1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames.

2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy.

Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

1. Are you of the thought that ALL conservatives have the same views on everything?  Perhaps the majority of Australians from all sides of politics have moved out of the 50s era and really don't care what happens in a homosexual bedroom, and believe there are some reasons abortion should go ahead, and believe in asylum seekers rights and the way Australia deals with them.  Mr Abbot may lead the Liberal Party - but his views and opinions are just that - His!  If he wishes to make his views and opinions party policy and insist that all Liberals abide by them I reckon he would lose out big time

2.  Piers and Bolt are also regulars on that show - hardly 'left leaning"     ::)

Vic wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? Piers and Bolt are also regulars on that show - hardly 'left leaning"     ::)

Bolt isn't any longer, he has his own show.

Piers is, but as I said, whenever he is on there, he's the only conservative. Same with Gerard Henderson and Niki Savva.

Q. Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?

A. They're not.

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

Nice Question: the answer is because the mining giants are!!

Yaaaaaaawn, another whiny little bitch thread. Just like the other several hundred this sock master has posted. God you're boring. ::)

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

I will have you know as a labor voter I do not approve of homosexual marriage one iota!

I am more than prepared to get very loud on this subject: louder infact than you have ever been!

The whole forum knows this... just ask them!

:o :o  :-?

Vic wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? 1. Are you of the thought that ALL conservatives have the same views on everything?  Perhaps the majority of Australians from all sides of politics have moved out of the 50s era and really don't care what happens in a homosexual bedroom, and believe there are some reasons abortion should go ahead, and believe in asylum seekers rights and the way Australia deals with them.  Mr Abbot may lead the Liberal Party - but his views and opinions are just that - His!  If he wishes to make his views and opinions party policy and insist that all Liberals abide by them I reckon he would lose out big time 2.  Piers and Bolt are also regulars on that show - hardly 'left leaning"     ::)

this bloke apparently does medicine!!

:-? :-?

skippy. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

Yaaaaaaawn, another whiny little bitch thread. Just like the other several hundred this sock master has posted. God you're boring. ::)

-->>he has a job to do: play his part in the chewing up of the worlds entire internet address space!

Its called perpetual growth and is practised by the infamous space cadets from planet accountant!

RESTRICTION IS THE ULTIMATE LAW OF CHESS DON'T YA KNOW!! IT'S ALL LEARNED BEHAVIOUR OF COURSE....

HEY, IN OTHER NEWS: DID YA HEAR CHINA IS ROLLING OUT FIBRE TO THE HOME AS PART OF THE PLAN FOR IT'S FUTURE??

  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Kat wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:22pm:

Q. Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased? A. They're not.

How not?  :-?

Looks very much like on Q&A the facts do not support the claim?

Panellists:
Penny Wong, Finance Minister; Labor
Barnaby Joyce, Queensland Nationals Senator; LibJonathan Biggins, Playwright and Satirist;
Stella Young, Comedienne and disability activist;
Janet Albrechtsen, Columnist for The Australian More Conservative


Judith Sloan, Economist and businesswoman;
Kevin Rudd, Former Prime Minister;
Malcolm Turnbull, Shadow Communications Minister;
Heather Ridout, Reserve Bank of Australia board member.


Colin Barnett, WA Premier;
Bob Brown, Former Leader of the Greens;
Alannah MacTiernan, Former Labor Minister;
Hannah McGlade, Indigenous human rights lawyer
Bob Cronin, Editor in Chief, The West Australian.

The ABC is biased towards the lefty viewpoint.

It is basically a bunch of public servants.

Say no more.... :D

Swagman wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

The ABC is biased towards the lefty viewpoint. It is basically a bunch of public servants. Say no more....

With John Howard in power for over a decade he appointed most of the people who control the broadcaster and dictate policy and direction.

As the list of Q&A guests clearly show the unbiased facts but just stick to your bias and dogma driven expectations don't worry about the facts.

skippy. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

Yaaaaaaawn, another whiny little bitch thread. Just like the other several hundred this sock master has posted. God you're boring. ::)

Hey Matty, under proposed legislation by Gillard you can charge Skippy with "offending" you.

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. maybe because these are extreme right views only some in the community support and the points raised in support of them are very very stupid? 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. perhaps because all the extreme right wing nutters are boring and useless? Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

;) I cant believe I pay for that shi. I will be invesigating and get my mojo onto it. If this is true, ABC should be ashamed of itself.

The hosts regularly update viewers and explain how Tony Abbott and some members of the Coalition will not appear on either show.....Make of it what ever you will???

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

The hosts regularly update viewers and explain how Tony Abbott and some members of the Coalition will not appear on either show.....Make of it what ever you will??? ::) ::) ::)

Yeh, biased bastards on my dime at ABC

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 9:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 9:14pm: The hosts regularly update viewers and explain how Tony Abbott and some members of the Coalition will not appear on either show.....Make of it what ever you will??? ::) ::) ::) Yeh, biased bastards on my dime at ABC

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  Please provide bank details, I'll be happy to return your 15c to you. :)

Swagman wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

The ABC is biased towards the lefty viewpoint. It is basically a bunch of public servants. Say no more.... :D

There is no "lefty" viewpoint anymore. Not in the media or the government. You only said that to troll.

SOB

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

As on a race course, weaker runners have to get help by handicapping the better contenders.

Isn't this the raw truth about leftard's inferiority?'

The fact that they have ruined the country's economy, goodwill, ambition, is of little matter, what?

olde.sault wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? As on a race course, weaker runners have to get help by handicapping the better contenders. Isn't this the raw truth about leftard's inferiority?' The fact that they have ruined the country's economy, goodwill, ambition, is of little matter, what?

Isn't this the raw truth about leftard's inferiority?'

NO.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

Looks very much like on Q&A the facts do not support the claim? Panellists: Penny Wong, Finance Minister; Labor Barnaby Joyce, Queensland Nationals Senator; LibJonathan Biggins, Playwright and Satirist; Stella Young, Comedienne and disability activist; Janet Albrechtsen, Columnist for The Australian More Conservative Judith Sloan, Economist and businesswoman; Kevin Rudd, Former Prime Minister; Malcolm Turnbull, Shadow Communications Minister; Heather Ridout, Reserve Bank of Australia board member. Colin Barnett, WA Premier; Bob Brown, Former Leader of the Greens; Alannah MacTiernan, Former Labor Minister; Hannah McGlade, Indigenous human rights lawyer Bob Cronin, Editor in Chief, The West Australian.

The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true.

I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie.

Also, sometimes lefty panelists are downright rude to conservative ones, and Tony Jones does nothing to stop it.

Nothing more needs to be said about the Insiders. Watch 10 minutes of it and you'll see how biased it is. The way that the two lefty journalists treated the conservative in this year's last episode was appalling. No wonder that many Coalition MPs are reluctant to go on there.

One thing I've learnt about the television and the media is that it  isn't reality. One of the things that they are trying to do is make it reality. The left in the media (which is most of them) talk as though gay marriage and loving refugees is what most people believe. IT'S NOT!! The lefties can't deal with reality and they hate it. Anybody who gets on one of their little BS shows and offers up some reality is shouted down. I don't know why people bother. The polling booth is where reality really gets shown.

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true.

So now you are back peddling.

The problem is that most of the far right philosophies such as yours matty don't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Thats why you will only hear them on anonymous internet forums like this one.

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 7:20pm: Looks very much like on Q&A the facts do not support the claim? Panellists: Penny Wong, Finance Minister; Labor Barnaby Joyce, Queensland Nationals Senator; LibJonathan Biggins, Playwright and Satirist; Stella Young, Comedienne and disability activist; Janet Albrechtsen, Columnist for The Australian More Conservative Judith Sloan, Economist and businesswoman; Kevin Rudd, Former Prime Minister; Malcolm Turnbull, Shadow Communications Minister; Heather Ridout, Reserve Bank of Australia board member. Colin Barnett, WA Premier; Bob Brown, Former Leader of the Greens; Alannah MacTiernan, Former Labor Minister; Hannah McGlade, Indigenous human rights lawyer Bob Cronin, Editor in Chief, The West Australian. The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie. Also, sometimes lefty panelists are downright rude to conservative ones, and Tony Jones does nothing to stop it. Nothing more needs to be said about the Insiders. Watch 10 minutes of it and you'll see how biased it is. The way that the two lefty journalists treated the conservative in this year's last episode was appalling. No wonder that many Coalition MPs are reluctant to go on there.

Quote:

but the audience isn't......I went once

They let you in, showing their bias a bit there?

We have got to the point now where the audience who go to watch the show are biased?

Maybe with the opposition being against everything it is difficult to find support for that position when the topic is discussed.

You should start a Balmy Army group and take up a section of the audience.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. So now you are back peddling. The problem is that most of the far right philosophies such as yours matty don't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Thats why you will only hear them on anonymous internet forums like this one.

No, I am not, I meant the audience from the outset, although the panels can sometimes be too skewed to the left.

How am I far right?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:31pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: Dnarever wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 7:20pm: Looks very much like on Q&A the facts do not support the claim? Panellists: Penny Wong, Finance Minister; Labor Barnaby Joyce, Queensland Nationals Senator; LibJonathan Biggins, Playwright and Satirist; Stella Young, Comedienne and disability activist; Janet Albrechtsen, Columnist for The Australian More Conservative Judith Sloan, Economist and businesswoman; Kevin Rudd, Former Prime Minister; Malcolm Turnbull, Shadow Communications Minister; Heather Ridout, Reserve Bank of Australia board member. Colin Barnett, WA Premier; Bob Brown, Former Leader of the Greens; Alannah MacTiernan, Former Labor Minister; Hannah McGlade, Indigenous human rights lawyer Bob Cronin, Editor in Chief, The West Australian. The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie. Also, sometimes lefty panelists are downright rude to conservative ones, and Tony Jones does nothing to stop it. Nothing more needs to be said about the Insiders. Watch 10 minutes of it and you'll see how biased it is. The way that the two lefty journalists treated the conservative in this year's last episode was appalling. No wonder that many Coalition MPs are reluctant to go on there. Quote: but the audience isn't......I went once They let you in, showing their bias a bit there? We have got to the point now where the audience who go to watch the show are biased? Maybe with the opposition being against everything it is difficult to find support for that position when the topic is discussed. You should start a Balmy Army group and take up a section of the audience.

My point is that the figures that they put up at the start of the show seem very wrong.

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. .

The numbers would be based on the questionnaire you answer when applying for a ticket. Maybe some people are not fully honest.

I only went once - had to give a poncy conservative a mouth full on the way out.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:40pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. . The numbers would be based on the questionnaire you answer when applying for a ticket. Maybe some people are not fully honest. I only went once - had to give a poncy conservative a mouth full on the way out.

Why, because s/he disagreed with you?

Tony Abbott should go on Q&A and do a one on one like Julia did...come on Tony..you can tell us all how terrific you think you are  ;D

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 2:40pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. . The numbers would be based on the questionnaire you answer when applying for a ticket. Maybe some people are not fully honest. I only went once - had to give a poncy conservative a mouth full on the way out. Why, because s/he disagreed with you?

I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie

It was you - ?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 8:28pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:29pm: Yaaaaaaawn, another whiny little bitch thread. Just like the other several hundred this sock master has posted. God you're boring. ::) Hey Matty, under proposed legislation by Gillard you can charge Skippy with "offending" you.

Now the morning piss troll chimes in. ::)

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 8:28pm: skippy. wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:29pm: Yaaaaaaawn, another whiny little bitch thread. Just like the other several hundred this sock master has posted. God you're boring. ::) Hey Matty, under proposed legislation by Gillard you can charge Skippy with "offending" you. Now the morning piss troll chimes in. ::)

I doubt that Matty would be allowed in court until he grows into his long pants  :D

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:24pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 2:40pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. . The numbers would be based on the questionnaire you answer when applying for a ticket. Maybe some people are not fully honest. I only went once - had to give a poncy conservative a mouth full on the way out. Why, because s/he disagreed with you? I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie It was you - ?

Did you harass them simply for having a contrary view? If so, it may be.  :o

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:24pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 2:40pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. . The numbers would be based on the questionnaire you answer when applying for a ticket. Maybe some people are not fully honest. I only went once - had to give a poncy conservative a mouth full on the way out. Why, because s/he disagreed with you? I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie It was you - ? Did you harass them simply for having a contrary view? If so, it may be.

I was joking - I don't harass anyone ever.

Wayne Swan, worst Treasurer in history.

You wern't around when Howard was treasurer, his actions put us into recession and he even denied that we were.  In my life time Howard was clearly and by a large margin the worst treasurer.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 4:03pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:31pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:24pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 2:40pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. . The numbers would be based on the questionnaire you answer when applying for a ticket. Maybe some people are not fully honest. I only went once - had to give a poncy conservative a mouth full on the way out. Why, because s/he disagreed with you? I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie It was you - ? Did you harass them simply for having a contrary view? If so, it may be.  I was joking - I don't harass anyone ever. Wayne Swan, worst Treasurer in history. You wern't around when Howard was treasurer, his actions put us into recession and he even denied that we were.  In my life time Howard was clearly and by a large margin the worst treasurer.

Well I was harassed afterwards by a young leftie, simply for being conservative. I gave him as good as he gave me, though.

As for Howard, I am sure that you have no bias on the matter. Hard for me to comment on events before I was born, but did he turn a $22 billion surplus into a $44 billion deficit, with wasteful and reckless spending on failed schemes like the fatal home insulation, overpriced school halls and letting in boatloads of illegals?

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

Well I was harassed afterwards by a young leftie, simply for being conservative. I gave him as good as he gave me, though. As for Howard, I am sure that you have no bias on the matter. Hard for me to comment on events before I was born, but did he turn a $22 billion surplus into a $44 billion deficit, with wasteful and reckless spending on failed schemes like the fatal home insulation, overpriced school halls and letting in boatloads of illegals?

Howard left a 10 Billion deficit when that was a lot more than 44 billion is today.

home insulation

It wasn't a failure in terms of cost or effect,  more than a million homes are insulated.

overpriced school halls

About 98% were found to have been good value.

letting in boatloads of illegals?

Abbott spent most of the term making sure they kept comming as well - but thats OK.

Vic wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? 1. Are you of the thought that ALL conservatives have the same views on everything?  Perhaps the majority of Australians from all sides of politics have moved out of the 50s era and really don't care what happens in a homosexual bedroom, and believe there are some reasons abortion should go ahead, and believe in asylum seekers rights and the way Australia deals with them.  Mr Abbot may lead the Liberal Party - but his views and opinions are just that - His!  If he wishes to make his views and opinions party policy and insist that all Liberals abide by them I reckon he would lose out big time 2.  Piers and Bolt are also regulars on that show - hardly 'left leaning"     ::)

lololol ummm so since Piers and Bolt have regularly appeared on this "program" it couldnt possibly be biased??

It is no wonder labor keeps getting voted back in with the mentality like this.

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

Tony Abbott should go on Q&A and do a one on one like Julia did...come on Tony..you can tell us all how terrific you think you are  ;D

But he wouldn't - he would go on and on and on and on about how bad gillard is

SOB

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

In my humble view,the insiders and Q&A panels may appear lefties, but in truth are pretty conservative; I sent numerous questions on financial matters; neither would air them, because the boss of the ABC is probably paid $500,000 plus and is trying to protect the priviledged status of the highly paid public servants.

hawil wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? In my humble view,the insiders and Q&A panels may appear lefties, but in truth are pretty conservative; I sent numerous questions on financial matters; neither would air them, because the boss of the ABC is probably paid $500,000 plus and is trying to protect the priviledged status of the highly paid public servants.

The above= SOMEONE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD (or a labor/green voter)

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 8:28pm: skippy. wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:29pm: Yaaaaaaawn, another whiny little bitch thread. Just like the other several hundred this sock master has posted. God you're boring. ::) Hey Matty, under proposed legislation by Gillard you can charge Skippy with "offending" you. Now the morning piss troll chimes in. ::)

I am "offended" and I hope Nicola Roxon charges you with discrimination.  ;D

People like Matty and Swagman constantly mouth the cliche that the ABC is politically biased. I have yet to see any of them produce one piece of concrete evidence, I doubt they ever will.

The figures at the start of Q and A will only be inaccurate if people lie about their political persuasions.

It doesn't matter whether a news outlet is state-owned or private, we are entitled to expect fair and balanced news coverage. Tha ABC gets closer to producing that than any other news source in the land.

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 11:59am: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. So now you are back peddling. The problem is that most of the far right philosophies such as yours matty don't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Thats why you will only hear them on anonymous internet forums like this one. No, I am not, I meant the audience from the outset, although the panels can sometimes be too skewed to the left. How am I far right?

Don’t pay any attention to them, Matty. He has to show proof to back up his claim or it doesn’t count.

Besides, you’ve proved that you were once a member of the Greens, so the claim doesn’t match reality.

You’re a progressive centrist. Like Mr Abbott.

Thoughts?

Merlin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

hawil wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:05pm: matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? In my humble view,the insiders and Q&A panels may appear lefties, but in truth are pretty conservative; I sent numerous questions on financial matters; neither would air them, because the boss of the ABC is probably paid $500,000 plus and is trying to protect the priviledged status of the highly paid public servants. The above= SOMEONE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD (or a labor/green voter)

I can't make any sense of your comment.
I don't like any of the politicians, but the only choice I have is to vote informal.

hawil wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 11:20am:

Merlin wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:09pm: hawil wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:05pm: matty wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 6:03pm: 1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames. 2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy. Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance? In my humble view,the insiders and Q&A panels may appear lefties, but in truth are pretty conservative; I sent numerous questions on financial matters; neither would air them, because the boss of the ABC is probably paid $500,000 plus and is trying to protect the priviledged status of the highly paid public servants. The above= SOMEONE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD (or a labor/green voter) I can't make any sense of your comment. I don't like any of the politicians, but the only choice I have is to vote informal.

I agree, with your thoughts on not liking any of the Pollies, BUT instead of voting informal, YOU could vote against the incumbent, whether that be Labor or Liberal AND IF that unseated enough incumbents at the next election, it MAY make the new incumbents a little more uneasy and PERHAPS they may pay a little more attention, TO OUR BEST LONG TERM INTERESTS, thinking then that it may co-incide more with their short term interests?

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:45pm:

People like Matty and Swagman constantly mouth the cliche that the ABC is politically biased. I have yet to see any of them produce one piece of concrete evidence, I doubt they ever will. The figures at the start of Q and A will only be inaccurate if people lie about their political persuasions. It doesn't matter whether a news outlet is state-owned or private, we are entitled to expect fair and balanced news coverage. Tha ABC gets closer to producing that than any other news source in the land.

People find "bias", because other people espouse views, which may disagree with their own pre-disposed views on "anything", irrespective of whether the views of those other people may be factually correct or not!

Big Dave wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

One thing I've learnt about the television and the media is that it  isn't reality. One of the things that they are trying to do is make it reality. The left in the media (which is most of them) talk as though gay marriage and loving refugees is what most people believe. IT'S NOT!! The lefties can't deal with reality and they hate it. Anybody who gets on one of their little BS shows and offers up some reality is shouted down. I don't know why people bother. The polling booth is where reality really gets shown.

Most Labor voters don't want gay marriage! That's why Julia Gillard knows she is on a winner!!

Big Dave wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

One thing I've learnt about the television and the media is that it  isn't reality. One of the things that they are trying to do is make it reality. The left in the media (which is most of them) talk as though gay marriage and loving refugees is what most people believe. IT'S NOT!! The lefties can't deal with reality and they hate it. Anybody who gets on one of their little BS shows and offers up some reality is shouted down. I don't know why people bother. The polling booth is where reality really gets shown.

Lol---> the polling booth is 'where groupthink' gets shown!!!

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. So now you are back peddling. The problem is that most of the far right philosophies such as yours matty don't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Thats why you will only hear them on anonymous internet forums like this one.

Propaganda- in this case the propaganda of the never ending value of THE INVESTMENT TAP as told by all liberal voting silver spooners- can't stand up to scrutiny. Lucky it follows the rules of a connectionless protocol and doesn't require feedback!

  :o  ::)  ;) ;) ;) ;)  :D

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 2:31pm: matty wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:12am: Dnarever wrote on Dec 28th, 2012 at 7:20pm: Looks very much like on Q&A the facts do not support the claim? Panellists: Penny Wong, Finance Minister; Labor Barnaby Joyce, Queensland Nationals Senator; LibJonathan Biggins, Playwright and Satirist; Stella Young, Comedienne and disability activist; Janet Albrechtsen, Columnist for The Australian More Conservative Judith Sloan, Economist and businesswoman; Kevin Rudd, Former Prime Minister; Malcolm Turnbull, Shadow Communications Minister; Heather Ridout, Reserve Bank of Australia board member. Colin Barnett, WA Premier; Bob Brown, Former Leader of the Greens; Alannah MacTiernan, Former Labor Minister; Hannah McGlade, Indigenous human rights lawyer Bob Cronin, Editor in Chief, The West Australian. The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true. I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie. Also, sometimes lefty panelists are downright rude to conservative ones, and Tony Jones does nothing to stop it. Nothing more needs to be said about the Insiders. Watch 10 minutes of it and you'll see how biased it is. The way that the two lefty journalists treated the conservative in this year's last episode was appalling. No wonder that many Coalition MPs are reluctant to go on there. Quote: but the audience isn't......I went once They let you in, showing their bias a bit there? We have got to the point now where the audience who go to watch the show are biased? Maybe with the opposition being against everything it is difficult to find support for that position when the topic is discussed. You should start a Balmy Army group and take up a section of the audience. My point is that the figures that they put up at the start of the show seem very wrong.

and you base that on what exactly?  ..ohh, I know ... you went there once .... I'm sure you polled everyone on their voting preferences before you entered.

QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start.

Its funding should be pulled.

Quote:

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/abc-presenter-leigh-sales-cleared-of-bias-in-tony-abbott-interview/story-e6frfmyi-1226541312678 ABC presenter Leigh Sales cleared of bias in Tony Abbott interview THE ABC has been cleared of accusations of bias over one of television presenter Leigh Sales' interviews with Opposition Leader Tony Abbott. In a decision published today, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found the broadcaster did not breach its own impartiality code during the 7.30 program on August 22. Leigh Sales' questions led the opposition leader to the embarrassing admission he hadn't read statements by BHP Billiton on why it suspended its Olympic Dam project, after he had blamed the carbon tax for the stoppage. The interview caused a stir on Twitter and Mr Abbott was forced to defend himself in parliament the following day. ACMA received two letters complaining of bias by Ms Sales. One said her treatment of Mr Abbott was "very bad'' and "she made it very obvious that she does not like him and is a Gillard supporter''. The other said Ms Sales' "left-wing views'' showed through in her interviews. In a response to the ACMA, the ABC said Ms Sales had used a "devil's advocate'' style of interviewing. "We do not believe that posing testing questions to an interviewee and then allowing them to respond to those questions is biased or bad mannered,'' the ABC wrote. "It is in fact a recognised standard of objective journalism.'' In its decision, the ACMA said Ms Sales used a "robust'' questioning style but Mr Abbott had been given a fair chance to respond. The presenter "demonstrated an element of scepticism'' but the questions were reasonable given Mr Abbott's own statements, the authority said. "The ACMA does not consider that the presenter conveyed a pre-judgment about Mr Abbott ... rather, she presented to Mr Abbott material suggesting what appeared to be differences between current events and his public statements and asked him to respond, thereby permitting viewers to evaluate the issues raised.''

Abbott's only problem was he could not run away like he normally does when he has no idea.....The only bias is from those who claim Tony Abbott is not a flake!!!


:) :) :)

You didnt read the thread did you. Its not as biased and you are making out and its not biased to the left.

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:17pm:

QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled.

"PLOOOOOOISE, SPANK ME HARDER!!

OH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!"

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:17pm:

QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled.

feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ...

the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased.

I haven't missed many episodes of Q & A and as far as I can remember not one episode had more ALP voters than libs.  ...in fact, more often than not, the liberal voters outnumbered the labor voters

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:17pm: QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled. feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ... the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased.

When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:32pm:

You didnt read the thread did you. Its not as biased and you are making out and its not biased to the left. SOB

You just got offended and had to lash out.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/past-programs-by-date.htm

I posted the Panellist lists showing there was no bias there, then we heard thaat the audience was biased?

Now it seems that its the topics.

The Link shows the topic lists, sorry but no bias there either.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:32pm: You didnt read the thread did you. Its not as biased and you are making out and its not biased to the left. SOB You just got offended and had to lash out.

Hahahaha you have no argument so you try that lame tactic? Looks like its you who is lashing out.

SOB

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 7:32pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/past-programs-by-date.htm I posted the Panellist lists showing there was no bias there, then we heard thaat the audience was biased? Now it seems that its the topics. The Link shows the topic lists, sorry but no bias there either.

If you can't see the bias then it's set in deeper than thought.
More reason why its funding ought to be pulled.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 5:28am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 3:17pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:32pm: You didnt read the thread did you. Its not as biased and you are making out and its not biased to the left. SOB You just got offended and had to lash out. Hahahaha you have no argument so you try that lame tactic? Looks like its you who is lashing out. SOB

You just got offended and had to lash out.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:17pm: QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled. feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ... the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased. When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased.

like I said, feel free to go and ask whatever question you like ... that's the beauty of it .. the public asks the questions .. obviously others don't care about the issues you mentioned (or not enough to go onto Q & A and raise the issue) ... instead of accusing the ABC of being biased, why don't you go to a show and raise them yourself? You don't even have to get of your backside ... you can send a question via the internet, all you need is a webcam . I think they even accept questions via twitter ... while your at it maybe you can raise the issue of the ABC being biased, see how they respond. The fact that people don't ask what you want asked is not a reflection on the show.

If we did not have the ABC we would be left with no credible news channel what so ever.....We have already lost the commercial media to vested interests…..Could you imagine an Australia with only News Ltd and a Singleton / Rinehart Fairfax media empire to present us with our news…..The public interest will always be served by having a public broadcaster that is adequately funded and scrutinised by an independent 3rd party…..The ABC provides a service commercial stations do not provide especially for young children…..Having diversity in the media can only be a good thing!!!

:) :) :)

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:57am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 3:07pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:17pm: QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled. feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ... the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased. When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased. like I said, feel free to go and ask whatever question you like ... that's the beauty of it .. the public asks the questions .. obviously others don't care about the issues you mentioned (or not enough to go onto Q & A and raise the issue) ... instead of accusing the ABC of being biased, why don't you go to a show and raise them yourself? You don't even have to get of your backside ... you can send a question via the internet, all you need is a webcam . I think they even accept questions via twitter ... while your at it maybe you can raise the issue of the ABC being biased, see how they respond. The fact that people don't ask what you want asked is not a reflection on the show.

You seem to think I haven't posted questions on their website. Also, you seem to claim that it is as easy as posting a question and it will be presented. All questions are analysed and moderated according to the agenda of the QandA organisers. If they hit on topics too far from their trendy agenda, then they're ignored.

You can't tell me that gay marriage is the number one topic Australians talk about, or even a topic in their top 5. Workers at lunch time don't sit around talking up the positivity of gay marriage. Most people don't give a sh*t about it.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 1:09pm:

If we did not have the ABC we would be left with no credible news channel what so ever.....We have already lost the commercial media to vested interests…..Could you imagine an Australia with only News Ltd and a Singleton / Rinehart Fairfax media empire to present us with our news…..The public interest will always be served by having a public broadcaster that is adequately funded and scrutinised by an independent 3rd party…..The ABC provides a service commercial stations do not provide especially for young children…..Having diversity in the media can only be a good thing!!! :) :) :)

This old hat: The media moguls are blinding every one to the brilliance of the ABC!

The very fact that Murdoch's media is economically successful is because people buy it. This means that it must have content that appeals to many people. If trendy left wing agendas were so popular then they wouldn't need to be propped up artificially by millions of tax-payer's dollars.

i don't know if it's necessarily biased towards liberals or labour supporters given that the program allegedly attempt to mirror the electorate in the audience and generally have a mixture of panelists on each episode, but it most definitely chooses to focus on some issues and some not at all. immigration is never ever discussed on the show except in the form of the 'boat people' - i suppose one could say that q&a is biased by choosing to omit the discussion of certain issues altogether.

JC Denton wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 2:05pm:

i don't know if it's necessarily biased towards liberals or labour supporters given that the program allegedly attempt to mirror the electorate in the audience and generally have a mixture of panelists on each episode, but it most definitely chooses to focus on some issues and some not at all. immigration is never ever discussed on the show except in the form of the 'boat people' - i suppose one could say that q&a is biased by choosing to omit the discussion of certain issues altogether.

Or maybe immigration isnt an issue - they discuss things that are currently in the news.

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 1:56pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:09pm: If we did not have the ABC we would be left with no credible news channel what so ever.....We have already lost the commercial media to vested interests…..Could you imagine an Australia with only News Ltd and a Singleton / Rinehart Fairfax media empire to present us with our news…..The public interest will always be served by having a public broadcaster that is adequately funded and scrutinised by an independent 3rd party…..The ABC provides a service commercial stations do not provide especially for young children…..Having diversity in the media can only be a good thing!!! :) :) :) This old hat: The media moguls are blinding every one to the brilliance of the ABC! The very fact that Murdoch's media is economically successful is because people buy it. This means that it must have content that appeals to many people. If trendy left wing agendas were so popular then they wouldn't need to be propped up artificially by millions of tax-payer's dollars.

What a stupid comment.....The ABC does not advertise so it must be funded by taxpayers.....The ABC was the only television we could get when I was living in the NW and it provides a very valuable service to remote people.....Worrying about a few shows that may have perceived political bias is typical of the rabid right.....It is not all about you is it???


>:( >:( >:(

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 1:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:57am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 3:07pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:17pm: QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled. feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ... the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased. When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased. like I said, feel free to go and ask whatever question you like ... that's the beauty of it .. the public asks the questions .. obviously others don't care about the issues you mentioned (or not enough to go onto Q & A and raise the issue) ... instead of accusing the ABC of being biased, why don't you go to a show and raise them yourself? You don't even have to get of your backside ... you can send a question via the internet, all you need is a webcam . I think they even accept questions via twitter ... while your at it maybe you can raise the issue of the ABC being biased, see how they respond. The fact that people don't ask what you want asked is not a reflection on the show. You seem to think I haven't posted questions on their website. Also, you seem to claim that it is as easy as posting a question and it will be presented. All questions are analysed and moderated according to the agenda of the QandA organisers. If they hit on topics too far from their trendy agenda, then they're ignored. You can't tell me that gay marriage is the number one topic Australians talk about, or even a topic in their top 5. Workers at lunch time don't sit around talking up the positivity of gay marriage. Most people don't give a sh*t about it.

ahhh, so you are upset they didn't ask your question? why wouldn't they? how could anything be more important than what misty wants to ask?

they get hundreds of questions and they cannot ask them all. They are a TV show and as such they react to the viewing audience . Obviously gay marriage and boat people bring in the punters. The fact they don't ask your question does not mean they are biased, it means they are trying to attract a wider viewing audience than one.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 7:31am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:56pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:09pm: If we did not have the ABC we would be left with no credible news channel what so ever.....We have already lost the commercial media to vested interests…..Could you imagine an Australia with only News Ltd and a Singleton / Rinehart Fairfax media empire to present us with our news…..The public interest will always be served by having a public broadcaster that is adequately funded and scrutinised by an independent 3rd party…..The ABC provides a service commercial stations do not provide especially for young children…..Having diversity in the media can only be a good thing!!! :) :) :) This old hat: The media moguls are blinding every one to the brilliance of the ABC! The very fact that Murdoch's media is economically successful is because people buy it. This means that it must have content that appeals to many people. If trendy left wing agendas were so popular then they wouldn't need to be propped up artificially by millions of tax-payer's dollars. What a stupid comment.....The ABC does not advertise so it must be funded by taxpayers.....The ABC was the only television we could get when I was living in the NW and it provides a very valuable service to remote people.....Worrying about a few shows that may have perceived political bias is typical of the rabid right.....It is not all about you is it??? >:( >:( >:(

Douche, I never claimed the ABC in its entirety ought to be stripped of funding, only shows like QandA that have an obvious agenda. 

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 8:45am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:51pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:57am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 3:07pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:17pm: QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled. feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ... the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased. When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased. like I said, feel free to go and ask whatever question you like ... that's the beauty of it .. the public asks the questions .. obviously others don't care about the issues you mentioned (or not enough to go onto Q & A and raise the issue) ... instead of accusing the ABC of being biased, why don't you go to a show and raise them yourself? You don't even have to get of your backside ... you can send a question via the internet, all you need is a webcam . I think they even accept questions via twitter ... while your at it maybe you can raise the issue of the ABC being biased, see how they respond. The fact that people don't ask what you want asked is not a reflection on the show. You seem to think I haven't posted questions on their website. Also, you seem to claim that it is as easy as posting a question and it will be presented. All questions are analysed and moderated according to the agenda of the QandA organisers. If they hit on topics too far from their trendy agenda, then they're ignored. You can't tell me that gay marriage is the number one topic Australians talk about, or even a topic in their top 5. Workers at lunch time don't sit around talking up the positivity of gay marriage. Most people don't give a sh*t about it. ahhh, so you are upset they didn't ask your question? why wouldn't they? how could anything be more important than what misty wants to ask? they get hundreds of questions and they cannot ask them all. They are a TV show and as such they react to the viewing audience . Obviously gay marriage and boat people bring in the punters. The fact they don't ask your question does not mean they are biased, it means they are trying to attract a wider viewing audience than one.

Okay, yep, it's only me in Australia who wants questions asked on immigration and lowering unemployment.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 8:45am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:51pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:57am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 3:07pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:56pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 2:17pm: QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled. feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ... the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased. When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased. like I said, feel free to go and ask whatever question you like ... that's the beauty of it .. the public asks the questions .. obviously others don't care about the issues you mentioned (or not enough to go onto Q & A and raise the issue) ... instead of accusing the ABC of being biased, why don't you go to a show and raise them yourself? You don't even have to get of your backside ... you can send a question via the internet, all you need is a webcam . I think they even accept questions via twitter ... while your at it maybe you can raise the issue of the ABC being biased, see how they respond. The fact that people don't ask what you want asked is not a reflection on the show. You seem to think I haven't posted questions on their website. Also, you seem to claim that it is as easy as posting a question and it will be presented. All questions are analysed and moderated according to the agenda of the QandA organisers. If they hit on topics too far from their trendy agenda, then they're ignored. You can't tell me that gay marriage is the number one topic Australians talk about, or even a topic in their top 5. Workers at lunch time don't sit around talking up the positivity of gay marriage. Most people don't give a sh*t about it. ahhh, so you are upset they didn't ask your question? why wouldn't they? how could anything be more important than what misty wants to ask? they get hundreds of questions and they cannot ask them all. They are a TV show and as such they react to the viewing audience . Obviously gay marriage and boat people bring in the punters. The fact they don't ask your question does not mean they are biased, it means they are trying to attract a wider viewing audience than one. Okay, yep, it's only me in Australia who wants questions asked on immigration and lowering unemployment.

probably not ... but right now the hot issues are gay marriage and asylum seekers ... when immigration becomes the hot ticket, those who still have questions on gay marriage can then post that the ABC is biased because it won't air their questions ....

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:31pm:

Douche, I never claimed the ABC in its entirety ought to be stripped of funding, only shows like QandA that have an obvious agenda.

So obvious that all the complaints have failed the test:

We started with the biased panel claim - posting a few panels shows that incorrect.

Then we had the claim that the audience was the problem? The people watching the show? WHAT!

Followed by the program topics: again not supported by the list of topics discussed.

Now we have its the topics not discussed???????  WOW now I am disgusted – shut down the ABC immediately.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:31pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:31am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:56pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:09pm: If we did not have the ABC we would be left with no credible news channel what so ever.....We have already lost the commercial media to vested interests…..Could you imagine an Australia with only News Ltd and a Singleton / Rinehart Fairfax media empire to present us with our news…..The public interest will always be served by having a public broadcaster that is adequately funded and scrutinised by an independent 3rd party…..The ABC provides a service commercial stations do not provide especially for young children…..Having diversity in the media can only be a good thing!!! :) :) :) This old hat: The media moguls are blinding every one to the brilliance of the ABC! The very fact that Murdoch's media is economically successful is because people buy it. This means that it must have content that appeals to many people. If trendy left wing agendas were so popular then they wouldn't need to be propped up artificially by millions of tax-payer's dollars. What a stupid comment.....The ABC does not advertise so it must be funded by taxpayers.....The ABC was the only television we could get when I was living in the NW and it provides a very valuable service to remote people.....Worrying about a few shows that may have perceived political bias is typical of the rabid right.....It is not all about you is it??? >:( >:( >:( Douche, I never claimed the ABC in its entirety ought to be stripped of funding, only shows like QandA that have an obvious agenda.

Yet you would consider the Bolt report to be a fairly balanced program.....Having no alternative views is not in the best interests on the nation.....Australia needs a diverse media or it will risk going the way of America where Fox News distorts the truth and peddles bullshit to the masses....Having all the media owned by wankers like Murdoch is not good for anyone and would destroy our democracy!!!

::) ::) ::)

Bolt isn't balanced, and he doesn't pretend to be. Most importantly, he's not on the public teat.
Murdoch's "empire" only exists because people freely purchase his goods. No one forces people to buy his stuff, yet they still do. He obviously, then, provides a service good enough that people are willing to pay for it.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Bolt isn't balanced, and he doesn't pretend to be. Most importantly, he's not on the public teat. Murdoch's "empire" only exists because people freely purchase his goods. No one forces people to buy his stuff, yet they still do. He obviously, then, provides a service good enough that people are willing to pay for it.

then, provides a service good enough that people are willing to pay for it.

He strongly pushes the owners political view and beliefs into the community, sometimes it isn't about direct profit.

If people are gullible enough to believe it, then all the more power to him.
The onus is on the consumer to resist it.
A bit of critical thinking and self-discipline doesn't hurt.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Bolt isn't balanced, and he doesn't pretend to be. Most importantly, he's not on the public teat. Murdoch's "empire" only exists because people freely purchase his goods. No one forces people to buy his stuff, yet they still do. He obviously, then, provides a service good enough that people are willing to pay for it.

So it's okay to be lazy, untruthful, unbalanced and biased so long as you don't work for the state.

In Queensland there is no choice. It's Murdoch scandal sheets or nothing.

If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:57pm:

If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it.

Only on channel 10..the commercial station that rates less than the ABC  :D

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:57pm:

If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it.

90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish.

The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:47pm:

If people are gullible enough to believe it, then all the more power to him. The onus is on the consumer to resist it. A bit of critical thinking and self-discipline doesn't hurt.

Yet when people watch the ABC critical thinking and self-discipline do not count.....The viewer must not be exposed to any left leaning ideology.....Like it does not exist or need an avenue to balance the commercial media that has been taken over by vested interests.....Lets not forget the Coalition also control the ABC when in power and stack the board with their mates.....Having more diverse views and alternate comment is a valid point.....However I feel the ABC certainly has enough right leaning commentators for my liking!!!


;) ;) ;)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons.

They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 9:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free.

rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions ....

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 9:22pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free. rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions ....

Ooh, I know, there's SS troops in people's houses forcing them to read The Australian or it's off to the gas chamber!

Seriously, these cities are?

Any time I have seen it's biased as all hell in favour of tree hugging and social welfare!!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Bolt isn't balanced, and he doesn't pretend to be. Most importantly, he's not on the public teat. Murdoch's "empire" only exists because people freely purchase his goods. No one forces people to buy his stuff, yet they still do. He obviously, then, provides a service good enough that people are willing to pay for it.

No - he has a captive clientele

SOB

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 4:11am:

Any time I have seen it's biased as all hell in favour of tree hugging and social welfare!!

Hahahahaha. You obviously havent watched it. It isnt even shown in america or uk is it?

SOB

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:22pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free. rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions .... Ooh, I know, there's SS troops in people's houses forcing them to read The Australian or it's off to the gas chamber! Seriously, these cities are?

Mass misinformation and propaganda does work and it does influence opinion.
In Australia these methods are deliberately used to drive public opinion and it is very effective.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:47pm:

If people are gullible enough to believe it, then all the more power to him. The onus is on the consumer to resist it. A bit of critical thinking and self-discipline doesn't hurt.

IF THE ONUS IS ON THE CONSUMER THEN WHY IS THERE CONSUMER PROTECTION?

adelcrow wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 7:05pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. Only on channel 10..the commercial station that rates less than the ABC  :D

THEY ONLY RATE COS PEOPLE LIKE CHECKING OUT THE PROPAGANDA PROJECT AT W(&% TIME!

[DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD??]  :'( :'( :'( :'(  ;D

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:22pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free. rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions .... Ooh, I know, there's SS troops in people's houses forcing them to read The Australian or it's off to the gas chamber! Seriously, these cities are?

Adelaide and Brisbane. I'm not sure about Perth, Darwin and Hobart.

I could be wrong, but the only cities I can think of with competing Fairfax dailies are Sydney and Melbourne.

Not for long...

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 9:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free.

MORNING MIST HAS NEVER HEARD OF THE ECONOMIC CONCEPT OF 'ELASTICITY'!!

LOL, JUST SO LOL!

GO PRETEND BUSINESS ACUMEN YEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!  :o :o :o

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:22pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free. rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions .... Ooh, I know, there's SS troops in people's houses forcing them to read The Australian or it's off to the gas chamber! Seriously, these cities are?

MORNING MIST IS A JOKE!!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:47pm:

If people are gullible enough to believe it, then all the more power to him. The onus is on the consumer to resist it. A bit of critical thinking and self-discipline doesn't hurt.

Sounds like cultural Marxism to me. Power to the people.

Karnal wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 10:07pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:22pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free. rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions .... Ooh, I know, there's SS troops in people's houses forcing them to read The Australian or it's off to the gas chamber! Seriously, these cities are? Adelaide and Brisbane. I'm not sure about Perth, Darwin and Hobart. I could be wrong, but the only cities I can think of with competing Fairfax dailies are Sydney and Melbourne. Not for long...

Anyone who has access to the internet has access to a number of media sources and blogs/sites critiquing media sources.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 3:12pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:47pm: If people are gullible enough to believe it, then all the more power to him. The onus is on the consumer to resist it. A bit of critical thinking and self-discipline doesn't hurt. IF THE ONUS IS ON THE CONSUMER THEN WHY IS THERE CONSUMER PROTECTION?

So you want laws to protect the stupidity and gullibility of the reading public?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 7:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 3:16pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 10:07pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:22pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:07pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:07pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:57pm: If the people believe Bolt's lazy and unbalanced, then he'll fall as market forces dictate. But people like what he says, so they still buy it. 90% of peoples belief in Market forces are rubbish. The market dictates a lot less mostly people in power use it as an excuse to make the choices they wish to make for other non related reasons. They aren't rubbish. If no one buys Murdoch's goods, then he goes bankrupt. Moreover, if people cease buying goods altogether, you won't have any tax payer's dollars to support the ABC. Those trendies won't work for free. rubbish ... their are whole cities in OZ where you either have to watch Murdochs news or buy his paper ... there just are no other otpions .... Ooh, I know, there's SS troops in people's houses forcing them to read The Australian or it's off to the gas chamber! Seriously, these cities are? Adelaide and Brisbane. I'm not sure about Perth, Darwin and Hobart. I could be wrong, but the only cities I can think of with competing Fairfax dailies are Sydney and Melbourne. Not for long... Anyone who has access to the internet has access to a number of media sources and blogs/sites critiquing media sources.

many don't ...