That the arrival of the boat people makes no difference to the number of people accepted into the community - that boat people are just subtracted from those accepted from overseas' camps.

The difference is the cost, overseas' refugees have already been processed and the poorer, in camps, had already waited a long time..

Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases.

Did you miss the memo??????????

Tone's gone positive, its dams for the north now NOT detention centres.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

Then there is the worry about terrorism ...

So, rather than fly into our country as a tourist (with a valid visa and passport) and just walk straight out into the community, you think terrorists would prefer to risk their lives in a boat, enter as unauthorised arrivals and then be detained & subjected to security checks?

Why, exactly, do you think they would do that?   :-/


olde.sault wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

Then there is the worry about ... diseases.

Unauthorised arrivals (boat people) are detained (isolated from the public) and then given comprehensive health checks.

Visitors/tourists from other countries, arriving by plane, are not.

Your worry certainly seems to be misplaced.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Then there is the worry about terrorism ... So, rather than fly into our country as a tourist (with a valid visa and passport) and just walk straight out into the community, you think terrorists would prefer to risk their lives in a boat, enter as unauthorised arrivals and then be detained & subjected to security checks? Why, exactly, do you think they would do that?   :-/ olde.sault wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Then there is the worry about ... diseases. Unauthorised arrivals (boat people) are detained and then given comprehensive health checks. Visitors/tourists from other countries, arriving by plane, are not. Your worry certainly seems to be misplaced.

Just shows that they know that our government is stupid. I guess most of them are also stupid, three didn't even know that Nauru was an island, tried to escape.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Did you miss the memo?????????? Tone's gone positive, its dams for the north now NOT detention centres.

Well, mate, the boats are still arriving so it is still a topic.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases.

maybe in your own head it's a worry .... I don't think to many others are losing sleep over it. When was the last time a (overstaying) tourist was given a health check?

I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention.

Horrible, horrible old woman.

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention.

"The department has a comprehensive process for checking the health of unauthorised arrivals. An initial health assessment is conducted to identify conditions that will require attention. This assessment includes the collection of personal and medical history, a physical examination and formalised mental health screening and assessment."

http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 3:18pm: I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. "The department has a comprehensive process for checking the health of unauthorised arrivals. An initial health assessment is conducted to identify conditions that will require attention. This assessment includes the collection of personal and medical history, a physical examination and formalised mental health screening and assessment." http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf

quite right, they are looked after by international medical solutions,
an extremely high priced american health provider.
any specialist treatment or tests are fast tracked and fully funded.
they truly recieve medicare gold +++
they immediately jump queues over all australian citizens.
they are priority number 1.
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 3:18pm: I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. "The department has a comprehensive process for checking the health of unauthorised arrivals. An initial health assessment is conducted to identify conditions that will require attention. This assessment includes the collection of personal and medical history, a physical examination and formalised mental health screening and assessment." http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf quite right, they are looked after by international medical solutions, an extremely high priced american health provider. any specialist treatment or tests are fast tracked and fully funded. they truly recieve medicare gold +++ they immediately jump queues over all australian citizens. they are priority number 1. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Makes you wonder why the OP said:

"Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases."

:-/

Too much talk-back radio and Bolty I guess.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 4:53pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 3:18pm: I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. "The department has a comprehensive process for checking the health of unauthorised arrivals. An initial health assessment is conducted to identify conditions that will require attention. This assessment includes the collection of personal and medical history, a physical examination and formalised mental health screening and assessment." http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/asylumfacts.pdf quite right, they are looked after by international medical solutions, an extremely high priced american health provider. any specialist treatment or tests are fast tracked and fully funded. they truly recieve medicare gold +++ they immediately jump queues over all australian citizens. they are priority number 1. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) Makes you wonder why the OP said: "Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases." :-/ Too much talk-back radio and Bolty I guess.

the worry is about the waste of precious resources.

there is also the fact that some diseases such as TB which are very common in asia and the middle east, can lie dormant for 20, 30, 40 years and reactivate when other illnesses occur. there is NO way to prevent this (short of turning everyone around)

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

there is also the fact that some diseases such as TB which are very common in asia and the middle east, can lie dormant for 20, 30, 40 years and reactivate when other illnesses occur. there is NO way to prevent this (short of turning everyone around)

We have people arriving on planes every day from Asia and the Middle East.

Better get yourself out to the airport and stop them.

To all those complaining about 'boat people'.

Tell us your stories about how you have been personally affected by boat people.

Do you have any living next door?
Have you lost your job?
Do they get between you and your next beer?
Have you worked with any?
Have you been personally introduced to one?

Personal experiences, please.
None of that mates, wifes, cousins, GGgrandfathers second wifes third cousin stuff.
Real, first hand experiences.

;)

Don't want stories about those who came by plane.
Just boat people.
:)

The relevant UN convention is silent on the ability to charge these boat people a fee or entry surcharge. Why not hit them with a AUD$100,000 establishment fee or charge them the same amount to enter Australia? No money means a quick flight back to the country of origin.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:58pm: there is also the fact that some diseases such as TB which are very common in asia and the middle east, can lie dormant for 20, 30, 40 years and reactivate when other illnesses occur. there is NO way to prevent this (short of turning everyone around) We have people arriving on planes every day from Asia and the Middle East. Better get yourself out to the airport and stop them.

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highly unlikely someone would spend 30 years in an airport waiting for their tb to become infectious again

Lobo wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

To all those complaining about 'boat people'. Tell us your stories about how you have been personally affected by boat people. Do you have any living next door? Have you lost your job? Do they get between you and your next beer? Have you worked with any? Have you been personally introduced to one? Personal experiences, please. None of that mates, wifes, cousins, GGgrandfathers second wifes third cousin stuff. Real, first hand experiences. ;) Don't want stories about those who came by plane. Just boat people. :)

local mental health service had 2 psychologists pulled from general duties and not available for other referals.only to see refugees with ptsd

grade 1 at woodridge primary school had 12 non english speaking children who took up a lot of resources to the detriment of other students

sudanese feud in street near my place of work led to a maori teenager being run over and killed.

afghan driving the wrong way thru a roundabout in woodridge cleaned up someone i know, no insurance

sengalese and tamil doctor i work with had almost a punch up in the tea room. :D :D :D :D

Good start, I suppose, but remind me not to come live in your neighbourhood.

I am presuming that these are ALL 'boat people' that you are referring to and NOT assisted migrants.

I must live in a lucky area, as we have ALL these groups you mention and none of the fuss.

I DO have problems with the sons and daughters of my Aussie friends staggering home, wasted, from the pub on Thur Fri and Sat nights.
One instance of mates son, pissed, wrapping his dads car around a tree and killing two of his mates.
Another dill  know drove his car along wrong side of rode nearly collecting me as I was coming out of my driveway. Can absolutely guarantee he wont do that again. Not near me anyway.

I could go on, but I think you get my drift.

I'm still interested in hearing any first hand stories though.

:)

You aren't confusing your Sudanese feud with this incident, are you?
---------------
Maori and Pacific leaders in Brisbane have met with African leaders after the hit-and-run death of a Maori teenager.
Jordan Tukaki was killed outside a party in the suburb of Logan at the weekend, and there are fears there could be revenge attacks.
Just two weeks before his 18th birthday, Mr Tukaki was run down and killed at a Brisbane birthday party that had become out of control.
A 21-year-old from Sierra Leone has been charged with his murder and there are now fears it could escalate into a race war.


Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Tension-in-Brisbane-over-Maori-death/tabid/417/articleID/279179/Default.aspx#ixzz2LFA0gFtN

:)
If so, it makes the rest of your 'personal experiences' a bit sus....

Live/work at Logan, hey???

:)

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 5:02pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:58pm: there is also the fact that some diseases such as TB which are very common in asia and the middle east, can lie dormant for 20, 30, 40 years and reactivate when other illnesses occur. there is NO way to prevent this (short of turning everyone around) We have people arriving on planes every day from Asia and the Middle East. Better get yourself out to the airport and stop them. 0 highly unlikely someone would spend 30 years in an airport waiting for their tb to become infectious again

So whats the difference? No matter how they travel nobody is going to wait 30 years.

SOB

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

Lobo wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:08pm: To all those complaining about 'boat people'. Tell us your stories about how you have been personally affected by boat people. Do you have any living next door? Have you lost your job? Do they get between you and your next beer? Have you worked with any? Have you been personally introduced to one? Personal experiences, please. None of that mates, wifes, cousins, GGgrandfathers second wifes third cousin stuff. Real, first hand experiences. ;) Don't want stories about those who came by plane. Just boat people. :) local mental health service had 2 psychologists pulled from general duties and not available for other referals.only to see refugees with ptsd grade 1 at woodridge primary school had 12 non english speaking children who took up a lot of resources to the detriment of other students sudanese feud in street near my place of work led to a maori teenager being run over and killed. afghan driving the wrong way thru a roundabout in woodridge cleaned up someone i know, no insurance sengalese and tamil doctor i work with had almost a punch up in the tea room. :D :D :D :D

How do you know any of those ppl came by boat and not plane?

SOB

Lobo wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 8:05pm:

You aren't confusing your Sudanese feud with this incident, are you? --------------- Maori and Pacific leaders in Brisbane have met with African leaders after the hit-and-run death of a Maori teenager. Jordan Tukaki was killed outside a party in the suburb of Logan at the weekend, and there are fears there could be revenge attacks. Just two weeks before his 18th birthday, Mr Tukaki was run down and killed at a Brisbane birthday party that had become out of control. A 21-year-old from Sierra Leone has been charged with his murder and there are now fears it could escalate into a race war. Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Tension-in-Brisbane-over-Maori-death/tabid/417/articleID/279179/Default.aspx#ixzz2LFA0gFtN :) If so, it makes the rest of your 'personal experiences' a bit sus.... Live/work at Logan, hey??? :)

dont live there,
though i have worked there for 24 years now.
i dont discriminate between economic up graders whether they come by boat, plane or swim here.

the do gooder f wits in canberra always dump the whole lot of them in the suburbs with the poorest and most red neck of citizens. they always dump them where there is already enormous competition for charity, housing schooling etc.

the hypocrites who LOVE the migrants usually live in richer suburbs and drive through logan with their windows wound up  >:( >:(

i doubt tools you see on shows like Q and A have ever spoken to a sudanese, a somali, an afghan, an iraqi.
probably not an aborigine either.

as they are totally talking through their ars*es, i couldnt give a flying f#ck what their opinions are ;) ;) ;)

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases. maybe in your own head it's a worry .... I don't think to many others are losing sleep over it. When was the last time a (overstaying) tourist was given a health check? I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention.

I guess you missed the news article where a government worker contracted TB...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 6:45am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 3:18pm: olde.sault wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:48pm: Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases. maybe in your own head it's a worry .... I don't think to many others are losing sleep over it. When was the last time a (overstaying) tourist was given a health check? I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. I guess you missed the news article where a government worker contracted TB...

and again, the only 2 groups who recieve free testing (mantoux) and free vaccination (bcg)  are aboriginals and migrants from certain geographic locations.

want to be tested yourself or vacinated...you pay

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

[quote author=John_Smith link=1361162897/5#5 date=1361164717] I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention.

Then how come that a worker employed at  a detention centre was infected with TB?

From what I heard, boat people's health checks aren't very thorough.

Had any air arrivals spread such a disease?

Best to keep boat people out of the country.

As for the galah who says a terrorist wouldn't risk his life in a boat.

That is almost funny - they sure must value their lives if they mean to commit suicide. Anyway, they don 't even have the sense to realise sea dangers.

Lunatics!

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

Lobo wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:08pm: To all those complaining about 'boat people'. Tell us your stories about how you have been personally affected by boat people. Not too bright, are you? They cost us billions because they are given TVs, cigarettes and better accommdation than the families who camp on the streets because they have lost jobs and homes because of JuLiar's fraudulent carbon tax Do you have any living next door? Have you lost your job? Do they get between you and your next beer? Have you worked with any? Have you been personally introduced to one? Personal experiences, please. None of that mates, wifes, cousins, GGgrandfathers second wifes third cousin stuff. Real, first hand experiences. ;) Don't want stories about those who came by plane. Just boat people. :) local mental health service had 2 psychologists pulled from general duties and not available for other referals.only to see refugees with ptsd grade 1 at woodridge primary school had 12 non english speaking children who took up a lot of resources to the detriment of other students sudanese feud in street near my place of work led to a maori teenager being run over and killed. afghan driving the wrong way thru a roundabout in woodridge cleaned up someone i know, no insurance sengalese and tamil doctor i work with had almost a punch up in the tea room. :D :D :D :D

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1361162897/5#5 date=1361164717] I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. Then how come that a worker employed at  a detention centre was infected with TB? From what I heard, boat people's health checks aren't very thorough. Had any air arrivals spread such a disease? Best to keep boat people out of the country. As for the galah who says a terrorist wouldn't risk his life in a boat. That is almost funny - they sure must value their lives if they mean to commit suicide. Anyway, they don 't even have the sense to realise sea dangers. Lunatics!

How do you think wine and bird flu get around? Plane.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:27am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1361162897/5#5 date=1361164717] I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. Then how come that a worker employed at  a detention centre was infected with TB? From what I heard, boat people's health checks aren't very thorough. Had any air arrivals spread such a disease? Best to keep boat people out of the country. As for the galah who says a terrorist wouldn't risk his life in a boat. That is almost funny - they sure must value their lives if they mean to commit suicide. Anyway, they don 't even have the sense to realise sea dangers. Lunatics! How do you think wine and bird flu get around? Plane. SOB

Thank you, Spot, I enjoyed that.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1361162897/5#5 date=1361164717] I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. Then how come that a worker employed at  a detention centre was infected with TB? From what I heard, boat people's health checks aren't very thorough. Had any air arrivals spread such a disease? Best to keep boat people out of the country. As for the galah who says a terrorist wouldn't risk his life in a boat. That is almost funny - they sure must value their lives if they mean to commit suicide. Anyway, they don 't even have the sense to realise sea dangers. Lunatics!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-leNf6VRGuww/TZOFwIlk-9I/AAAAAAAACK4/msVBuCf9zAo/s400/181148-triple_facepalm_super.jpg

Asylum seekers do come from sh*t parts of the world and tend to cause both health scares with infections and also law and order issues.

Somali youths have been found in Melbourne to be EIGHT TIMES more likely to have run-ins with the police than their Australian counterparts.

It's because they have no law and order where they come from so think nothing of running loose when they are set free in Australia.

Personally I wouldn't allow in any ethnic Africans at all. They are more trouble than what they are worth.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:27am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1361162897/5#5 date=1361164717] I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. Then how come that a worker employed at  a detention centre was infected with TB? From what I heard, boat people's health checks aren't very thorough. Had any air arrivals spread such a disease? Best to keep boat people out of the country. As for the galah who says a terrorist wouldn't risk his life in a boat. That is almost funny - they sure must value their lives if they mean to commit suicide. Anyway, they don 't even have the sense to realise sea dangers. Lunatics! How do you think wine and bird flu get around? Plane. SOB

Still trying to work out the wine connection.

Why would a bird catch a plane when they can fly Miss Borg?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:40am:

Asylum seekers do come from sh*t parts of the world ...

Ya think?!   ::)

KJT1981 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:20am: olde.sault wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:27am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 4:41pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1361162897/5#5 date=1361164717] I'll bet every single asylum seeker gets checked while in detention. Then how come that a worker employed at  a detention centre was infected with TB? From what I heard, boat people's health checks aren't very thorough. Had any air arrivals spread such a disease? Best to keep boat people out of the country. As for the galah who says a terrorist wouldn't risk his life in a boat. That is almost funny - they sure must value their lives if they mean to commit suicide. Anyway, they don 't even have the sense to realise sea dangers. Lunatics! How do you think wine and bird flu get around? Plane. SOB Still trying to work out the wine connection. Why would a bird catch a plane when they can fly Miss Borg?

Go away troll

SOB

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:40am: Asylum seekers do come from sh*t parts of the world ... Ya think?!   ::)

Yep so why make other people's problem our problem?
Do you accept in other people's rubbish into your house as a rule?

Asylum and the refugee problem has the age-old "Push" v "Pull" areas to it.

The push factor - war, famine, regime change etc is outside of Australia's influence and ability to do anything.

Therefore what we need to do as a country is address the pull factor.
You won't change the fact there are these people, what you do is make it harder, less attractive for Australia as a place for them to go.

Literally kick the can further down the road - they will still be a problem, you just make them someone's else's problem.

That's what France does in pushing them all through the Channel ports and on to England.

Therefore, Australia could easily take the following steps -

1) Make the Australian mainland the ONLY place where asylum is able to be sought. Remove Christmas Island and the outlying territories and all of a sudden the journey by rickety boat get that much tougher. They can get to Christmas Island, getting to the mainland is not so easy.

2) Immediate detention for a minimum 5 years before processing to ensure there is less of a security risk. If people know they will be in detention for 5 years before they are even seen, it may make them think.

3) No recourse whatsoever for families to join them. If they are so in danger, then leaving their families behind may not be something they want to do - and again will make them think of somewhere else.

4) No ability to become permanent residents. If they are an asylum seeker, then they can remain one in Australia and as soon as their country is deemed returned to normal, they are removed and put back there.


Like I said, the pull factors are all that can be addressed and if you make the country tougher, harder and less attractive you may see the inclination to go to Australia less so and for them to consider heading to Europe or other places.

That's my take on the world anyway.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:49am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:40am: Asylum seekers do come from sh*t parts of the world ... Ya think?!   ::) Do you accept in other people's rubbish into your house as a rule?

We're not talking about rubbish, we're talking about human beings.

And we're not talking about my house, we're talking about Australia.

Stay focused and stop trying to change the subject.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:20pm: Lobo wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:08pm: To all those complaining about 'boat people'. Tell us your stories about how you have been personally affected by boat people. Not too bright, are you? They cost us billions because they are given TVs, cigarettes and better accommdation than the families who camp on the streets because they have lost jobs and homes because of JuLiar's fraudulent carbon tax Do you have any living next door? Have you lost your job? Do they get between you and your next beer? Have you worked with any? Have you been personally introduced to one? Personal experiences, please. None of that mates, wifes, cousins, GGgrandfathers second wifes third cousin stuff. Real, first hand experiences. ;) Don't want stories about those who came by plane. Just boat people. :) local mental health service had 2 psychologists pulled from general duties and not available for other referals.only to see refugees with ptsd grade 1 at woodridge primary school had 12 non english speaking children who took up a lot of resources to the detriment of other students sudanese feud in street near my place of work led to a maori teenager being run over and killed. afghan driving the wrong way thru a roundabout in woodridge cleaned up someone i know, no insurance sengalese and tamil doctor i work with had almost a punch up in the tea room. :D :D :D :D

I doubt any of these are 'personal' experiences, olde.sault, as at least three were reported in local and daily newspapers.
I will give the benefit of the doubt to the "almost punch-up" as being from personal experience.
I did notice, olde.sault, that you weren't forthcoming with any experiences.

After all, if you can't trust the word of a MB poster, what can you trust??

;)

Andrei demonstrates once again his total lack of human feelings.

Put them in a concentration camp for five years. Watch them go mad, harm themselves, commit suicide. Great sport.

Lobo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:33am: aquascoot wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:20pm: Lobo wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 7:08pm: To all those complaining about 'boat people'. Tell us your stories about how you have been personally affected by boat people. Not too bright, are you? They cost us billions because they are given TVs, cigarettes and better accommdation than the families who camp on the streets because they have lost jobs and homes because of JuLiar's fraudulent carbon tax Do you have any living next door? Have you lost your job? Do they get between you and your next beer? Have you worked with any? Have you been personally introduced to one? Personal experiences, please. None of that mates, wifes, cousins, GGgrandfathers second wifes third cousin stuff. Real, first hand experiences. ;) Don't want stories about those who came by plane. Just boat people. :) local mental health service had 2 psychologists pulled from general duties and not available for other referals.only to see refugees with ptsd grade 1 at woodridge primary school had 12 non english speaking children who took up a lot of resources to the detriment of other students sudanese feud in street near my place of work led to a maori teenager being run over and killed. afghan driving the wrong way thru a roundabout in woodridge cleaned up someone i know, no insurance sengalese and tamil doctor i work with had almost a punch up in the tea room. :D :D :D :D I doubt any of these are 'personal' experiences, olde.sault, as at least three were reported in local and daily newspapers. I will give the benefit of the doubt to the "almost punch-up" as being from personal experience. I did notice, olde.sault, that you weren't forthcoming with any experiences. After all, if you can't trust the word of a MB poster, what can you trust?? ;)

for that froggie i'll give you another one.

2011, family living in housing comission in kingston ,logan.
i wont give you the exact address.
well known family in logan, true bogans with lots of relatives in the area.
relatives of theirs from goodna got flooded. come and stay , including a family in a caravan in the back yard.
dont declare the "new housemates " to qld housing commision"

evicted for this (fairly harsh but rules is rules)

replaced with an african family (alright , not strictly boaties)

now how do you think this goes for creating harmony in a suburb full of "not very intelligent " people.

do you think these sort of incidents are perhaps A LITTLE F"ING STUPID in terms of promoting racial harmony.  evicting flood victims with 100's of relatives in the area and installing a family of noobs.

you gotta be kidding me.

the racial riots in douglas street,
the aboriginal family that were moved out of the street because of riots with a samoan family down the street .

replaced with another aboriginal family.

you couldnt make up policies as crazy as these.
;) ;) ;)

anyway , over to you, lets hear about the assylum seeker problems in toorak and double bay.
oh thats right, governments dont put people where the chattering classes live.  how odd  ;) ;)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:40am:

Asylum seekers do come from sh*t parts of the world and tend to cause both health scares with infections and also law and order issues. Somali youths have been found in Melbourne to be EIGHT TIMES more likely to have run-ins with the police than their Australian counterparts. It's because they have no law and order where they come from so think nothing of running loose when they are set free in Australia. Personally I wouldn't allow in any ethnic Africans at all. They are more trouble than what they are worth.

All true of course, and it rocks the lefty asylum seeker supporters world, a world where one believes that every single useless front bottom from the ME and Africa comes here and starts a wonderful new beginning when in fact all they do is just pick up where they left off and scrounge or commit crime to survive.
Thats why they try to to ban people like Geert Wilders coming here to warn us that 66% of Moroccan youth in his country has been arrested at least one time.

How many Moroccans seek asylum in Australia?

Peter Freedman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

How many Moroccans seek asylum in Australia?

Probably not many but you could guarantee they are over represented in crime statistics just as our beloved Sudanese are, grossly over represented in fact, of course you will just go into idiot lefty defcon 4 mode and blame Australia for failing to integrate them.
Funniest thing I saw in a while was a victim of Sudanese crime that was actually one of their biggest advocates, just amazed him that they would attack someone like him that thinks the country should be full of them, for no reason at all, funny stuff, what a knob.  ;D

olde.sault wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

That the arrival of the boat people makes no difference to the number of people accepted into the community - that boat people are just subtracted from those accepted from overseas' camps. The difference is the cost, overseas' refugees have already been processed and the poorer, in camps, had already waited a long time.. Then there is the worry about terrorism and diseases.

"olde and salty" people are where the diseases are at.