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Title: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 2:59pm

The AFP has today (7 January 2013) served the legal representative of Mr Peter Slipper MP with a summons in relation to three offences of Dishonestly Causing a Risk of a Loss to the Commonwealth pursuant to section 135.1(5) Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth).

Mr Slipper MP has been summonsed to appear in the Canberra Magistrates Court on 15 February 2013.

It would not be appropriate to comment further at this time.

http://the-riotact.com/peter-slipper-to-face-the-canberra-magistrates-court/91810

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by hadrian_now on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:06pm

Well if comment is out of the question, what about a bit of speculation?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:10pm

Thomo next

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:15pm

2013 is going to be a great year.

Slipper
Thomo
Wilson/Gillard

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:15pm

hadrian_now wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:06pm:

Well if comment is out of the question, what about a bit of speculation?

I would say it might have something to do with certain cab charges or travel expenses.....Peter Slipper should just resign and save himself all the agony he is putting everyone through!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Aussie on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:32pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

hadrian_now wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:06pm:

Well if comment is out of the question, what about a bit of speculation?

If this report is correct....it can only have to do with Cabcharge vouchers.....Have I read somewhere that he handed blank ones over to a Cabbie?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by the wise one on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

2013 is going to be a great year.

Slipper
Thomo
Wilson/Gillard

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Aussie on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

2013 is going to be a great year.

Slipper
Thomo
Wilson/Gillard

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

You forgot McArdle.....Qld State Lib. Polly.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:56pm

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

2013 is going to be a great year.

Slipper
Thomo
Wilson/Gillard

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

Because your cases are weaker than weak. The cases linked to the names I provided, have enough circumstantial evidence to keep it going for years if it never gets to court.

Yours, you are lucky to keep it going full speed for a few weeks.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by the wise one on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:56pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

You forgot McArdle.....Qld State Lib. Polly.

and they are all in the liberal party

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by FRED. on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:03pm

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

You forgot McArdle.....Qld State Lib. Polly.

and they are all in the liberal party

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by alevine on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:17pm

FRED. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

You forgot McArdle.....Qld State Lib. Polly.

and they are all in the liberal party

Hiya Fweddy!! You on summer holidays now? :)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by FRED. on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:17pm:

FRED. wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

John S wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

Why don't you put the rest of them in

Abbott
Pyne
Brough
Ashby
Bishop

You forgot McArdle.....Qld State Lib. Polly.

and they are all in the liberal party

Hiya Fweddy!! You on summer holidays now? :)

That would be cooll ;)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by adelcrow on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:41pm

Oh no..a member of the Libbos for over 20 yrs is going to court for ripping off the Commonwealth..soooooo why did the Libbos keep pre selecting the bozo?
Oh well another safe Labor seat bites the dust...hang on its always been a safe Libbo seat ;D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by FRED. on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:45pm

adelcrow wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

Just in case your not shore WINGNUT IT'S MONDAY ;) ;)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:51pm

adelcrow wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

does anyone know what adels on about he is acting stranger and stranger..

one and I mean ONE> ex Lib and they are cockahoop....shows how the desperation is eating away at them... this guy even fantasises about Abbott having affairs a real turn on for him...

who the hell cares if Abbott is having a 100 affairs....got nothing to do with anyone else other than his wife...ooops.. and adel.. ;) ;) ;) ;)

as for the thread...well I am sure we will find out on the 15th feb....I will check my diary and see if I can fit in a visit to the court house..that day..

wonder if Roxons fixed his special parking.???

the parking is murder down there.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm

http://www.news.com.au/national/peter-slipper-summonsed-by-australian-federal-police/story-fndo4eg9-1226549056082

Peter Slipper summonsed by Australian Federal Police

Steve Lewis
News Limited Network
January 07, 20135:17PM

Peter Slipper as he resigned as Speaker of the House of Representatives. Picture: Ray Strange Source: News Limited

FORMER Speaker Peter Slipper could face the possibility of a jail sentence if found guilty of offences after being summonsed to appear in court over allegations he rorted his Cabcharge entitlements.

After an investigation lasting nearly nine months, the Australian Federal Police said it had served Mr Slipper with a summons "in relation to three offences of Dishonestly Causing a Risk of a Loss to the Commonwealth".

The alleged offences would breach the Commonwealth Criminal Code, if proven, and carry a maximum penalty of five years imprisonment.

The legal setback for Mr Slipper comes just a few weeks after the former Speaker had a major victory in the Federal Court when allegations of sexual harassment were thrown out.

Those allegations were brought by a former adviser, James Ashby, who also alleged that he witnessed Mr Slipper signing blank Cabcharge dockets during several visits to Sydney in early 2012.

The AFP, after an initial investigation, referred matters to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions.

In a statement, the DPP said it could "confirm that the AFP have sworn an information and summons which alleges three offences against section 135.1(5) of the Criminal Code (Cth) in relation to allegations concerning the use of Cabcharges by Mr Slipper".

The DPP said it would be "inappropriate to comment further" as the matter was before the Canberra Magistrates Court.

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Aussie on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:28pm

This is cods being non abusive:

Quote:

does anyone know what adels on about he is acting stranger and stranger..

...and cods... on the occasions I turn up here....you can rely on me to support your claim that you never abuse.

;)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:45pm

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

In the past the party would have supported him and ensured he repaid the money before it was investigated by the police.....Similar to Peter Reith and the phone card affair.....Despite the fact it is directly against the rules to allow your family to use your government phone card and Reith's son racked up over $50K he escaped any punishment and avoided a police investigation.....Anyone else would have been charged with fraud!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:56pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

This is cods being non abusive:

Quote:

does anyone know what adels on about he is acting stranger and stranger..

...and cods... on the occasions I turn up here....you can rely on me to support your claim that you never abuse.

;)

If that were abuse on here, I would be all for it.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Aussie on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:12pm

According to some speculation:

Quote:

It is understood they relate to three Comcar trips in 2010, in which Mr Slipper - who was then a Coalition MP - travelled beyond the allowed Canberra region. The trips are understood amount to about $900.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-to-face-dishonesty-court-hearing-20130107-2ccgf.html#ixzz2HH83CNAK

....I am wrong.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

The charges are believed to relate to Mr Slipper's use of hire cars in January, March and June 2010, when he was a Liberal National Party MP.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/breaking-news/peter-slipper-to-face-charges/story-e6freono-1226549061503

Just another dodgy Liberal Party MP.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by adelcrow on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:34pm

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

Im on holidays and renovating our retirement house so Im allowed to act stranger than usual :P

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by adelcrow on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:35pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:28pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

I wonder what the Libbos did about it before he bailed on them?

Lets sseeeeeee..a big fat nothing :D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm

Poor old labrats cant handle that their party took over responsibility for the slippery pete.

Good luck convincing people slipper was liberal, when labor used him for their own slimey purposes.

A corrupt politician always fits better with the labor party. And thats exactly what happened.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by adelcrow on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:45pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

Poor old labrats cant handle that their party took over responsibility for the slippery pete.

Good luck convincing people slipper was liberal, when labor used him for their own slimey purposes.

A corrup politician always fits better with the labor party. And thats exactly what happened.

Remind us what the Libbos were doing while he was ripping off the system with obvious approval from them and why did they ignore it for 20 yrs?
Until of course ..the day after he jumped ship ;D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:59pm

adelcrow wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

Poor old labrats cant handle that their party took over responsibility for the slippery pete.

Good luck convincing people slipper was liberal, when labor used him for their own slimey purposes.

A corrup politician always fits better with the labor party. And thats exactly what happened.

Remind us what the Libbos were doing while he was ripping off the system with obvious approval from them and why did they ignore it for 20 yrs?
Until of course ..the day after he jumped ship ;D

They were waiting for the natural progression toward labor or they were going to boot him. Gillard said, dont worry about your past, dont let those liberals push you around and get rid of you. We will gladly take you on, you are the right character for labor to align with.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Aussie on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:18pm

Quote:

Gillard said, dont worry about your past, dont let those liberals push you around and get rid of you. We will gladly take you on, you are the right character for labor to align with.

Got a link............... :o

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:18pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

Poor old labrats cant handle that their party took over responsibility for the slippery pete.

When did that happen?

I don't remember the ALP ever choosing him as their representative

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

Good luck convincing people slipper was liberal, when labor used him for their own slimey purposes.

I don't think people need to be convinced slipper was liberal. He was repeatedly preselected by them over decades. And in the past they simply allowed his to pay off his corruption:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/peter-slipper-summonsed-by-australian-federal-police/story-e6frg6n6-1226549056082

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

A corrupt politician always fits better with the labor party. And thats exactly what happened.

Yes - like Peter Reith and his phone card.....oops...bad example.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by adelcrow on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:31pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:59pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

Poor old labrats cant handle that their party took over responsibility for the slippery pete.

Good luck convincing people slipper was liberal, when labor used him for their own slimey purposes.

A corrup politician always fits better with the labor party. And thats exactly what happened.

Remind us what the Libbos were doing while he was ripping off the system with obvious approval from them and why did they ignore it for 20 yrs?
Until of course ..the day after he jumped ship ;D

Wow it took them 20 yrs and just happen to do mention it the day after he jumped ship..who would like to buy a Gold Coast time share?
:D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by gold_medal on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:49pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

hardly. anybody else woudl be told to repay the money immediately - which is what happened. It was careless and stupid. It was not however, fraud. That implies deliberate intent.

Slipper's problem is that this is about th 20th time he has been brough to task over it.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:50pm

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

In the past the Liberals were covering for him and now they are after blood.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by gold_medal on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:52pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

In the past the Liberals were covering for him and now they are after blood.

well they were in the process of expelling him so that's not exactly true. But you have to admit, Labor knows how to choose 'em! If they aren't pre selecting from their own pedophiles, thieves and corrupt union members, they are bringing them in from the outside.

labor is corrupt to the core so that only the corrupt and deviant get a look in.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

thats OK, Brough will need company in his new cell, Slipper can be his cell mate.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:12pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:49pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

Errrrr....what about Reith's son and girlfriend who racked up the bill.....Surely they knew what they where doing when they racked up $50 000 at taxpayers expense.....Daddy pays the money back and it all goes away.....Glad to see what standards you accept and defend!!!

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Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by buzzanddidj on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:34pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Why NOT ?

Section 135.1 (5) carries penalty of a maximum five years in prison, however Fairfax Media understands that even if found guilty, Mr Slipper is very unlikely to face the maximum penalty.

It is also unlikely the case would be resolved before next federal election

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-to-face-dishonesty-court-hearing-20130107-2ccgf.html#ixzz2HIBH4nw3

Bit of a "non story" - really

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Its not a case of team colours cheering amico.
Craig Thomson is a prime example - not to mention the numerous Labor politicians involved in rape accusations, embezzlement and sexual assault cases - that it is about each individual case.

Slipper is disgusting. He should be ashamed of his behaviour which so morally wrong on so many levels.

I hold this opinion irrelevant of his political party and people like you need to be a bit more mature and grown up to not turn it into us v them politics.
That helps nobody and just makes you look like a biased moron.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Spot of Borg on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:06am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

The former Speaker has been forced to repay more than $20,000 during the past decade in relation to family travel and other entitlement perks.
Posted by: cods

so whats the difference between the past 20 years and now?.. they say he could do 5 years??????.

why would he not just have to repay like in the past?

In the past the Liberals were covering for him and now they are after blood.

gillard and Co were warned about selecting THOMO........ yet they went ahead...

Now ask yourself WHY WERE THEY WARNED ABOUT HIM???????.

was anyone warned about slipper???..since being charged with loose accounting he has repaid $20.000.... so as far as I know whilst what he was doing was yucky....was it enough to get him voted out???.. apparently NOT.... as he was elected in by the people of Fisher on more than one occasion..

I think he is the MP for TRAVEL have you had a look at his career in parliament..ouch!

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:17am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

Slipper is disgusting. He should be ashamed of his behaviour which so morally wrong on so many levels.

I hold this opinion irrelevant of his political party and people like you need to be a bit more mature and grown up to not turn it into us v them politics.

I think it is reasonably clear that Slipper may not be the most upright politician we have had.

It seems to me that almost every term we have half a dozen politicians caught out rorting benefits, they are simply asked to pay it back and that is it.

In my memory this type of thing has never been actioned by the AFP to the stage of a court case and coincidentally it is a case with a hung parliament where there is political gain to be had.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:20am

Qld.Former Labor M.P. Keith Wright guilty of child rape, paroled in 1999

http://www.alpwatch.observationdeck.org/?p=62

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:24am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:17am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

true dna but a bit late in the day to try and upheaval a govt.. dont you think???...

I am wondering why this case is any different to the other times he was found with his fingers in the till???.. I mean he is facing 5 year jail.. we know that wont happen.. but he didnt face that before did he????

maybe it was kept in house before and the AFP werent involved....seems odd though..

unless of course... its a HUGE amount that he is charged with stealing..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:27am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

you do try dont you?.. is sexual assault the same or worse than rape?????

I am sure in your case it will be worse should Abbott ever be accused of it..

do you lefties pray every day for something to come to light in Abbott "murky" past..?? ;D ;D ;D ;D

of course non of us have ever done/said anything we wished we hadnt in our pasts..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:27am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:17am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

And I thought Pansi and Miss Borg weren't the brightest on here.

You are insinuating the Federal Police are bringing charges to bring Gillard down.

Jesus now I have heard it all.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:35am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

I do know it is hard for you but there is a difference from being accused and being found guilty and doing gaol time.

Judging by a post from you last week you seem to find rape trivial. That seems to be the ALP mantra.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Maqqa on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

The accusations against Abbott was dismissed - but according to leftards

(1) if it's a LIB person then accusation is good enough to be guilty

(2) when all facts are assess and it was dismissed then you are still guilty

(3) if it's a Labor person or their supporters then you are assumed innocent for life

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:21am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

Judging by a post from you last week you seem to find rape trivial.

?????? Not sure what I posted but defiantly not true ?????

I do know it is hard for you but there is a difference from being accused and being found guilty and doing gaol time.

The situation with Theo was the same as with Abbott - the charge was thrown out and never went to trial, the Lady who complained has been found guilty of defamation.

My question stands - are you happy to hold Abbott to the same standard?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

THe facts were not assessed on Abbott's indecent assault charge. The case was dismissed. Several witesses saw Abbott touch the victim. One wonders why he can't keep his hands to himself

Abbott: I was charged with indecent assault
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/17/1089694611809.html

However, there were 3 witnesses to Abbott thowing a punch at a woman's head. He was not charged for that, as he was for indecent assault - but it does tell us quite a bit about his character I think. He was also chaged and found guilty of damaging public property - although no conviction was recorded. No wonder the Libs are desperately wheeling out any female they can find to try to talk him up.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

Check the facts before you start dribbling.

The accusations against Theophanous was dismissed - but according to rightards

(1) if it's a Labor person then accusation is good enough to be guilty

(2) when all facts are assess and it was dismissed then you are still guilty

(3) if it's a Lib person or their supporters then you are assumed innocent for life[/quote]

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 11:53am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:35am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and by the same token

gillard in a 4 year relationship with guy she helped..[even though young and naive] gain access to hundreds of thousands of dollars of other peoples money????..

even I would have questioned his need to have

Power of Attorney????

why??? I would have asked him do you need that?.. shouldnt a slush fund for the UNION have

more than one signature to its accounts...

shouldnt any prudent lawyer have questioned the need for that????????????????.

at least I would have asked that even if I was young and naive...

but its okay you have so many excuses for why gillard did or didnt do when she was young and naive... yet abbott isnt accorded any of those things..

can you tell me what public property he was found guilty of damaging.. and was he young and naive when this took place... or was he in his 30s???

you keep going back years then whingeing when we talk about gillard communist affiliations.. and background in corruption for the Unions..with her old lover in crime ... married lover at that.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Maqqa on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

(1) There are plenty of innuendos - but there are no Affidavits or signed statements

(2) You make a comment that he was not charge - but IT says alot about Abbott. I am assuming the word "IT" refers to "THE EVENT". Because he was not charged - THE EVENT did not take place

(3) All this happened when he was 20 years old and you guys hold him more culpable and responsible than a 35 years old lawyer who was acting within the fiduciary and professional responsibility

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Maqqa on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

[/quote]

How about Orkopoulous?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:25pm

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:27am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

lol, cods saying we're all sinners yet continues to judge!

No wonder war reigns this earth!!

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:27pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Sounds pretty stupid doesnt it. A person almost twice his age. A lawyer. A partner even. Contrast that with a 20 year old wannabe something, against all kinds of imature wannabes of something. If worlds dont collide in those years, there is something wrong.

If a 35 year old patner in a law firm helps a boyfriend setup a secret association, using the name of a union to look part of that union and then hundreds of thousands of dollars are defrauded through that association and the boyfriend gives you the rich lifestyle while you seem to be distanced from the source of the money and knowing you will marry that man one day (until it all fell to crap). Now thats another thing entirely.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

[/quote]

Hmm, seems you skipped over this one DNA. Why am I not surprised?

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Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Reply #42 - Today at 7:20am Quote Modify
Qld.Former Labor M.P. Keith Wright guilty of child rape, paroled in 1999

http://www.alpwatch.observationdeck.org/?p=62

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:27am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:14am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:45am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Another dodgy lib ... when will it end ....

.

Which behaviour was wrong?

Who are the labour pollies with rape accusations?

SOB

State Labor MP Theo Theophanous charged with one count of rape

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/theophanous-quits-cabinet/story-e6frf7jo-1111118403592

You would be equally happy to condemn Abbott for being accused of sexual assult of course?

lol, cods saying we're all sinners yet continues to judge!

No wonder war reigns this earth!!

WHERE DID i EVER SAY THAT.??? BONKERS! TOTALLY BONKERS.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:04pm

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

Hmm, seems you skipped over this one DNA. Why am I not surprised?

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Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Reply #42 - Today at 7:20am Quote Modify
Qld.Former Labor M.P. Keith Wright guilty of child rape, paroled in 1999

http://www.alpwatch.observationdeck.org/?p=62
[/quote]

we could go on all day reminding them.. of the ones they prefer to forget...

it never fails to amaze me how they can pretend this never happened..its diabolical. to say the least and yet not one on here ever owns it..

they spread malicious lies about Abbott..[read adel].. god only knows what they had when Howard was PM...

if that women who claims Abbott sexually assaulted her had something she would do something about it now...

as far as I know there is no time frame on sexual cases...well judging by the Church... and now the Royal Commission...

and rightly so...if she has a case bring it on..

same with a Royal into AWU bring it on.. lets clear it up and we can move on..and stop this crap.

I am all for it... but never hear of anyone else saying the same thing..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:23pm

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

Probably took his boyfriend there, the gays love wineries.

I had sympathy at first for Slipper, but it's all gone now and I feel nothing but anger.

He's played his employers, us, the taxpayers, for mugs, and up until now got away with it.

The Coalition needs to explain why they preselected him 9 times, and Labor needs to explain why they shafted the respected Harry Jenkins and saw him fit to be the Speaker of OUR Parliament.

A pox on both their houses.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:24pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

(1) There are plenty of innuendos - but there are no Affidavits or signed statements

There were 3 witnesses to Abbott thowing a punch at a woman's head. All 3 readily supplied the press with this information

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

(2) You make a comment that he was not charge - but IT says alot about Abbott. I am assuming the word "IT" refers to "THE EVENT". Because he was not charged - THE EVENT did not take place

There were 3 witnesses to Abbott thowing a punch at a woman's head. All 3 say the event did take place. Only Abbott denies it did. And well - he would, wouldn't he.

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

(3) All this happened when he was 20 years old and you guys hold him more culpable and responsible than a 35 years old lawyer who was acting within the fiduciary and professional responsibility

At least Gillard has never been charged with indecent assault or been found guilty of damaging public property. In fact - no actual accusations of wrong-doing were ever made against her, were they.

Anyway - 2013 is now 8 days in, and so far Abbott has not punched or groped anyone yet!! It looks like a good year for big Tone! He has his "women" all coming out to protect him against that nasty "handbag mafia". Now - if he could just explain how he is going to pay for his Great Big Carbon Tax to achieve exactly the same emissions reductions as Labor - then he will be plain sailing!

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 2:16am

Oh oh, looks like slippery pete was using our money to personally tour the vinyards and have a sip of drink.

Slipper 'toured wineries at taxpayers' expense'

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-toured-wineries-at-taxpayers-expense-20130108-2cea4.html#ixzz2HMaDydkq

Gillards/labor's judgment is pathetic on many levels.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 3:14am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 2:16am:

neither party has a lot to be proud of over their dealings with this man..hes never been a shrinking violet when it comes to top of the range fraud..

he has been allowed to repay $20.000 a substantial sum stolen from the taxpayer. yet still allowed to carry on as if he was not a repeat offender..something wrong with a system that says it is still ok for him to be an MP even with a record of theft...

would a bank teller be allowed to keep his job had he been caught with his hands in the till

i doubt it...

I wonder how other MPs like the idea that a person like this taints them all.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 3:45am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

(1) There are plenty of innuendos - but there are no Affidavits or signed statements

There were 3 witnesses to Abbott thowing a punch at a woman's head. All 3 readily supplied the press with this information

[b]PRETTY SELECTIVE OF COURSE..... THEY TOLD THE PRESS??? WHY NOT THE COURT WHERE IT COUNTS?[/b]

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

(2) You make a comment that he was not charge - but IT says alot about Abbott. I am assuming the word "IT" refers to "THE EVENT". Because he was not charged - THE EVENT did not take place

There were 3 witnesses to Abbott thowing a punch at a woman's head. All 3 say the event did take place. Only Abbott denies it did. And well - he would, wouldn't he.

well gillard denies EVERYTHING... even saying there will be no carbon tax....

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

(3) All this happened when he was 20 years old and you guys hold him more culpable and responsible than a 35 years old lawyer who was acting within the fiduciary and professional responsibility

At least Gillard has never been charged with indecent assault or been found guilty of damaging public property. In fact - no actual accusations of wrong-doing were ever made against her, were they.

YOU FORGET AWU GATE[/size]

Anyway - 2013 is now 8 days in, and so far Abbott has not punched or groped anyone yet!! It looks like a good year for big Tone! He has his "women" all coming out to protect him against that nasty "handbag mafia". Now - if he could just explain how he is going to pay for his Great Big Carbon Tax to achieve exactly the same emissions reductions as Labor - then he will be plain sailing!

[size=18]yeah and gillard hasnt helped her lover to help himself to other peoples money... well not that we know of.... though I presume she allows timmy to drive her govt funded car and chalk up 8 speeding tickets..or maybe its his kids....we may find out eventually.

yes I am sure if what is said about Tony isnt exactly nice. or anything to be proud of.... I would rather his misdeeds when he was YOUNG AND FOOLISH.[20yrs old]

than gillards... misdeeds when she claims she was a YOUNG AND NAIVE 32yr old lawyer..[ ;D]

I have noticed she hasnt said the words.. working families since all this came to light...

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Spot of Borg on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:11am

He was a good speaker though . . . .

SOB

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:18am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:11am:

He was a good speaker though . . . .

SOB

so it seemed but he was there for too short a time to really give him a good mark..

and with all his travelling.. OMG..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:01am

when you think what can happen to slipper if he is found guilty .. it makes me wonder what on earth faces THOMO..alright these union members are not tax payers......but on the other hand they are.!!.

and he is an MP just like slipper.

if you are caught with your hand in the till.... does it matter who owns the till?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:31am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

How about Orkopoulous?

How about you admit when you are wrong and not just change the subject?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:42am

cods wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

Sorry I'm not up to date so have to ask has Thompson been charged with anything?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 8:55am

Anybody else notice Slipper was doing this when he was still an endorsed member of the LIBERAL party? This happened in 2010 , why didn't Phony tony dump Slipper for his misconduct? Why did the Libs keep endorsing Slippper for years when they knew he was fiddling the books? Abbott is complicit in covering this up for Slipper.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 8:56am

Thomson?

If you defend that slimeball, dnarever, then you are letting bias go way beyond the acceptable norm?

His actions - the ones confirmed and known about - show scant regard for the membership money of the lowest paid workers in Australia and you know that.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:34am

Possible reason to celebrate.

Slipper faces pension dilemma

FORMER parliamentary Speaker Peter Slipper risks losing millions of dollars in retirement benefits if he is convicted of using his government Cabcharge card to tour restaurants and wineries.

When he retires, Mr Slipper can expect to receive a yearly pension of about $157,000 for the rest of his life.

However, if he is found guilty of the alleged fraud, Mr Slipper is likely to lose everything besides a refund of his superannuation contributions (without interest).

Mr Slipper's retirement package is especially lucrative because of his long service - 23 years as an MP - and his occupation of highly paid roles including Speaker of the House of Representatives, where he earned an annual salary of $371,463.

The threat to his entitlements provides an incentive for him to resign before he faces court next month, if he fears a guilty verdict and wants to protect his pension.

more
http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/1226365/slipper-faces-pension-dilemma/?cs=7

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:50am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:34am:

seems to me sometimes thats all they are in it for.. who wouldnt like $157k a year???

from what I have read this sleaze has been handing out cabcharge blanks for ages..using them to buy people..

this system is broke... someone fix it fast.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:50am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 8:56am:

Considering the comment I was responding to: asking if he has been charged with anything I would think reasonable. Simple answer is yes he was charged with this or no still no charges?

Hardly unreasonable, I honestly have not been keeping up with the recent events on this one.

In my view it has always been to let the card fall, if he is guilty of anything he should get what he deserves.

What I do not like is the way he has been already found to be guilty by Tony Abbott and his cronies in the party and media circus - kangaroo style justice or the way the Liberals have had their grubby fingers all over the process.

He may be guilty or not but either way the Liberals performance has been abominable.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:50am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:34am:

Do we all understand that he was using cab charge instead of having a personal car provided and often having a chauffeur driven Limo on standby for his use?

The fact is that even though if true this abuse is not supportable in any way that he has probably saved us a lot of money on his legitimate transport over the years.

By the way - I have seen chauffeur driven government Limo's at the wineries and restrauants.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by the wise one on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:13am

I wrote a letter to the Commission of the Federal Police re Peter Reith phone card fraud

Quote:

Peter Reith $50,000 dollar phone card fraud – Will you please reinvestigate and lay charges for defrauding the commonwealth even thou he paid it back I believe – he still defrauded the commonwealth and this should not be ingnored.

Also the involvement of the LNP MPs, Brough ,and Ashby, Doane, especially after Justice Rares decision. I believe this type of action is Sedition, trying to bring down a legit elected government by illegal means.

Also Mr.Brough receiving stolen property – Personal Diary of an elected official.

Also will you look at Tony Abbott book tour in 2009 where it is alledged he used taxpayer fund to push his book release. Please check all his travel documents to ensure the commonwealth has not been defrauded.

Also will the AFP check all MPs use of Commonwealth cars, Taxi vouchers to ensure non of them have defrauded the commonwealth.

As a citizen of Australia I believe the above need to be investigated thoroughly and summons need to be made just like the AFP has done in case against Peter Slipper.

Here is the link to report a crime

http://www.afp.gov.au/contact/report-a-crime.aspx

I have also sent this to the PM

Quote:

Dear PM,

I wish to ask that you may be inclined to instruct the AFP to re open the Peter Reith phone card affair as I believe a fraud to the commonwealth has been committed over a long period of time. I believe this occurred from 1994 to 2000. I believe the monies was paid back, but a crime had still been committed – Divulging Pin numbers, etc.

I also request the AFP investigate the Ashby/Slipper affair as I believe this to be considered Sedition by trying to bring down a legitimate government by changing the numbers in the house by unlawful means.

I also reuest the Mr.Brough be investigated for receiving stolen property that being the diary records of Mr.Slipper. Also I believe Mr.Ashby and Ms Doane acted with the support of the QLD LNP to defraud the commonwealth as they were not really performing their duties whist trying to undermine Mr.Slipper.

I also would like to know what can be done in regard to the so called doctor certificate Mr.Ashby received whilst employed by the commonwealth that may of been obtained under false pretences.

I would also like the AFP to investigate Mr.Abbotts travel allowances as I’m led to believe he was using commonwealth funds to launch his book tours, especially the launch of battle lines in 2009.

Thank you for your time and can you please keep me updated with the progress of my request.

Regards.

Here is the URL folks….Make it happen.

http://www.pm.gov.au/contact-your-pm

In the Guidelines for Medical Practitioners on Certificates Certifying Illness – 2011 it states under section 4.1 the following:

The Responsibilities of Medical Practitioners

4.1 Medical certificates are legal documents. Medical Practitioners who deliberately issue a false, misleading or inaccurate certificate could face disciplinary action under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law. Medical practitioners may also expose themselves to civil or criminal legal action. Medical practitioners can assist their patients by displaying a notice to this effect in their waiting rooms.

If the medical certificates were fraudulently obtained with the knowledge of the medical practitioners concerned then the latter would be liable to disciplinary action.

https://ama.com.au/position-statement/guidelines-medical-practitioners-certificates-certifying-illness-2011

Have you got the guts to send these letters and/or emails or are you going to sit on your arse and complain that nothing is being done.

Lets make all present and past politicians, public servent and politicians staff honest and not defraud the commonwealth and use public money for their own use.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:38am

John S wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

I wrote a letter to the Commission of the Federal Police re Peter Reith phone card fraud

Quote:

Here is the link to report a crime

http://www.afp.gov.au/contact/report-a-crime.aspx

I have also sent this to the PM

[quote]
Dear PM,

I wish to ask that you may be inclined to instruct the AFP to re open the Peter Reith phone card affair as I believe a fraud to the commonwealth has been committed over a long period of time. I believe this occurred from 1994 to 2000. I believe the monies was paid back, but a crime had still been committed – Divulging Pin numbers, etc.

I also request the AFP investigate the Ashby/Slipper affair as I believe this to be considered Sedition by trying to bring down a legitimate government by changing the numbers in the house by unlawful means.

I also reuest the Mr.Brough be investigated for receiving stolen property that being the diary records of Mr.Slipper. Also I believe Mr.Ashby and Ms Doane acted with the support of the QLD LNP to defraud the commonwealth as they were not really performing their duties whist trying to undermine Mr.Slipper.

I also would like to know what can be done in regard to the so called doctor certificate Mr.Ashby received whilst employed by the commonwealth that may of been obtained under false pretences.

I would also like the AFP to investigate Mr.Abbotts travel allowances as I’m led to believe he was using commonwealth funds to launch his book tours, especially the launch of battle lines in 2009.

Thank you for your time and can you please keep me updated with the progress of my request.

Regards.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:40am

John S wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

I wrote a letter to the Commission of the Federal Police re Peter Reith phone card fraud

Quote:

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:50am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:34am:

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:07am

John S wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

I wrote a letter to the Commission of the Federal Police re Peter Reith phone card fraud

Quote:

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:08am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:38am:

John S wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:13am:

I wrote a letter to the Commission of the Federal Police re Peter Reith phone card fraud

Quote:

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Your "letter" to the PM, if you actually sent it, is riddled with spelling and punctuation errors and the funniest bit is that you expect to be kept "up-to-date"!!! You're funny!!! ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

HILARIOUS>>.. can we see next weeks headline..

MAN DEMANDS ALL POLITICIANS HEAD TO THE TOWER...NOW..

can you see valley boy pounding away on his little keyboard....getting all that venom of his little liver.. I bet he drew blood..so funny..

wonder if the men in little white coats will make a visit to him soon...if I got a crank letter like that I would be very concerned for the writer.. doesnt sound stable at all..

dont you just get all the SOTL off on here valley boy?..

or is reading the independent warping your mind.?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:09am

Good luck. Root out all corruption

I am amazed someone hasnt thought of doing that before!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:10am

what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Off course not Cods.

Most on here know DNA thinks labor can do no wrong and are as pure Mount Franklin bottled water.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:12am

What goes around, comes around, sometimes!?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by progressiveslol on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:15am

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:09am:

Good luck. Root out all corruption

I am amazed someone hasnt thought of doing that before!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Well oh wise one is a little selective, so we cant include him. We just need to get him to want to rid labor of its corruption scurge.

We need to incourage the poor lad.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:19am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:10am:

I merely point out a fact and have people saying silly things about me?

If every politicians transport were audited by the AFP in this way the next sitting day would probably need to be held at long bay to get a quorum.

Most on here know DNA thinks labor can do no wrong and are as pure Mount Franklin bottled water

You probably think that I will vote Labor in 2013?

If so Wrong!

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by stryder110011 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:26am

Quote:

You probably think that I will vote Labor in 2013?

If so Wrong!

Dnaever

Of course not, you probably might vote the greens, hmmmmmm noooo maybe some other whackier left thinking political outfit you might find on the electoral roll, OR MAYBE THROW UP A DONKEY VOTE,

Well we certainly know from the your feelings you have expressed and that you have come across about abbott, conservatism and the liberals that your vote will certianly wont go to them on any given election day, THATS CLEAR AS THAT BOTTLED MOUNT FRANKLIN SPRING WATER, DNA ;D ;D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:31am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:19am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:10am:

Where will your preference go DNA?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:37am

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:26am:

Quote:

You probably think that I will vote Labor in 2013?

If so Wrong!

Dnaever

Of course not, you probably might vote the greens, hmmmmmm noooo maybe some other whackier left thinking political outfit you might find on the electoral roll, OR MAYBE THROW UP A DONKEY VOTE,

Well we certainly know from the your feelings you have expressed and that you have come across about abbott, conservatism and the liberals that it will certianly wont go to them on any given election day, Dna

Howard almost got me in 1996. Before then I was a swinging voter but since I may never vote Liberal again. Can't trust them. I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

I made the list for poor spel'n look at the effort above?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:43am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:31am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:19am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:10am:

Where will your preference go DNA?

I don't know yet may depend on who I vote for.

My vote will not be Labor or Liberal.

Probably not green, I am not against voting green but the rep in my area has mostly been an obvious nutter.

I am hoping for a reasonable independent could be either left or right leaning. I may not vote above the line this time.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by stryder110011 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am

Quote:

I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Dnaever

Conservative independents ???, Hmmmmmm referring to BOB KATTER, ???? or maybe you are impressed with Tony windsor ???, quite frankly self righteous independents of any poltical persuasion like Windsor, Oakshoft and Wilkie, HAVE DIRTIED THE NOTION OF INDEPEDENTS FOR SOME TIME NOW,

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:31am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:19am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:10am:

Where will your preference go DNA?

as the last 3 independents all went the opposite way to the wishes of their electorate what makes you think you can TRUST them when push comes to shove..

I have always said they voted labor because they feared Abbott would call an early election...and they wanted the 5 min...

not my idea of being honest or trustworthy

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:21pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

I have always said they voted labor because they feared Abbott would call an early election..

the fact that you said it does not make it so ...

did you ever consider that they may have gone with labor because they were able to negotiate a better deal for themselves and by extension their constituents? Isn't that what we all do when we negotiate with someone? I've yet to see someone negotiate two offers and take the lowest one on offer ... just never had it happen.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

I have always said they voted labor because they feared Abbott would call an early election..

The conga line are bitter old sooks, they ll never get over it that phony tony didnt win the last election.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:45pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

I have always said they voted labor because they feared Abbott would call an early election..

The conga line are bitter old sooks, they ll never get over it that phony tony didnt win the last election.

I'm not sure why anyone would want for PM the guy who seems to loose every negotiation he ever tries

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:56pm

So Slipper would still keep his entitlements if he resigned, but was still found guilty?

Great system we have, isn't it?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:59pm

So hypocritical how Labor supporters only blame the Coalition for preselecting Slipper so many times, and not their own side for making him Speaker, and so hypocritical how Coalition supporters only blame Labor for making him Speaker, but not their own side for preselecting him so many times.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Quote:

I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Quote:

I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

we are doing it tough regarding respect for our Politicians...

and I blame gillard for that... she has lowered the standards even more than they have been...like supporting THOMO and slipper..just small things.. but in my opinion they should have been stood down the moment an investigation was announced...but NO.. their votes were important and thats more important.. than honor and integrity..

I dont blame you for feeling like you do..I have felt the same a few times..Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

this lot have gone over our heads on more than one occasion..giving all future govt the same options..I dont like it either

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Quote:

I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

class? the election clearly showed people didn't want the GST

he bribed the democrats to jump ship and introduced the GST despite the fact that the wishes of the elctorate were clearly against it. About as much class as a corrupt policeman has in my books.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not

He was a good speaker and he may have saved us some money on his transport bills. On the other side of the coin apparently he had a history of misuse of his allowances a history of sexualy impropriety and significant issues, it looks like he may also have a case of potty mouth.

I believe that a balanced view is mostly closer to the mark.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

In my view a class down on Gillard and debatable with Abbott.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election.

He went for the GST because the Labor opposition was a shambles and he believed he could get away with his famous lie.

He went to an early election for the same reason - tactically he thought it was his best chance of winning.

would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

In my view if Turnbull were a better choice than Abbott it would not be by much and he would not be in front of anyone else.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:20pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Quote:

I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

in all honesty ITS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT..

trouble is now with the way this govt has lowered the standards.. its more obvious..

thats what bothers me..

she blatantly lied before the election...if as she says it wasnt a lie.. it was definitely meant to mislead...

do we really care,what its called. a price or a tax??...as with the compensation it was clear we would pay for it..

none of this was discussed before the election..

at leastr I dont recall hearing.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD

BUT THERE WILL BE COMPENSATION..

maybe you did.

it at the very least is misleading..I call it a lie.. but to each his own..

We havent given Abbott a chance we have given gillard a chance....didnt rudd say fair suck of the sauce bottle... or something like that.

from what I read and hear.. gillard has lost o lot of respect.. even in her own party almost half dont want her..so why should we??..

its not long now and we will know from both sides what we can expect.. i hope it doesn t go down the dirt trail...thats a real put off..

but wait and see john..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:22pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

They all made what they believed to be the best decision for their electorate - and were correct.

They were elected to make the decision s they made not to make assumption about what people who didn't vote for them in the first place want them to do.

Abbott was always a terrible option for Australia - these guys knew that fact.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition got back in with a majority of 80 seats, and the Democrats did promise to "keep the bastards honest", so I am not seeing your point here.

And before you call me biased or whatever, bear in mind that I voted Labor in 1998.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

you are funny dna... so you dont mind someone who has a penchant for putting his hand in the till... sexual impropriety .. potty mouth...

but as long as he appears to save the commonwealth a few dollars..

he deserves at least a balanced view....

hilarious.

he wasnt in the job of speaker that long,to really give him that much credit..I would think that job is quite precarious..I didnt think he did too bad for the time he was there..

but that doesnt excuse anything he has been accused of.. sorry..they take an OATH.. I would think becoming speaker he would taken another OATH...

sorry mate but this guy doesnt seem to have learnt much with the shame of already having to repay money from travel rorts..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

He's a sleaze.

People say that Slipper was a good Speaker, but wasn't Jenkins also?

Jenkins also comes across as a good man. Something that Slipper doesn't.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:32pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Quote:

I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

I agree for the most part, cods, but I do not think that every election has been about choosing the lesser of two evils. I just think that Gillard and Abbott qre the worst simultaneous candidates for the top position.

In fairness, you are correct that Abbott hasn't been given a chance, and I know that you like him (correct me if wrong) and I respect that. It's just that I don't think he will be that great.

I would take him any day, any time and anywhere over Gillard, but that's not saying much, given that I despise the woman more than any other PM in history.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:35pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

They all made what they believed to be the best decision for their electorate - and were correct.

HAHA GLAD YOU THINK LIKE THAT... ABBOTT ALSO PROMISED THEIR ELECTORATES THE THINGS THEY ASKED FOR..[ IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU CALL GOOD GOVT??]

BUT HE WOULDNT SAY HE WOULDNT CALL AN EARLY ELECTION..

They were elected to make the decision s they made not to make assumption about what people who didn't vote for them in the first place want them to do.

WHAT THE DOES THAT MEAN?

Abbott was always a terrible option for Australia - these guys knew that fact.

says you!

and he hasnt been tried so how do you know..??????????

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT GILLARDS PAST[ AWU] THAT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED..OUTRIGHT?

btw only one member of the left has been tried and true rudd.. so will it be him next time round.. surely you wouldnt support ex union members with shady pasts..

look at combet... he helped crash through the doors of parliament house.. and the then ACTU boss said it was the Unions finest Day... and combet was an organiser he was there.. the shops were looted what did he do to stop that???? nothing that is said in history....

yet here he is on the front bench large as life..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:37pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

hear hear john..

at least dna doesnt get abusive and personal thank you dna..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:54pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

Lol Beasley won the majority of that election but not the majority of seats. That in itself indicates the GST was far from popular. Don't try and rewrite history, we were all there too.
This poo about Gillard breaking promises et al is just bullsh it, every party does what it likes when it gets elected, it's a matter of how hypocritical you are whether you admit that or not. Gillard is no better and no worse. In my opinion Howard is a war criminal and belittled our good reputation, but the rusted on tards still cheer him on and deny the facts.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

hear hear john..

at least dna doesnt get abusive and personal thank you dna..

Thank you cods.

I am more than happy to respect other's opinions if they extend me the same respect.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:05pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:54pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

No argument from me, but that's how it goes in Australia. The party that gets the majority of seats, and can form a minority, wins. They won, so the GST had a fair mandate. I didn't support it, and voted for Beazley too, but Howard won.

The Coalition got a lot more votes than Labor last election, but not more seats.

I can't think of anyone breaking election promises to the same extent as Gillard.

As a side note, I think it a travesty that someone like Gillard has become PM, and not Beazley.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:32pm

Quote:

Leader Julia Gillard Tony Abbott
Party Labor Liberal/National coalition
Leader since 24 June 2010 1 December 2009
Leader's seat Lalor Warringah
Last election 83 seats 65 seats
Seats won 72 seats 72 seats
Seat change 11 7
Popular
Leader Julia Gillard Tony Abbott
Party Labor Liberal/National coalition
Leader since 24 June 2010 1 December 2009
Leader's seat Lalor Warringah
Last election 83 seats 65 seats
Seats won 72 seats 72 seats
Seat change 11 7
Popular vote 6,216,445 6,185,918
Percentage 50.12% 49.88%
Swing 2 6,216,445 6,185,918
Percentage 50.12% 49.88%
Swing 2

Just another coalition lie that phony and co won more popular votes at the last election. The numbers tell it all, when I went to school 6,216,445 was a larger number than 6,185,918.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:43pm

And here is another Skippy lie.

"If the ankle really cared he would have turned up and done the job without calling the press for photo ops, what a low life ankle. People are dying and all this ankle cares about is photo opps."

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:47pm

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

He did not have the numbers to pass it through, I don't remember the numbers and I can't be bothered looking them up ....I do remember he had to bribe the Democrats, who went to the same election saying they would not support the Howards GST. Hence, no more democrats.

How is it keeping them honest when they go against the wishes of the voters? In the end that turned out to be just another slogan.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:59pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

at leastr I dont recall hearing.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD

BUT THERE WILL BE COMPENSATION..

maybe you did.

Finally, Thank You Cods

no one heard it ... it was a 2 minute off the cuff interview that most people missed ... it only became a famous line after she announced she was going to introduce a price on carbon ..... lets not pretend your vote, or most others on here, hinged on that comment .... good to see at least one of you admit it.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:06pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

and he hasnt been tried so how do you know..??????????

..

So are you suggesting that we try everyone who wants a shot? Why not try Swan, or Pauline Hanson, or Bob Brown, perhaps Peter Garret or Bob Katter? According to your logic, they may be great pm's ... we don't know because 'we've never tried them

the whole point of elections is that you choose the person who you think will do the best job for you ... to argue against someones choice by saying 'you don't know that as you've never tried him' is a ridiculous statement to make.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:55pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:32pm:

Quote:

Just another coalition lie that phony and co won more popular votes at the last election. The numbers tell it all, when I went to school 6,216,445 was a larger number than 6,185,918.

I was alluding to the primary vote.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Spot of Borg on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 5:10am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

What makes it a lie? You say so?

SOB

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Spot of Borg on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 5:13am

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

Maybe. Actually it was the next one after 1998 that was prolly rigged. There was all that scandal in america but they were very quiet here. When ppl started to say so they were shut up fast. It was all very suspect.

SOB

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:11am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 5:10am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

What makes it a lie? You say so?

SOB

Talk about having to spoon feed a baby.

"If the ankle really cared he would have turned up and done the job without calling the press for photo ops, what a low life ankle. People are dying and all this ankle cares about is photo opps."

Now Miss Borg, tell me where people have died from the current bushfires.

Skippy can't but maybe you know someone that has a friend/relative that has.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by KJT1981 on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:15am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 5:13am:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

Miss Borg, if you are wondering why most here are laughing at you, look no further than the above post.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:21am

miss borg also thinks Lee Rhiann is a good example of an aussie politician..LOL

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 11:53am

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

One concern is that after Abbott and Turnbull Pyne could be next in line - probably no better, has already shown a weakness on honesty and been involved in some pretty grubby dealing.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:11pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 11:53am:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

[quote author=john_g link=1357534752/103#103 date=1357805530]

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

One concern is that after Abbott and Turnbull Pyne could be next in line - probably no better, has already shown a [highlight]weakness on honesty and been involved in some pretty grubby dealin

smacks of gillard.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

Yes they won, I'm not disputing that, but over 50% of voters voted against the GST (against the libs, GST was the main issue of that election) . Howards only mandate was to forget the GST and he ignored it.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:17pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 5:13am:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

You've lost me??

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 11:53am:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

One concern is that after Abbott and Turnbull Pyne could be next in line - probably no better, has already shown a weakness on honesty and been involved in some pretty grubby dealing.

Whereabouts?

There won't be a change in leadership while the Coalition still sits very comfortably ahead.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

I completely disagree, and as I said, I am an unbiased swing voter who voted Labor in that election.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by john_g on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:21pm

More problems for Slipper:

From the Australian:

JAMES Ashby has lodged an application for leave to appeal a court ruling, after a judge dismissed his claim of sexual harassment at the hands of former speaker Peter Slipper as a "political attack".

The former staffer lodged the application with the Federal Court today after Justice Steven Rares dismissed his case in December, saying the purpose of the case had been to “pursue a political attack against Mr Slipper”.

In his judgment, Justice Rares also said Mr Ashby's “unreasonable acts of instituting and prosecuting the proceedings” had caused Mr Slipper to incur costs.

But in the first ground of appeal listed in the application today Mr Ashby states that Justice Rares erred in finding that his “predominant purpose” was to “pursue a political attack” against Mr Slipper, rather than vindicate any legal claim.

Mr Ashby said the proceedings were, therefore, an “abuse of process”.

If leave for appeal is refused, Mr Ashby's application said “substantial injustice” would be caused, as the December judgment “has denied the applicant a hearing on the merits” and has resulted in an order that he pay Mr Slipper's costs.

In the scathing judgment of Mr Ashby, Justice Rares found that the former staffer had worked with fellow staffer Karen Doane and former federal minister Mal Brough to “advance the interests of the Liberal National Party and Mr Brough”.

Mr Brough has been preselected as the LNP's candidate for the now independent Mr Slipper's Queensland seat of Fisher at the next federal election.

He also found Mr Ashby and his solicitor, Michael Harmer, had included allegations that Mr Slipper misused cab vouchers, “for the purpose of injuring Mr Slipper and for no legitimate forensic purpose”.

But in the application lodged with the court today, Mr Ashby states that the primary judge was wrong to find Mr Harmer intended to cause harm to Mr Slipper by including “irrelevant allegations”.

In a statement issued on behalf of Mr Ashby, his spokesman said that Mr Harmer of Harmers Workplace Lawyers would also be seeking leave to appeal on Monday.

“Justice Rares made separate and distinct findings regarding Mr Ashby and Mr Harmer, so each presently is being separately legally represented in this Application,” the spokesman said.

The hearing for Mr Ashby's application is set down for February 6.

AAP

I can't believe he's still there.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:28pm

john_g wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:21pm:

I hope aussies reading this.. when I said Feb...he went ballistic..

slippers cab charge"an irrelevant accusation.".hahahah

wonder if Rares has heard about slippers appearance on 15th Feb in court to answer questions on those same irrelevant cabcharges????

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:33pm

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

Feeling neglected again Matty/ mel?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:26pm

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

More like Howard or Abbott.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:31pm

john_g wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

I completely disagree, and as I said, I am an unbiased swing voter who voted Labor in that election.

Virtually 100% of people who voted for the Democrats believed that they had cast an iron clad vote against the GST.

The only true mandate from that election in my view was for the Dems to block the GST as they had guaranteed to their supporters that they would.

Not many of the people who had voted Democrat for around 2 decades ever forgave them and never voted for them again. This is the reason they are now extinct.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

More like Howard or Abbott.

I think gillard is more up to date though dont you??? more in peoples memories..

for people who dont like bringing up the past you sure know how to do it..
\
what the helll has Howard got to do with anything we may as well bring in keating and hawke.. There will be no POOR CHILDREN by the year 1990..

come on get over it,,

and as Abbott isnt PM he can more or less say anything.. its when your PM it counts..

of course we understand how you are feeling.. pretty low because you cant really counter anything, gillards performance has been horrendous...she supported both THOMO and then slipper..I bet she is beside herself now at least one of the has been charged to appear in court..if THOMO goes the same way what does it say about her judgement???

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Aussie on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:47pm

Quote:

I hope aussies reading this.. when I said Feb...he went ballistic..

So....I see you are adding misrepresentation and lying to your repertoire!

Carry on, cods.

;)

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:31pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

I completely disagree, and as I said, I am an unbiased swing voter who voted Labor in that election.

do you think the Greens especially in Tassy will go the same way??

dont forget the defection of Cheryl Kernot to the Labs that didnt do them a whole lot of good either..

background
After a few years' work experience at the helm of the Australian Democrats, Cheryl's big moment came in 1997 when she broke out of the play-pen of Australia's largest alternative, new-age political party to join her older siblings in the Labor Party.

She spent some time as a Labor MP exhibiting a desire to be Australia's 'Queen of Lattes', and a determination to be Labor's roving ambassador for all things baby-boomeresque.

This self-styled 'Babycino Princess' tried to win back the hearts and minds of the baby boomers and suckle them all the way to the next election.

At the time of Cheryl's defection the Democrats seemed more concerned about the threat from Pauline Hanson's One Nation.

Joining the Labour Party did not turn out to be Cheryl's wisest political move, even though she was briefly touted as a future Prime Minister.

The media turned up the heat. Yet, even revelations of a "deep and meaningful" relationship, for which read twenty-somethingish crush involving a schoolkid, didn't diminish her popularity with voters.

Her current affair was never mentioned even though this involved misleading Parliament.

As any American President will tell you, no one cares when you have sex with one or two people -- it's when try to screw the whole country that you run into problems.

Cheryl's autobiography launched on July 1, 2002 caused more fuss for what wasn't in it, rather than for what was.

It appears some Australian journalists think it acceptable for politicians to protect their privacy by misleading Parliament, yet get upset when a few years later, some truths are left out of a book for similar reasons.

Taking a leaf out of Mark Latham's book — I wouldn't even wipe my arse with the paper they write on.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:52pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:47pm:

Quote:

I hope aussies reading this.. when I said Feb...he went ballistic..

So....I see you are adding misrepresentation and lying to your repertoire!

Carry on, cods.

;)

ah you wont admit i was right antway.. but we never expect different from a loser...

however I dont care.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:47pm:

Quote:

I hope aussies reading this.. when I said Feb...he went ballistic..

So....I see you are adding misrepresentation and lying to your repertoire!

Carry on, cods.

;)

ah you wont admit i was right antway.. but we never expect different from a loser...

however I dont care.

And you just think yourself bloody lucky that the lovely cods is never rude abusive or derogatory to anyone on this forum,Aussie. :-?

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by Dnarever on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:09pm

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

One concern is that after Abbott and Turnbull Pyne could be next in line - probably no better, has already shown a weakness on honesty and been involved in some pretty grubby dealin

smacks of gillard.. ;D

More like Howard or Abbott.

[highlight]for people who dont like bringing up the past you sure know how to do it..

Not me I find the history interesting.

I think gillard is more up to date though dont you?

More up to date but much less relivant.

what the helll has Howard got to do with anything we may as well bring in keating and hawke.. There will be no POOR CHILDREN by the year 1990..

Most people are aware that Hawke got the quote wrong however I would prefer to see a leader fail trying to achieve something like this than to be telling lies about:

not introducing a GST or:

to lie about children being thrown overboard or:

to be appealing a court ruling that the government was abusing children in detention or:

telling lies about the waterfront dispute

and on and on and on.

Lie and disgraceful act one after the next Iraq War, Tampa, AWB, bail out of brothers company - on and on and on.

Interest rates will always be lower under a coalition government - ho ho ho

the brainwashed even believed him, every time every lie in every election campaign. Pages and pages of them one before the next one after the last on and on and on..

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:11pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:47pm:

Quote:

I hope aussies reading this.. when I said Feb...he went ballistic..

So....I see you are adding misrepresentation and lying to your repertoire!

Carry on, cods.

;)

ah you wont admit i was right antway.. but we never expect different from a loser...

however I dont care.

And you just think yourself bloody lucky that the lovely cods is never rude abusive or derogatory to anyone on this forum,Aussie. :-?

oh here we go.. pretending butter wouldnt melt in his mouth skippy only the foulest mouth on the forum..

telling someone else I am rude..LOL. hysterical..because I said i dont care... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D >:( >:(

dead horse language you like that dont you? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

:-* :-* :-* :-* just for you cods

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by cods on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

More like Howard or Abbott.

[highlight]for people who dont like bringing up the past you sure know how to do it..

Not me I find the history interesting.

I think gillard is more up to date though dont you?

More up to date but much less relivant.
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I DONT BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT... LESS RELIVANT OH MY GOD AND YOU ELECTECTED HER..
what the helll has Howard got to do with anything we may as well bring in keating and hawke.. There will be no POOR CHILDREN by the year 1990..

Most people are aware that Hawke got the quote wrong however I would prefer to see a leader fail trying to achieve something like this than to be telling lies about:

not introducing a GST or:

to lie about children being thrown overboard or:
no proof at all... and howmany children died

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU KEEP BRINGING THAT UP BUT I DONT FORGET CHRISTMAS ISLAND 2010

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Asylum tragedy: 27 confirmed dead
Twenty seven people have been confirmed dead after a boat carrying asylum seekers crashed into rocks on Christmas Island.

Smashed against 'razor-sharp' cliffs
'There was a lot of screaming'
Boat crashed in 'putrid' weather
'People hanging off the boat'
Official rescue under way
'Government to blame'
Another boat stopped
Rescuers have recovered 27 bodies from the wreckage of a boat that sank off Christmas Island this morning.

It was horrific mate, I saw a person dying in front of me and there was nothing we could do to save them.

Customs and Border Protection have just confirmed the number after an all-day search and rescue operation which is still ongoing. A further 41 people have been rescued, while another man made it to shore by himself.

SOMETHING I DONT THINK ANYONE WILL EVER FORGET AT LEAST THEY SHOULDNT

to be appealing a court ruling that the government was abusing children in detention or:

YOU MEAN HOWARD WAS WHIPPING THE CHILDREN?

LIKE WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED TO THEM HAD THEY BEEN SENT TO MALAYSIA

telling lies about the waterfront dispute

HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW QUITE THE WATERFRONT HAS BEEN.OR DOES THAT GO AGAINST THE GRAIN?
and on and on and on.

Lie and disgraceful act one after the next Iraq War, Tampa, AWB, bail out of brothers company - on and on and on.

Interest rates will always be lower under a coalition government - ho ho ho

the brainwashed even believed him, every time every lie in every election campaign. Pages and pages of them one before the next one after the last on and on and on..

YEAH RIGHT YOU KEEP ON BELIEVING THAT SUNSHINE..

HOWARD WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE DONT FORGET

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by skippy. on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:30pm

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:47pm:

Quote:

I hope aussies reading this.. when I said Feb...he went ballistic..

So....I see you are adding misrepresentation and lying to your repertoire!

Carry on, cods.

;)

ah you wont admit i was right antway.. but we never expect different from a loser...

however I dont care.

And you just think yourself bloody lucky that the lovely cods is never rude abusive or derogatory to anyone on this forum,Aussie. :-?

Nor is she a blind hypocrite, Aussie.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:32pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:31pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

The Coalition was elected in 1998, as simple as that.

I voted Labor, and presume you did too. That doesn't change the fact that the Coalition was elected.

I completely disagree, and as I said, I am an unbiased swing voter who voted Labor in that election.

thats exactly how I remember it too . Democrats went through the whole campain promising to never vote for Howards GST .... labor actually had a higher % of votes than the libs did, but the libs won more seat. ... not sure what John G calls a mandate, but I'm prety sure most reasonable people will agree that there is no mandate when over 50% of the vote goes against whatever it is you are proposing.

Title: Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Post by John Smith on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:37pm

TPP for 1998 was 51% Alp 49% to Libs ....

http://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/Newsfiles/1998/No_79.htm

contrary to popular belief, the democrats gave us the GST not Howard. It was Howard's baby, but it would never have happened if the democrats hadn't lied.