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Title: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:24pm
A good opinion piece by Miranda Devine...
When Julia Gillard toured fire ravaged parts of Tasmania on Monday she couldn’t resist opportunism - using the calamity to push a climate change agenda. “As a result of climate change we are going to see more extreme weather events,” she said. But the fact is Australia gets hot in summer - sometimes very hot - and if there is fuel on the ground it will burn. The more fuel, the wilder the fire. Tasmania is a petri dish, demonstrating the consequences of green ideology run rampant. No jobs, the forestry industry on its knees, and bushfires feasting on fuel built up over two mild fire seasons. Yet, instead of facing up to their errors, the Greens conveniently blame climate change. They pretend imposing a carbon tax or destroying the coal industry will prevent bushfires, while reducing the actual fuel which powers the flames is “futile”. Despite the lessons which should have been learned in Victoria in 2009, the fuel in Tasmania’s forests has been allowed to build up because of Green opposition to fuel reduction burns, which they call “outdated, old school” and a “horrible blight”. The state’s largest landholder, the Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Service, last year planned 36 fuel-reduction burns on 10,000ha, according to the Department of Primary industries 2011-12 annual report. That would have been less than 4 per cent of the 2.6 million hectares it manages. But it only managed to conduct 27 burns on 1927ha - less than 20 per cent of its target. In other words, prescribed burns were conducted on less than 1 per cent of land managed by the Parks and Wildlife Service. “If I pulled my hair out any more I wouldn’t have any,” laments Phil Cheney, Australia’s foremost expert on bushfire behaviour, now retired from the CSIRO. “It drives me to total frustration (that) governments are reluctant to spend money on preventative measures. They are great on helicopters flying around because it looks good. But they’re better off having a bit more smoke in the sky in autumn.” Cheney says to manage fire you need a scientifically prescribed regimen of strategic light burns in cooler months. That will reduce fuel loads which in turn reduces the power and intensity of bushfires. Cheney’s submission to the Victorian bushfires royal commission advocated strategic burning of 10 per cent of public land annually. The commission recommended an “annual rolling target of 5 per cent minimum of public land” - better than nothing. Forestry Tasmania and timber company Gunns used to carefully manage their bits of forest and ensure fuel loads were kept at reasonable levels in order to protect their investment. When fires inevitably broke out their logging contractors had the equipment, know-how, and manpower to lay firebreaks and control the flames. But the two organisations have been virtually destroyed by Greens determined to lock up forest as wilderness, ironically, all the better for total destruction by bushfire. Forestry Tasmania has been under fierce attack from Tasmania’s Labor-Greens Coalition government, which plans to split it in two and bring it under the control of the Environment Department. This victory for the Greens led to the resignation of Forestry Tasmania senior executive Ken Jeffreys last year after he sent a fiery email to staff saying the government planned “a public execution for Forestry Tasmania”. Gunns, once one of the best performing companies in Australia, has suffered an even worse fate, entering into voluntary administration in September after a relentless campaign of eco-terrorism and greenmail that led institutional investors to dump the shares - and Japanese customers to flee Tasmania. It’s been a complete victory for the Greens. Last year’s Tasmanian forestry “peace deal” was effectively their final triumph, and leaves in doubt the future of 200,000ha of plantation timber, most of which was owned by Gunns, which used to manage fire and pests in the forests. Ironically, as timber families are forced out of work, their bulldozers and excavators, which are so crucial to building firebreaks to contain and control bushfire, are being repossessed or sold - and Forestry Tasmania has none of its own. “You can fly around all you like in these helicopters, which lay a drop (of water) and go away,” says Cheney. “But after a point, a bulldozer is about the only effective way to contain fires.” In the end, the Tasmanian bushfires are a metaphor for the Green philosophy. Misguided virtue, carried out with ruthless disregard for fairness, property rights or human consequences, leads to a totalitarian mindset in which the original goals are abandoned. Saving trees? Nah. More trees and wombats have been destroyed in the past week in Tasmania than ever were turned into floorboards for Tokyo. It was all about destroying Gunns, and seizing political power. Well, congratulations Tasmania. Your Greens have delivered blackened graveyards where proud forests once stood. http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/mirandadevine/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/green_arrogance_burns_fiercely/ |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Maqqa on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:28pm
Greens too stupid to be anything but stupid
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Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:38pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:28pm:
The weather events of the past couple of years have contributed to this summer's fire threat. We had lots of rain (which promoted lots of growth in the bush) followed by lots of dry weather, which subsequently killed-off a lot of that new growth, thus creating an abundance of fuel for fires. In years gone by, local bush fire brigades would conduct hazard reduction burns to burn off this fuel source during the cooler months so that when summer came on, there was less fuel to feed a fire and subsequently the fires that did eventuate were less severe and thus easier to control. Everyone knows this - it's common sense. Everyone but the Greens, of course. The Greens virtually put an end to this practice, in effect making the approval process so difficult that barely any burn-off's occur anymore. The Greens have effectively become economic vandals thanks to their loony, half-baked policies. They may claim to want to save the trees and animals and environment, but their actions through their policies are seeing just the opposite happen. Greens policies are now costing Australian lives. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by rabbitoh07 on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:44pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:24pm:
I recognise those as English words - but I have never seen them put in that order before. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Kat on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:54pm rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:44pm:
Pig-ignorance and opinion passed-off as fact. That's ALL it is. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:58pm Kat wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:54pm:
That's a pretty good summation of the Greens. Couldn't have put it better myself! |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by the wise one on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:41am Kat wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:54pm:
That is the whole trouble with the news today. Journalist pass off their opinion as news instead of report the news. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Innocent bystander on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:49am
So you're saying that its better to have catastrophic bush fires than controlled burns then?
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Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Innocent bystander on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:50am
And are you also saying that a journalist quoting experts is just their opinion?
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Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Innocent bystander on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:51am
I think what some of you are trying to say is that you know SFA about anything so will just have to make idiotic comments instead.
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Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by gold_medal on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:35am John S wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:41am:
OPINION??? It was an article quoting EXPERTS. That makes it NOT an opinion peice. But congrats Greens... you burned down the forest. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by cods on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:37am Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:50am:
only if its bad news for the left.. if they call Abbott a misogynist...female hater.. then they have got it right.. its strange but you will see the words hypocrite and liar many times through out leftie posts... they just do not see themselves as others see them... pot calling the kettle black... then they lie about lying..never fails.. wait for it they havent said anything about New Ltd yet.......waaaaaaaaaaaait. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by cods on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:40am gold_medal wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:35am:
I just heard on the news the whole of Vic is on fire alert....please dont tell me all those villages that were burnt to the ground in 2009 are facing the same thing all over again??... didnt we all get told it would never happen again.. we have the tools... we have the knowledge..we have the ability..... well something like that, |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:54am cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:40am:
If only the Greens would allow hazard reduction burn-off's in the cooler months to lower the amount of fuel available now for these fires... |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10th, 2013 at 7:51am John S wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:41am:
Nah, that,s not half as funny as your usual crap wise one? You fail on the comedy routine this morning. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by KJT1981 on Jan 10th, 2013 at 7:54am Kat wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 10:54pm:
If I pulled my hair out any more I wouldn’t have any,” laments Phil Cheney, Australia’s foremost expert on bushfire behaviour, now retired from the CSIRO. Off course you would know more than Phil Cheney wouldn't you Casey Jones. |
Title: Re: Green arrogance burns fiercely Post by bigvicfella on Jan 10th, 2013 at 7:57am cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:40am:
We also have the Baillieu Liberal Government who have done NOTHING to prevent it happening again or implemented most of the recommendations from the findings of the previous investigation. We have some new statues and a couple of fountains though ::) |
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