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Message started by MOTR on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 3:30am

Title: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by MOTR on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 3:30am

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In mid November support for the ALP is 50.5% (up 4%) cf. L-NP 49.5% (down 4%) on a two-party preferred basis according to the latest face-to-face Morgan Poll conducted over the last two weekends, November 10/11 & 17/18, 2012.

Today’s face-to-face Morgan Poll shows the ALP primary vote is 36.5% (up 1% in 2 weeks) and the L-NP 38.5% (down 4.5%). Among the minor parties Greens support is up by 1.5% to 11.5% and Independents/ Others is up 2% to 13.5%.

If a Federal election were held today the result would be too close to call and would depend on minor party preferences according to this face-to-face Morgan Poll.

The Roy Morgan Government Confidence Rating has risen to 107.5pts (up 2.5pts over the last two weeks) with 45.5% (up 1.5%) saying Australia is ‘heading in the right direction,’ compared to 38% (down 1%) saying Australia is ‘heading in the wrong direction’.


http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4840/


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This face-to-face Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention was conducted over the last two weekends, November 10/11 & 17/18, 2012 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 1,573 Australian electors aged 18+, of all electors surveyed a low 2% (unchanged) did not name a party. Face-to-face polling is more accurate than telephone polling due to the higher response rate achieved compared to other forms of polling including telephone polling and Internet polling.



Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by Spot of Borg on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 3:49am
Oh great more polls - it goes whichever way the media goes anyway.

SOB

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by MOTR on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:15am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 3:49am:
Oh great more polls - it goes whichever way the media goes anyway.

SOB


Jumping all over one poll is stupid. A series of polls start to tell a story.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by cods on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 9:16am
that is sooooooooooo booody interesting...

looks something like my 3 yr old grandson would draw..then again... his would be much more exciting..sorry MOTR I know this gives you such a buzz.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by warrigal on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 9:23am
50.5% support for labor, well all that means is their is that amount of people that are quite happy with the carbon tax and government spending. And they all must be liveing comfortably then.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 12:08pm

warrigal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 9:23am:
50.5% support for labor, well all that means is their is that amount of people that are quite happy with the carbon tax and government spending. And they all must be liveing comfortably then.


Yes, you are probably right.

I support the carbon price,  more than happy with most government spending, especially in education, and are living quite comfortably.

All those things would be in jepody under Abbott.
I vote  "no change".


Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gandalf on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:17pm
whats interesting is that the last 5 or so polls show a trend - which is that both sides are neck and neck.

For an opposition to lose so much ground so far out from an election is quite incredible. And I'm not entirely sure what has happened to cause this. Sure Tony's a douche - but why are people only realising this now?

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:17pm:
whats interesting is that the last 5 or so polls show a trend - which is that both sides are neck and neck.

For an opposition to lose so much ground so far out from an election is quite incredible. And I'm not entirely sure what has happened to cause this. Sure Tony's a douche - but why are people only realising this now?

As with the AWU story and the sacking of journo's, Gillard got sick of the polls story and has put the heat on to make the story more balanced.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:25pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:17pm:
whats interesting is that the last 5 or so polls show a trend - which is that both sides are neck and neck.

For an opposition to lose so much ground so far out from an election is quite incredible. And I'm not entirely sure what has happened to cause this. Sure Tony's a douche - but why are people only realising this now?


Tony's bullsh!t has been exposed & as he reminded us daily, the electorate doesn't like being mislead.

That and the fact as displayed over the last few weeks, That he can dish it out but can't take it, top that off by always hiding behind women's skirts be that Bishop x2 or his missus & kids.
Never a good look ;)





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Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by sexy_beast on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:30pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:25pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:17pm:
whats interesting is that the last 5 or so polls show a trend - which is that both sides are neck and neck.

For an opposition to lose so much ground so far out from an election is quite incredible. And I'm not entirely sure what has happened to cause this. Sure Tony's a douche - but why are people only realising this now?


Tony's bullsh!t has been exposed & as he reminded us daily, the electorate doesn't like being mislead.

That and the fact as displayed over the last few weeks, That he can dish it out but can't take it, top that off by always hiding behind women's skirts be that Bishop x2 or his missus & kids.
Never a good look ;)


Like the carbon tax?

Not concerned by this poll. Morgan and Reachtel are shockingly inaccurate. I don't pay much attention to polls anyway but I know that newspoll and nielsen are the two to watch.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by Dr No on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:33pm
Finally  a true word from Julia.
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Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by Maqqa on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 2:00pm
whatever the numbers are - Gillard is not confident enough in them to call an election

if she's not confident in them - why are lefties so confident in them other than false bravado??!!

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 2:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 2:00pm:
whatever the numbers are - Gillard is not confident enough in them to call an election

if she's not confident in them - why are lefties so confident in them other than false bravado??!!


Why would she???

Shes got until October next year, plenty of time to watch the bully self implode from his own incompetence.

Frankly I'd vote against her for depriving ME of that spectacle but I'm pretty sure she'll enjoy the show even more than the rest of us. ;)

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by skippy. on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 3:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 1:17pm:
For an opposition to lose so much ground so far out from an election is quite incredible.

Yep, that's the money quote of the month, and the conga line off phony tony suckholes as too dumb to realise or to smart to acknowledge it.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by adelcrow on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 3:35pm
Goodbye Phony Tony..it looks like no one cares if Gillard was ripped off and conned by an old boyfriend as much as they care about phony tony beating up on women.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:02pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 2:00pm:
whatever the numbers are - Gillard is not confident enough in them to call an election

if she's not confident in them - why are lefties so confident in them other than false bravado??!!



Why would she call an election when she's got nearly a year to run...


I dont get this idea of running to the polls all the time.  We have democracy which says we have elections every few years, not every few months.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gandalf on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 2:00pm:
if she's not confident in them - why are lefties so confident in them other than false bravado??!!


Well this lefty certainly isn't confident or expressing any false bravado. Yet 6 months ago she was a dead duck - everyone agreed on that. Now she's in with a chance - and that is trully a remarkable thing. Seriously if Tony loses this election - which must class as the most unlosable election in the history of mankind-  then that will trully be one for the history books.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by skippy. on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 2:00pm:
if she's not confident in them - why are lefties so confident in them other than false bravado??!!


. Seriously if Tony loses this election - which must class as the most unlosable election in the history of mankind-  then that will trully be one for the history books.

He won't lose it, he won't be there, any leader that can lose such a massive lead this far out from an election is dog meat.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by John Smith on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
Yet 6 months ago she was a dead duck - everyone agreed on that


wrong ... not everyone agreed ... you just weren't listening .

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by John Smith on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:18pm
Everyone notice how Abbotts been a man of few words lately? Hiding behind Juile Bishop all the time ..... whats with that? He doesn't know how to respond when he's not allowed to throw punches?

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gold_medal on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by adelcrow on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:23pm

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


;D ;D ;D ;D now thats funny  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gold_medal on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:32pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:23pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


;D ;D ;D ;D now thats funny  ;D ;D ;D ;D


actually 'funny' is reading your posts where you routinely say

1) Gillard has 2 years until the next election
2) Libs get no seats in QLD
3) the nats get more seats than the Greens and it is 'unfair'
4) ALP is leading in the polls.

For someone who is apparently smart, you are one of the stupider posters. Skippy and SOB have excuses as they are dumber than farm animals. but you are not.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by adelcrow on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:36pm

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:32pm:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:23pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


;D ;D ;D ;D now thats funny  ;D ;D ;D ;D


actually 'funny' is reading your posts where you routinely say

1) Gillard has 2 years until the next election
2) Libs get no seats in QLD
3) the nats get more seats than the Greens and it is 'unfair'
4) ALP is leading in the polls.

For someone who is apparently smart, you are one of the stupider posters. Skippy and SOB have excuses as they are dumber than farm animals. but you are not.


I can feel your anger ..deep breaths and centre your chi  :D

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by John Smith on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by adelcrow on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 5:09pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .


Longy didnt fixed his anger issues during his break  :D

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by skippy. on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 5:45pm
Longwhinysook is not bright enough to understand, funny thing is , the cretin will screech he knew it was going to happen when Abbott is punted.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gold_medal on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:08pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .


i said CREDIBLE polls like newspoll and galaxy were the ones to watch. the ones with a 1.1% MOE and funnily enough the ones predicting a comfortable coaltion victory.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:12pm

So if we gather all the polls together and assess the trends, everything is going down exactly as I predicted; The doomsday prophecies from Abbott about the Carbon Tax were proven to be bullsh!t and as a result we're going into 2013 with the parties once again at virtual parity.

If we go into the 2013 election and get another hung parliament, I will laugh my arse off.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by skippy. on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:19pm

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .


i said CREDIBLE polls like newspoll and galaxy were the ones to watch. the ones with a 1.1% MOE and funnily enough the ones predicting a comfortable coaltion victory.

Is that the same news poll that has had Labor  neck  and neck or within a couple of points in every poll over the past six weeks now, longwhinynuffy? Yet it's not a trend ,it's just an outlier, lol, I thought matty was naive.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gold_medal on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:21pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:19pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:20pm:
anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .


i said CREDIBLE polls like newspoll and galaxy were the ones to watch. the ones with a 1.1% MOE and funnily enough the ones predicting a comfortable coaltion victory.

Is that the same news poll that has had Labor  neck  and neck or within a couple of points in every poll over the past six weeks now, longwhinynuffy? Yet it's not a trend ,it's just an outlier, lol, I thought matty was naive.


52/48 Coalitions way. thats not close. and even Newspoll said that their 50/50 was an outlier as it was not  supported by Glaxy or any others.

and I know not one thing of that last sentence made sense to you.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by skippy. on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:27pm

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:21pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:19pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm:
[quote author=5C54575F64565E5F5A573B0 link=1353519014/20#20 date=1353565223]anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .


i said CREDIBLE polls like newspoll and galaxy were the ones to watch. the ones with a 1.1% MOE and funnily enough the ones predicting a comfortable coaltion victory.

.[/Newspoll said that their 50/50 was an outlier as it was not  supported by Glaxy or any others.

Link or its just another one of your lies longwhinyliar.

Title: Re: Labor 50.5 Coalition 49.5
Post by gold_medal on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:32pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:27pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:21pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:19pm:

gold_medal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2012 at 4:38pm:
[quote author=5C54575F64565E5F5A573B0 link=1353519014/20#20 date=1353565223]anyone who takes the Morgan poll as gospel is going to be disappointed. they are routinely 3-4% off from the other polls which prove to be pretty accurate.

I wouldnt start planning for labor to be re-elected anytime soon. most other polls have Abbott comfortably in front.


I seem to remember many months ago you were telling me that polls were never wrong .... wait, that wasn't you ... it was longlooser .


i said CREDIBLE polls like newspoll and galaxy were the ones to watch. the ones with a 1.1% MOE and funnily enough the ones predicting a comfortable coaltion victory.

.[/Newspoll said that their 50/50 was an outlier as it was not  supported by Glaxy or any others.

Link or its just another one of your lies longwhinyliar.


what would be the point? you'd still only deny it. thats all you do - have your own opinion and no fact ever passes thru your skull.

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