal military occupation of Palestinian lands.
If I take you from your house and put you in a Nazi ghetto, that does not make your house mine.

Why should anyone listen to you when you either have no knowledge or respect for common law?


Dr No wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. Nor are they occupying Gaza unofficially.

Well obviously there are going to be agents and the like operating in Gaza.




When one queries the definition of occupation you will find that there essentially is an official occupation of Gaza:

Quote:

oc·cu·pa·tion  (ky-pshn) n. 1. a. The act or process of holding or possessing a place. b. The state of being held or possessed. 2. a. Invasion, conquest, and control of a nation or territory by foreign armed forces. b. The military government exercising control over an occupied nation or territory.

Israel does have pretty much control Gaza in most aspects.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:56pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians.

My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true?

lisa.greek wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians. My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true?

I am in the 1980s born but no that's not correct.
There is different views on the birth of the state of Israel.
My grandparents are there early after they yes are not welcome in Czech Republic when they come from a Nazi camp.
But they are invited by Ben Guriin to come and live in peace in Israel new state.
The intent is for shared states both Arab and Jew but this becomes not possible.
The Arabs attack from day 0

FRED. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

hawil wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 3:32pm: salad in wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 2:00pm: I consider muslims to be filth*. *My religion allows me to say that. As long as there are people with views like this, than the world will never enjoy prolonged peace. Gillard is just another stooge of the US, and Hillary probably told her what to say. I,am not very informed about the situation in this area, but what I noticed from the media, the Israelis always manage to kill ten Palestinians for a loss of one Israeli. If it were not for the US, Israel could not throw its weight around so much, but I don't agree with the idea that Muslims should have the right to take over the world. The UN should be more vocal and active on the animosity between the Islamic and Western world, if that is possible, because the UN seems to be another stooge of the US. Israel dont need the yanks Rembember the 6 day war they beat the shyte out of thr towel heads ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are either naive or very cunning; Israel gets all the technology and money to be the best equipped army in that region.
If the Jews are so heroic, why did they go like lambs to the slaughter in the so called holocaust and not fight back?
If you are going to dye, why not dye fighting.
This does not mean, that I approve of the holocaust, although I might doubt that it was, as it has been portrait and milked by Jews for all they can get out of it.

lisa.greek wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians. My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true?

The reality is that during and after WW2 the Palestinians accepted millions of Jewish refugees who were fleeing the Nazis. Them along with the many Jews who were already living in Palestine owned only a small minority of Palestinian land but lived happily for the most part with them.
The UK and US 'gave' them the majority of land in Palestine, combined forces along with the Jews and Jewish terrorist groups forced Palestinians from their homes etc..
From then Israel slowly claimed the vast majority of Palestinian land, forcing Palestinians into ghettos resembling the ghettos in Nazi occupied lands which the jews were forced in and still complain about to this day.

forcing Palestinians into ghettos resembling the ghettos in Nazi occupied lands

Bullshit.

After a relatively quiet night on the Israeli side of the border, Friday morning saw the renewal of rocket fire from the Gaza Strip toward Israel's south. Several rockets hit residential areas in Ashdod; a woman sustained light injuries and a few residents suffered an anxiety attack following the rocket fire. The Israel Defense Forces struck some 150 targets overnight in Gaza.

On Thursday night, two Fajr rockets were fired toward Tel Aviv. Sirens were sounded in the Tel Aviv area for the first time since the Gulf War in 1991.

Since Operation Pillar of Defense began on Wednesday, Palestinians in Gaza have reported 19 killed and more than 150 wounded, while more than 300 rockets and mortar shells have been fired from Gaza toward Israel, leaving three dead and more than five wounded.. Iron Dome batteries have intercepted more than 130 rockets bound to hit populated areas.

The IDF said that since the operation began with the assassination of Ahmed Jabari, it has struck most of the Fajr launching sites in Gaza. The Iranian-made Fajr rockets, when fired from the northern Gaza Strip, can hit cities in central Israel.

The IDF is now preparing for the possibility of expanding the operation, including the use of ground forces in the Gaza Strip. The IDF General Staff on Friday morning approved the initial draft of 16 thousand army reservists.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/live-blog-rockets-slam-into-israel-s-south-in-third-day-of-idf-operation-in-gaza-1.478193


If there is a draft ii for ground assault, i will be included as I am in the +3 - 7 year post military service reservist band.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

lisa.greek wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:02pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians. My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true? I am in the 1980s born but no that's not correct. There is different views on the birth of the state of Israel. My grandparents are there early after they yes are not welcome in Czech Republic when they come from a Nazi camp. But they are invited by Ben Guriin to come and live in peace in Israel new state. The intent is for shared states both Arab and Jew but this becomes not possible. The Arabs attack from day 0

I guess they had a pretty good propaganda system operating in Israel by then hey...
Those same grandparents who saw death camps in a concentration camp?  :D ;)

Ben Guriin really had nothing to do with it, he may have invited some people but it was the Palestinians who accepted millions of Jewish refugees into Palestine.
The Jews then proceeded to repay their kindness by violently forcing them from their homes and killing thousands of innocent people.
Unfortunately it is not possible to violently and illegally force peoples from their homes and not have some of them defend themselves, although obviously its possible to hypocritically complain when they defend themselves.

Dr No wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:14pm:

forcing Palestinians into ghettos resembling the ghettos in Nazi occupied lands Bullshit.

I will take it back if you can identify a legitimate difference..

Avram why was it ok for people like your 'grandparents' to defend themselves in Nazi ghettos but not ok for Palestinians to defend themselves in Scumraeli ghettos?

Israel is trying to start WW3 so they dont have to deal with Iran alone.
Lets just hope Russia and China get a few nukes into the region to stop Israel from copying the Nazis in WW2 coz the yanks are not gonna try and stop them.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:18pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:09pm: lisa.greek wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:02pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians. My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true? I am in the 1980s born but no that's not correct. There is different views on the birth of the state of Israel. My grandparents are there early after they yes are not welcome in Czech Republic when they come from a Nazi camp. But they are invited by Ben Guriin to come and live in peace in Israel new state. The intent is for shared states both Arab and Jew but this becomes not possible. The Arabs attack from day 0 I guess they had a pretty good propaganda system operating in Israel by then hey... Those same grandparents who saw death camps in a concentration camp?  :D ;) Ben Guriin really had nothing to do with it, he may have invited some people but it was the Palestinians who accepted millions of Jewish refugees into Palestine. The Jews then proceeded to repay their kindness by violently forcing them from their homes and killing thousands of innocent people. Unfortunately it is not possible to violently and illegally force peoples from their homes and not have some of them defend themselves, although obviously its possible to hypocritically complain when they defend themselves.

I am only going to say to you 1 more time, there was a Nazi killing operation at Majdanek where my grandfather was after he is taken from Praha.

Show some respect.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:18pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:09pm: lisa.greek wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:02pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians. My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true? I am in the 1980s born but no that's not correct. There is different views on the birth of the state of Israel. My grandparents are there early after they yes are not welcome in Czech Republic when they come from a Nazi camp. But they are invited by Ben Guriin to come and live in peace in Israel new state. The intent is for shared states both Arab and Jew but this becomes not possible. The Arabs attack from day 0 I guess they had a pretty good propaganda system operating in Israel by then hey... Those same grandparents who saw death camps in a concentration camp?  :D ;) Ben Guriin really had nothing to do with it, he may have invited some people but it was the Palestinians who accepted millions of Jewish refugees into Palestine. The Jews then proceeded to repay their kindness by violently forcing them from their homes and killing thousands of innocent people. Unfortunately it is not possible to violently and illegally force peoples from their homes and not have some of them defend themselves, although obviously its possible to hypocritically complain when they defend themselves. I am only going to say to you 1 more time, there was a Nazi killing operation at Majdanek where my grandfather was after he is taken from Praha. Show some respect.

Already forced to ignore 90% of what I say...History never repeats they say  ::)

I never said people weren't killed there, I said the holocaust didn't happen there.

A terrorist telling people to have respect?

It is the Engineering Corps, they are always the first reservists called.


Gantz issues IDF draft orders for 16,000 reservists

By YAAKOV LAPPIN


IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz issued draft orders for 16,000 reservists on Friday, as Operation Pillar of Defense entered its third day. Most of the reservists serve in the IDF's Engineering Corps.

The engineering corps would play a vital part in any ground operation into the Gaza Strip, enabling armored vehicles to move across the border into Gaza. The IDF operation to root out terror in the coastal territory has consisted of air raids on terror targets thus far.

The Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee unanimously authorized on Thursday Defense Minister Ehud Barak's request to enlist up to 30,000 reservists.

The IDF will issue "order nine," which is an irregular order in cases of emergency for reservists to immediately report to duty.

"The residents of the south are in the real line of fire, and only their strength will allow the IDF to meet its capabilities," Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee chairman Ronnie Bar-On (Kadima) said. "Israel is passing on a clear message to terrorist organizations in Gaza that disrupting life in the South will not continue."

For you aussies who do not know about the situation - which i understand.


Gaza reality

By JERUSALEM POST EDITORIAL

11/15/2012 22:28

While Israel has not only the right but the moral obligation to defend the residents of the South, Operation Pillar of Defense – like Operation Cast Lead – will not change the fundamental dynamics in Gaza.

It was clear that Israel had to act to restore its deterrence in the South. During most of the nearly four years since Operation Cast Lead ended with a strong Israeli victory, Hamas not only refrained from attacking Israel, but also actively prevented other terrorist organizations operating in Gaza – Islamic Jihad, Salafists and al-Qaida affiliated groups – from launching attacks.

But all that has changed. Hamas become increasingly daring.

The rise to power in Egypt of its ally and ideological comrade the Muslim Brotherhood was one factor leading to Hamas’s belligerence. Hamas allowed itself to be more daring, emboldened by the fact that its neighbor, the most populous Arab state, identifies with Hamas’s goals and that the majority of Egyptians are virulent opponents of Israel.

And the Muslim Brotherhood is on the ascendancy elsewhere, from Tunisia and Morocco, where there are Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated governments, to Jordan and Libya. In Syria, the Muslim Brotherhood is one of the largest opposition forces fighting to overthrow the Assad regime.

In the eyes of many Muslims supporting Muslim Brotherhood-oriented movements in the region, or those with an even more religiously extreme, militantly uncompromising position, Hamas is revered for spearheading the offensive against “the Zionist entity.”

A striking sign that Hamas has achieved considerable regional and international legitimacy was the emir of Qatar’s recent visit to the Gaza Strip, which included a promise to provide $400 million in reconstruction aid to the Hamas government.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, interested in cashing in on the Sunni Islamist resurgence brought by the Arab Spring to revive the Ottoman-era Turkish dominance of the region, is also reportedly considering a formal visit to Gaza.

Meanwhile, justifiably or not, the Muslim world perceives the Obama administration as weak. And Hamas is betting that as the conflict in the south drags on, US President Barack Obama will be less outspoken than George W. Bush was in his support of Israel. And Egypt – which is highly dependent on US aid – is betting that it will not be put under enormous US pressure to force Hamas to stop the rocket and mortar fire against Israel.

Under the new geopolitical circumstances, Hamas has not only allowed the various terrorist organizations in Gaza to shoot rockets and mortar shells at civilians in the South and attack IDF patrols. The anti- Semitic terrorist organization – which includes The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in its official Charter – has increasingly launched attacks of its own. The resulting escalations have resulted in nearly 1,000 rockets and mortar shells fired at Israel since the beginning of the year.

Israel was left little choice but to use force to restore deterrence. Hamas must be made to realize that it will pay a hefty price for targeting innocent Israelis. And a broad consensus that spans the mainstream political spectrum supports the move.

But we must keep our expectations to a minimum.

Just as Operation Cast Lead did not fundamentally change the reality on the ground in Gaza, the present military offensive – Operation Pillar of Defense – will not transform the Gaza Strip. Islamist extremists pursuing the reactionary goal of returning the Arab world to an imagined, pristine Islam that purportedly existed centuries ago is on the ascendancy not just in Gaza but across the region.

This message is particularly potent for Gaza’s 1.6 million (and growing) population – 44 percent of whom are aged 14 or under, according to the CIA World Factbook.

Young people tend to be particularly susceptible to the sort of unwavering black-and-white certainty proffered by fundamentalist Islam.

While Israel has not only the right but the moral obligation to defend the residents of the South, Operation Pillar of Defense – like Operation Cast Lead – will not change the fundamental dynamics in Gaza. We hope that, as was the case with Cast Lead, Pillar of Defense will restore our military deterrence, which – in the present geopolitical situation – is the only means of achieving quiet in the South.

The first line is bunk..

Quote:

While Israel has not only the right but the moral obligation to defend the residents of the South, Operation Pillar of Defense – like Operation Cast Lead – will not change the fundamental dynamics in Gaza.

By the definition of the word it is impossible for Israel to be defending itself.

Obviously not going to be worth wasting my time to read the rest of the 'article'.

Israel is trying to start WW3 so they dont have to deal with Iran alone.
Lets just hope Russia and China get a few nukes into the region to stop Israel from copying the Nazis in WW2 coz the yanks are not gonna try and stop them.


What a vile twisted person you are.

Dr No wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

Israel is trying to start WW3 so they dont have to deal with Iran alone. Lets just hope Russia and China get a few nukes into the region to stop Israel from copying the Nazis in WW2 coz the yanks are not gonna try and stop them. What a vile twisted person you are.

Yeah, how dare Iran try and have a way to defend itself against terrorists...

Yeah, how dare Iran try and have a way to defend itself against terrorists...

Pardon?

Maybe Gillard should stop sucking up to faceless racist white men and show a moral back bone... :) :)

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 8:23pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:18pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:09pm: lisa.greek wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 8:02pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:56pm: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:51pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:50pm: Do you know where Gaza is? You will note that I have not said you are occupying internal Gaza officially. We are not occupying Gaza at all. We gave it to them. Guess who had before we. Palestinians? Wrong. Egypt. Egyptians think Palestinians are second class like Jordan does, like Lebanon does, like Tunisians does. Palestinians are treated better by Israel than their Arab "friends". Trust me there is just one people more disliked than Palestinians in their Arab League and it is Iranians. My apologies here - I was born in the 50s so have only history to guide me.    My understanding is that the Jewish people were so despised that no one wanted them.   I also understand that an agreement was reached between Britain and the USA ( plus other countries) that an annexure of another country would be forced to house these apparently unwanted people .   Is this true? I am in the 1980s born but no that's not correct. There is different views on the birth of the state of Israel. My grandparents are there early after they yes are not welcome in Czech Republic when they come from a Nazi camp. But they are invited by Ben Guriin to come and live in peace in Israel new state. The intent is for shared states both Arab and Jew but this becomes not possible. The Arabs attack from day 0 I guess they had a pretty good propaganda system operating in Israel by then hey... Those same grandparents who saw death camps in a concentration camp?  :D ;) Ben Guriin really had nothing to do with it, he may have invited some people but it was the Palestinians who accepted millions of Jewish refugees into Palestine. The Jews then proceeded to repay their kindness by violently forcing them from their homes and killing thousands of innocent people. Unfortunately it is not possible to violently and illegally force peoples from their homes and not have some of them defend themselves, although obviously its possible to hypocritically complain when they defend themselves. I am only going to say to you 1 more time, there was a Nazi killing operation at Majdanek where my grandfather was after he is taken from Praha. Show some respect.

That isnt an answer to the question. There was an israeli killing operation in gaza the other day. You show some respect.

SOB

Why the draft? So they are going to go into gaza and slaughter more ppl? Someone needs to nuke israel.

SOB

people arent seriously comparing nazi concentration camps to palestinian camps are they. ;) ;)

aushwitz....walking skeletons, fighting over a crust of bread.

gaza....big fat arabs , watch the tv footage, they all seem fat to me,  half of em with mobile phones and video cameras,
firing their stupid guns in the air (yes hitler left the jews have guns and rockets)

fair dinkum , you lefties are retarded.

for the 10 th time,  if you want to wail in front of the tv, dont wail for these show pony palestinians, wail for the poor kids in africa that eat a bowl of dirt a day.
oh but theyre not as "trendy' as those dumb arabs that lost a war and then think the victors should be nice to them

i'd say arm the jews with tasers instead of guns but spot and western would probably think this was over the top in terms of brutality ;) ;)

meanwhile spot says "someone should just nuke israel"

go and do some reflection on this subject and then come back and apologize.

meanwhile spot says "someone should just nuke israel"


Does anyone take Spot seriously besides Spot?

The people of Gaza are some of the most impoverished in the world purely because of Israels crimes against humanity and war crimes.
It may be fairer to compare ongoing Jewish crimes with the Serbian atrocities against the Bosnians.

Prevailing wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:15pm:

Maybe Gillard should stop sucking up to faceless racist white men and show a moral back bone... :) :)

It's too late, she's already committed herself to the rat-pack, it would be political suicide to get all 'lefty' and suddenly recognise who the real terrorists are.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 6:21am:

people arent seriously comparing nazi concentration camps to palestinian camps are they. ;) ;) aushwitz....walking skeletons, fighting over a crust of bread. gaza....big fat arabs , watch the tv footage, they all seem fat to me,  half of em with mobile phones and video cameras, firing their stupid guns in the air (yes hitler left the jews have guns and rockets) fair dinkum , you lefties are retarded. for the 10 th time,  if you want to wail in front of the tv, dont wail for these show pony palestinians, wail for the poor kids in africa that eat a bowl of dirt a day. oh but theyre not as "trendy' as those dumb arabs that lost a war and then think the victors should be nice to them i'd say arm the jews with tasers instead of guns but spot and western would probably think this was over the top in terms of brutality ;) ;) meanwhile spot says "someone should just nuke israel" go and do some reflection on this subject and then come back and apologize.

No - i obviously was exaggerating about the nuke because that would take gaza out too but israel needs to be stopped.


SOB

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

The people of Gaza are some of the most impoverished in the world purely because of Israels crimes against humanity and war crimes. It may be fairer to compare ongoing Jewish crimes with the Serbian atrocities against the Bosnians.

i dispute that,  i would imagine they have far better access to nutrition, healthcare, education then many many people in third world countries.
they certainly get the lions share of the attention.
again, note 1500 deaths during the last israeli invasion  versus 2 million in the south sudan war.

they also persist with targeting non combatants in israel and israel shows some restraint in not just annihilating them.

its up to the moderate palestinians to clean up the nutbags in palestine. until they do that, they really cant expect any better treatment.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 6:32am: The people of Gaza are some of the most impoverished in the world purely because of Israels crimes against humanity and war crimes. It may be fairer to compare ongoing Jewish crimes with the Serbian atrocities against the Bosnians. i dispute that,  i would imagine they have far better access to nutrition, healthcare, education then many many people in third world countries. they certainly get the lions share of the attention. again, note 1500 deaths during the last israeli invasion  versus 2 million in the south sudan war. they also persist with targeting non combatants in israel and israel shows some restraint in not just annihilating them. its up to the moderate palestinians to clean up the nutbags in palestine. until they do that, they really cant expect any better treatment.

What a load of crap. Are ordinary citizens in australia expected to capture and kill nutjobs like ivan milat?

SOB

salad in wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

I can't understand why the Gazans are upset. Isn't the desire of muslims to be near Halla? Israel is expediting the wishes of these muslims. What's the problem?

That's just sick. People who have no empathy for the deaths of innocent children are just sick.

What a load of crap. Are ordinary citizens in australia expected to capture and kill nutjobs like ivan milat?

SOB


And you wonder why people laugh at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

MOTR wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:00am:

salad in wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: I can't understand why the Gazans are upset. Isn't the desire of muslims to be near Halla? Israel is expediting the wishes of these muslims. What's the problem? That's just sick.

And suicide bombers aren't?

Dr No wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:01am:

MOTR wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:00am: salad in wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:54pm: I can't understand why the Gazans are upset. Isn't the desire of muslims to be near Halla? Israel is expediting the wishes of these muslims. What's the problem? That's just sick. And suicide bombers aren't?

How does one follow from the other. You do realise innocent children were killed.

This is sick.

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Dr No wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:01am:

What a load of crap. Are ordinary citizens in australia expected to capture and kill nutjobs like ivan milat? SOB And you wonder why people laugh at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Awww no answer to that one then?

SOB

How does one follow from the other. You do realise innocent children were killed.


Are you really that stupid to think that suicide bombers haven't killed children?

My guess is yes you are.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:06am:

Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:01am: What a load of crap. Are ordinary citizens in australia expected to capture and kill nutjobs like ivan milat? SOB And you wonder why people laugh at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Awww no answer to that one then? SOB

I hope you have donated your brain to science in your will. It will make for some interesting research.

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Israel getting its ass handed to it on a plate.....

Dr No wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:06am:

How does one follow from the other. You do realise innocent children were killed. Are you really that stupid to think that suicide bombers haven't killed children? My guess is yes you are.

I didn't say that, or anything close to that. I said it was sick to have no empathy for the deaths of innocent children. Only a moron would conclude that means children have not died at the hands of suicide bombers.

Sectarian Clashes Feared After Suicide Attack Kills Children, Women in Nigerian Church
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/sectarian-clashes-feared-after-suicide-attack-kills-children-women-in-nigerian-church-84100/#Ch2CtQA8FwBxgHOU.99

By Anugrah Kumar , Christian Post Contributor
October 29, 2012|12:40 pm

At least 15 people, mostly children and women, were killed and about 150 others were injured after a suicide bomber disguising himself as a Christian attacked a large Catholic church in northern Nigeria's Kaduna city during Sunday morning service, raising fears of renewed sectarian violence.

A suicide bomber driving a Toyota jeep carrying explosives and led by a motorcyclist attacked Saint Rita's Catholic Church in Kaduna on Sunday morning, according to allafrica.com.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/sectarian-clashes-feared-after-suicide-attack-kills-children-women-in-nigerian-church-84100/#Ch2CtQA8FwBxgHOU.99

According to an Associated Press count, more than 680 people have died in killings and bombings blamed on Boko Haram this year alone.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/sectarian-clashes-feared-after-suicide-attack-kills-children-women-in-nigerian-church-84100/#Ch2CtQA8FwBxgHOU.99

I condemn Gillard for condoning and inciting Israeli Violence against the peace loving Palestinians...
:P :P

Kat wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Israel getting its ass handed to it on a plate.....

Sorry to disappoint, but that won't be happening.

MOTR wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:06am: How does one follow from the other. You do realise innocent children were killed. Are you really that stupid to think that suicide bombers haven't killed children? My guess is yes you are. I didn't say that, or anything close to that. I said it was sick to have no empathy for the deaths of innocent children. Only a moron would conclude that means children have not died at the hands of suicide bombers.

Best you re read your posts.

Shane B wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:15am:

Kat wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:12am: Nothing would make me happier than seeing Israel getting its ass handed to it on a plate..... Sorry to disappoint, but that won't be happening.

Don't you know Kat is an ex railway man?

Dr No wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

MOTR wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:12am: Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:06am: How does one follow from the other. You do realise innocent children were killed. Are you really that stupid to think that suicide bombers haven't killed children? My guess is yes you are. I didn't say that, or anything close to that. I said it was sick to have no empathy for the deaths of innocent children. Only a moron would conclude that means children have not died at the hands of suicide bombers. Best you re read your posts.

With absolutely no respect intended, Dr. No, you are a moron.

Because Salad in is a sick individual how does it follow that suicide bombers aren't.

You obviously have the IQ of a box of raisins.

MOTR wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:21am:

Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:16am: MOTR wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:12am: Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:06am: How does one follow from the other. You do realise innocent children were killed. Are you really that stupid to think that suicide bombers haven't killed children? My guess is yes you are. I didn't say that, or anything close to that. I said it was sick to have no empathy for the deaths of innocent children. Only a moron would conclude that means children have not died at the hands of suicide bombers. Best you re read your posts. With absolutely no respect intended, Dr. No, you are a moron.

I will accept that as a compliment coming from you.  :-* :-*

again, its just inconsistent from the left.

they support the right of the palestinians to throw every single weapon at their disposal at the jews but expect the jews to pull their punches.

you just dont understand how a conflict works.

could you imagine julius ceasar or geneghis khan or napoleon or more recently churchill or patton  holding back.

holding back only prolongs the pain.
like a brown snake in your back yard or a rabid dog attacking your kids.

you move with overwhelming force and crush those who oppose you.its no good just stirring the snake up with a few rocks, kill the bugger and burn its corpse

this is exactly what the palestinians would do if they had the airforce and the tanks and the jews had the small arms.

when did wars become all touchy feely.
why draw it out for generations and cause generational hate and pain.

attack you enemy, overwhelm your enemy, defeat your enemy and then like the marshall plan in germany rebuild your enemy in your likeness.

if the allies had pulled up on the borders of germany in 1945 we'd probably still be negotiating and putting up missile defence shields in london.

the arabs attacked israel in 66, they lost.
now take it like a man and move on.

the jews problem and americas problem since 1945 is they pussyfoot around probing at the boil,  get a big knife out and cut it as deep and as quickly as you can.  better for all concerned.

aqua - how about stopping the blockade?

That might work.
The Jews need to find out why the Pallys are firing rockets at them.

Dr No wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:18am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:15am: Kat wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:12am: Nothing would make me happier than seeing Israel getting its ass handed to it on a plate..... Sorry to disappoint, but that won't be happening. Don't you know Kat is an ex railway man?

Well, many thanks for that insightful and vitally relevant post... :-)

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

again, its just inconsistent from the left. they support the right of the palestinians to throw every single weapon at their disposal at the jews but expect the jews to pull their punches. you just dont understand how a conflict works. could you imagine julius ceasar or geneghis khan or napoleon or more recently churchill or patton  holding back. holding back only prolongs the pain. like a brown snake in your back yard or a rabid dog attacking your kids. you move with overwhelming force and crush those who oppose you.its no good just stirring the snake up with a few rocks, kill the bugger and burn its corpse this is exactly what the palestinians would do if they had the airforce and the tanks and the jews had the small arms. when did wars become all touchy feely. why draw it out for generations and cause generational hate and pain. attack you enemy, overwhelm your enemy, defeat your enemy and then like the marshall plan in germany rebuild your enemy in your likeness. if the allies had pulled up on the borders of germany in 1945 we'd probably still be negotiating and putting up missile defence shields in london. the arabs attacked israel in 66, they lost. now take it like a man and move on. the jews problem and americas problem since 1945 is they pussyfoot around probing at the boil,  get a big knife out and cut it as deep and as quickly as you can.  better for all concerned.

This is just a red herring, we condemn utterly the Israeli aggression against the peace loving Palestinians and demand the violence is stopped immediately and unconditional surrender to world peace and harmony...stop making excuses for war crimes...
8-) 8-)

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 6:40am:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 10:15pm: Maybe Gillard should stop sucking up to faceless racist white men and show a moral back bone... :) :) It's too late, she's already committed herself to the rat-pack, it would be political suicide to get all 'lefty' and suddenly recognise who the real terrorists are.

Yes but she might win back her soul... :) :)

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 7:36pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm: The guy was the military head of a terrorist organization that has committed atrocities including the bombing of Israeli women and children. Yes - Israel committed an terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial. Australia should be condemning Israel's terrorism just as mush as Hamas. Grow a set Julia. Don't be so stupid. We are a country defending ourself against terrorists.

Don't be stupid.

Israel just committed an an terrorism against Gazan civilians and an illegal assassination

No one is denying that Hamas have also committed terrorist acts.

But it is no excuse for Israel to also practice terrorism.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 1:45pm:

No. Gillard is a f.uckwit and an immoral unethical hypocrite of the highest order for her support of Israel's terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial. It's Palestinian children getting blown to bits. Last I read it was 4. They might not mean much to you (being brown and all) but I'm sure as hell they meant a lot to their families.

There is no Israeli terrorism. There has been Israeli response to 100 indiscriminate rocket attacks of Israeli civilian areas. All sane leaders around the world support the right of a UN member state to defend its civilian population from terrorist attacks like these Hamas rocket attacks.
As for 'without trial', Hamas and all the other islamists outfits organised the kidnapping and imprisonment of Gilad Shalit without trial. They carry out bombings of, always without trial.

What is this mania of treating the terrorist organisations as if they were adolescent delinquents who only need a stern talking-to.

As for the children - you know as well as anyone that the IDF does not target civilians. Islamists militants, like terrorists of every kind, dress like the population they hide behind.



Here's what I want to know: why did Hamas and the other salafist monsters fire 100 rockets into Israel? Why now? WHat's the point?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

again, its just inconsistent from the left. they support the right of the palestinians to throw every single weapon at their disposal at the jews but expect the jews to pull their punches. you just dont understand how a conflict works. could you imagine julius ceasar or geneghis khan or napoleon or more recently churchill or patton  holding back. holding back only prolongs the pain. like a brown snake in your back yard or a rabid dog attacking your kids. you move with overwhelming force and crush those who oppose you.its no good just stirring the snake up with a few rocks, kill the bugger and burn its corpse this is exactly what the palestinians would do if they had the airforce and the tanks and the jews had the small arms. when did wars become all touchy feely. why draw it out for generations and cause generational hate and pain. attack you enemy, overwhelm your enemy, defeat your enemy and then like the marshall plan in germany rebuild your enemy in your likeness. if the allies had pulled up on the borders of germany in 1945 we'd probably still be negotiating and putting up missile defence shields in london. the arabs attacked israel in 66, they lost. now take it like a man and move on. the jews problem and americas problem since 1945 is they pussyfoot around probing at the boil,  get a big knife out and cut it as deep and as quickly as you can.  better for all concerned.

Well said aqua,it is the only way with this,there can never be any negotiation,both sides realise this...a full on frontal is the only way this will be solved.

Soren wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 16th, 2012 at 1:45pm: No. Gillard is a f.uckwit and an immoral unethical hypocrite of the highest order for her support of Israel's terrorism against Gazan civilians and the illegal assassination of its key figures without trial. It's Palestinian children getting blown to bits. Last I read it was 4. They might not mean much to you (being brown and all) but I'm sure as hell they meant a lot to their families. There is no Israeli terrorism. There has been Israeli response to 100 indiscriminate rocket attacks of Israeli civilian areas. All sane leaders around the world support the right of a UN member state to defend its civilian population from terrorist attacks like these Hamas rocket attacks. As for 'without trial', Hamas and all the other islamists outfits organised the kidnapping and imprisonment of Gilad Shalit without trial. They carry out bombings of, always without trial. What is this mania of treating the terrorist organisations as if they were adolescent delinquents who only need a stern talking-to. As for the children - you know as well as anyone that the IDF does not target civilians. Islamists militants, like terrorists of every kind, dress like the population they hide behind. Here's what I want to know: why did Hamas and the other salafist monsters fire 100 rockets into Israel? Why now? WHat's the point?

Yes - that is right.  Israel carried out an act of terroism by firing a missile into Gaza to carry out a summary excecution without trial.

THe fact that Hamas may have also carried out terrorist acts does not allow Israel to carry out acts of terrorism as well.

If they want to stop terrorism - perhaps they could remove the illegal blockade on Gaza.
Being terrorists themselves will only make it worse.

Israel decided long ago that after the US elections they were going to start ww3 in the Middle East.
Its no wonder the Jews have been persecuted throughout the ages when we realise what a bunch of war mongering terrorists they have always been.
Lets just hope they get nuked off the face of the earth so we can finally rid ourselves of these cockroaches forever.
The world doesn't need the Jews to constantly destabilise every region they decide to settle in.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

again, its just inconsistent from the left. they support the right of the palestinians to throw every single weapon at their disposal at the jews but expect the jews to pull their punches. you just dont understand how a conflict works. could you imagine julius ceasar or geneghis khan or napoleon or more recently churchill or patton  holding back. holding back only prolongs the pain. like a brown snake in your back yard or a rabid dog attacking your kids. you move with overwhelming force and crush those who oppose you.its no good just stirring the snake up with a few rocks, kill the bugger and burn its corpse this is exactly what the palestinians would do if they had the airforce and the tanks and the jews had the small arms. when did wars become all touchy feely. why draw it out for generations and cause generational hate and pain. attack you enemy, overwhelm your enemy, defeat your enemy and then like the marshall plan in germany rebuild your enemy in your likeness. if the allies had pulled up on the borders of germany in 1945 we'd probably still be negotiating and putting up missile defence shields in london. the arabs attacked israel in 66, they lost. now take it like a man and move on. the jews problem and americas problem since 1945 is they pussyfoot around probing at the boil,  get a big knife out and cut it as deep and as quickly as you can.  better for all concerned.

Good example.

The only way a brown snake in your backyard will hurt you is if you torment it or try to catch it or kill it.

Leave it alone to go about its business and respect that it has as much right to be there as you do - and it will leave you alone.

If israel attacks or blockades the "brown snake" it will strike at them too.
Pretty obvious really. 
Terrorism from Israel will only make things worse.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:21am:

Israel decided long ago that after the US elections they were going to start ww3 in the Middle East. Its no wonder the Jews have been persecuted throughout the ages when we realise what a bunch of war mongering terrorists they have always been. Lets just hope they get nuked off the face of the earth so we can finally rid ourselves of these cockroaches forever. The world doesn't need the Jews to constantly destabilise every region they decide to settle in.

These Israelis are violent white men, immigrants from the USA & Russia not the pacifist ultra orthodox Jews who got persecuted in the holocaust you lying racist antisemite sh1t... 8-) 8-)

Dr No wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:09am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:06am: Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:01am: What a load of crap. Are ordinary citizens in australia expected to capture and kill nutjobs like ivan milat? SOB And you wonder why people laugh at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Awww no answer to that one then? SOB I hope you have donated your brain to science in your will. It will make for some interesting research.

Was i even talking to you there? No i wasnt.

If ordinary citizens are expected to stop "terrorists" in gaza then why arent ordinary citizens in australia expected to stop ppl like milat?

SOB

Nuke the middle east and be done with it .... there will never be a resolution to the conflict ....

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:21am:

Israel decided long ago that after the US elections they were going to start ww3 in the Middle East. Its no wonder the Jews have been persecuted throughout the ages when we realise what a bunch of war mongering terrorists they have always been. Lets just hope they get nuked off the face of the earth so we can finally rid ourselves of these cockroaches forever. The world doesn't need the Jews to constantly destabilise every region they decide to settle in.

Yeah the problem  with that is that the west bank would be radiated too. Better a "surgical strike" to take out " a couple of large apartment buildings".

SOB

The violence will continue while the terrorist state of Israel sits on stolen land and continues to repress and persecute the original inhabitants.
Israel uses murder and terrorism to spark unrest in the region knowing full well the consequences.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

aqua - how about stopping the blockade? That might work. The Jews need to find out why the Pallys are firing rockets at them.

Bobby the blockade is a restriction on dangerous materials entering through Israel.
We are not going to stop this.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:40am:

The violence will continue while the terrorist state of Israel sits on stolen land and continues to repress and persecute the original inhabitants. Israel uses murder and terrorism to spark unrest in the region knowing full well the consequences.

You are just extremist with this talk and when you call us a terrorist state it makes you look silly.
We are a nation state who have offered peace several times.
Think, why do we not clash with Fatah?
It because they try to work with us.

Hamas? Hizbollah? Islamic Jihad? No they just want war.
Well we can bring it to them if that's their choice.

We will never take backwards steps when our people are threatened.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:53am: aqua - how about stopping the blockade? That might work. The Jews need to find out why the Pallys are firing rockets at them. Bobby the blockade is a restriction on dangerous materials entering through Israel. We are not going to stop this.

Who are you to blockade another country?

SOB

Remove the violent Ferrel white apartheid occupation state of Israel set up illegally by the USA & Britain in 1948...Even the holocaust victim Jews don't want it...Stop Western aggression and expansionism into Asia & Africa... 8-) 8-)

The West has supported rebel groups to overthrow Governments in the ME they did not like.....Now we have what looks like an Islamic extremist uprising in the ME.....Israel is not getting any safer by destabilizing the region.....What is the UN doing supporting unknown rebels against Sovereign Governments anyway.....When is it Saudi Arabia's turn???

::) ::) ::)

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:21am:

Israel decided long ago that after the US elections they were going to start ww3 in the Middle East. Its no wonder the Jews have been persecuted throughout the ages when we realise what a bunch of war mongering terrorists they have always been. Lets just hope they get nuked off the face of the earth so we can finally rid ourselves of these cockroaches forever. The world doesn't need the Jews to constantly destabilise every region they decide to settle in.

And you say you have Jews as friends.
Do they know you call us cockroaches?

Quote:

Here's what I want to know: why did Hamas and the other salafist monsters fire 100 rockets into Israel? Why now? WHat's the point?

This is why. Ask yourself why this isn't reported in mainstream media.


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Furthermore, articles that do mention the Palestinian casualties in Gaza consistently report that Israeli operations are in response to rockets from Gaza and to the injuring of Israeli soldiers. However, the chronology of events of the recent flare-up began onNovember 5, when an innocent, apparently mentally unfit, 20-year old man, Ahmad al-Nabaheen, was shot when he wandered close to the border. Medics had to wait for six hours to be permitted to pick him up and they suspect that he may have died because of that delay. Then, on November 8, a 13-year old boy playing football in front of his house was killed by fire from the IOF that had moved into Gazan territory with tanks as well as helicopters. The wounding of four Israeli soldiers at the border on November 10 was therefore already part of a chain of events where Gazan civilians had been killed, and not the triggering event.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/maureen-clare-murphy/linguists-including-noam-chomsky-condemn-reprehensible-gaza-coverage

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:43am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:53am: aqua - how about stopping the blockade? That might work. The Jews need to find out why the Pallys are firing rockets at them. Bobby the blockade is a restriction on dangerous materials entering through Israel. We are not going to stop this. Who are you to blockade another country? SOB

We are a country ensuring material is not used for aggression.

We stop and check everything.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

Quote: Here's what I want to know: why did Hamas and the other salafist monsters fire 100 rockets into Israel? Why now? WHat's the point? This is why. Ask yourself why this isn't reported in mainstream media. [quote]Furthermore, articles that do mention the Palestinian casualties in Gaza consistently report that Israeli operations are in response to rockets from Gaza and to the injuring of Israeli soldiers. However, the chronology of events of the recent flare-up began onNovember 5, when an innocent, apparently mentally unfit, 20-year old man, Ahmad al-Nabaheen, was shot when he wandered close to the border. Medics had to wait for six hours to be permitted to pick him up and they suspect that he may have died because of that delay. Then, on November 8, a 13-year old boy playing football in front of his house was killed by fire from the IOF that had moved into Gazan territory with tanks as well as helicopters. The wounding of four Israeli soldiers at the border on November 10 was therefore already part of a chain of events where Gazan civilians had been killed, and not the triggering event.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/maureen-clare-murphy/linguists-including-noam-chomsky-condemn-reprehensible-gaza-coverage[/quote]

Electronic intifada??
;D

Annie you are married to a Lebanese?
That makes sense.

Gang of women who attack and then run.

Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:56am:

Annie you are married to a Lebanese? That makes sense.

Not anymore. And guess what? I still think you're despicable.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site.

Chomsky??

Ah yes he is very anti Israel and has made disgusting comments about Jews.
I am not surprised.

I ask though, why do the regular Aussies I have met here in my time been so in favor of my country?
So many Aussies said "Good on you guys wish we did the same"

Now we have support publicly from your Government too.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:57am: Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site. Chomsky?? Ah yes he is very anti Israel and has made disgusting comments about Jews. I am not surprised. I ask though, why do the regular Aussies I have met here in my time been so in favor of my country? So many Aussies said "Good on you guys wish we did the same" Now we have support publicly from your Government too.

While Israel continues to murder, torture, terrorise and steal they should expect anti Israeli sentiment from across the globe

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:57am: Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site. Chomsky?? Ah yes he is very anti Israel and has made disgusting comments about Jews. I am not surprised. I ask though, why do the regular Aussies I have met here in my time been so in favor of my country? So many Aussies said "Good on you guys wish we did the same" Now we have support publicly from your Government too.

What disgusting comments has Chomsky made about Jews?

And yes, I've seen the support for your government's actions but it doesn't really matter when it comes from the lunatic fringe I guess. Every country has freaks like that. Unfortunately, your country elected them to government - I can't see that happening here. Perhaps that's why you don't leave?

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people arent seriously comparing nazi concentration camps to palestinian camps are they. Wink Wink aushwitz....walking skeletons, fighting over a crust of bread. gaza....big fat arabs , watch the tv footage, they all seem fat to me,  half of em with mobile phones and video cameras, firing their stupid guns in the air (yes hitler left the jews have guns and rockets)

Exactly where can Palestinians grow fresh food or how can they import fresh healthy food when Israel stops their right to do so.
If you have to smuggle food in then you are going to need to smuggle unhealthy food full of sugar, sodium and preservatives so they do not go off. A consequence of this is obesity.

What exactly is your problem with that?

You are pathetic.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 6:32am: The people of Gaza are some of the most impoverished in the world purely because of Israels crimes against humanity and war crimes. It may be fairer to compare ongoing Jewish crimes with the Serbian atrocities against the Bosnians. i dispute that,  i would imagine they have far better access to nutrition, healthcare, education then many many people in third world countries.

You probably would imagine but that is about as far as it goes.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:53am: aqua - how about stopping the blockade? That might work. The Jews need to find out why the Pallys are firing rockets at them. Bobby the blockade is a restriction on dangerous materials entering through Israel. We are not going to stop this.

Yeah all those dangerous musical instruments and stuff like that.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:40am: The violence will continue while the terrorist state of Israel sits on stolen land and continues to repress and persecute the original inhabitants. Israel uses murder and terrorism to spark unrest in the region knowing full well the consequences. You are just extremist with this talk and when you call us a terrorist state it makes you look silly. We are a nation state who have offered peace several times. Think, why do we not clash with Fatah? It because they try to work with us. Hamas? Hizbollah? Islamic Jihad? No they just want war. Well we can bring it to them if that's their choice. We will never take backwards steps when our people are threatened.

If that is extremist then what does that make you?

Israel cannot offer peace when it is illegally and militarily occupying their land, please consult the definition of peace.

You forget that Hamas and similar groups already have war, you are occupying them and have been killing, torturing and destroying the lives of their innocent civilians indiscriminately for over half a century.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:43am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:53am: aqua - how about stopping the blockade? That might work. The Jews need to find out why the Pallys are firing rockets at them. Bobby the blockade is a restriction on dangerous materials entering through Israel. We are not going to stop this. Yeah all those dangerous musical instruments and stuff like that.

We should probably stop Israel from receiving "dangerous goods" if its an international crime to import such things.
Israel cant have it both ways

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:30am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:46am: adelcrow wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:40am: The violence will continue while the terrorist state of Israel sits on stolen land and continues to repress and persecute the original inhabitants. Israel uses murder and terrorism to spark unrest in the region knowing full well the consequences. You are just extremist with this talk and when you call us a terrorist state it makes you look silly. We are a nation state who have offered peace several times. Think, why do we not clash with Fatah? It because they try to work with us. Hamas? Hizbollah? Islamic Jihad? No they just want war. Well we can bring it to them if that's their choice. We will never take backwards steps when our people are threatened. If that is extremist then what does that make you? Israel cannot offer peace when it is illegally and militarily occupying their land, please consult the definition of peace. You forget that Hamas and similar groups already have war, you are occupying them and have been killing, torturing and destroying the lives of their innocent civilians indiscriminately for over half a century.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dbull shyte in your dreams  ;D ;D

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site.

I would never go to that link.
If Barak calls stage 2 reservist for ground assault then that is me.
These people support me to be shot at and killed.

Quote:

bull shyte in your dreams

You are welcome to prove me wrong.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:40am: The violence will continue while the terrorist state of Israel sits on stolen land and continues to repress and persecute the original inhabitants. Israel uses murder and terrorism to spark unrest in the region knowing full well the consequences. You are just extremist with this talk and when you call us a terrorist state it makes you look silly. We are a nation state who have offered peace several times. Think, why do we not clash with Fatah? It because they try to work with us. Hamas? Hizbollah? Islamic Jihad? No they just want war. Well we can bring it to them if that's their choice. We will never take backwards steps when our people are threatened.

Israel is a 'nation state' who assassinated its only true hope of peace.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:04am: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:57am: Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site. Chomsky?? Ah yes he is very anti Israel and has made disgusting comments about Jews. I am not surprised. I ask though, why do the regular Aussies I have met here in my time been so in favor of my country? So many Aussies said "Good on you guys wish we did the same" Now we have support publicly from your Government too. While Israel continues to murder, torture, terrorise and steal they should expect anti Israeli sentiment from across the globe

But it is the opposite. Lots of Aussies cheer Israel and your government supports us.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:33am:

Quote: bull shyte in your dreams You are welcome to prove me wrong.

Why bother,   ;)

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:07am: Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:04am: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:57am: Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site. Chomsky?? Ah yes he is very anti Israel and has made disgusting comments about Jews. I am not surprised. I ask though, why do the regular Aussies I have met here in my time been so in favor of my country? So many Aussies said "Good on you guys wish we did the same" Now we have support publicly from your Government too. While Israel continues to murder, torture, terrorise and steal they should expect anti Israeli sentiment from across the globe But it is the opposite. Lots of Aussies cheer Israel and your government supports us.

And yet people educated on the issue do not.  :-?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:04am: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 9:57am: Yes. If you weren't too lazy to read the link, you'd see it is a joint open letter from concerned academics like Chomsky and Bustros that has been published on the EI site. Chomsky?? Ah yes he is very anti Israel and has made disgusting comments about Jews. I am not surprised. I ask though, why do the regular Aussies I have met here in my time been so in favor of my country? So many Aussies said "Good on you guys wish we did the same" Now we have support publicly from your Government too. What disgusting comments has Chomsky made about Jews? And yes, I've seen the support for your government's actions but it doesn't really matter when it comes from the lunatic fringe I guess. Every country has freaks like that. Unfortunately, your country elected them to government - I can't see that happening here. Perhaps that's why you don't leave?

I do leave in Dec. My studies are finished. But my visa is valid to march 13.
But if Barak calls stage 2 reservists I am called up.

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:33am: Quote: bull shyte in your dreams You are welcome to prove me wrong. Why bother,   ;)

Well you would probably get a lot of money from rich jews if you could prove that Israel wasn't illegal and militarily occupying Palestine.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:36am: bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:33am: Quote: bull shyte in your dreams You are welcome to prove me wrong. Why bother,   ;) Well you would probably get a lot of money from rich jews if you could prove that Israel wasn't illegal and militarily occupying Palestine.

What THU   ;D ;D ;D

There was a UN recognition of Israel.
That is why we exist.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

There was a UN recognition of Israel. That is why we exist.

Recognition of what?

I condemn Israel, Great Britain and Israel for waging racist white male violence and aggression in Asia, Africa and the ME... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:42am:

I condemn Israel, Great Britain and Israel for waging racist white male violence and aggression in Asia, Africa and the ME... :) :)

FFS

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

All White Men share collective guilt for the atrocities of Israel and the occupation...
8-) 8-)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

All White Men share collective guilt for the atrocities of Israel and the occupation... 8-) 8-)

Dont you worry about it NUGGET  ;D ;D ;D ;D

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:42am: I condemn Israel, Great Britain and Israel for waging racist white male violence and aggression in Asia, Africa and the ME... :) :) FFS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Stellar contribution there. True to form. Well done.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:46am:

FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:44am: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 10:42am: I condemn Israel, Great Britain and Israel for waging racist white male violence and aggression in Asia, Africa and the ME... :) :) FFS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Stellar contribution there. True to form. Well done.

Well THANK YOU   ;) ;)

Yes I denounce White Males and all of their racist territorial, economic and military ambition in the ME, Asia and Africa, I denounce the Gillard Government for the utter contemptible stream of violence enabling verbal diarrhea they keep churning out - especially foreign Minister Carr...

Stop the race war,. stop White male violence and aggression...

White Male Violence is the only serious impediment to peace Bob Carr...White Males and their Armies must cease and desist from all violence beyond their borders...
8-) 8-)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Yes I denounce White Males and all of their racist territorial, economic and military ambition in the ME, Asia and Africa, I denounce the Gillard Government for the utter contemptible stream of violence enabling verbal diarrhea the keep churning out - especially foreign Minister Carr... Stop the race war,. stop White male violence and aggression... White Male Violence is the only serious impediment to peace Bob Carr...White Males and their Armies must cease and desist from all violence beyond their borders... 8-) 8-)

WOW You do have some problems,,dont you  ;D

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:14am:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:11am: Yes I denounce White Males and all of their racist territorial, economic and military ambition in the ME, Asia and Africa, I denounce the Gillard Government for the utter contemptible stream of violence enabling verbal diarrhea the keep churning out - especially foreign Minister Carr... Stop the race war,. stop White male violence and aggression... White Male Violence is the only serious impediment to peace Bob Carr...White Males and their Armies must cease and desist from all violence beyond their borders... 8-) 8-) WOW You do have some problems,,dont you  ;D

No, I believe in non violence and peace...you are the problem...I deplore your attitude... 8-) 8-)

I condemn White Male violence and aggression in all of its forms and the Western Governments supporting it...  :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:14am: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:11am: Yes I denounce White Males and all of their racist territorial, economic and military ambition in the ME, Asia and Africa, I denounce the Gillard Government for the utter contemptible stream of violence enabling verbal diarrhea the keep churning out - especially foreign Minister Carr... Stop the race war,. stop White male violence and aggression... White Male Violence is the only serious impediment to peace Bob Carr...White Males and their Armies must cease and desist from all violence beyond their borders... 8-) 8-) WOW You do have some problems,,dont you  ;D No, I believe in non violence and peace...you are the problem...I deplore your attitude... 8-) 8-)

;D STIFF    ;D

White men and their families all interbreed amongst themselves and wage social, economic & Military war all over the world including here in Australia... 8-) 8-)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

White men and their families all interbreed amongst themselves and wage social, economic & Military war all over the world including here in Australia... 8-) 8-)

;D ;D What WAR in  Australia ?   ;D ;D

The world should join me in denouncing white male violence and calling for their immediate cessation of all aggression and violence and unconditional surrender to world peace and harmony...
:) :)

As I have previously said, it seems that there are a couple of likely outcomes.

1) Both sides and their supporters, accept that the past can not be changed, but with good will & an acceptance of change on the part of both sides, a reasonable future is still negotiable.

2) Both sides and their supporters, continue their current approach to each other.

In respect of approach one, an outcome is possible where the past remains but all sides concentrate on a decent future for each other and eventually learn to live together, without tearing at the very fabric of their lives!

In respect of approach two, eventually the very fabric of their lives of both sides is completely torn asunder, no one wins & everyone loses!

The choices may & may not, be quite that stark, but they are the two essential choices!

To all involved, I suggest a step back & a deep breath, may actually be the first step forward, on a new path.

This path needs to be walked together, by both sides into possibly a more hopeful & brighter future.

The specifics of any lasting arrangements in the region must come from the active participants, but those arrangements will also necessarily involve proposals, which at first sight may seem to go too far, by both sides!

This dilemma, will no doubt, require the clearing of stumbling blocks along the way, some of which have been created by the respective antagonists, whilst some of those stumbling blocks were created by others in the international community.

Should both sides Fail to walk this path together, they may well condemn future generations, both directly and indirectly involved, to become permanently lost, in a dark wilderness of distress, distrust & outright destruction.

Finally, the choices are for those directly & indirectly affected. I hope that the right choices are made, primarily by both sides of this dilemma and that a way past this Gordian Knot can be found!

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:21am:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: White men and their families all interbreed amongst themselves and wage social, economic & Military war all over the world including here in Australia... 8-) 8-) ;D ;D What WAR in  Australia ?   ;D ;D

Piss off idiot, White men have been waging war in this country against peace for over two hundred years of the occupation... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:21am: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: White men and their families all interbreed amongst themselves and wage social, economic & Military war all over the world including here in Australia... 8-) 8-) ;D ;D What WAR in  Australia ?   ;D ;D Piss off idiot, White men have been waging war in this country against peace for over two hundred years of the occupation... :) :)

;D ;D ;D  You poor SOUL  Please DONT BREED   ;) ;)

White Men around the world including here in Australia must cease and desist all racist violence and aggression...that is the impediment to world peace... :) :)

FRED. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:23am: FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:21am: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: White men and their families all interbreed amongst themselves and wage social, economic & Military war all over the world including here in Australia... 8-) 8-) ;D ;D What WAR in  Australia ?   ;D ;D Piss off idiot, White men have been waging war in this country against peace for over two hundred years of the occupation... :) :) ;D ;D ;D  You poor SOUL  Please DONT BREED   ;) ;)

You are forgiven for your ignorance and you are free to ignore me as I will you from this moment on...you are a troll... :) :)

White Male aggression and Western Governments around the worlds are the greatest threat to world peace... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:25am: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:23am: FRED. wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:21am: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: White men and their families all interbreed amongst themselves and wage social, economic & Military war all over the world including here in Australia... 8-) 8-) ;D ;D What WAR in  Australia ?   ;D ;D Piss off idiot, White men have been waging war in this country against peace for over two hundred years of the occupation... :) :) ;D ;D ;D  You poor SOUL  Please DONT BREED   ;) ;) You are forgiven for your ignorance and you are free to ignore me as I will you from this moment on...you are a troll... :) :)

;D ;D ;D ;D And you thin k your not a TROLL  FFS

White Males violence and military expansionism must cease in the ME and around the world..the global community must insist on this... :) :)

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:28am:

White Male aggression and Western Governments around the worlds are the greatest threat to world peace... :) :)

I never understand anything this man says

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 11:28am: White Male aggression and Western Governments around the worlds are the greatest threat to world peace... :) :) I never understand anything this man says

;D ;D ;D   "MAN"  FFS 

I will be in the next draft of letters if they action the increase from the current 16,000.
I have finished my studies now and I am under 30.




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Cabinet OKs 75,000 reservists for possible Gaza operation

By JPOST.COM STAFF, YAAKOV LAPPIN

LAST UPDATED: 11/16/2012 23:41

Government increases cap of reservists for possible ground operation in Gaza from 30,000 to 75,000; FM Liberman says the government is not considering toppling Hamas.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak approved the IDF's request on Friday evening to increase the maximum number of reservists it could enlist, seeking cabinet approval to mobilize up to 75,000 troops ahead of a possible Gaza ground operation.

The Inner Cabinet, a group of nine senior ministers, met for over three hours to discuss the possibility of a ground operation into the Hamas-controlled enclave, but released no statements or indications as to what transpired during the meeting.

Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, however, told Channel 10 that toppling Hamas is not on the agenda as a goal for Operation Pillar of Defense.

"We are definitely considering a ground operation, but toppling Hamas, I think that's something that the next government will have to decide," he said.

Liberman also told Channel 2 that the IDF will only stop its attacks against Hamas and other terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip once Israel accomplishes its goals of stopping rocket fire and increasing deterrence.

"Each time that Hamas fires [into Israel], there will be a harsher and harsher response," he added.

Debate over invading Gaza comes after three days of constant rocket-fire from the Strip, which has reached as far as Tel Aviv and Jerusalem for the first time, and targeted Israeli strikes against terrorist leaders and weapons depots in Gaza.

On Friday morning, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz issued draft orders to 16,000 out the 30,000 reservists the cabinet approved Thursday. Most of the reservists called up thus far serve in the IDF's Engineering Corps.

The engineering corps would play a vital part in any ground operation into the Gaza Strip, enabling armored vehicles to move across the border into Gaza. The IDF operation to root out terror in the coastal territory has consisted of air raids on terror targets thus far.


The IDF assassinated two Hamas members in Gaza on Friday evening.

The first, Muhammad Abu Jalal, was a Hamas company commander in central Gaza's El Muazi area, and the second, Khaled Shaeer, operated anti-tank missiles.

Earlier, the IDF sent text messages to 12,000 Gazan civilians, warning them to stay away from Hamas members.

The IDF warned that its activities would continue into the night on Friday, warning Hamas to take cover.

"Terrorists in Gaza should hide. Tonight won't be calm in Gaza," IDF spokesman Yoav Mordechai said. "We're hitting hundreds of rocket launchers in waves of air strikes, including right now."

The IDF also revealed on Friday that it had taken out Hamas's nascent drone program.

The military recently focused its intelligence efforts on a group of Hamas terrorists who were developing and producing drones designed to strike fortified targets in Israel.

The terrorists were under the instruction of Iranian technical instructors, and the 'production team' carried test flights in Gaza of the drones.

The IAF struck the test flight sites in recent attacks

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=292195

So the "operation" is to finally wipe them all out?

SOB

My understandings is that the operation is to secure the safety of the citizens of Israel from attack.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

My understandings is that the operation is to secure the safety of the citizens of Israel from attack.

If this was the operation then why not just stop occupying other peoples land illegally?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

My understandings is that the operation is to secure the safety of the citizens of Israel from attack.

Then why blow up their govt depts where birth certs are registered? Apparently the archives are ruined. Now theres a whole bunch more refugees with no ID.

SOB

Hamas bumper stickers:

If you can read this you are within the blast radius

My Other Car Is a Crater

Honk if your horn is not currently connected to a detonator

Baby with a bomb in his diaper on board

If this van’s tick-tockin’, don’t come a knockin’

THE BEST WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAM EVER

My child was briefly an honor student at Kill Yourself Elementary

Incoming Objects Are Closer Than They Appear

     Why did the Auschwitz shower heads have 12 holes? Because Jews have 10 fingers!!





    Hitler: Tuday, Hitlerr is feeling generrouz. Tuday, Hitlerr is sending half of you home! Jews of the concentration camp: Heeee!!!!!!! (joy and happiness). Hitler: Hans, brring ze chainsaw!





    What's the difference between a ton of coal and a thousand Jews? Jews burn longer.





    Have you heard about the new German microwave? It's got ten seats inside.





    Hitler and Goering were arguing about the Jews, Goering stating that they were quite clever people and Hitler vehemently denying they were any such thing.

    Finally Goering told Hitler that they should go out in the city and Goering would show Hitler it was true. Hitler agreed, so they disguised themselves and went out on the street.

    Goering took Hitler into a shop, went up to the counter, and asked the clerk: "Do you have any left-handed teacups?" The clerk stared at Goering for a moment and then said no, mein herr, I do not.

    The two left with Hitler complaining that he did not understand what the point of this was and Goering telling him to be patient. They went to another shop and Goering gave the same act: "Do you have any left-handed teacups?" The clerk stared and shrugged his shoulders.

    They left with Hitler becoming incensed over this nonsense and Goering begging for patience. Finally they went into a Jewish shop; Goering again asked the clerk: "Do you have any left-handed teacups?"

    The clerk smiled graciously, went into the back room and made a show of rummaging around, brought out a saucer and teacup, set down the saucer, and carefully placed the cup with the handle pointed so Goering could pick it with his left hand. "There you are, mein herr!" the clerk said.

    Goering bought the teacup, thanked the clerk, and the two men left. Goering turned to Hitler and said: "See, I told you the Jews were very clever people."

    "I don't see what was so clever about that," Hitler snapped. "He just happened to have one in stock!"





    Question: Why don't Jewish cannibals like eating Germans? Answer: They give them gas.





    What's the difference between a Jew and a Pizza?

        The pizza doesn't scream when you put it in the oven.
        About $5.65
        You take out the pizza. In one piece.





    Regarding the question of how many Jews can be got into a Volkswagen Beetle, the idea was to provoke a rigorous, Revisionist analysis, devoid of emotional appeals and implausible "eye-witness" accounts, of the facts of the matter. For example, what is the internal volume of a Volkswagen Beetle? What is the cubic capacity of the ashes remaining after cremation of a human being, on average? Time for the Revisionist pocket calculator! And what of reports from some quarters that Volkswagen Beetles of certain vintages had no ashtray? Can our thesis survive this fundamental challenge? Time will tell.





    Two Jewish children are sitting on top of a roof near a chimney. A passer-by asks, 'What are you doing there?' 'We are waiting for our parents.'





    What were Jews used for in connection with the 1936 Olympics? For the cindertrack and the Olympic flame.

You should be banned for this anti semitism

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

You should be banned for this anti semitism

So posting jokes is anti semetic but committing terrorist acts against semites in Palestine is acceptable? Not sure how that makes any sense.
You have just said you are probably going to go fight in a terrorist army, illegally invade a country and partake or aid in the killing of innocent semites.. And you complain about jokes?
:-?

I said if they call reservists after this 16,000 then I will be next.
To fight for a army of a UN nation state.

Your jokes about holocaust are despicable.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 3:38pm:

I said if they call reservists after this 16,000 then I will be next. To fight for a army of a UN nation state. Your jokes about holocaust are despicable.

What relevance does being a 'UN nation state' have with an illegal occupation?
If my jokes are despicable then your involvement in terrorism against semites is
despicable x10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.

There is no justification for this white male violence White Male violence and aggression = Nazism... The world must be clear and unequivocal in its condemnation of White Male aggression and warmongering around the world...Speak up against unprovoked attacks against the peace loving Palestinians!
:) :)

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 3:30pm: You should be banned for this anti semitism So posting jokes is anti semetic but committing terrorist acts against semites in Palestine is acceptable? Not sure how that makes any sense. You have just said you are probably going to go fight in a terrorist army, illegally invade a country and partake or aid in the killing of innocent semites.. And you complain about jokes? :-?

Also i didnt see him complaining about the other jokes in the post before.

You missed the one about the gas bill . . . .cant remember it

SOB

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

There is no justification for this white male violence White Male violence and aggression = Nazism... The world must be clear and unequivocal in its condemnation of White Male aggression and warmongering around the world...Speak up against unprovoked attacks against the peace loving Palestinians! :) :)

Prev,
You are throwing a lot of mud, some of it may stick & some deservedly stick.

But, I assure you, ALL WHITE MALES ARE NOT NAZI & that includes me !!!

Btw, do you realise that some non white males & females of all colours, MAY also exhibit aggression, from time to tome?

The Holocaust Victim Jewish Pacifists speak out against White Israeli Male Zionism and Jewish children Protest and denounce the Military draft...


Quote:

Jerusalem Children Demonstrate Against Zionist Draft Thousands of Orthodox Jewish boys gathered in Sabbath Square in Jerusalem this Monday afternoon, July 16, to protest proposals to draft members of their community into the Israeli army. The demonstration was organized by the Eidah Chareidis, the independent anti-Zionist rabbinate of Jerusalem. :-? The boys arrived from directly from school at 5:30 PM. Participating schools included Toldos Aharon, Toldos Avraham Yitzchok, Satmar and Dushinsky. The children wore signs attached to their clothing or hats reading, “”Daddy! Mommy! Save me from falling into the claws of army, civilian or national service!” Other signs read “Our children will not fall victim to the government's Cantonist decree” – referring to the 19th century czarist Russian practice of drafting young children into the army for life, forcing them to abandon Judaism. :( Other signs read, “We have never taken any funding from you and therefore we are not at your mercy. We want neither your honey nor your stinger.” And: “If you will not permit us to live as Jews, we will die as Jews.” >:( >:( And: “When I grow up I will be a soldier in the Torah of G-d.” And: “State of Israel! You will never succeed in uprooting from us 'Hear O Israel!'" Some of the children were handcuffed to each other with toy handcuffs, to symbolize their willingness to go to jail rather than serve the Zionist state. Rabbi Yitzchok Shlomo Blau, a representative of the Eidah, opened the gathering by leading the children in reciting Psalms and the “Avinu Malkeinu” prayer. Then Rabbi Chaim Uri Freund led the recital of the Shma. Rabbi S. Blau, principal of the Satmar school, delivered a speech. The climax of the gathering was a speech by one of the boys, who said, “Even if they throw our fathers into jail or beat them to force them to join the army, we will stand up to the test. We will continue to stand by our religious principles, and we will be observant Jews.” The children then marched up Strauss Street, turned on Neviim Street and came back down Yishayahu Street. The demonstration was well-covered in the secular Israeli and world media. However, some media writers misunderstood the demonstration's message. The Associated Press wrote, "The ultra-Orthodox fear assimilation in the secular military and claim they are serving the state by serving G-d in prayer and study." Actually, the ultra-Orthodox do not believe in the state or its army, and do not wish to serve it in any way. Their objection is not to the secularism that currently characterizes the army, but to the concept of an army itself. The Eidah Chareidis represents the Old Yishuv, the community of Jews who lived in Jerusalem long before there was a Zionist movement. They know better than anyone that Jews enjoyed good relations with Arabs before Zionism, and that the Israeli state and army has only made life more dangerous for everyone. 8-)Furthermore, they believe that Jews must live humbly under non-Jewish governments until the coming of the messiah; a Jewish government such as the State of Israel is forbidden. Their only wish is to continue living their lives peacefully, without any interaction with the state. http://www.truetorahjews.org/issues/childrenagainstarmy

Stand firm Jewish Pacifists..we stand with you against White Male Aggression, Nazism and with you in the struggle for world peace and harmony...
Spin this away Adolf...I know you will try you G_d forsaken Nazi warmonger...
:) :)

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 3:58pm:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 3:41pm: There is no justification for this white male violence White Male violence and aggression = Nazism... The world must be clear and unequivocal in its condemnation of White Male aggression and warmongering around the world...Speak up against unprovoked attacks against the peace loving Palestinians! :) :) Prev, You are throwing a lot of mud, some of it may stick & some deservedly stick. But, I assure you, ALL WHITE MALES ARE NOT NAZI & that includes me !!! Btw, do you realise that some non white males & females of all colours, MAY also exhibit aggression, from time to tome?

All White Males who are aggressive and violent are Nazis...especially those who try to justify and cloak their violence with platitudes of self defense and provocation... 8-) 8-)

http://www.truetorahjews.org/sites/default/files/children2.jpg

Thousands of Jewish Kids Protest the draft...
:) :)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:35am:

Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:09am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:06am: Dr No wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 8:01am: What a load of crap. Are ordinary citizens in australia expected to capture and kill nutjobs like ivan milat? SOB And you wonder why people laugh at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Awww no answer to that one then? SOB I hope you have donated your brain to science in your will. It will make for some interesting research. Was i even talking to you there? No i wasnt. If ordinary citizens are expected to stop "terrorists" in gaza then why arent ordinary citizens in australia expected to stop ppl like milat? SOB

Hamas is in charge in Gaza, and they fire the rockets. The Milats are not in charge in Australia.

Gawd, you are a painful idiot.

The White mans Greed, economic aggression and violence is the root of all evil...the global community must prevail on Western Nations to disarm and renounce all territorial, economic and Military aspirations against others...The West must surrender unconditionally and lay down their arms...
:) :)

Quote:

Hamas is in charge in Gaza, and they fire the rockets.

And why don't they have the right to defend themselves?

On behalf of the Global community I demand the unconditional surrender and cessation of all hostilities of the Israeli state...
8-) 8-)

I condemn the racist Gillard Government and the faceless White Men for inciting Israeli aggression and violence against the peace loving Palestinian people...
:P :P

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 3:58pm: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 3:41pm: There is no justification for this white male violence White Male violence and aggression = Nazism... The world must be clear and unequivocal in its condemnation of White Male aggression and warmongering around the world...Speak up against unprovoked attacks against the peace loving Palestinians! :) :) Prev, You are throwing a lot of mud, some of it may stick & some deservedly stick. But, I assure you, ALL WHITE MALES ARE NOT NAZI & that includes me !!! Btw, do you realise that some non white males & females of all colours, MAY also exhibit aggression, from time to tome? All White Males who are aggressive and violent are Nazis...especially those who try to justify and cloak their violence with platitudes of self defense and provocation... 8-) 8-)

And those non white males & females of all colours, who MAY also exhibit aggression, from time to time, are they also Nazi's?

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 4:04pm: perceptions_now wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 3:58pm: Prevailing wrote on Nov 17th, 2012 at 3:41pm: There is no justification for this white male violence White Male violence and aggression = Nazism... The world must be clear and unequivocal in its condemnation of White Male aggression and warmongering around the world...Speak up against unprovoked attacks against the peace loving Palestinians! :) :) Prev, You are throwing a lot of mud, some of it may stick & some deservedly stick. But, I assure you, ALL WHITE MALES ARE NOT NAZI & that includes me !!! Btw, do you realise that some non white males & females of all colours, MAY also exhibit aggression, from time to tome? All White Males who are aggressive and violent are Nazis...especially those who try to justify and cloak their violence with platitudes of self defense and provocation... 8-) 8-) And those non white males & females of all colours, who MAY also exhibit aggression, from time to time, are they also Nazi's?

Depends if they are defending themselves or not

The Gillard Government must withdraw its Armies from all racist engagements around the world, I condemn the Gillard Government and I condemn the Victoria Cross and the Iron Cross and everything those abominable racist Nazi symbols represent... 8-) 8-)