Sorry its not a good article - theres better ones out there.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/newtown-shooting-residents-shocked-mass-killing-adorable-town/story?id=17976401


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The small town of Newtown, Conn., was shocked when a gunman killed 27 people, mostly children, at Sandy Hook Elementary School, a school in the quaint community that parents call "an adorable little town." Newtown's schools went into lockdown this morning as SWAT teams descended on the Sandy Hook Elementary after the shooting was reported to state police at 9:40 a.m. "[We] never would have thought anything like this would happen here. It's a large town but it's got a real small-town, family feel, and this is just unimaginable," Christine, a mother of a student at Sandy Hook, told ABC News today. LIVE UPDATES: Newtown, Conn., School Shooting As of November, Sandy Hook Elementary School had 456 children enrolled, according to Newtown Public Schools. Most are between 4 and 10 years old. Joan Varga, whose 24-year-old son Teddy is a fourth grade teacher of all subjects at Sandy Hook, told ABCNews.com that the fourth grade class sang at the high school this week. Connecticut School Shooting: Student Describes Scene Watch Video Connecticut Shooting: 27 Dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School Watch Video Connecticut School Shooting: White House Response Watch Video "It was big deal, they were so excited. It's a great school, it's a community school. The ceilings are relatively low, the basketball hoops are low. These are just innocent kids. It's awful," she said. "My son is proud to be a teacher. It's just a very good school." CLICK HERE for more photos from the scene. Varga said that her son helped some colleagues get out of the building. He was not teaching at the time of the shooting, but was in a meeting with colleagues in a conference room. She also described the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, as a dedicated and caring educator. "Dawn, who is the principal there, she's married to a teacher down in Danbury," she said. "Their daughter was getting married this summer. It's horrible. She was so excited about her kids and what they were doing at the school." Sandy Hook Elementary School, which teaches K-4, is a Connecticut Vanguard School, which recognizes academic excellence and high student performance. Sandy Hook, with a population of about 11,000, is a village in Newtown borough, part of Connecticut's Fairfield County. It sits near the Housatonic River and is a popular destination for beaches and fishing. It is also home to McLaughlin Vineyards, a family-owned and operated vineyard. "It's an adorable little town," Varga said. "I don't know how you get it back." The town also has some famous residents, both past and present, perhaps most notably Suzanne Collins, author of "The Hunger Games" series, and Bruce Jenner, the 1976 Summer Olympics decathlon gold medalist. "ER's" Anthony Edwards and illustrator and author William Hamilton Gibson have also called the village home. ABC News' Adriana Pratt contributed to this report

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thank god those schoolkids arent equipped with tasers.

aquascoot wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 6:57am:

thank god those schoolkids arent equipped with tasers.

Well its prolly good they arent equipped with guns either

SOB

Sadly the Americans would rather slaughter each other than part with their guns so if thats their thing and they keep their murderous ways within their own borders Ive stopped caring.

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adelcrow wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 7:24am:

Sadly the Americans would rather slaughter each other than part with their guns so if thats their thing and they keep their murderous ways within their own borders Ive stopped caring.

It's quite possible the shooting wouldn't have been possible without the (relatively) easy access to firearms in the United States compared to most other developed countries, but it's obviously not the root cause given it has been a heavily armed society for centuries but school shootings are a recent phenomenon. Many elements in the media however aren't capable of discussing this any other way, and certainly are not willing to admit that American society is a total failure and turns out lunatics like this regularly.

there's always a kneejerk response to DO SOMETHING when black swan tragedies occur

that's because of the law of small numbers--we notice poo like this waaaay more than the 15,000 murders (not to mention attempted murders averted by good luck and/or trauma surgery) a year. overall murder rates for the usa when you control by demography are higher than in european countries but not much higher

9/11 was such a black swan event and americans DID SOMETHING

several unnecessary federal bureaucracies were created, civil rights were drastically curtailed, unnecessary foreign wars were launched, and air travel made miserable for everyone

did these reduce future terrorist attacks? probably not but it's impossible to know

similarly school shootings are black swan events, and unlike terrorist attacks don't threaten the rule of law and thus are less dangerous

very few of them actually happen, and while the individual incidents are atrocious how many people die of school shootings in a year?

regardlesss im not really a fan of gun control and dont think the evidence demonstrates it consequences in that much of an effective decrease in violence but some of the arguments against it appear silly really (and some of the arguments in favour of it arent bad)

like idk i can completely get where people are coming when they say nobody needs to own a semi automatic rifle or an automatic rifle

also that braindead GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE line

This is what my american friend said about it:


Quote:

This shooting at the school is tragic and shocking but not typical. Every day more 35 people are killed by armed robbers, home invaders, or in domestic disputes with firearms. We seldom hear about it on the news, not unless someone famous is involved. About 50 people a day will kill themselves with a gun, many of them are children. The US loses a larger portion of our children to firearms than any other two countries. Every single day of the year. And that doesn't include the victims that survive. 200,000 woundings a year. A study done in 2008 showed that about half of the young people (10 to 19 years of age) that die of unnatural causes will be murdered, 88% from gunshot wounds. But the logic seems to be that about the same number of people will die in alcohol related traffic accidents so guns shouldn't be regulated.

http://aussie-site.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1115

SOB

I don't know what the Yanks can do to stop this.

There are so many guns in the USA - more than 1 per person -  300 million -
that you could never get rid of them all.

Even in Australia - just watch the Underbelly series based on true events -
the criminals always seem to have ready access to guns
yet we have strict gun controls.

Yeah they could try to limit the sale of firearms to criminals and mentally ill though. Apparently their gun lobbies dont even want that.

SOB

This happens a lot in American schools. Perhaps all the children should be armed.

adelcrow wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 7:24am:

Sadly the Americans would rather slaughter each other than part with their guns so if thats their thing and they keep their murderous ways within their own borders Ive stopped caring.

Americans need and have guns so they can mow down home invaders etc instead of being chopped or shot to death.

We need them for the same reasons, but are not allowed to have them, so as a result we get murdered-hacked to death in our own homes.
Sitting ducks we are.


The 'Rednecks' have the right idea...even granny and the kids are machine gun savvy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkM2Se3tqaU

Iblis wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

This happens a lot in American schools. Perhaps all the children should be armed.

A better idea would be to adopt uncle bambu's watertight/airtight school security systems...no shooters would get in to massacre the office staff, kinder kids, or anyone else then.

People in American forums don't like my idea of all schools being fenced like 'prisons' [see anyone getting into prisons thru the fences or over the walls?]

3 stage entry system, including metal detectors and pat-downs.
Properly-trained staff from uncle bambu's company doing the security. Mean-looking staff, on the lookout for the bad people shooters, [who could be connected with the school/teachers etc in some way].

What price the lives of all those kindy kids and their teachers?

There was a new security system installed in that Newtown school only recently, but someone buzzed the shooter in...his mother worked at the school.

Also, parents etc were piggy-backing in the door when someone else was buzzed in, ...bad security.

The shooter killed his father in NJ, killed his mother in Newtown...and reportedly used her guns to kill the office staff, teachers and the kinder kids at the school.

Iblis wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

This happens a lot in American schools. Perhaps all the children should be armed.

I must say that I've seen some absolute pearlers here over the years.

But that one goes close to taking the Golden Lollipop....  :o :o

Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16^th, 2012 at 4:40am:

Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB

The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students.
Unarmed, they just got slaughtered.

If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers.

The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported.

JC Denton wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 7:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 15th, 2012 at 7:24am: Sadly the Americans would rather slaughter each other than part with their guns so if thats their thing and they keep their murderous ways within their own borders Ive stopped caring. It's quite possible the shooting wouldn't have been possible without the (relatively) easy access to firearms in the United States compared to most other developed countries, but it's obviously not the root cause given it has been a heavily armed society for centuries but school shootings are a recent phenomenon. Many elements in the media however aren't capable of discussing this any other way, and certainly are not willing to admit that American society is a total failure and turns out lunatics like this regularly. there's always a kneejerk response to DO SOMETHING when black swan tragedies occur that's because of the law of small numbers--we notice poo like this waaaay more than the 15,000 murders (not to mention attempted murders averted by good luck and/or trauma surgery) a year. overall murder rates for the usa when you control by demography are higher than in european countries but not much higher 9/11 was such a black swan event and americans DID SOMETHING several unnecessary federal bureaucracies were created, civil rights were drastically curtailed, unnecessary foreign wars were launched, and air travel made miserable for everyone did these reduce future terrorist attacks? probably not but it's impossible to know similarly school shootings are black swan events, and unlike terrorist attacks don't threaten the rule of law and thus are less dangerous very few of them actually happen, and while the individual incidents are atrocious how many people die of school shootings in a year? regardlesss im not really a fan of gun control and dont think the evidence demonstrates it consequences in that much of an effective decrease in violence but some of the arguments against it appear silly really (and some of the arguments in favour of it arent bad) like idk i can completely get where people are coming when they say nobody needs to own a semi automatic rifle or an automatic rifle also that braindead GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE line

JC: YOU ARE HEREBY DECLARED THE BIGGEST FRAUD...

EVERY POPULATION,... READ THAT AGAIN DOOD--->>[b] EVERY POPULATION TURNS OUT LUNATICS: THIS IS WHAT A POPULATION DISTRIBUTION CURVE- AND THE SCIENCES THAT INVENTED IT TO SUPPORT THEM- IS ALL ABOUT!

LOL MY LITTLE ACORN OFF I'M TELLING YA!![/b]


  ::) ::)  ;D

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15^th, 2012 at 8:49am:

I don't know what the Yanks can do to stop this. There are so many guns in the USA - more than 1 per person -  300 million - that you could never get rid of them all. Even in Australia - just watch the Underbelly series based on true events - the criminals always seem to have ready access to guns yet we have strict gun controls.

lIFE IS A COMPLEX THING: TO BE TOP DOG YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT RHYTHM... SUCH AS MAKING GUNS YOUR GOD!

bambu wrote on Dec 16^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 4:40am: Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students. Unarmed, they just got slaughtered. If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers. The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported.

So you think principles of primary schools should have an easily accessible machine gun?

SOB

bambu wrote on Dec 16^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 4:40am: Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students. Unarmed, they just got slaughtered. If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers. The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported.

IMAGE...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MbeUiR5pUMo/UM3-yuL_C3I/AAAAAAABGnw/dOCpkmJr_oY/s1600/Israeli%2Bgun%2Bcontrol.jpg
WHY ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE USA-STYLE SCHOOL MASSACRES

Image source....
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.il/2012/12/actually-its-kind-of-hard-to-get-gun-in.html#links





Once again, the Jews lead the world, showing us how to protect children [and ourselves] from the criminally insane.

This was the response by a Newtown resident, being asked by an Australian media person, if Americans should now support the outlawing of dangerous firearms ?

"Why out law firearms ?   Many people are killed in cars every day, but we don't try to outlaw cars."



So, why not ?

If large numbers of people are killed by the cars on our roads [the figures used to be ~ 3,000 per year in Australia!], why not ban cars,
OR,
prevent ALL vehicles from going faster than 15 km/hr ??????????


It makes the same sense, as banning firearms ["....coz, firearms kill people"].

And of course, even if the ownership of firearms [by peaceable and law-abiding citizens] was totally banned, there would still be firearms 'in the community'.

Because the government would still see a 'need' for ITS servants to have ready access to firearms.

Q.
Why should the police [and other agencies of the state] be permitted to have firearms, when firearms are 'very dangerous' ?

And, criminals would still have firearms, and they would still threaten and murder other citizens with those firearms.








SEE ALSO....
Why collectivism is antithetical to liberty is argued [and demonstrated in that argument, imo] in the 1st of these two simple video presentations.

Pt1 The Nature and Origin of Human Rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=MkSHg3JV_V8


Gun Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=8RoMqB0VU4U

As obama pointed out its the yank culture. It is a culture of violence. Seriously why should anyone have access to a sub machine gun?

PS: If you are going to call countries that are NOT socialist that then what word will there be for the actual socialist countries?

SOB

Yadda wrote on Dec 17^th, 2012 at 11:52pm:

This was the response by a Newtown resident, being asked by an Australian media person, if Americans should now support the outlawing of dangerous firearms ? "Why out law firearms ?   Many people are killed in cars every day, but we don't try to outlaw cars." So, why not ? If large numbers of people are killed by the cars on our roads [the figures used to be ~ 3,000 per year in Australia!], why not ban cars, OR, prevent ALL vehicles from going faster than 15 km/hr ?????????? It makes the same sense, as banning firearms ["....coz, firearms kill people"]. And of course, even if the ownership of firearms [by peaceable and law-abiding citizens] was totally banned, there would still be firearms 'in the community'. Because the government would still see a 'need' for ITS servants to have ready access to firearms. Q. Why should the police [and other agencies of the state] be permitted to have firearms, when firearms are 'very dangerous' ? And, criminals would still have firearms, and they would still threaten and murder other citizens with those firearms. SEE ALSO.... Why collectivism is antithetical to liberty is argued [and demonstrated in that argument, imo] in the 1st of these two simple video presentations. Pt1 The Nature and Origin of Human Rights http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=MkSHg3JV_V8 Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=8RoMqB0VU4U

What absolute nonsense yadda.

As if cars are used for the same purpose as guns.

Seriously , you are gonna have to come up with a better argument than that.


Next you'll be saying that we should ban knives because any nutter without a gun can just pick up a knife and kill that many people.

Well here's another news item from yesterday;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/china-school-attack-doomsday-rumors_n_2313876.html?utm_hp_ref=world

"Min Yongjun is suspected of going into an elderly woman's house Friday morning and stabbing her with a kitchen knife. He then allegedly went to a nearby elementary school in Chenpeng village in Guangshan county and injured the 23 children before being stopped by teachers and police."






See the difference?

Yadda wrote on Dec 17^th, 2012 at 11:22pm:

bambu wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 2:03pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 4:40am: Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students. Unarmed, they just got slaughtered. If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers. The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported. IMAGE... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MbeUiR5pUMo/UM3-yuL_C3I/AAAAAAABGnw/dOCpkmJr_oY/s1600/Israeli%2Bgun%2Bcontrol.jpg WHY ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE USA-STYLE SCHOOL MASSACRES Image source.... http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.il/2012/12/actually-its-kind-of-hard-to-get-gun-in.html#links Once again, the Jews lead the world, showing us how to protect children [and ourselves] from the criminally insane.

And what a great , moral , safe country israel is.

A real beacon to the world.


What an example to live by.

darkhall67,
SPOT,


We don't need to protect ourselves from 'guns'.

We need to protect ourselves from, THE CRIMINALLY INSANE.
[Many of whom, are those persons who want to avoid responsibility, for the consequences of their own 'poor' choices.]

Q.
And how can that be best accomplished ?

A.
By [as much as is possible] seeking to separate ourselves from those who are criminally insane.
And by seeking to separate those who are criminally insane, from ourselves.






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It would be totally moral, to let [to compel!] the criminally insane, live among their own,
...the criminally insane.

And to let those who are peaceable and law abiding, live among those who are peaceable and law abiding.

And you may, or may not be aware of it, but one of those two 'situations' is [essentially] going to be our own fate.

In our own choices [in our 'journey' here], everyday, we are 'confirming' our choice, to either live in the 'light, or, to be compelled to live in the 'darkness' [...with those others who also love the 'darkness'].


God is our creator, and God's message to mankind, has ALWAYS been, that we should,
1/ seek to please our God,
2/ and we should seek to discern between good, and evil [and that we should separate 'the precious from the vile'].


Don't let people try to tell you that 'discrimination' is a social crime.     [ <--- that comes from SATAN's camp.]

The ABILITY to separate 'the precious from the vile', is a virtue which God appreciates.



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"I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people."

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.




Leviticus 20:26
And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.


Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2  He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.


2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Isaiah 64:4
For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he [God] hath prepared for him that waiteth for him [God].





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darkhall67,


Quote:

And what a great , moral , safe country israel is. A real beacon to the world. What an example to live by.

I too, wish that that were 100% true.        :P

Yadda wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 10:17am:

Q. And how can that be best accomplished ? A. By [as much as is possible] seeking to separate ourselves from those who are criminally insane. And by seeking to separate those who are criminally insane, from ourselves.

And how do you propose to do that? by the time we fond out who is criminally insane they have done their deed and died.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 10:28am:

Yadda wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 10:17am: Q. And how can that be best accomplished ? A. By [as much as is possible] seeking to separate ourselves from those who are criminally insane. And by seeking to separate those who are criminally insane, from ourselves. And how do you propose to do that? by the time we fond out who is criminally insane they have done their deed and died. SOB

SPOT,

If we want to know who the criminally insane are;

All we need to do is to watch their behaviour, and to apply truth in our judgement [...of their behaviour].iA simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.


Quote:

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society]. And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

Every day, countless people pass you by on the street, who should not be walking our streets, but should have been be locked up [separated from other citizens], because they have been convicted of a serious crime, but they are not locked away.

Q.
Why does our society refuse to lock up [permanently] people who have been convicted of a serious crime ?

e.g.
Murderers.
Child murderers.
Negligent homicide.
Lying politicians.     [ <---- people who asked for the trust of the citizens, and then betrayed that trust.]
Drink drivers who have caused the death of another innocent party.
....and many more.

That may be so but has nothing to do with the mass murders in america. The ppl doing them typically have no criminal records.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

That may be so but has nothing to do with the mass murders in america. The ppl doing them typically have no criminal records. SOB

And why is that then ??????



Yadda said....

Quote:

SPOT, If we want to know who the criminally insane are; All we need to do is to watch their behaviour, and to apply truth in our judgement [...of their behaviour].

Too many people today, HATE TRUTH.

And many people today are not prepared to condemn what is wrong [i.e. evil].

Q.
Why  not ?

A.
Because it is not PC to 'discriminate' between what is good and what is evil.




People who are moral cowards, will be discarded by God.

Boo, hoo.


Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The moral cowards.

bambu wrote on Dec 16^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 4:40am: Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students. Unarmed, they just got slaughtered. If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers. The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported.

What a great idea! How many kids do you think the principal could have killed? How many would be caught in the crossfire?

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

bambu wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 2:03pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 4:40am: Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students. Unarmed, they just got slaughtered. If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers. The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported. What a great idea! How many kids do you think the principal could have killed? How many would be caught in the crossfire?

Are you against training as well?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 12:05pm: bambu wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 2:03pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 4:40am: Somebody on the TV last night was saying there should have been more guns in the school to defend themselves. . . .maybe iblis wasnt joking SOB The teachers/principal ran at the shooter to try to save their students. Unarmed, they just got slaughtered. If the principal had emerged from her office firing a machine gun from her hip, she probably would've had a good chance of killing the shooter and saving the lives of the kindy kids and the teachers. The killer forced his way into the school, and was not buzzed in/let in as earlier reported. What a great idea! How many kids do you think the principal could have killed? How many would be caught in the crossfire? Are you against training as well?

EVER HEARD OF COLLATERAL DAMAGE??

...THOSE PEOPLE ARE TRAINED TOO YOU KNOW!  :-? :-?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UhO0Pul_FcE

Yadda wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 11:15am: That may be so but has nothing to do with the mass murders in america. The ppl doing them typically have no criminal records. SOB And why is that then ?????? Yadda said.... Quote: SPOT, If we want to know who the criminally insane are; All we need to do is to watch their behaviour, and to apply truth in our judgement [...of their behaviour]. Too many people today, HATE TRUTH. And many people today are not prepared to condemn what is wrong [i.e. evil]. Q. Why  not ? A. Because it is not PC to 'discriminate' between what is good and what is evil. People who are moral cowards, will be discarded by God. Boo, hoo. Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. The moral cowards.

Yadda what exactly are you trying to say? That the police should hire psychics to weed out potential shooters?

SOB

Gun Control works wonders, Just Look at Autsralia..  Thanks to Gun control we have drive by shootings so often we now have stats on if they are up or down for the month.

Before Gun Control such things were unheard of in Australia.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Gun Control works wonders, Just Look at Autsralia..  Thanks to Gun control we have drive by shootings so often we now have stats on if they are up or down for the month. Before Gun Control such things were unheard of in Australia.

That's just the crims getting rid of other crims though, they don't randomly choose their targets.

Its a bit of a twisted state if we think gun control stops massacres. It sure didnt stop the Childers Palace Backpackers Massacre (QLD) that killed 15 people. As no gun was needed there as all he used was a petrol and a match. But then again they didnt label that a massacre as it wasnt a gun. As if burning people to death is much nicer then shooting them.

Quote:

Its a bit of a twisted state if we think gun control stops massacres.

No, but it helps prevent them. What do you want? Not to try to stop massacres by firearms simply because you can't stop the ones caused by other methods?

There have been no gun related massacres in Australia since 1996.

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

Quote: Its a bit of a twisted state if we think gun control stops massacres. No, but it helps prevent them. What do you want? Not to try to stop massacres by firearms simply because you can't stop the ones caused by other methods? There have been no gun related massacres in Australia since 1996.

but plenty of shottings this week, just like last week

Well yadda?

SOB

Speed the day when Americans come to the realisation that their constitution was not handed to their 'founding fathers' by Jesus.

That will be the day they can have a meaningful discussion on the pernicious potentiality of the second amendment and a sane perception of what the founding fathers had in mind, being, essentially taking a swipe at their former British overlords who refused the colonists permission to defend themselves by whatever means they saw fit against 'the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.'