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Title: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 6:05pm
Women … are angry with ourselves for not being happier, not being loved properly and not having the ideal body shape — that of a Brazilian transsexual.’
— Suzanne Moore One of these days, not too far away, the entire bourgeois bien-pensant left will self-immolate entirely leaving behind nothing but a thin skein of smoke smelling slightly of goji berries. Please let that day come quickly. In the meantime let us simply enjoy ourselves watching them tear each other to pieces, mired in their competing victimhoods, seething with acquired sensitivity, with inchoate rage and fury, inventing more and more hate crimes with which they might punish people who are not themselves. That quote above comes from the very talented feminist writer Suzanne Moore. It is a sentence from a piece she wrote for the New Statesman. You would not believe the trouble it has caused. The Twittersphere immediately started roaring like a pre-menstrual velociraptor, there were demands for an apology and a rebuttal, there was a somewhat robust defence of the original sentence and then, as a consequence, a government minister called for the editor of an august — well, not quite august, more like late June — national newspaper to resign. The debate is still howling around. It may be — in terms of national importance — nothing more than 5,000 bald women and bald quasi-women arguing over a comb. But it gives you an insight into the metro left’s bizarre psychosis. Oh, and it’s fun, it’s fun. It’s certainly that. That anodyne sentence above, which is presumably meant to express the pressure women feel to conform to a particular body-type, was taken amiss by Britain’s vibrant community of transsexuals. They eviscerated Moore for doing what I just did and referring to them as transsexuals rather than transsexual people, but also stuck the boot in by suggesting that the writer was mocking their gender, was perhaps bullying them. Undoubtedly, they asserted online and later in print, this was evidence of deviance — not sexual deviance, but deviation from political correct orthodoxy; Moore was revealing an inner hatred of transsexual people. And she was cissexist. Now there’s a term. Have you heard it before? I hadn’t. It is a wonderful day when we can stumble across a new hate crime of which we might all one day be accused: cissexism is the suspicion that transsexual people’s ‘identified gender’ is somehow less genuine than that of people born to the gender in which they remain. Are you guilty of cissexism? You bastard. Tunnel The fugue of hatred poured down upon Moore, but to her credit she disdained what we might call an apology. Instead, she tweeted: ‘People can just bugger off really. Cut their dicks off and be more feminist than me. Good for them.’ You see, there is a scintilla of mistrust between traditional feminists like Moore and these arriviste liberationists — arriviste in a physical sense, at least. As you might imagine, this tweet did not placate Ms Moore’s tormentors. It made things worse. The trannies went ballistic; they threw their toys out of the pram. And that was before they read the piece written by Moore’s friend and ideological soulmate, Julie Burchill. One very witty commentator online put it thus: ‘Julie Burchill poured oil on troubled waters. Then she put some seabirds in the oil. Then she set fire to the oil.’ Describing the transsexuals as ‘screaming mimis’ and ‘bedwetters in bad wigs’, Julie concluded her defence of Suzanne Moore with the following wonderful sentence: ‘To have your cock cut off and then plead special privileges as women — above natural-born women, who don’t know the meaning of suffering, apparently — is a bit like the old definition of chutzpah: the boy who killed his parents and then asked the jury for clemency on the grounds he was an orphan.’ She wrote that in the Observer — easily the best piece the paper has carried in a decade. At which point the government got involved. No, it really did. Its most idiotic minister, the Liberal Democrat Lynne Featherstone — again utilising that conduit for the shriekingly self-obsessed and vapid, Twitter — described Burchill’s article as ‘bigoted vomit’ and suggested that both she and the editor of the Observer, a man called John Mulholland, should be sacked immediately. Should government ministers do that sort of thing, demand the sacking of newspaper editors? Even if they are incalculably stupid ministers with a track record of saying incalculably stupid things? She is the minister for International Development these days, Featherstone, so it is not even part of her brief. Although I suppose it is part of her brief as a non-cissexist heterosexual woman, in a very real sense. How did Mr Mulholland respond? Did this titan of the press, this staunch and stoic defender of freedom of speech stand by his columnist? Um, not exactly. He instead apologised for having run Julie Burchill’s article and within the hour the piece had been expunged from the joint Guardian-Observer website, no trace of it remaining. But in making his apology Mulholland did say that the Observer supported freedom of speech and did so terribly bravely sometimes. Just, er, not this time. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 6:11pm
heheheh. they can try to hide the contradcitions inherent in their world views, but they'll always bubble to the surface eventually. All you can do is sit back, and watch them tear each other aprt.
Gotta side with the fmeinists on this one though - trannies are messed up people. their delusions should never have been indulged in the first place. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 8:27pm
Julie Burchill's article, since deleted by the Observer - but here republished by the London Telegraph.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100198116/here-is-julie-burchills-censored-observer-article/ The brilliant writer Suzanne Moore and I go back a long way. I first met her when she was a young single mother living in a council flat; she took me out to interview me about my novel Ambition (re-published by Corvus Books this spring, since you ask) for dear dead City Limits magazine. "I’ve got an entertaining budget of £12.50!" she said proudly. "Sod that, we’re having lobster and champagne at Frederick’s, and I’m paying," I told her. Half a bottle of Bolly later, she looked at me with faraway eyes: "Ooo, I could get to like this…’ And so she did. I have observed her rise to the forefront of this country’s great polemicists with a whole lot of pride – and just a tiny bit of envy. I am godmother to her three brilliant, beautiful daughters. Though we differ on certain issues we will have each others backs till the sacred cows come home. With this in mind, I was incredulous to read that my friend was being monstered on Twitter, to the extent that she had quit it, for supposedly picking on a minority – transsexuals. Though I imagine it to be something akin to being savaged by a dead sheep, as Denis Healey had it of Geoffrey Howe, I nevertheless felt indignant that a woman of such style and substance should be driven from her chosen mode of time-wasting by a bunch of dicks in chick’s clothing. To my mind – I have given cool-headed consideration to the matter – a gaggle of transsexuals telling Suzanne Moore how to write looks a lot like how I’d imagine the Black & White Minstrels telling Usain Bolt how to run would look. That rude and ridic. Here’s what happened. In a book of essays called Red: The Waterstones Anthology, Suzanne contributed a piece about women’s anger. She wrote that, amongst other things, women were angry about "not having the ideal body shape – that of a Brazilian transsexual". Rather than join her in decrying the idea that every broad should aim to look like an oven-ready porn star, the very vociferous transsexual lobby and their grim groupies picked on the messenger instead. I must say that my only experience of the trans lobby thus far was hearing about the vile way they have persecuted another of my friends, the veteran women’s rights and anti-domestic violence activist Julie Bindel, picketing events where she is speaking about such minor issues as the rape of children and the trafficking of women just because she refuses to accept that their relationship with their phantom limb is the most pressing problem that women – real and imagined – are facing right now. Similarly, Suzanne’s original piece was about the real horror of the bigger picture – how the savagery of a few old Etonians is having real, ruinous effects on the lives of the weakest members of our society, many of whom happen to be women. The reaction of the trans lobby reminded me very much of those wretched inner-city kids who shoot another inner-city kid dead in a fast-food shop for not showing him enough ‘respect’. Ignore the real enemy – they’re strong and will need real effort and organization to fight. How much easier to lash out at those who are conveniently close to hand! But they’d rather argue over semantics. To be fair, after having one’s nuts taken off (see what I did there?)) by endless decades in academia, it’s all most of them are fit to do. Educated beyond all common sense and honesty, it was a hoot to see the screaming-mimis accuse Suze of white feminist privilege; it may have been this which made her finally respond in the subsequent salty language she employed to answer her Twitter critics: "People can just bugger off really. Cut their dicks off and be more feminist than me. Good for them." She, the other JB and I are part of the tiny minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that’s a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as ‘Cis’ – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they’re lucky I’m not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have, we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs. It’s been noted before that cyberspace, though supposedly all new and shiny, is plagued by the age old boredom of men telling women not to talk, and threatening them will all kinds of nastiness if they persist in saying what they feel. The trans lobby are now saying that it wasn’t so much the initial piece as Suzanne’s refusal to apologise when told to that "made" them drive her from Twitter. Presumably she is meant to do this in the name of solidarity and the "struggle" – though I find it very hard to imagine this mob struggling with anything apart from the English language and the concept of free speech. To have your cock cut off and then plead special privileges as women – above natural-born women, who don’t know the meaning of suffering, apparently – is a bit like the old definition of chutzpah: the boy who killed his parents and then asked the jury for clemency on the grounds he was an orphan. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 8:30pm
Shims, shemales, whatever you’re calling yourselves these days – don't threaten or bully we lowly natural-born women, I warn you. We may not have as many lovely big swinging Phds as you, but we’ve experienced a lifetime of PMT and sexual harassment, and many of us are now staring HRT and the menopause straight in the face – and still not flinching. Trust me, you ain’t seen nothing yet. You really won’t like us when we’re angry.
Julie Burchill is the Christopher Hitchens of feminism. I really like her (if I may be permitted to say such a thing about a feminist, being a mere lesbian trapped in a man's body). |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by mantra on Jan 24th, 2013 at 4:55am Quote:
No surprise there. The press have to adhere to political correctness or else they'll have Human Rights to answer to. Quote:
Minorities now have an equal voice and we have to live with it whether we like it or not. Free speech has gone forever. Abnormal people don't exist anymore - neither do normal people. We're all equal - mutated or not. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Jan 24th, 2013 at 7:58am
"Competing victimhoods" indeed. Often minority groups compete to convince others who is the most oppressed. That way they get the most pity and public funding.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 24th, 2013 at 2:08pm
The trannies and the wimmin have been bitching for years. Germain Greer puts it down to conflicting notions of gender.
Hardline transsexuals say they're women trapped in men's bodies, or men trapped in women's bodies. Hardline feminists say gender is a social construct. Can both be right? As a devout PB and softcock gender-studies enthusiast, I'd like to offer my support as a mediator. Surely we can all agree on something - right, gang? Perhaps the trannies could agree that they're men or women trapped within the ideological interstices of power and gender. And the wimmin could agree that, yes, Jimmy Choo should put out some of his sassier creations in a size 13. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by aquascoot on Jan 24th, 2013 at 7:26pm Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 2:08pm:
there was a time when i thought i was a man trapped in a womans body. then i was born |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:01pm
As long as I remember, I have been a lesbian trapped in a man's body. I feel unvalidated.
Who will speak for me?? Nobody. Lesbians trapped in men's bodies are invisible. This is the next frontier, I tell you. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:33pm
oh oh we have an error...
missing post!! warning!! maybe this one will shove the other one where it ought to be |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:33pm
hmmmmm
where did my post go?? don't tell me I'm being censored.. ;D |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:39pm
I find the title a peculiarly incompatible group of words....
your premise is that 'victims' are actively competing for sympathy and support, at the expense of other victims. By banding together as a lobby group ...against other lobby groups, .. ::) Particular 'types' of 'victims', too. Multi-sexual victims. !!. Further , that they are virtually at each others 'throats'. What a bizarre topic... I mean your premise may be true... how would I know?? ;D ;D Well it is definitely on the right board... but what , why ??? HOW?? could you come up with this idea for a topic. ??? Different,, and funny even. :) :-? |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:39pm
::)
just kidding ;D found it after all.. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:41pm
I completely agree, old chap. In fact, I’d like to use you as a case study for the paper. I’d just like to say up front, as it were, that there’s nothing abnormal about what you do with, er, women. It might not be considered tasteful in polite company, but I think it’s completely, you know, natural. We all have our little quirks, and you should not be ashamed of you are inside yourself.
Yes, old boy, others may chastise you for being, well, heteronormative, but I, for one, will always support you no matter what. After all, we know that you can’t help who you are deep down. Chin up, old chap. Best to get straight back on the horse, what. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 24th, 2013 at 10:17pm Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 9:41pm:
Well that's why Queen Victoria didn't recognise 'lesbianism' - don't you know old chap.. :) perfectly natural and not needful of a label. No doubt if she had been King Victor, he would have felt the same way about 'man love'. :) please define 'victimhoods' ... that might spread a little light in the muck. 8-) |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:56am Emma wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 10:17pm:
Someone who is overly sensitive and believes all their problems are due to being "oppressed" by an "other." |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:54pm
no no
victimhoods means more than one..... and it's not even a proper word...hence my request for a definition... your poor effort doesn't do it. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:21pm Emma wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:54pm:
This was a catfight between feminists (Moore, Burchill) who made remarks about transsexual "women" (men who cut off their own d!cks and pretend to be women). The latter took umbridge. At issue: they say that these feminists (a victim category) are victimising them. Trannies want to be woman victims on speed. The women, rightly, told them to get a grip (except, being d!ckless blokes pretending to be 'women', they don't actually have anything to grip). Who is right? Who has the proper claim to special consideration? More importantly, can biological women withhold feminist endorsement (victimhood status) from men who happened to have cut off their d!cks and are now pretending to be even more sensitive to feminist issues than actual women. At heart - what makes a woman? Is it really nothing more than lack of a penis??? The d!ckless wonders want to enforce this line. The natural born women want to maintain gender difference based on BIOLOGY! How fooking topsy-turvy is THAT??? Women insisting on biological difference! |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:51pm
well for a start Soren
I don't see feminists as victims,..... you call them victims. And your posts re the issue(s) you are covering.. the trans-sexuals vs real women... and the actual protagonists you refer to, are a minute part of the reality of life. Gender is various. You seem confused in your apprehension of womanhood. No woman would suggest there are not biological differences... that's simply absurd.! Why you think women don't understand this is a mystery to me. And possibly, if you think about it, to you. Women are just as varied in their opinions as men... we are all human.... tho that broad category just isn't enough for you, it seems, as you go on and on about women being this and that, and its all just garbage really.. Feminists aren't victims, altho many of them may well have been subject to physical, verbal, psychological and institutional abuse because of their gender. You just can't lump people into comfortable groups of stereotypes...it is silly. :) Namaste :) . |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:36am
Feminists set themselves up as victims. Feminism is predicated on the belief women are controlled and defined by a patriarchy. The major drive of feminism is to break free of this control.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:33am Emma wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:51pm:
Exactly right. But you try telling them that. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:36am Soren wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:21pm:
Biologically, female is defined by having the bigger sex cells (eggs are many times bigger than sperm) Thus no eggs, you're not female and never will be. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Kat on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:41am Collectively, they'd make great rose-fertiliser. Not much use for anything else..... |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:15pm Emma wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:51pm:
Be still, my beating heart. Mind - take over for a little minute. The article, and the controversy, is about women who know what it is to be women on the one hand, and men who have cut off their d!cks and so want the privileges of the oppressed and disadvantaged that comes with being a woman in a hetronormative, phallocentric, sexist society such as ours, on the other hand. Can a d!ckless bloke be as much of a woman as you, to put it as crudely as I can. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:53pm
Ok we'll stick with the stoush of the multisexuals.
The short answer?? YES. Shocked?? Males and females do not think the same.. agreed>? Because??? there are different hormonal imperatives, to put it as simply as possible. The brain works differently between males and females.. to put it simply. It is known, I understand, that given certain circumstances during the conception and gestational period of a fetus, typical gender determining processes can become disrupted.. and a fetus which should have been female, is born male. For example. Now... if that disruption resulted in the male child having the characteristics of a female child, in mind and/or body,.. if the child is so affected as to know there was a problem, instinctively, and this imbalance is actively corrected through surgery and hormone treatment, THEN, I see no difference... she would be as female as I. Well thats my opinion anyway.. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:05pm
The article, and the controversy, is about women who know what it is to be women on the one hand, and men who have cut off their d!cks and so want the privileges of the oppressed and disadvantaged that comes with being a woman in a hetronormative, phallocentric, sexist society such as ours, .....
[/quote] Good grief Charley Brown.... the PRIVILEGES ............................................that comes with being a woman in.........................???? Que?? what privileges, ?? what a joke.... Oh you mean like the privilege of being raped, like virtually all women have... like in India... THEN blamed.?? The privilege of working for unequal pay, or no pay.. ?? any more PRIVILEGES you can think of??? oppressed and disadvantaged, yeah? Like... when I hear people whinging because they think first Australians, and now ironically newest Australians are getting much too much .... handed on a plate/....... and I ask them.... So, you'd really prefer to be one of them.. then, because they have it so good.??? What a bad sad joke. :( |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:31pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:56am:
Gee. Now where have we heard that before? Ah, yes. We used to have a poster here, went by the name of Bolshie. Everything was caused by these chaps called leftists. War, famine, weather. They were a sort of a demonic signifier for all the evils in the world. He once called them a hydra. He worked at a uni, Mistie. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:41pm Emma wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:53pm:
What a load of biologically determinist tosh. Gender is a socially constructed ideological phenomenon. It consists of power and knowledge (to put it crudely). We at the Faculty of Pakistani and Post Colonial Queer Studies will not truck with such empiricist, hegemonic male ideology. You really need to read Deluze, dear. Get with the program. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:42pm
Bolshie didn't believe in victimhood. He only saw opportunities and potentialities.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:46pm
How do you get oppressed by a 'social construction'?
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:48pm
True, only he didn’t see any possibilities or opportunities. All he did was whine about leftists. What do youthink about people like Bolshie, Mistie?
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:51pm
yeah well you two's opinions aside... i'm asking Soren. He's not on ...
and your comments are meaningless twaddle . |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:57pm Karnal wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:48pm:
Bolshie felt such a glorious feeling when he lambasted leftists. He only wished they put up a better fight. The stronger the opposition, the more glorious the overcoming is. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:09am
ah a self-confessed sadist ...
nothing like kicking people when they're down is there?... ask the Rights... it's the fave game. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:32am Emma wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:51pm:
That’s what they used to say about condoms. If it’s not on, it’s not on. I think the old boy would make a marvellous condom - used, spent and left in the sheets for the maid to clean up in the morning. He hasn’t been the same since the accident, dear. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:41am
thats right kick 'm when they're down.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:58am
Survival of the fittest, innit. Will to power. The old boy’s only using up precious space, intertextually speaking.
Typical leftist response to support the weak and inferior. Bolshie would have a few things to say about that. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:25am
oh yes ...definitely survival of the fittest on this forum.
or survival of the the thickest skinned or survival of the dumbest or survival of the stubbornest or survival of the blindest, or most obtuse, or stupidest stubbornest microbrain. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:31am
You nailed it, Emma.
O brave new world, with such things in’t. You’ve just summed it up. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 27th, 2013 at 10:04am Emma wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:05pm:
Virtually all women have been raped? :o |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2013 at 10:26am
The spinsters and lesbians, no. Women who’ve had sex with men (WWHSWM), yes.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by JC Denton on Jan 27th, 2013 at 11:31am
all sex is rape
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:26pm
Don’t knock it, Imperium. It’s the only way the old boy’s ever going to get any human contact.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Jan 29th, 2013 at 9:38pm Emma wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 9:53pm:
If hormones determine either sex's behaviour so much - how can equality be demanded with a straight face?? Why not demand equal levels of hormones in everyone's blood?? ANd then we can tlk about equality. It's no good to demand equality and then at the first challenge say 'oh, but we have different hormones and we are determined by those hormones'! Women are either fully self determined (and so forget the hormones) or they are hormone-determined (and so forget the claim to full self-determination). Or excuse everything men do that you don't like and put it all down to male hormones. Either we are all victims or none of us ae. You can't be jumping in and out of doors as it suits your political aims. Freedom means you own your hormones, not hide behind them. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 29th, 2013 at 11:54pm
Right you are, old chap. I’ll have to use that one at the next faculty meeting.
Jolly good show. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by iceyone on Jan 30th, 2013 at 1:03pm
Imagine being a black, lesbian, Jewish, woman - the baggage involved!
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 30th, 2013 at 1:07pm Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jan 30th, 2013 at 1:03pm:
Forget the baggage - think of the freebies! |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2013 at 1:19pm
Think of the hormones!
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2013 at 7:57pm Emma wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:05pm:
Good grief Charley Brown.... the PRIVILEGES ....oppressed and disadvantaged, yeah? [b]Like... when I hear people whinging because they think first Australians, and now ironically newest Australians are getting much too much .... handed on a plate/....... and I ask them.... So, you'd really prefer to be one of them.. then, because they have it so good.??? What a bad sad joke. :( [/quote] I can only repeat my previous comment. Are you JEALOUS??? ;D ;D |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2013 at 10:20pm
Come on, hon, don’t be like that.
Think of the hormones. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2013 at 10:41pm
do you know how to make a whore moan???
this is a really bad joke... so I won't tell the answer on here. :P |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 30th, 2013 at 10:45pm
don't pay her.
But you gave it away with the spelling. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2013 at 11:11pm
well Roberta.... if you know the answer,,, put it up.... then I might give you some cred.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 30th, 2013 at 11:22pm
Already did you muppet.
... wrote on Jan 30th, 2013 at 10:45pm:
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2013 at 11:42pm
no you didn't fool.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2013 at 11:43pm
in fact.... there is NO WAY you answered .... muppet.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 31st, 2013 at 8:55am
Q.How do you make a hormone?
A. Dont pay her. It's not an original joke you crazy clown. :D :D :D |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 31st, 2013 at 8:55am
He paid you, love.
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2013 at 4:42pm ... wrote on Jan 31st, 2013 at 8:55am:
Oh no no --you have the wrong joke..... that isn't the answer I have. :) 8-) |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 31st, 2013 at 4:53pm
it is until you decide to post "the" answer.
What kind of a doofus posts a joke but won't tell the answer? |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Kat on Jan 31st, 2013 at 5:16pm
I think I know.
But, just in case I'm right, like Emma I won't be posting the answer either. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Jan 31st, 2013 at 5:19pm
oh you think you know? farcanal do you guys even know how jokes work?
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2013 at 6:07pm
yeah Kat...if it is anything like the 'punchline' I was told,, it's not something to post. Of course the curious could always PM me.
I still think it'll shock the 5hit out these curious silly smart-asses. 8-) Considering the nature of the Man who told it to me.... my ex. Not a 'nice' man. 8-) |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2013 at 6:27pm
yep..it's all about masculinity.
My ex-boss happened to briefly meet my ex-hubby. She said to me,.... wide-eyed, and slightly envious... Your husband is really masculine isn't he? Really male. :o I said something to the effect.... ' uh yeahhh he is certainly that'. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Jan 31st, 2013 at 9:21pm ... wrote on Jan 31st, 2013 at 5:19pm:
The name’s Karnal. Corporal Karnal to you. Are any of you old ladies willing to match the old boy’s intelligent analysis of this subject? Or are you content to stand around complaining about the weather? And yes, I’m surprised too. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2013 at 5:43am
my neighbour barry is on hormones to change him into a woman.
yesterday i asked him how the treatment was going. "no change yet" he said as he reversed out his driveway, into my car, and then drove off |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Robert Paulson on Feb 1st, 2013 at 10:42am
Q.What's the differnce between an onion and a dead hooker?
A: I can't tell you becasue someone might find it too shocking. rest assured it's funny though. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Karnal on Feb 1st, 2013 at 4:18pm ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2013 at 10:42am:
No one has the right not to be shocked. You should consider that before you try not offending person/s. |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Soren on Feb 6th, 2013 at 12:34pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:36am:
The Myth of Misogyny Stephen Buckle Women’s historically unequal social status is systematically misunderstood by feminist theory. Status, women’s status included, is best explained by reference to the pressing problems a society needs to solve to preserve itself and flourish. Simply put, those who are recognised to represent the solution to society’s problems enjoy high status, while those who are dependent on the problem-solvers suffer lower status. This explanation completely sidesteps the commonplace feminist explanations in terms of sexism, misogyny, and so on. Social worlds are never ideal—but we have been trapped, by our own lack of imagination, into regarding them as therefore malign. The rest here: http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2013/1-2/the-myth-of-misogyny |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by FriYAY on Feb 6th, 2013 at 2:02pm
Q. How od you make a whore moan?
A. kick her in the cunX |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Feb 6th, 2013 at 8:56pm
hey you got the ANSWER.!!!!
Crikey.. maybe I knew you once upon a time.... :o :o :o |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by John Smith on Feb 6th, 2013 at 9:02pm ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2013 at 10:42am:
an onion has many layers whereas a hooker just gets laid ... ... |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by John Smith on Feb 6th, 2013 at 9:02pm Emma wrote on Feb 6th, 2013 at 8:56pm:
you're not suggesting he kicked you there are you????? :o |
Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Emma Peel on Feb 6th, 2013 at 10:09pm
funny haha ::)
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Title: Re: competing victimhoods seething Post by Morning Mist on Feb 6th, 2013 at 10:36pm Soren wrote on Feb 6th, 2013 at 12:34pm:
Not a bad article that one, not bad at all. |
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