but there are many who are getting help from one or more fathers of their illegitamites,  not paying rent, maybe having a side job at night and still collecting everything from Welfare.

I hear that  when reported, these still carry on, unhindered by Centrelink.

I think it is our lazy bureaucrats who should pull up their socks!

rubbish saulty... with all this techo at hand now they are able to track down people really quick...and at least depts are working with each other like to ATO.

I honestly believe we only have a few cheats but those few make it tough for everyone..and with centrelink they have no choice but to pay it back..

from what I have read  there have been aquite a lot of oldies..that claim single pensions whilst living with someone who works... its not just young people.

Like all good ideas the single parent pension started off as a good idea but has now been comprehensively rorted to buggery.

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Like all good ideas the single parent pension started off as a good idea but has now been comprehensively rorted to buggery.

like all welfare it needs to stop at a certain level.. or at least slow down.for instance fancy giving mothers the baby bonus per child...

why give parents maternity leave pay as well as baby bonus.and now fathers are getting two weeks paid leave..when does it stop???????

if parents have 5 children they get paid five times..its ridiculous.

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 5:47pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 5:39pm: Like all good ideas the single parent pension started off as a good idea but has now been comprehensively rorted to buggery. like all welfare it needs to stop at a certain level.. or at least slow down.for instance fancy giving mothers the baby bonus per child... why give parents maternity leave pay as well as baby bonus.and now fathers are getting two weeks paid leave..when does it stop??????? if parents have 5 children they get paid five times..its ridiculous.

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You are on a roll Cods.....Twice in one day we have agreed!!!

:) :) :)

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Like all good ideas the single parent pension started off as a good idea but has now been comprehensively rorted to buggery.

There you go again jumping on a bandwagon. Didnt you read cods post? its only a very very few.

SOB

olde.sault wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 10:50am:

but there are many who are getting help from one or more fathers of their illegitamites,  not paying rent, maybe having a side job at night and still collecting everything from Welfare. I hear that  when reported, these still carry on, unhindered by Centrelink. I think it is our lazy bureaucrats who should pull up their socks!

Of course expecting people to be honest would be asking too much.....When people are caught stealing from the taxpayer they should suffer the full penalty of the law and be refused Government assistance unless a hardship case is proven (in the case of children)....I do not like dishonest people!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Every generalization or accusation made against disadvantaged single mothers without facts can be noted and archived and considered a crime of aggression against the poor... :) :)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 5:39pm: Like all good ideas the single parent pension started off as a good idea but has now been comprehensively rorted to buggery. There you go again jumping on a bandwagon. Didnt you read cods post? its only a very very few. SOB

Yes thats right, a very very few genuine cases  ;)

I believe accusations against the disadvantaged without facts must be considered malicious and should be noted by all of the authorities... :)

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 6:28pm:

Every generalization or accusation made against disadvantaged single mothers without facts can be noted and archived and considered a crime of aggression against the poor... :) :)

Archive this ya poofter ... Get f-cked!  ;D

Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[

Some mothers do av em

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 6:46pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:28pm: Every generalization or accusation made against disadvantaged single mothers without facts can be noted and archived and considered a crime of aggression against the poor... :) :) Archive this ya poofter ... Get f-cked!  ;D

Oooooooohh hit a nerve did he? Your trolling going a bit far? Lashing out?

SOB

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1357174220/11#11 date=1357202837]Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[/quote]

Yes, best a guy gets a DNA test done these days.

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 6:46pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:28pm: Every generalization or accusation made against disadvantaged single mothers without facts can be noted and archived and considered a crime of aggression against the poor... :) :) Archive this ya poofter ... Get f-cked!  ;D

You might feel free to say that now...but for how long...?  Those you hope to serve your interests are already feeling the heat of being watched...soon they will be doing their job and watching malicious people like you...but rest assured...the times they are a changing...there is a file \on all of your heroes...all of your favorite shockjocks and 6.30 tabloid programs...2day fm has a file...I do not mind admitting that and I have a personal one for some of their on air presenters and all of this can be forwarded to the relevant authorities each and every time they act out against people who are disadvantaged...so while you may feel secure...your right wing goals are not... :) :)

Yeah good luck with all that, soon the communist party of Australia otherwise known as the Gillard Labor government will be turfed out on their arse and true freedom will be restored to Australia, no more need for dossiers in this free land. 

I'd like to know where all these single parents are going to be finding jobs, to start with.

Then what they'll be doing with the 8 yr olds when they're working if they do find a job.

The bad people lurk in the shadows...waiting to pounce on kids left alone.

eg;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ebony_Simpson

On 19 August 1992, Ebony disembarked from her school bus and walked past a parked Mazda 808 owned by Garforth. Garforth abducted her, put her in the boot ("trunk") and drove to a remote location near Wirrimbirra Sanctuary. He raped her repeatedly, bound her, weighted her schoolbag and threw her into a dam where she drowned.

Ebony was 9 years old.

bambu wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 6:57pm:

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1357174220/11#11 date=1357202837]Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[/quote] Yes, best a guy gets a DNA test done these days.

Yes but you need a court order to get one & even if it proves negative -
the Mother may not have to pay you back.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 7:09pm:

bambu wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:57pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1357174220/11#11 date=1357202837]Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[/quote] Yes, best a guy gets a DNA test done these days. Yes but you need a court order to get one & even if it proves negative - the Mother may not have to pay you back.

Get one before you start paying.
Insisting you're not the father should see a court order issued.

Better still, get married first, before having unprotected sex.

Oh, and use your own condoms, not the ones the 'sperm hunters' might produce. :)

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Yeah good luck with all that, soon the communist party of Australia otherwise known as the Gillard Labor government will be turfed out on their arse and true freedom will be restored to Australia, no more need for dossiers in this free land.

Do you think people are not doing due diligence on dossiers of your coalition heroes to ensure the disadvantaged are protected from victimization...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNWAcVW3vxU
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNWAcVW3vxU 8-) 8-)

bambu wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 7:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:09pm: bambu wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:57pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1357174220/11#11 date=1357202837]Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[/quote] Yes, best a guy gets a DNA test done these days. Yes but you need a court order to get one & even if it proves negative - the Mother may not have to pay you back. Get one before you start paying. Insisting you're not the father should see a court order issued. Better still, get married first, before having unprotected sex. Oh, and use your own condoms, not the ones the 'sperm hunters' might produce. :)

Good advice - be careful of those sperm hunters.  ;D

bambu wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 7:07pm:

I'd like to know where all these single parents are going to be finding jobs, to start with. Then what they'll be doing with the 8 yr olds when they're working if they do find a job. The bad people lurk in the shadows...waiting to pounce on kids left alone. eg; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ebony_Simpson On 19 August 1992, Ebony disembarked from her school bus and walked past a parked Mazda 808 owned by Garforth. Garforth abducted her, put her in the boot ("trunk") and drove to a remote location near Wirrimbirra Sanctuary. He raped her repeatedly, bound her, weighted her schoolbag and threw her into a dam where she drowned. Ebony was 9 years old.

Everyone is ignoring these kind of questions. in more than 1 thread.

SOB

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 6:46pm:

I believe accusations against the disadvantaged without facts must be considered malicious and should be noted by all of the authorities... :)

what accusations are you talking about?? for goodness sake do you think we should have the police watching a forum like this.. just in case som eone says something that offends someone..

also what "disadvantaged" are you referring too in particular..

I dont see disadvantaged in this country...

I so see a lot of those that wont help themselves..

education is there for all right though life..if you choose not to take Advantage of it.. whos faults that?

bambu wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 7:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:09pm: bambu wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:57pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1357174220/11#11 date=1357202837]Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[/quote] Yes, best a guy gets a DNA test done these days. Yes but you need a court order to get one & even if it proves negative - the Mother may not have to pay you back. Get one before you start paying. Insisting you're not the father should see a court order issued. Better still, get married first, before having unprotected sex. Oh, and use your own condoms, not the ones the 'sperm hunters' might produce. :)

good advice...they wont take it though too lazy..

what to do about blokes that keep producing children????.. there seems no end to them..
I know of blokes that have fathered children with 3 different women..all battling to get anything out of them..

there has to be some way to stop this or at least make these guys face their responsibilities.


single mothers its always single mothers....

what about single fathers? the no hopers who couldnt careless about the consequences.

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:44am:

bambu wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:19pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:09pm: bambu wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:57pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1357174220/11#11 date=1357202837]Some single Mother's have even collected maintenance from the wrong guy.  :-[/quote] Yes, best a guy gets a DNA test done these days. Yes but you need a court order to get one & even if it proves negative - the Mother may not have to pay you back. Get one before you start paying. Insisting you're not the father should see a court order issued. Better still, get married first, before having unprotected sex. Oh, and use your own condoms, not the ones the 'sperm hunters' might produce. :) good advice...they wont take it though too lazy.. what to do about blokes that keep producing children????.. there seems no end to them.. I know of blokes that have fathered children with 3 different women..all battling to get anything out of them.. there has to be some way to stop this or at least make these guys face their responsibilities. single mothers its always single mothers.... what about single fathers? the no hopers who couldnt careless about the consequences.

I've known several 'fathers' in this situation who WANTED to be there for the kid(s), but were denied that by the mothers.

It's not all about dead-beat dads, in fact it's not about them at ALL.

The REASON one is a single parent is IRRELEVANT, except to the excessively judgemental.

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:37am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:46pm: I believe accusations against the disadvantaged without facts must be considered malicious and should be noted by all of the authorities... :) what accusations are you talking about?? for goodness sake do you think we should have the police watching a forum like this.. just in case som eone says something that offends someone.. also what "disadvantaged" are you referring too in particular.. I dont see disadvantaged in this country... I so see a lot of those that wont help themselves.. education is there for all right though life..if you choose not to take Advantage of it.. whos faults that?

These pollies in power now and howard especially got the free education when it was free. Now its NOT available to all because its expensive.

SOB

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:44am:

I know of blokes that have fathered children with 3 different women..all battling to get anything out of them..

The sluts should have known better then, shouldn't they?  But as usual, they'll get a free pass. 

Most dead beat dads do not pay any child maintenance and should have their accounts controlled by the state to ensure their children are financially taken care of...  :)

I condemn rampant male violence and rape of women and children... :(

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

I condemn rampant male violence and rape of women and children... :(

Wow it's so big of you to condemn rape.  I mean, it's such an original stance to hold.  ::)

... wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 10:44am: I condemn rampant male violence and rape of women and children... :( Wow it's so big of you to condemn rape.  I mean, it's such an original stance to hold.  ::)

So you take the anti and extremist view just to be different.... :o  :-/ :-?

I condemn cannibalizing newborn babies.  Do I get a gold star?