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Message started by Yadda on Nov 29th, 2012 at 3:27pm

Title: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 29th, 2012 at 3:27pm

The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted by moslems.

....gandalf.




polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 2:13pm:


Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
So, in ISLAM it is lawful to abduct women [and later have sex with them] ???


To point out the obvious (or so it would seem obvious to everyone except Yadda), we are talking about women whose menfolk were killed during their war with the muslims.

These women were enslaved by the muslims - because

unlike most christian and virtually every other contemporary army - the muslims didn't actually put every man, woman and child to death after conquering them. Perhaps in Yadda world they should have left these widows and orphans to fend for themselves - and watch them as they starved to death.

The reality was, enslavement meant protection,

and probable freedom later on.

I don't find it the least bit surprising that many of these slaves would fall in love with their masters and agree to consensual sex.



Unbelievable!

gandalf, you are sick in your mind, you are mentally polluted.

gandalf, see my 'OFFER' to you at the bottom of this post.






Murder of menfolk, and the SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted by moslems.

THE ENSLAVEMENT OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted by moslems,
....coz moslems will take care of their dependent, captive, women slaves.


According to gandalf.
/sarc off





gandalf.....

Quote:

"To point out the obvious (or so it would seem obvious to everyone except Yadda), we are talking about women whose menfolk were killed during their war with the muslims."




gandalf,

And if you read again, the account [an excerpt] of the deeds of  Mohammed and 'his companions', from the Hadith;

Mohammed and his companions went on a raiding party.
'and took captive some excellent Arab women', 'and we desired them',
'for we were suffering from the absence of our wives',
'So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them'  [i.e. have non-consensual sex with their captive 'excellent Arab women']
'(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them.' [i.e. Mohammed's companions intended to sell/ransom their captive 'excellent Arab women' back to their menfolk]



.....the Hadith asserts that those men expected to be able to return these 'used' women [who had been ABDUCTED and ABUSED as sex slaves] to their own men/families, FOR MONEY.


What was the offer ???

"I been smacking her 3 times a day, for the last 60 days, but you can have your wife/sister/daughter back if you want.
And i want 1,000 dinar for her.
She was very nice, and she enjoyed every moment, so i did not have to force her."





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MY OFFER TO YOU, gandalf,

If this type of conduct is OK, by you, then is it OK for me to use your mother, your sisters, and YOURSELF, in such a way ?

Would that be OK ?

And if not, why not ?



Can i 'use' YOU too, in such a way.

You would really enjoy it.

I promise.

So i wouldn't have to rape you.

And, you may even fall in love with me, too.




And i promise that i would look after you, afterwards.

Honest.



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gandalf,

People like yourself, is the example, of why Australia is no place for a moslem, or a moslem community.



Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by gandalf on Nov 29th, 2012 at 6:52pm
Sorry I can't give you a lengthy response yadda - see being Thursday night (the night before the muslim holy day), its good to do something islamic. So me and my muslim buddies are just going off to enslave some hot chicks - and I could be a little late because we're planning on going to the local synagogue afterwards and behead a few hundred jews - to the tune of that catchy "killing jews is worship" song you posted in the other thread (thanks for that). No doubt all this work for Allah will give us quite an appetite, so I hope to find a few non-muslim babies we can fire up on the barbie.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Amadd on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:09pm
Strangely, women seem to support Islam.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Calanen on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:44pm
They don't have a choice. You either support it, or you die. Or get acid thrown in your face. Or raped. Or beaten.

It's a bit like Stockholm syndrome in part but fear on the other.

The Western world suffers from the same thing - fear of confronting Islam makes people fail to speak what everyone knows - the Multicultural Diversity Emperor really wears no clothes at all.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Western Apologist on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:46pm
Sounds like the whole 'locking people up in Nazi ghettos, killing innocent people and ruining the lives of millions is fine if your a zionist'.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Calanen on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:53pm
Having actually spent time with people and spoken to them about what it is like to live in a REAL nazi ghetto, I don't think that Gaza qualifies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keux_UuGU9A

40% of people in Gaza are obese.

That certainly didn't happen in Warsaw.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Western Apologist on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:55pm

Calanen wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:53pm:
Having actually spent time with people and spoken to them about what it is like to live in a REAL nazi ghetto, I don't think that Gaza qualifies.
40% of people in Gaza are obese.

That certainly didn't happen in Warsaw.

The reality is that if the Jews were in Palestine's position it would be the worst disaster of all time for people like you.

I have debunked the obesity thing many times, if you don't want to get served please retract it.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Calanen on Nov 29th, 2012 at 9:02pm
I'll retract nothing, I don't work for you, and you couldn't afford to hire me. Watch any Pallywood news, you see the allah akbar jihad brigade running around waving their hands in the air with their big guts wobbling around. They are just good conmen, easily manipulate the leftie media and lefties in society.

Palestinians were granted their own state in 1948. The British Mandate of Palestine was broken up, 80% went to Jordan, 10% to Arab state, 10% Jewish state. The allah akbar jihad brigade decided that the forces of Islam getting 90% of this British colonial possession wasn't good enough, let's start a war and kill all the jews and take the lot.

But they got their asses handed to them. And they got their asses handed to them again in 1967, and in 1973. And ever since then. A group of civilian jews from Europe kicked the living bejesus out of what 10 Arab countries' professional armies?

So they started and continued a war that they keep on losing, and have become the biggest international cry babies about having to live with the consequences of their own actions. It is pathetic that some people are fooled.

And in fact many of the westerners that support HAMAS, would be readily beaten to death, raped, and have their heads chopped off on youtube by the people they support. What is the most amazing thing ever is that there is an organisation called Queers for Palestine - when HAMAS beats gays to death.

So much stupid, so little time.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Western Apologist on Nov 29th, 2012 at 9:05pm
You are the shinning star of intelligence and wisdom.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Spot of Borg on Nov 30th, 2012 at 4:37am

Calanen wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 8:53pm:
Having actually spent time with people and spoken to them about what it is like to live in a REAL nazi ghetto, I don't think that Gaza qualifies.

40% of people in Gaza are obese.

That certainly didn't happen in Warsaw.


*if* there are any obese ppl in gaza - which i doubt - it would be because they are relegated to eating cheap grains instead of fresh vegetables etc.

SOB

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 7:49am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 6:52pm:

Sorry I can't give you a lengthy response yadda - see being Thursday night (the night before the muslim holy day), its good to do something islamic.


So me and my muslim buddies are just going off to enslave some hot chicks


- and I could be a little late because we're planning on going to the local synagogue afterwards and behead a few hundred jews - to the tune of that catchy "killing jews is worship" song you posted in the other thread (thanks for that). No doubt all this work for Allah will give us quite an appetite, so I hope to find a few non-muslim babies we can fire up on the barbie.



Yes, i am sure!



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Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 7:57am

The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted by moslems.

....gandalf.




polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 2:13pm:


Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
So, in ISLAM it is lawful to abduct women [and later have sex with them] ???


To point out the obvious (or so it would seem obvious to everyone except Yadda), we are talking about women whose menfolk were killed during their war with the muslims.

These women were enslaved by the muslims - because

unlike most christian and virtually every other contemporary army - the muslims didn't actually put every man, woman and child to death after conquering them. Perhaps in Yadda world they should have left these widows and orphans to fend for themselves - and watch them as they starved to death.

The reality was, enslavement meant protection,

and probable freedom later on.

I don't find it the least bit surprising that many of these slaves would fall in love with their masters and agree to consensual sex.




The justification for, the sexual enslavement of captured women, by moslem men, which gandalf presented [above],  is essentially, the same [moslem] argument which Abu used, to justify moslem FORNICATION, i.e. the rape of captive women;
[n.b. >> Un-sanctioned << FORNICATION is normally a capital offence in ISLAMIC law [if committed by a married person]!]

i.e.
Abu has argued that moslem men were [in a sense] 'marrying' these captured women, and thereafter the moslem men were having consensual sex with women who they were taking care of, and who they were providing with food and shelter.

SO, IT IS NOT RAPE.



SO, this sexual 'use' was in fact, just a normal domestic arrangement, between a woman and her benefactor/provider.

It was a circumstance where the moslem man is entitled to have sex with a [previously captured] woman, because the moslem man was now domestically caring for.


Quote:

ABU SAID,
Quote:
What you need to realise is that in the Bible (ie. According to the "God of Israel") and the Islamic texts, this is not considered fornication, but is considered like marriage, and the man has a duty of care to clothe, feed and house the woman, just like a wife.




Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251760605/0#0







Previous discussion / debate on OzPol, about the justification given in ISLAM, for the rape of the captive [kufir] woman....

rape in Islam
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1289014566/0#0


proper Islamic rape
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1264373261/0#0


UK, young girls plied with drugs, then raped,
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1329870100/0#0


White girls [in the UK] seen as 'easy meat' by Pakistani rapists, says Jack Straw
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1294544694/0#0


The slavery - rape and pillage complex
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1330835332/0#0


Do muslims even know what rape is?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335585972/0#0


does Islam equate sex and rape?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1330935607/0#0


More religiously-motivated rapes??
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1246603234/16#16


The Punishment For Rape In Islam
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1331088474/6#6


Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8




Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 8:07am
The ISLAMIC rape of the 'available' kifur woman.


What every non-moslem needs to understand about ISLAMIC culture and moslem behaviour is;

To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.

And the rape of non-moslem women, is permitted by Sharia law.




Google,
"they had no right to say no"

Google,
"rape jihad"

Google,
beslan children raped jihad





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Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 8:31am
We of the West are immeasurably "enriched" by the moslem multiculturalism, which we have CHOSEN to welcome into our heart.
/sarc offi




Quote:
Betrayed by the PC brigade: From the Mail writer who first revealed the scandal of Muslim sex gangs, a damning exposé of how politically correct police and social workers betrayed underage white victims

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/page/4/


WHEN YOU OPEN THE LINK ABOVE, THE PAGE WHICH OPENS JUST GOES ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON,
....CATALOGUING A ROGUES GALLERY, OF ISLAMIC INSPIRED RAPES IN WESTERN EUROPE.





Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by gandalf on Nov 30th, 2012 at 10:57am

Yadda wrote on Nov 30th, 2012 at 8:31am:
JUST GOES ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON


gee that does sound familiar. Has it ever dawned on you that no one is reading these rants of yours? Does it bother you that all this effort you're going to is completely wasted?

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Robert Paulson on Nov 30th, 2012 at 11:14am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 30th, 2012 at 4:37am:
40% of people in Gaza are obese.


Ay-rabs in general have dreadful bodies.  The product of a high fat/high carb/low protein diet.

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by freediver on Nov 30th, 2012 at 1:42pm
Gandalf, do you have an opinion on the endorsement of slavery and rape by Islam?

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by gandalf on Nov 30th, 2012 at 3:17pm
yes - its a myth obviously  :)

Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 7:17pm
An example of how the >unimpeachable< male dominance within moslem families [which is empowered by, and within ISLAM], can go so, so wrong;

Iraq: Girls sold as sex slaves, then prosecuted for prostitution and other "crimes"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/iraq-girls-sold-as-sex-slaves-then-prosecuted-for-prostitution-and-other-crimes.html



Q.
Why are there so many examples of abuse like this, happening within ISLAMIC communities?
[And these types of events are ALWAYS portrayed by good moslems, as 'aberrant' behaviour, among moslems,
n.b....But these abuses are >only< criticised as 'aberrant' behaviour, AFTER THESE ABUSES, COME TO THE LIGHT OF DAY.]

A.
Because Sharia is a system of laws, which innately >encourages the oppression<, of the 'weaker', by the 'stronger'.

Because ISLAM promotes system of laws [Sharia], which empowers people based on their [social] status, >NOT< MERIT.

Because ISLAM promotes a closed [unchangeable] system of laws [Sharia], which nobody is permitted to criticise.

Sharia is a system of laws, designed to reinforce ISLAM's own brutal, and unjust authority.

The victims of [real] injustices within a Sharia jurisdiction, are powerless victims, because they are people who have no social status within a moslem community.
[e.g. women, children, AND, non-moslems!]

When the powerless within a Sharia jurisdiction are sometimes brave enough to complain about an injustice, they will ALWAYS be portrayed as liars and/or 'law breakers' [i.e. apostates].

Portrayed as liars and/or 'law breakers';
e.g.
In the story quoted above, these girls were,
1/ sold as sex slaves, then,
2/ the victims themselves! were prosecuted [under Sharia!] for their 'criminal' behaviour.





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FD....

Quote:

Gandalf, do you have an opinion on the endorsement of slavery and rape by Islam?




polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

yes - its a myth obviously  :)





Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 7:28pm

Quote:

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"
"....Islamic leaders routinely castigate the West for its immorality, but their alternative is this veneer of morality covering barbarity, brutality, and the use of women as commodities.
........"We want our youth to be protected from adultery," said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout [i.e. moslem] merchants.
This is not religiously forbidden," she added,"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-legalizing-sex-slavery-to-protect-men-from-adultery-or-co.html

i.e.
In the article above, ISLAMISTS are saying, that the keeping of captive [non-moslem] women [within Sharia jurisdictions] as sex slaves, is completely 'lawful' within ISLAM.

And that raping those sex slaves [female captives] is halal [i.e. kosher].
see also, THE DESCRIPTION OF LIFE IN A 'RIGHTLY GUIDED' ISLAMIC CALIPHATE...

"Egyptian imam: "When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her" "
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/egyptian-imam-when-i-want-a-sex-slave-i-just-go-to-the-market-and-choose-the-woman-i-like-and-purcha.html



FURTHER....

If we examine the sunna of Mohammed, it is clear that Mohammed himself, and his companions too, WERE "slaves of their own desires".

Dictionary;
Sunna = = the traditional portion of Muslim law based on Muhammad’s words or acts, accepted (together with the Koran) as authoritative by Muslims.



And it is the testimony of ISLAMIC texts which attest to the fact, that Mohammed and his companions WERE "slaves of their own desires".

Moslems today, ARE "slaves of their own desires".



THE FACT IS THAT...
Allah allows moslem men to rape female [non-moslem] captives.

Moslem logic exposed;

Q.
WHY SO?
Why does Allah permit moslem men to rape female [non-moslem] captives ???

A.
Allah makes it 'LAWFUL' for moslem men to rape female [non-moslem] captives, so as to protect those moslem men from committing adultery and being guilty of moral corruption.

LOL              :D                  ;D                  ;D

Adultery AND moral corruption, is bad, and punishable by death within ISLAMIC law.

But it is halal [kosher] for a moslem man, to rape female [non-moslem] captives.

And the ISLAMIC deity, Allah, says that that, is moral behaviour.

Go figure.






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FD....

Quote:

Gandalf, do you have an opinion on the endorsement of slavery and rape by Islam?




polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2012 at 3:17pm:

yes - its a myth obviously  :)






Title: Re: The SEXUAL SLAVERY OF WOMEN is fine, if conducted
Post by Yadda on Nov 30th, 2012 at 7:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2012 at 10:57am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 30th, 2012 at 8:31am:
JUST GOES ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON


gee that does sound familiar.


Has it ever dawned on you that no one is reading these rants of yours?

Does it bother you that all this effort you're going to is completely wasted?




gandalf,

I am just a fool.

I am happy content to be a fool in this world.

And even if not one person will respond to the words that i speak [and to others like me, who speak], i must speak, we must speak.

The spirit within me, compels me to speak.

I must speak.






Ezekiel 33:6
But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.



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