http://i.imgur.com/v0NAc.jpg

when stuff like this is actually happening

my question: what the fck is causing this? this would never have happened fifty years ago

IMO; feminism could be causing this. 'nice guys' and omega male, sexless herbs have since feminism found it increasingly more and more difficult to get dates, driving them insane/up the wall. i bet this sort of thing *never* happens in middle eastern/islamic countries. this guy probably would have had a wife sixty years ago.

western society is demented. i am increasingly growing more and more weary, more and more bored with these culture warriors who laud the 'west'. our culture is broken and we need a team of dedicated sociologists and round the clock researchers to diagnose this problem. this image is emblematic of huge issues. something has fvked this kid up. i'm sure he's a nice guy, too. called 'creepy' by every woman around him he has ever been hit on. never been able to get a date, endlessly rejected, making it impossible for him to ever be able to live even semi-normally.

something is fvked. bring back arranged marriages imo for the time being, at least that might give this kid a chance at some happiness.

JC Denton wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

my question: what the fck is causing this? this would never have happened fifty years ago

There still would have been losers like this, only we had a useful tool called "S T I G M A" back then which would ensure he'd keep it on the downlow, lest he be seen as a laughing stock.  But having no father, (bet ya a million bucks he was raised by a single mum.  No wait - a Billion!) "tolerance" combined with internet attention-whoring, has created a perfect storm, and this is the result.

And he's not alone:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ttktWqz91rtcur5o1_1280.jpg

of course this has feminisms grubby hoofprints all over it.

Still, at least he's just playing with ponies rather than shooting up schools.  Sexless herbs can go either way though - remember that face, becasue if anything happens to his pony, his might be the face of the next mass shooter. 

What would "feminism" have to do with it? Stopping arranged marriages wasnt a feminism thing. It was a human rights thing. A civilisation thing.

SOB

i don't agree tbh.. i think this guy would be a laughing stock now. nobody outside a small circle of weridos on the internet would tolerate this. this guy has been fvked up; he's sexless and lonely and women probably hate his guts. sure he'd of still been weird seventy years ago but he'd of found a girl, had been married by 18 or so, never would have had his mind twisted to the point where he's "dating" a children's toy. i bet every girl he has hit on thinks he's a 'serial killer' or something. that's what fvked him up. now we've got all these 'empowered' women who ~dont need no man~ and are all waiting out for superman, guys like this are the no 1 casuality.

Same principle applies to dudes who are obsessed with cats. 

JC Denton wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

i don't agree tbh.. i think this guy would be a laughing stock now. nobody outside a small circle of weridos on the internet would tolerate this.

Oh poo yeah, but he doesn't need to go out and face the world when he has the internet.  he probably doesn't have any contact with anyone offline.

good point there too, though - the internet has made things worse as well. deadly concotion.

All th "isms" are involved.  Mulsticukltraism, feminism, cultural marxism - all are about fragmenting society, and atomising individuals.  Way back when he'd have a network of...not friends...but associates, neighbours etc that he'd have to navigate in everyday life, to keep him in check.  When all you've got is yourself and a cultivated group of online fruitcakes to enforce social norms, it's not going to turn out right.

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

All th "isms" are involved.  Mulsticukltraism, feminism, cultural marxism - all are about fragmenting society, and atomising individuals.  Way back when he'd have a network of...not friends...but associates, neighbours etc that he'd have to navigate in everyday life, to keep him in check.  When all you've got is yourself and a cultivated group of online fruitcakes to enforce social norms, it's not going to turn out right.

One of those rare moments when I agree 100% with Wes.

"internet attention-whoring"   Grrrrrrrrr!  >:(

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:14pm:

What would "feminism" have to do with it? Stopping arranged marriages wasnt a feminism thing. It was a human rights thing. A civilisation thing. SOB

A civilization thing?! Civilization existed while there were arranged marriages.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 1:14pm: What would "feminism" have to do with it? Stopping arranged marriages wasnt a feminism thing. It was a human rights thing. A civilisation thing. SOB A civilization thing?! Civilization existed while there were arranged marriages.

You could possibly even go further than that - Civilization existed BECAUSE of arranged marriages.
 
The premise in a nutshell being that in a polygynous society, beta males are non-productive because there is little incentive for them, since the women are monopolised by alphas.  Enforce monogamy, and you give betas (80+% of males) a chance at a mate, and something to strive for.  Theres a clear link betwen monogamy and prosperity:


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/monogamous-societies-superior-to-polygamous-societies/


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2010/07/monogamy-foundation-of-western-civilization/19293/

And funnily enough, we seem to be coming full circle - betas are once again being shut out as a result of feminist "empowerment".  That doesn't bode well for the west being the shining light to guide the world.....

*yes I know monogamy doesn't = arranged marriages, but it is a closely related rform of 'enforced monogamy"

any culture that does not accept whole cloth

1) race denialism or is irrelevanitsm
2) human 'rights', suffrage, democracy
3) homo-economism and the idea that people are interchangable, economic widgets

to any liberal, is not a civilization and could never be.

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:09pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 1:14pm: What would "feminism" have to do with it? Stopping arranged marriages wasnt a feminism thing. It was a human rights thing. A civilisation thing. SOB A civilization thing?! Civilization existed while there were arranged marriages. You could possibly even go further than that - Civilization existed BECAUSE of arranged marriages.   The premise in a nutshell being that in a polygynous society, beta males are non-productive because there is little incentive for them, since the women are monopolised by alphas.  Enforce monogamy, and you give betas (80+% of males) a chance at a mate, and something to strive for.  Theres a clear link betwen monogamy and prosperity: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/monogamous-societies-superior-to-polygamous-societies/ http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2010/07/monogamy-foundation-of-western-civilization/19293/ And funnily enough, we seem to be coming full circle - betas are once again being shut out as a result of feminist "empowerment".  That doesn't bode well for the west being the shining light to guide the world.....

betas are struggling, but they at the end of the day will (often begrudgingly) find a woman they can settle with. its the omegas who are *really* getting screwed by feminism. and omegas are like sticks of old dynamite. usually they're inert, but if you shake them up you're going to be scraping bodies off the street.

There's definitely been a feminisation or emasculation project going on the past few decades. Masculinity has been thoroughly degraded by Cultural Marxists. Its great success has been to paint masculinity as nothing but raw aggression, while ignoring masculinity's other areas like the will to self-discipline and will to self-responsibility. By painting masculinity as something that leads to murder, racism, sexism, slavery, imperialism, rape etc etc (rather than showing how it lead to almost every advance made in the arts and sciences), they have tried, and have been successful in many areas, to reduce men to domesticated house pets.

I think men have to be careful, though, when they try and forge their way out of this labyrinth of self-flagellation. There is the tendency to embrace raw force and start beating the sh*t out of things (think Fight Club) as a way of re-embracing masculine principles. I would suggest that even courses be taught (whether publicly or privately funded, or done through charity) on what masculinity is and how to re-embrace it gracefully. Because, I believe that sublimation is the key masculine tool. Men have achieved so much by sublimating their aggression into their hobbies, tasks, and goals. Such a course would be one in how to control and re-take their own souls, rather than a course based purely around lambasting 'power structures.' Because, I believe the major difference between feminism and masculinity is that the former posits blame for their condition on the 'other,' whereas the latter own their condition and then take on the self-responsibility to change it.

In the long run, masculinity in society would re-emerge when the men have actually been turned back into men, rather than doing the feminist approach of legislating for change then magically expecting there to be change.

JC Denton wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 2:33pm:

betas are struggling, but they at the end of the day will (often begrudgingly) find a woman they can settle with. its the omegas who are *really* getting screwed by feminism.

yeah, but solid definitions are so hard to come by.  Betas will find a wife (who will probably divorce them and take the loot) and they'll live a generally content, albeit slightly unhappy and unfulfilling life, but nothing so bad they need to shoot up a school. 

It is the omegas that are the real poor sods. Maybe the feminists could do something to help them considering they like to help the 'oppressed'? Not bloody likely.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 2:37pm:

There's definitely been a feminisation or emasculation project going on the past few decades. Masculinity has been thoroughly degraded by Cultural Marxists. Its great success has been to paint masculinity as nothing but raw aggression, while ignoring masculinity's other areas like the will to self-discipline and will to self-responsibility. By painting masculinity as something that leads to murder, racism, sexism, slavery, imperialism, rape etc etc (rather than showing how it lead to almost every advance made in the arts and sciences), they have tried, and have been successful in many areas, to reduce men to domesticated house pets. I think men have to be careful, though, when they try and forge their way out of this labyrinth of self-flagellation. There is the tendency to embrace raw force and start beating the sh*t out of things (think Fight Club) as a way of re-embracing masculine principles. I would suggest that even courses be taught (whether publicly or privately funded, or done through charity) on what masculinity is and how to re-embrace it gracefully. Because, I believe that sublimation is the key masculine tool. Men have achieved so much by sublimating their aggression into their hobbies, tasks, and goals. Such a course would be one in how to control and re-take their own souls, rather than a course based purely around lambasting 'power structures.' Because, I believe the major difference between feminism and masculinity is that the former posits blame for their condition on the 'other,' whereas the latter own their condition and then take on the self-responsibility to change it. In the long run, masculinity in society would re-emerge when the men have actually been turned back into men, rather than doing the feminist approach of legislating for change then magically expecting there to be change.

i dont know if its just feminisation. theres a lot of guys out there - betas and the omegas, who are unattractive to women. connecting them with women and getting them mates helps social cohesion/improves happiness. male superiority, legislatively and socially, was an aid to working around the natural unattractiveness of betas/omegas in the past. female empowerment in employment has meant women are less dependent upon men for their livelihoods, reducing the demand for beta male providers and allowing them to attempt to pursue alphas while still having the resources needed to live. the worst problem is the denial of sexual access to omegas, who are bombs just waiting to go off, as wesley himself has pointed out.

i'm starting to understand the islamic worlds take on gender relations a lot more clearly now.

Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB

Someone married you didn't they?

For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman. 

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.

You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB

You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work?

I really believe men don't really need women that much. A bloke needs to clean his pipes out every now and again if you know what I mean. I nice meal when he comes home from work is great too. But having a whinging missus is a real pain in the ass. Kids are a pain in the ass too. Set me up in a big house with a huge screened TV , a stereo and guitar and an asian nurse a couple of times a week and I'm right to go. Anybody else have any thoughts on the issue?

mist, jc and rob,  re men reclaiming their masculinity.

a mob used to run 'wild man " weekends on a farm not far from me on the weekend.
i never really knew what they were up to but there was a lot of drumming and running around the campfire naked , followed by burial in the dirt (some sort of back to earth experience).
is this sort of stuff , in any way legit, or just new age rubbish  :D :D :D :D

my daughters thought it was hilarious , so id dont know if it impresses the ladies

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

mist, jc and rob,  re men reclaiming their masculinity. a mob used to run 'wild man " weekends on a farm not far from me on the weekend. i never really knew what they were up to but there was a lot of drumming and running around the campfire naked , followed by burial in the dirt (some sort of back to earth experience). is this sort of stuff , in any way legit, or just new age rubbish  :D :D :D :D my daughters thought it was hilarious , so id dont know if it impresses the ladies

Sounds a bit gay!!! The naked part is a bit iffy.

Big Dave wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:54pm:

I really believe men don't really need women that much.

Just like a women needs a man like fish need a bicycle?

Following that sentiment didn't make the ladies happy, so I don't think it's ideal for men either.  We all need each other to play their part. 

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

mist, jc and rob,  re men reclaiming their masculinity. a mob used to run 'wild man " weekends on a farm not far from me on the weekend. i never really knew what they were up to but there was a lot of drumming and running around the campfire naked , followed by burial in the dirt (some sort of back to earth experience). is this sort of stuff , in any way legit, or just new age rubbish  :D :D :D :D my daughters thought it was hilarious , so id dont know if it impresses the ladies

I'd put it in the new age rubbish bin, but it does show that males are unfulfilled - they yearn for something, but they're just not sure what.   

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:00pm:

Big Dave wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:54pm: I really believe men don't really need women that much. Just like a women needs a man like fish need a bicycle? Following that sentiment didn't make the ladies happy, so I don't think it's ideal for men either.  We all need each other to play their part.

I suppose you are right Rob. There's a definate wedge between many men and women these days. It's a pity.

Big Dave wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:00pm: Big Dave wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:54pm: I really believe men don't really need women that much. Just like a women needs a man like fish need a bicycle? Following that sentiment didn't make the ladies happy, so I don't think it's ideal for men either.  We all need each other to play their part.  I suppose you are right Rob. There's a definate wedge between many men and women these days. It's a pity.

A great pity indeed.  Men and Women have always had their own little niches, spaces and roles, and we got along alright.  Not perfectly, but alright.  But now we're all being thrown in together and homogenised under the banner of "equality" and it's got us at each others throats. 

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work?

Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages.

SOB

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

Big Dave wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:09pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:00pm: Big Dave wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:54pm: I really believe men don't really need women that much. Just like a women needs a man like fish need a bicycle? Following that sentiment didn't make the ladies happy, so I don't think it's ideal for men either.  We all need each other to play their part.  I suppose you are right Rob. There's a definate wedge between many men and women these days. It's a pity. A great pity indeed.  Men and Women have always had their own little niches, spaces and roles, and we got along alright.  Not perfectly, but alright.  But now we're all being thrown in together and homogenised under the banner of "equality" and it's got us at each others throats.

Maybe you because you like your women in burkas but the rest of us get along fine.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:32pm:

... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB

Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin?

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin?

You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:35pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin? You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt. SOB

You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world. 

I do not judge. 

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:59pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:35pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin? You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt. SOB You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world.  I do not judge.

BS. Im poo pooing your wanting to put women back in the middle ages.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:11pm:

... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:02pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:59pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:35pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin? You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt. SOB You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world.  I do not judge.  BS. Im poo pooing your wanting to put women back in the middle ages. SOB

It doesn't only affect women, poo-for-brains.  There's (at least) 1 man in every marriage.  Why don't they matter?

Interesting that you see most of the world (all the non-white parts really) as "in the middle ages". 

What a rayciss arsehole.  >:(

Quote:

You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world.

Quote:

BS. Im poo pooing your wanting to put women back in the middle ages.

a distinction without a difference

Big Dave wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:54pm:

I really believe men don't really need women that much. A bloke needs to clean his pipes out every now and again if you know what I mean. I nice meal when he comes home from work is great too. But having a whinging missus is a real pain in the ass. Kids are a pain in the ass too. Set me up in a big house with a huge screened TV , a stereo and guitar and an asian nurse a couple of times a week and I'm right to go. Anybody else have any thoughts on the issue?

I tend to agree. It's not for everybody.
Maybe for somebody spectacular it might be worth it, but let's face it, both men and women are generally not very sexually attractive to each other anymore.
If you keep yourself physically fit, then I think at the very least, a decent shaped bum is deserved.

The advantages of not marrying for men are greater, IMO, in that there are far more things besides relationships that we find interesting. Women are generally fairly limited in that department.

Some men (quite a lot) just go through the motions of getting married into what will most probably end up being a waste of time and effort because they've been told that this is what society expects of them.

Marriage is absolutely a raw deal for men, so it's funny that feminidiots still talk about it as O-pression.  Do they not ever stop to ask themselves "If it' so O-pressive why is it always the woman who pushes for it?"  Every man I know, including myself only put a ring on that finger because of prolonged subtle and not-so-subtle pressure from the missus.  It's like the most high pressure salesperson you've ever met, talking you into making the most costly deal of your life.

But, we still all need to get along somewhat.  The current, western model of marriage isn't it, but the future of the human race depends on some kind of arrangement between us.  But that arrangement has to be worked out organically, at the grass roots level, because It's ideological meddling that's buggered it up.

Well there are those women who marry men who earn less than themselves I suppose.....aren't there?
In that case, they would be getting a raw deal in the event of a marriage breakdown.

... wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:11pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:02pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:59pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:35pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin? You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt. SOB You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world.  I do not judge.  BS. Im poo pooing your wanting to put women back in the middle ages. SOB It doesn't only affect women, poo-for-brains.  There's (at least) 1 man in every marriage.  Why don't they matter? Interesting that you see most of the world (all the non-white parts really) as "in the middle ages".  What a rayciss arsehole.  >:(

Trying to turn this around on me is a lil dishonest dont you think? You know full well you were the one suggesting we "bring back" forced marriages so that guy with the stuffed toy could have a wife.

SOB

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

mist, jc and rob,  re men reclaiming their masculinity. a mob used to run 'wild man " weekends on a farm not far from me on the weekend. i never really knew what they were up to but there was a lot of drumming and running around the campfire naked , followed by burial in the dirt (some sort of back to earth experience). is this sort of stuff , in any way legit, or just new age rubbish  :D :D :D :D my daughters thought it was hilarious , so id dont know if it impresses the ladies

look you guys are really pizzzzzzing me off..

I have always known my childhood was sheltered.. it was the times..I was 17 before I heard the word lesbian. it took a while for the understanding part to come in..

now you are showing me everything else I missed along the way..

I have always wondered how the other half live.. but in my wildest nightmares nothing like this ever dawned on me..

look what I have been missing...its sad..


funny but sad.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 5:51am:

... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:14pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:11pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:02pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:59pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:35pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin? You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt. SOB You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world.  I do not judge.  BS. Im poo pooing your wanting to put women back in the middle ages. SOB It doesn't only affect women, poo-for-brains.  There's (at least) 1 man in every marriage.  Why don't they matter? Interesting that you see most of the world (all the non-white parts really) as "in the middle ages".  What a rayciss arsehole.  >:( Trying to turn this around on me is a lil dishonest dont you think? You know full well you were the one suggesting we "bring back" forced marriages so that guy with the stuffed toy could have a wife. SOB

Not at all,  but speaking of dishonesty...It's a lil dishonest to call arranged marriages "forced" don't you think?  Quite why you think it's OK to rubbish the cultural practices of most of the world is anyone's guess.  But if you're happy being a racist arsehole, and happy for guys like this to keep shooting up schools, so be it.  Nobody ever said you were smart.

Besides, there's a grotesque fattie somewhere who'd be over the moon to marry a guy like him. 

wasnt there a show on TV called Please MARRRY MY SON..how weird is that?..

he could really only marry a women his mother liked and/or who liked her..

so is that arranged or forced???

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 10:10am:

wasnt there a show on TV called Please MARRRY MY SON..how weird is that?.. he could really only marry a women his mother liked and/or who liked her.. so is that arranged or forced???

Good point.  There's a slew of shows like that.  The bachelor/bachelorette have been going for a fair few seasons I think.

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11th, 2013 at 5:51am: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:14pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:11pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 6:02pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 5:59pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:35pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 4:32pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:28pm: ... wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 3:07pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10th, 2013 at 2:59pm: Seriously you ppl should listen to yourselves. What about the friggin women? They wouldn't want to marry that guy. SOB Someone married you didn't they? For every omega, theres an equally unimpressive specimen of woman.  You are talking about forcing them to marry him though. Is that how it happened for you? I cant imagine any other way any woman would marry you. Was your marriage arranged? SOB You're the indian, why don't you tell me how arranged marriages work? Yeah so you decided to go obscure rather than deal with the suffering you were saying you want for women with forced marriages. SOB Arranged marriages are far more common than the disney-inspired marriage for love we take for granted in the west.  What are you - some kind of white supremacist racist troll or sumthin? You are the one that mentioned race - i didnt. SOB You're the one poo-pooing the cultural practices of most of the world.  I do not judge.  BS. Im poo pooing your wanting to put women back in the middle ages. SOB It doesn't only affect women, poo-for-brains.  There's (at least) 1 man in every marriage.  Why don't they matter? Interesting that you see most of the world (all the non-white parts really) as "in the middle ages".  What a rayciss arsehole.  >:( Trying to turn this around on me is a lil dishonest dont you think? You know full well you were the one suggesting we "bring back" forced marriages so that guy with the stuffed toy could have a wife. SOB Not at all,  but speaking of dishonesty...It's a lil dishonest to call arranged marriages "forced" don't you think?  Quite why you think it's OK to rubbish the cultural practices of most of the world is anyone's guess.  But if you're happy being a racist arsehole, and happy for guys like this to keep shooting up schools, so be it.  Nobody ever said you were smart. Besides, there's a grotesque fattie somewhere who'd be over the moon to marry a guy like him.

you obviously arent going to address the fact that you said arranged marriages should be brought back so that guy could have a wife. Its pretty obvious it would have to be forced. @ least the female would have to be forced. Thats okay though huh.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

you obviously arent going to address the fact that you said arranged marriages should be brought back so that guy could have a wife. Its pretty obvious it would have to be forced. @ least the female would have to be forced. Thats okay though huh. SOB

What's to address?  It's something to be considered, do I really have to repeat myself?

What should be addressed is why you think marriage is such a raw deal for women? This is the sort of woman he'd be suitable for: 

http://www.thedistractionnetwork.com/images/uglygirlwithbignose1.jpeg

As if they're gonna do any better - it's either an arranged marriage to their low-quality counterpart or dying alone with no heirs.  I would have thought you'd be more supportive of losers rights. 

 

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11th, 2013 at 11:18am: you obviously arent going to address the fact that you said arranged marriages should be brought back so that guy could have a wife. Its pretty obvious it would have to be forced. @ least the female would have to be forced. Thats okay though huh. SOB What's to address?  It's something to be considered, do I really have to repeat myself? What should be addressed is why you think marriage is such a raw deal for women? This is the sort of woman he'd be suitable for:  http://www.thedistractionnetwork.com/images/uglygirlwithbignose1.jpeg As if they're gonna do any better - it's either an arranged marriage to their low-quality counterpart or dying alone with no heirs.  I would have thought you'd be more supportive of losers rights.

Its the women that lose out in arranged marriages.

What exactly are you saying is wrong with that woman BTW? Do you know her? Know if she has a disability or is dressed for a fancy dress party or something?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:01pm:

... wrote on Jan 11th, 2013 at 11:23am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11th, 2013 at 11:18am: you obviously arent going to address the fact that you said arranged marriages should be brought back so that guy could have a wife. Its pretty obvious it would have to be forced. @ least the female would have to be forced. Thats okay though huh. SOB What's to address?  It's something to be considered, do I really have to repeat myself? What should be addressed is why you think marriage is such a raw deal for women? This is the sort of woman he'd be suitable for:  http://www.thedistractionnetwork.com/images/uglygirlwithbignose1.jpeg As if they're gonna do any better - it's either an arranged marriage to their low-quality counterpart or dying alone with no heirs.  I would have thought you'd be more supportive of losers rights.    Its the women that lose out in arranged marriages.

Perhaps, but it's the men who lose out in un-arranged marriages.  So, a mix of the 2 gives the most fair and balanced outcome for both sexes. 


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What exactly are you saying is wrong with that woman BTW? Do you know her? Know if she has a disability or is dressed for a fancy dress party or something?

LOL.  What's wrong with her?

http://www.thedistractionnetwork.com/images/uglygirlwithbignose1.jpeg



errr....nothing.  nothing at all.... :-X

What exactly are you saying is wrong with that woman BTW? Do you know her? Know if she has a disability or is dressed for a fancy dress party or something?

SOB

If she has a disability  than you  have found your perfect match plus you get a free two  honeymoon in Islamabad all expenses paid.

Mr. Paulson, are you seriously suggesting that poor guy should be arranged to that (assuming it's not a fake) woman?
He'd be pining for his sparklehorse every day.
He may only be a makeover and a boot camp away from being a decent catch but that woman (?) is beyond help.
He'd need a penthouse mag in one hand and a chuck bucket in the other for when he has to face what he's just done.

And what if she can't even cook, won't clean, and is a nag to boot?
Then what if after 20yrs of working his butt off for her, she decides she wants her independence?

Surely that comes under the heading of "Cruel and unusual punishment"?

Amadd wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 2:28pm:

Mr. Paulson, are you seriously suggesting that poor guy should be arranged to that (assuming it's not a fake) woman? He'd be pining for his sparklehorse every day. He may only be a makeover and a boot camp away from being a decent catch but that woman (?) is beyond help. He'd need a penthouse mag in one hand and a chuck bucket in the other for when he has to face what he's just done. And what if she can't even cook, won't clean, and is a nag to boot? Then what if after 20yrs of working his butt off for her, she decides she wants her independence? Surely that comes under the heading of "Cruel and unusual punishment"?

Hey, if it stops dudes shooting up kindergartens, it'd be worth it.  Besides, no one said he had to bugger her, they could live more or less like room mates, and he could have a discrete affair with the pony.

I don't know if there is a relationship between sleeping with toy horses and shooting up kindergartens  :-/
I do know that there is a relationship between failed marriages and shooting up families and suicides.

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:07pm:

Perhaps, but it's the men who lose out in un-arranged marriages.

how?

SOB

Amadd wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

I don't know if there is a relationship between sleeping with toy horses and shooting up kindergartens

Nar...but once the honeymoon is over with the pony and the sex dries up, who knows how he'll express his frustration?

100.00% of rampage killers are omegas who can't get laid.  That's gotta tell you something.

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

What exactly are you saying is wrong with that woman BTW? Do you know her? Know if she has a disability or is dressed for a fancy dress party or something? SOB If she has a disability  than you  have found your perfect match plus you get a free two  honeymoon in Islamabad all expenses paid.

Obviously trolling is what you do.

SOB

I should state that just legalising prostitution would be a much easier fix for the mass killer issue. 
Maybe even put it on medicare list of approved therapies. 

bugger knows why it's illegal anyway.

It's legal here. Not on the medicare list, but I've heard it can be tax deductible in certain circumstances.

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

I should state that just legalising prostitution would be a much easier fix for the mass killer issue.  Maybe even put it on medicare list of approved therapies.  bugger knows why it's illegal anyway.

What? I dont think its illegal mate . . . .

SOB

I dunno what the laws are, but I know they make it as difficult as possible with all kinds of restrictions. 

What's the big dam deal - we all pay for pussy, some are just more upfront about it than others.      

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Maybe even put it on medicare list of approved therapies.

this is a great idea imo. 'at risk' omega males can  get government subsidised/payed for access to high quality female escorts.

JC Denton wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 3:41am:

Quote: Maybe even put it on medicare list of approved therapies. this is a great idea imo. 'at risk' omega males can  get government subsidised/payed for access to high quality female escorts.

THOMO  will vote that in for sure..

slippermmmmmmmmmm well maybe.with a change here and there/

JC Denton wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 3:41am:

Quote: Maybe even put it on medicare list of approved therapies. this is a great idea imo. 'at risk' omega males can  get government subsidised/payed for access to high quality female escorts.

If this ever happens, remind me to buy some shares in the sparklehorse company.

JC Denton wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 3:41am:

Quote: Maybe even put it on medicare list of approved therapies. this is a great idea imo. 'at risk' omega males can  get government subsidised/payed for access to high quality female escorts.

Whoa!  let's not go overboard.  Why should they get better than the rest of us?