http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/12/26/15/06/innoncent-man-detained-and-drugged

Innocent man wrongfully detained and drugged
Martin Zavan, ninemsn 3:06pm December 26, 2012

A Perth man was wrongfully detained and given anti-psychotic drugs after he was accidentally mistaken for an escaped psychiatric patient.

In mid-December a patient left Perth's Graylands Mental Hospital without permission and police were called in to help locate the man, PerthNow reports.
On December 16 a man fitting the patient's description was picked up by police and taken to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital, where he was held overnight.
The man was then given anti-psychotic drugs which caused an adverse reaction and resulted in him becoming ill.
The real escaped patient returned to Graylands on December 18 and staff realised a mistake had been made.
Minister for Mental Health Helen Morton has apologised for the "dreadful mistake".
""I am very sorry for the distress and hurt that the misidentified man has endured.
The incident is being investigated by health authorities and the Western Australian Police.
Source: WA Today

Freaking incompetents, they should all lose their comfy jobs. At least he wasn't tasered to death, something to be grateful for. I hope he's got a lawyer already, he deserves a good compo pay out, and I'm sure he'll get it.

simply a case of mistaken identity by the police .. why make it sound like it's some sort of govt. conspiracy?

I'm sure the police should have just let him go when he said 'it's not me, you've got the wrong man'... after all, they only hear that about 100 times a day. It shouldn't happen but occasionally it does.

That kind of crap happens all the time. Not so much the police as the medical facility. Of course the man denied being the escaped guy but they didnt believe him.

SOB

yes the government

by law

has the right to do this

you vote for the politicians that implement these laws

many well meaning people are led by the nose

to the trough of facism

be at peace with this

namaste

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 3:05pm:

Freaking incompetents, they should all lose their comfy jobs. At least he wasn't tasered to death, something to be grateful for. I hope he's got a lawyer already, he deserves a good compo pay out, and I'm sure he'll get it.

tax payer paid compo for a simple mistake, medical and police hatred again (why no mention of priests, surely they must have had something to do with it) ;)

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 3:24pm:

simply a case of mistaken identity by the police .. why make it sound like it's some sort of govt. conspiracy? I'm sure the police should have just let him go when he said 'it's not me, you've got the wrong man'... after all, they only hear that about 100 times a day. It shouldn't happen but occasionally it does.

thank you john,  the other 3 numpties obviously never make a mistake 9probably because you actually have to DO SOMETHING to make a mistake

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 3:28pm:

That kind of crap happens all the time. Not so much the police as the medical facility. Of course the man denied being the escaped guy but they didnt believe him. SOB

it would happen a lot more if people with your brain were ever employed in health facilities

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 4:01pm:

yes the government by law has the right to do this you vote for the politicians that implement these laws many well meaning people are led by the nose to the trough of facism be at peace with this namaste

so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ... you cannot have police protecting you, and then cry about it when they do their jobs.

so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ...

_____________

you take ungranted liberties

then answer with ignorance and confusion

your own inane proposition..

this is a reflection of your consciousness..

this is not my burden that you should have the care

to carry that which you do desire

be at peace

namaste

-:)

you cannot have police protecting you

___________

i am that i am

and need no protection other than that

which i do embody

and so it is i do not have the same comfort

for fear that you do

with compassion for your fear based reality

and response that you do project

be at peace

namaste

-:)

The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account.

State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account. State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes.

hospitals full of hard working top blokes and shielas should never be held to account by fat lazy stupid legalistic bureacrats and smug lawyers and "risk management consultants" who dont have the balls to do hospital work or police work.


the first group (cops and health workers ) are pillars of society who need our support not our judgement.

the second are the wreckers of vocations and noble professions.
they must be despised for the snivelling paper shufflers they are. >:( >:( >:(

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 3:28pm: That kind of crap happens all the time. Not so much the police as the medical facility. Of course the man denied being the escaped guy but they didnt believe him. SOB it would happen a lot more if people with your brain were ever employed in health facilities

Awww poor thing has to lash out because he has no argument

SOB

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:42pm: The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account. State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes. hospitals full of hard working top blokes and shielas should never be held to account by fat lazy stupid legalistic bureacrats and smug lawyers and "risk management consultants" who dont have the balls to do hospital work or police work. the first group (cops and health workers ) are pillars of society who need our support not our judgement. the second are the wreckers of vocations and noble professions. they must be despised for the snivelling paper shufflers they are. >:( >:( >:(

I wonder if you would be talking like that if it was you that was mistaken for someone else and pumped full of drugs?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:42pm: The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account. State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes. hospitals full of hard working top blokes and shielas should never be held to account by fat lazy stupid legalistic bureacrats and smug lawyers and "risk management consultants" who dont have the balls to do hospital work or police work. the first group (cops and health workers ) are pillars of society who need our support not our judgement. the second are the wreckers of vocations and noble professions. they must be despised for the snivelling paper shufflers they are. >:( >:( >:( I wonder if you would be talking like that if it was you that was mistaken for someone else and pumped full of drugs? SOB

i would thank the doctor and the police for all their hard years of service and let them know it was an honest mistake. i would tell them how much we, the citizens, appreciate the wonderful job they do.

I doubt many would be that forgiving and neither should they be. You're giving them the green light to do it again, and the next poor sucker could have an adverse reaction to the drug.

I doubt the health department would be looking into it unless an official complaint was made. Giving the wrong person, the wrong medication is a biggy.

Granted, everyone makes mistakes, but they shouldn't be swept under the carpet.

I just heard the actual news report and see why some ppl have this attitude thats its fine- the guy was aboriginal!

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 7:06pm:

I just heard the actual news report and see why some ppl have this attitude thats its fine- the guy was aboriginal! SOB

Ok. We wouldn't want him sueing the government for a cool million $$$$ would we?

That sort of thing is never alright, it must always be investigated fully, no matter who it is.

That poor bloke will be afraid to step out of the house from now on, that's gotta bring in some serious compo, he'll need ongoing treatment and care.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 5:42pm:

The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account. State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes.

unless the hospital has any reason to dispute the identity the police provide why would they even question it?

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ... _____________ you take ungranted liberties then answer with ignorance and confusion your own inane proposition.. this is a reflection of your consciousness.. this is not my burden that you should have the care to carry that which you do desire be at peace namaste -:)

I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ...

you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ... 

I don't understand this thread.
Why couldn't the guy the cops picked up calmly explain that he wasn't the person they were after?

Surely he would have had some ID on him or was he some incoherent drunk they found in a park?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:28pm:

I don't understand this thread. Why couldn't the guy the cops picked up calmly explain that he wasn't the person they were after? Surely he would have had some ID on him or was he some incoherent drunk they found in a park?

I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up .... I'm sure if he was reasonable the cops would have tried to confirm his details before locking him in a psycho ward. Mind you, it's not always easy to tell the difference between a drug or alcohol induced rant and someone with a mental health problem trying to expalin something ...

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:23pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:06pm: so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ... _____________ you take ungranted liberties then answer with ignorance and confusion your own inane proposition.. this is a reflection of your consciousness.. this is not my burden that you should have the care to carry that which you do desire be at peace namaste -:) I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ... you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ...

i observe you being a scared little bunny

i do not need to be so fearful as you

i do not have the same sychophantic displays

and longing for submission as you do

i am not you and your worry of fear

i am that i am in the light and not of your helplessness

you may think you have to be this helpless

relying on police to wipe your fearful bottom

.....that is not me

be at peace

namaste

I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up ....

_________

here you go again not knowing facts make up stories

and build a foundation upon ignorance

this is your freewill to play in this wonderland

of fear ignorance and illusion

just because you are a scared rabbit...does not mean

that other men are as limp wristed and helpless as you

be at peace with this fact

namaste

-:)

You ppl have no idea about real-life do you. The police just automatically decided he was the guy and ignored his protests to the contrary. Prolly didnt even ask his name. They take him to hospital and hospital policy is believe the police even if you know its not true. Doublethink. Doesn't matter how much the guy protests theres no way anyone is going to believe him if the police said something different. He prolly was calmly telling them he wasnt who they said he was - @ least until they started drugging him. There was no way they were going to listen. I have worked in the field and i have seen this crap before. They always take the police word for it and never question even if they know the police are wrong. Its policy.

The problem is that sometimes the police are wrong and since they can (in some states) just throw ppl into those places on a whim there should be some checks and balances.

SOB

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:28pm: I don't understand this thread. Why couldn't the guy the cops picked up calmly explain that he wasn't the person they were after? Surely he would have had some ID on him or was he some incoherent drunk they found in a park? I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up .... I'm sure if he was reasonable the cops would have tried to confirm his details before locking him in a psycho ward. Mind you, it's not always easy to tell the difference between a drug or alcohol induced rant and someone with a mental health problem trying to expalin something ...

Maybe but Light started this thread yet can't supply any simple details
& ignored my post.

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 12:36am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:23pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:06pm: so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ... _____________ you take ungranted liberties then answer with ignorance and confusion your own inane proposition.. this is a reflection of your consciousness.. this is not my burden that you should have the care to carry that which you do desire be at peace namaste -:) I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ... you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ...  i observe you being a scared little bunny i do not need to be so fearful as you i do not have the same sychophantic displays and longing for submission as you do i am not you and your worry of fear i am that i am in the light and not of your helplessness you may think you have to be this helpless relying on police to wipe your fearful bottom .....that is not me be at peace namaste

no not scared ... I just happen to live in a real world ... you ever watch the news?

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 12:39am:

I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up .... _________ here you go again not knowing facts make up stories and build a foundation upon ignorance this is your freewill to play in this wonderland of fear ignorance and illusion just because you are a scared rabbit...does not mean that other men are as limp wristed and helpless as you be at peace with this fact namaste -:)

I see you have trouble distiguishing between an opinion and making up facts  .... i did say "I'd say'... not 'they say' or 'it was because'

for such an enlightened being you haven''t a clue have you?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 4:14am:

You ppl have no idea about real-life do you. The police just automatically decided he was the guy and ignored his protests to the contrary. Prolly didnt even ask his name. They take him to hospital and hospital policy is believe the police even if you know its not true. Doublethink. Doesn't matter how much the guy protests theres no way anyone is going to believe him if the police said something different. He prolly was calmly telling them he wasnt who they said he was - @ least until they started drugging him. There was no way they were going to listen. I have worked in the field and i have seen this crap before. They always take the police word for it and never question even if they know the police are wrong. Its policy. The problem is that sometimes the police are wrong and since they can (in some states) just throw ppl into those places on a whim there should be some checks and balances. SOB

unfortunately, as usual , you are 100 % wrong ;) ;)

you are the one that has no idea how the real world operates.

in the army when someone dies, we dont have a witch hunt run by government fat cat lawyers and bureaucrats.
in the army we reward good behaviour with medals.

in hospitals and the police force which are areas where rapid decision making (usually on incomplete or incorrect information) is required, the situation is very similar to a field of battle.

cops, doctors are rapidly processing information and making decisions all day long. it is NOT the equivalent of a job packing cartons.
mistakes are inevitable, perfection is impossible.

this is very similar to the army.

to maintain morale and get the best out of people, they CANNOT be made to feel that someone is constantly monitoring them, waiting to pounce on every mistake or guess what , they shut down.

you see this already in health and the ploice.

people who move slowly, have lost their drive., would rather write parking tickets than attend a violent robbery.

the cops and dcotors who put themselves out there for the good of the community should be rewarded with a medal (a carrot), not an inquisition ( a stick)

the carrot is always a more effective motivator of good performance than a stick.

you dont understand people spot,  they arent like trekkies you know :D :D

Doesnt mean there should be no checks or balances @ all. What kind of weirdo are you?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Doesnt mean there should be no checks or balances @ all. What kind of weirdo are you? SOB

i find your criticism very reassuring that my position is probably correct :D :D

no not scared ... I just happen to live in a real world ... you ever watch the news?

___________

i do not care for your programmed fear response

and ViBrAtIoN..i do research all topics

without the spin you do project

does this comfort you knowing you are a scared bunny?

freewill

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 6:30pm:

no not scared ... I just happen to live in a real world ... you ever watch the news? ___________ i do not care for your programmed fear response and ViBrAtIoN..i do research all topics without the spin you do project does this comfort you knowing you are a scared bunny? freewill namaste -:)

What spin have I projected? I merely asked you if you watch the news !!!! Was that to difficult a question for you?

aquascoot wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 12:29pm: Doesnt mean there should be no checks or balances @ all. What kind of weirdo are you? SOB i find your criticism very reassuring that my position is probably correct :D :D

you and longy are minorities luckily

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 5:01am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 1:05pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 12:29pm: Doesnt mean there should be no checks or balances @ all. What kind of weirdo are you? SOB i find your criticism very reassuring that my position is probably correct :D :D you and longy are minorities luckily SOB

what you fail to realize borg, is that over the last 20 years there has been a massive increase in public servants employed in health, law and order and education.

one would think their role should be to assist the operational elements of these critical areas to deliver services.
what their role has increasingly becaome is to scrutinize, monitor and report on the actual people delivering the services.

as such they have, probably been a massively expensive failure.
sure you need some monitoring but 14,000 public servants just in the one building in the cbd of brisbane in the health dept to monitor and report on 1000 doctors.  and thats not including the massive numbers employed in the hospitals themselves who add yet another layer of micro management.

expensive, inefficient, counter productive, ;) ;) ;)

Thats BS. You know full well thats now how it is or was.

SOB

14,000 public servants just in the one building in the cbd of brisbane in the health dept to monitor and report on 1000 doctors.


Is that for realz?

head office of the qld health department in brisbane had it workforce reduced from 14,000 to 12,000  by campbell newman.

these people dont see many patients  :D :D :D

total number of doctors employed by qld health is just over 1000.

total number of doctors in the ACT stands at 840.
of these 450 are employed in public servant positions and do not see patients, this despite the ACT having a doctor shortage and importing doctors (stealing them) from south east asia on work permits which only allow them to work in public hospitals as public servants and make it a sackable offence to speak to the media.

PA hospital, royal brisbane hospital and mater hospiotal had overtime bans on all elective surgery for the moth of december to try and make budget.

8 of the 14 full time radiologists at RBH have resigned and gone private.

the fully functioning mater children and royal childrens hospital (both already refurbished and 2 of the largest paediatric hospitals in australia) are being joined into one mega paediatric hospital to be built (brand new0 at a cost of 2.5 billion as per anna bligh.

the health department payroll installed at an initial cost of 60 million dollars has now had over $1 billion (thats billion) spent on it to try and fix the glitches ) and is still not functional.
that is but one of the reasons for the mass resignations.

but fear not,  all those crap doctors and nurses just love morons like spot kicking the crap out of them for working in such a system :D :D :D :D

Health and Education is totally stuffed. Qld Health changed to District Health, which most people thought would be a better idea, smaller operations should be more cost effective and better managed. Not so, the waiting lists are getting longer.

aquascoot wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 8:32am:

head office of the qld health department in brisbane had it workforce reduced from 14,000 to 12,000  by campbell newman. these people dont see many patients  :D :D :D total number of doctors employed by qld health is just over 1000. total number of doctors in the ACT stands at 840. of these 450 are employed in public servant positions and do not see patients, this despite the ACT having a doctor shortage and importing doctors (stealing them) from south east asia on work permits which only allow them to work in public hospitals as public servants and make it a sackable offence to speak to the media. PA hospital, royal brisbane hospital and mater hospiotal had overtime bans on all elective surgery for the moth of december to try and make budget. 8 of the 14 full time radiologists at RBH have resigned and gone private. the fully functioning mater children and royal childrens hospital (both already refurbished and 2 of the largest paediatric hospitals in australia) are being joined into one mega paediatric hospital to be built (brand new0 at a cost of 2.5 billion as per anna bligh. the health department payroll installed at an initial cost of 60 million dollars has now had over $1 billion (thats billion) spent on it to try and fix the glitches ) and is still not functional. that is but one of the reasons for the mass resignations. but fear not,  all those crap doctors and nurses just love morons like spot kicking the crap out of them for working in such a system :D :D :D :D

Well someone has to do the research and paperwork. You dont know what those ppl did or do.

SOB

aquascoot wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 8:32am:

head office of the qld health department in brisbane had it workforce reduced from 14,000 to 12,000  by campbell newman. these people dont see many patients  :D :D :D total number of doctors employed by qld health is just over 1000. total number of doctors in the ACT stands at 840. of these 450 are employed in public servant positions and do not see patients, this despite the ACT having a doctor shortage and importing doctors (stealing them) from south east asia on work permits which only allow them to work in public hospitals as public servants and make it a sackable offence to speak to the media. PA hospital, royal brisbane hospital and mater hospiotal had overtime bans on all elective surgery for the moth of december to try and make budget. 8 of the 14 full time radiologists at RBH have resigned and gone private. the fully functioning mater children and royal childrens hospital (both already refurbished and 2 of the largest paediatric hospitals in australia) are being joined into one mega paediatric hospital to be built (brand new0 at a cost of 2.5 billion as per anna bligh. the health department payroll installed at an initial cost of 60 million dollars has now had over $1 billion (thats billion) spent on it to try and fix the glitches ) and is still not functional. that is but one of the reasons for the mass resignations. but fear not,  all those crap doctors and nurses just love morons like spot kicking the crap out of them for working in such a system :D :D :D :D

11-13,000 bureaucrats to look after 1,000 doctors. No wonder Qld is in debt.

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:30pm: no not scared ... I just happen to live in a real world ... you ever watch the news? ___________ i do not care for your programmed fear response and ViBrAtIoN..i do research all topics without the spin you do project does this comfort you knowing you are a scared bunny? freewill namaste -:) What spin have I projected? I merely asked you if you watch the news !!!! Was that to difficult a question for you?

_______________

"I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ...

you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ..."

this is where it starts from you

willing to give all your freedom

for a few liberties

you will lose both

this is your free will,not mine

does this comfort you?

so be it

namaste