Will they do it? If so who will be the next PM? I'm not so sure it will be Rudd, he'll run but I reckon the Rudd haters will support a third candidate. The question is who?
Carr
Crean
Smith
Combet
Shorton
These are the only real contenders. And Shorton and Combet probably dont want to cruel their futures, so its a night watchmen, Crean Carr or Smith.The rest are very long odds, like Peter Garret is 250 to 1 .

help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles.

But no Gillard will not be dumped.

Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out??

I am hoping they keep gillard. Oh the gratification of watching her get booted from here to sunday.

But if they dont keep her, then I dont care who they pick, because it will be a short term option.

woof woof wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out??

rudd will be opposition leader after the election. Nothing else makes sense. Gillard will be gone. half the caucus will be gone and the fools that sailed them onto the rocks will not be wanted.

woof woof wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out??

Anyone who puts their personal career above consigning Abbott to the dustbin of history has no right to lead us. That includes Julia Gillard.

Gillard will go after the election and Rudd won't replace her, both are proven failures.

Labor has plenty to choose from, unlike the Liberals. Who would replace Abbott? Not Turnbull, most Libs hate him.

Joe Hockey? Surely not.

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:48pm: help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out?? Anyone who puts their personal career above consigning Abbott to the dustbin of history has no right to lead us. That includes Julia Gillard.

in a few months he wil be PM so you might as well get used to the idea of polices that are implemented correctly, polices that make sense and a reduction in debt and deficit.

that must suck for you.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:27pm: woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:48pm: help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out?? Anyone who puts their personal career above consigning Abbott to the dustbin of history has no right to lead us. That includes Julia Gillard. in a few months he wil be PM so you might as well get used to the idea of polices that are implemented correctly, polices that make sense and a reduction in debt and deficit. that must suck for you.

What sucks are the taxes Abbott will have to charge to pay for all his promises, if you claim he is paying back debt as well while the rest of the world see us as a great economy were all truly buggered.

They have to keep gillard to tell the truth. Surely we cant have the first Australian woman PM not to be elected as PM but to have stabbed a man in the back and sold the people out.

I say let her be elected as PM on her own back or please apologise for the failed experiment for a first woman PM.

skippy. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

Will they do it? If so who will be the next PM? I'm not so sure it will be Rudd, he'll run but I reckon the Rudd haters will support a third candidate. The question is who? Carr Crean Smith Combet Shorton These are the only real contenders. And Shorton and Combet probably dont want to cruel their futures, so its a night watchmen, Crean Carr or Smith.The rest are very long odds, like Peter Garret is 250 to 1 .

Why no woman. You had enough too  ;D ;D ;D

Just joking. Why no woman. Surely there is some woman in labor to atleast get a token mention.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:27pm: woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:48pm: help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out?? Anyone who puts their personal career above consigning Abbott to the dustbin of history has no right to lead us. That includes Julia Gillard. in a few months he wil be PM so you might as well get used to the idea of polices that are implemented correctly, polices that make sense and a reduction in debt and deficit. that must suck for you.

How could what you say suck for me. Unfortunately, what you say is highly unlikely.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

They have to keep gillard to tell the truth. Surely we cant have the first Australian woman PM not to be elected as PM but to have stabbed a man in the back and sol the people out. I say let her be elected as PM on her own back or please apologise for the failed experiment for a first woman PM.

These comments brought to you by our resident male chauvinist pig.  :-?

Skip I been saying for ages that yes we are truely fkd, we are so far gone the debt we are in etc. Its no good ppl saying we aren't as bad as other countries so we're OK, we are screwed, massive job loses business closing down gov cutting 10s of thousands of jobs, it unsustainable and in 10 yrs time we'll be like a sth american poo hole, every man for them selves.

skippy. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:49pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:46pm: They have to keep gillard to tell the truth. Surely we cant have the first Australian woman PM not to be elected as PM but to have stabbed a man in the back and sol the people out. I say let her be elected as PM on her own back or please apologise for the failed experiment for a first woman PM. These comments brought to you by our resident male chauvinist pig.  :-?

Hey you were the one that gave 5 mens names for next labor PM and not one woman. Look in the mirror fool.

This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is.

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is.

So you are also saying there is not one woman in labor worthy of atleast a token mention.

Look at them, Roxons going but she is as popular as an ant nest at a picnic, Wong is a man hater, and those nodding noddies are not leadership material, Lundy is a A Grade moron.

The only woman in parliament that is PM material is Julie Bishop, she go real well me thinks, even better than Abbott.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:59pm: This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is. So you are also saying there is not one woman in labor worthy of atleast a token mention.

I wouldn't do Wong the disservice of throwing her in as a token mention. I'd love to live in a society where Wong would be seriously considered as a leader. I'm pushing for Rudd to reclaim the leadership for political reasons, but I'd much rather Combet or Wong.

Skippy wasnt nominating his preferred leaders, he was nominating the most likely suspects.

woof woof wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:14pm:

Look at them, Roxons going but she is as popular as an ant nest at a picnic, Wong is a man hater, and those nodding noddies are not leadership material, Lundy is a A Grade moron. The only woman in parliament that is PM material is Julie Bishop, she go real well me thinks, even better than Abbott.

My wife thinks she is brilliant and my wife is like most Australians, far removed from what we talk about in this forum. I think if the opportunity was presented, I might vote for her as a last ditch for women. If she brought in gender like gillard disgustingly has, then that would be it for me for voting women.

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is.

I didn't name Wong because she wasn't suitable or for that matter a great choice. I just watch the xenophobic chauvinist pigs on here and see this country is a long way from electing a gay Asian female as PM.

skippy. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:30pm:

MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:59pm: This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is. I didn't name Wong because she wasn't suitable or for that matter a great choice. I just watch the xenophobic chauvinist pigs on here and see this country is a long way from electing a gay Asian female as PM.

Yeh so dont even name her because you have made up your mind. You are the sexist one.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:14pm: Look at them, Roxons going but she is as popular as an ant nest at a picnic, Wong is a man hater, and those nodding noddies are not leadership material, Lundy is a A Grade moron. The only woman in parliament that is PM material is Julie Bishop, she go real well me thinks, even better than Abbott. My wife thinks she is brilliant and my wife is like most Australians, far removed from what we talk about in this forum. I think if the opportunity was presented, I might vote for her as a last ditch for women. If she brought in gender like gillard disgustingly has, then that would be it for me for voting women.

If you think no woman is suitable just because you believe one Woman was a poor PM, you have just defined yourself as a sexist. You really are obtuse, progs.

You can't even pretend you're not a sexist. no wonder you are such an Abbott fanboi.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:41pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:30pm: MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:59pm: This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is. I didn't name Wong because she wasn't suitable or for that matter a great choice. I just watch the xenophobic chauvinist pigs on here and see this country is a long way from electing a gay Asian female as PM. Yeh so dont even name her because you have made up your mind. You are the sexist one.

He's made up his mind about the electorate.

He's yet to rate Wong. Perhaps he doesn't rate her. That doesn't make him a sexist.

I think that a new leader is Labor's only possible chance. Sad that Australians would vote for Tony Abbott, and sad to see them fall for the media's propaganda and misrepresentation of Labor as a bad government, when they haven't been. I think that when it comes down to it, people couldn't accept a female Prime Minister. To answer the question, I think that Carr or Shorten should take it. Both are natural leaders and would win a lot of votes.

Lets face it Labor are gone.
I like to think I'm pretty fair if a little to the left, whether with Rudd or Gillard there is nothing they can do but influence the size of the outcome.
The 1 last hope is that Tony trips and his so tightly wrapped up he'll suffocate first.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Lets face it Labor are gone. I like to think I'm pretty fair if a little to the left, whether with Rudd or Gillard there is nothing they can do but influence the size of the outcome. The 1 last hope is that Tony trips and his so tightly wrapped up he'll suffocate first.

Gillard may well be gone, but I refuse to accept that Australians will pull the trigger on Abbott.

media propaganda and misrepresentation of labor??

are you on LSD son?? this gov has been the most incompetant of any in history.

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:16pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 9:04pm: Lets face it Labor are gone. I like to think I'm pretty fair if a little to the left, whether with Rudd or Gillard there is nothing they can do but influence the size of the outcome. The 1 last hope is that Tony trips and his so tightly wrapped up he'll suffocate first. Gillard may well be gone, but I refuse to accept that Australians will pull the trigger on Abbott.

I'd say many will vote for him as they see him not as the perfect person for the job, but because he is the lesser of two evils. And basically it is a 2 horse race so votig someone else wont make much difference.

I think the Labor party after this election needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom. Just seems like they have drifted so far away from their values that made them a respectable party.

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:24pm: woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:14pm: Look at them, Roxons going but she is as popular as an ant nest at a picnic, Wong is a man hater, and those nodding noddies are not leadership material, Lundy is a A Grade moron. The only woman in parliament that is PM material is Julie Bishop, she go real well me thinks, even better than Abbott. My wife thinks she is brilliant and my wife is like most Australians, far removed from what we talk about in this forum. I think if the opportunity was presented, I might vote for her as a last ditch for women. If she brought in gender like gillard disgustingly has, then that would be it for me for voting women. If you think no woman is suitable just because you believe one Woman was a poor PM, you have just defined yourself as a sexist. You really are obtuse, progs. You can't even pretend you're not a sexist. no wonder you are such an Abbott fanboi.

If another female PM brings in the sexist card, then that will make it without a doubt, not worthwhile voting for a woamn.

Maybe Gillard is that pathetic after all and it is only her and the likes of her that would do such a thing.

I have hope.

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

I think the Labor party after this election needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom. Just seems like they have drifted so far away from their values that made them a respectable party.

Paul Howes first, then they should distance themselves from unions and their money. There is only going to be more corruption while they have unions as their uterus.

Peter Freedman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Gillard will go after the election and Rudd won't replace her, both are proven failures. Labor has plenty to choose from, unlike the Liberals. Who would replace Abbott? Not Turnbull, most Libs hate him. Joe Hockey? Surely not.

Why the empty talk about Abbott's replacement?

He is doing fine so who, in the coalition, would be stupid enough to give him the shove?

Turnbull had his run and failed which was a pity because oratorially and his looks was impressive.

However, he lost credibility when he began to back Labor's fraud - global warming and carbon tax.

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:41pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 8:30pm: MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:59pm: This is probably a little too subtle for you, progs. But as much as Skippy would like to name Penny Wong he knows the Labor backbenchers are as aware of the electorates biases as he is. I didn't name Wong because she wasn't suitable or for that matter a great choice. I just watch the xenophobic chauvinist pigs on here and see this country is a long way from electing a gay Asian female as PM. Yeh so dont even name her because you have made up your mind. You are the sexist one. He's made up his mind about the electorate. He's yet to rate Wong. Perhaps he doesn't rate her. That doesn't make him a sexist.

You might be right. Any dumbo who publicly says "I think he (Richard Lindzen) is just wrong", has no place anywhere near making policy. She should go now.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Lets face it Labor are gone. I like to think I'm pretty fair if a little to the left, whether with Rudd or Gillard there is nothing they can do but influence the size of the outcome. The 1 last hope is that Tony trips and his so tightly wrapped up he'll suffocate first.

Rudd could win the election, I am sure of that. Gillard can't, I have accepted that.

woof woof wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

media propaganda and misrepresentation of labor?? are you on LSD son?? this gov has been the most incompetant of any in history.

You weren't alive in the Fraser years, I take it?

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:48pm: help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out?? rudd will be opposition leader after the election. Nothing else makes sense. Gillard will be gone. half the caucus will be gone and the fools that sailed them onto the rocks will not be wanted.

The torch will be handed to any one of the Ministers sitting at the AWU meeting in the last few days

My pick is Shorten - he was one of the mastermind behind Gillard's ascension

The party does not want Rudd based on his previous and current character. He's too stubborn to change

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 9:25pm:

MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 9:16pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 9:04pm: Lets face it Labor are gone. I like to think I'm pretty fair if a little to the left, whether with Rudd or Gillard there is nothing they can do but influence the size of the outcome. The 1 last hope is that Tony trips and his so tightly wrapped up he'll suffocate first. Gillard may well be gone, but I refuse to accept that Australians will pull the trigger on Abbott. I'd say many will vote for him as they see him not as the perfect person for the job, but because he is the lesser of two evils. And basically it is a 2 horse race so votig someone else wont make much difference.

I think you are 100% correct.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 11:12pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 9:25pm: MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 9:16pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 9:04pm: Lets face it Labor are gone. I like to think I'm pretty fair if a little to the left, whether with Rudd or Gillard there is nothing they can do but influence the size of the outcome. The 1 last hope is that Tony trips and his so tightly wrapped up he'll suffocate first. Gillard may well be gone, but I refuse to accept that Australians will pull the trigger on Abbott. I'd say many will vote for him as they see him not as the perfect person for the job, but because he is the lesser of two evils. And basically it is a 2 horse race so votig someone else wont make much difference. I think you are 100% correct.

So do I. I never thought that the Australian people could be stupid enough to vote for Abbott. It's disappointing when even people you know and love are going to do so.  :(

Everyone I here talk about politics says Gillard is buggered but Abbott is worse. The only person I know that says they can't wait for phony tony is my mother in law, and she is a member of the conga line of suckholes, she would vote for Hitler if he was Liberal leader.

skippy. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 5:59am:

Everyone I here talk about politics says Gillard is buggered but Abbott is worse. The only person I know that says they can't wait for phony tony is my mother in law, and she is a member of the conga line of suckholes, she would vote for Hitler if he was Liberal leader.

I guess you just ignored the last neilsen poll that has Abbott in front.

Here is another poll that has far more friends than you and they arent all political hacks like the little group you have, so you will get more diversity.
Yahoo 7 poll

Who would you prefer as PM - Gillard, Rudd, Abbott or Turnbull?

18772 votes

Julia Gillard            16% (3037)
Kevin Rudd            28% (5217)
Tony Abbott        33% (6252)
Malcolm Turnbull      23% (4266)

When you have to resort to an online poll to justify your position, you really are struggling.

MOTR wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 6:17am:

When you have to resort to an online poll to justify your position, you really are struggling.

I went with neilsen poll fool.

The yahoo poll is to show skip his little group of friends have nothing on 18000 yahoo friends.

If Gillard goes all that Labor can do is roll in an old war horse like Crean, the upside for him is he can augment his pension, he'll have no misconception he'll ever be PM and just ride out the storm until the Union thugs can come up with another leader/PM hopeful in 10 years time.

No one with ambition for PM is gonna take up the poison chalice with Dullards lipstick all over it.

Peter Freedman wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Gillard will go after the election and Rudd won't replace her, both are proven failures. abor has plenty to choose from,L unlike the Liberals. Who would replace Abbott? Not Turnbull, most Libs hate him. Joe Hockey? Surely not.

hilarious..you are forgetting they are all fractured..

they have taken sides....so who ever is there knows they only have half support...gillard has lost a few more since the last count....

you are so funny...if rudd takes over he loses the whole front bench.....they are all gillard supporters...and hate him..then there are those with a foot in both camps.. crean for one..LOL>.

apart from labor doing its utmost to make Abbott out to be the worst choice....I havent heard one complaint about Abbott froma righty

god that must make you guys sick...every day someone from the labor party is saying something ominous about gillard..

if you really think us aussies are going to put up with anymore ex union bosses... you sure havent been reading the papers have you????

Rider wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 6:33am:

If Gillard goes all that Labor can do is roll in an old war horse like Crean, the upside for him is he can augment his pension, he'll have no misconception he'll ever be PM and just ride out the storm until the Union thugs can come up with another leader/PM hopeful in 10 years time. No one with ambition for PM is gonna take up the poison chalice with Dullards lipstick all over it.

exactly everyone they have except rudd is tainted by the unions.. and look what the POWER of the union mob did to rudd... and we can see the hold they have over gillard..

has she said one word about corruption in the unions.. and at the moment they are riddled with it???

MOTR wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:33pm: MOTR wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:27pm: woof woof wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:48pm: help help someone has hacked skippys acc and posted a logical balanced post, gthank god for small miracles. But no Gillard will not be dumped. Rudd is hated and noone else wants to be the captain of the ship when it goes down at election time. More career opportunities after the election when most of the competition has been voted out?? Anyone who puts their personal career above consigning Abbott to the dustbin of history has no right to lead us. That includes Julia Gillard. in a few months he wil be PM so you might as well get used to the idea of polices that are implemented correctly, polices that make sense and a reduction in debt and deficit. that must suck for you. How could what you say suck for me. Unfortunately, what you say is highly unlikely.

why unlikely? if history is any guide it is more than likely. it wont be as easy or quick this time, but it is certainly possible if only because at least Abbott is going to TRY to rein in debt and deficit spending. Labor dont seem remotely interested in it.

Labor will be dumped, not Gillard or Swan, Rudd, Short, Carr, Crean, Garrett, Combet, Thommo. They are the symptoms of why Labor will lose the next election.
And if Abbott stuffs up, he will be dumped after on term. The long reign of Howard will not be repeated for some time.

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 8:46am:

Labor will be dumped, not Gillard or Swan, Rudd, Short, Carr, Crean, Garrett, Combet, Thommo. They are the symptoms of why Labor will lose the next election. And if Abbott stuffs up, he will be dumped after on term. The long reign of Howard will not be repeated for some time.

Paying off the $96B Labor debt got him 12 years

This time around the Labor debt is $250B - it should take abit longer.

It took Labor 12 months to change Workchoices - and they still use it 6 years on as a political weapon

So about should have plenty of ammo

skippy. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 5:59am:

Everyone I here talk about politics says Gillard is buggered but Abbott is worse. The only person I know that says they can't wait for phony tony is my mother in law, and she is a member of the conga line of suckholes, she would vote for Hitler if he was Liberal leader.

I am no fan of Abbott, but that's a pretty nasty thing to say about your own mother in law.

For me, Abbott is the lesser of two evils.

Carr's part of the NSW disease, and he's a Senator, so rule him out.

Shorten is the natural leader, but I would think it highly probable that he doesn't want to take the poisoned chalice.

Combet is no leader.

Rudd is too damaged to come back.

Out of the list, Crean seems the most likely to me.

No one wants her job - at the moment. Who wants to be the leader of an outed party?
Be interesting after the election though - I can see the daggers already being sharpened.

john_g wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:

Carr's part of the NSW disease, and he's a Senator, so rule him out.

His NSW link certainly does him no favours.

No need to rule him out just because he's a Senator though: there's nothing stopping a PM coming from the Senate.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:45pm: Will they do it? If so who will be the next PM? I'm not so sure it will be Rudd, he'll run but I reckon the Rudd haters will support a third candidate. The question is who? Carr Crean Smith Combet Shorton These are the only real contenders. And Shorton and Combet probably dont want to cruel their futures, so its a night watchmen, Crean Carr or Smith.The rest are very long odds, like Peter Garret is 250 to 1 . Why no woman. You had enough too  ;D ;D ;D Just joking. Why no woman. Surely there is some woman in labor to atleast get a token mention.

tanya plibosek  :D :D. , actually no, she's so stupid i doubt she could find parliament house.  imagine what obama would make of meeting gillard then tanya.   :D :D

john_g wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 1:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 5:59am: Everyone I here talk about politics says Gillard is buggered but Abbott is worse. The only person I know that says they can't wait for phony tony is my mother in law, and she is a member of the conga line of suckholes, she would vote for Hitler if he was Liberal leader. I am no fan of Abbott, but that's a pretty nasty thing to say about your own mother in law. For me, Abbott is the lesser of two evils.

Why? It's the truth, just like here, these buggers would vote for Hitler too.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 7:47pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 19th, 2013 at 6:45pm: Will they do it? If so who will be the next PM? I'm not so sure it will be Rudd, he'll run but I reckon the Rudd haters will support a third candidate. The question is who? Carr Crean Smith Combet Shorton These are the only real contenders. And Shorton and Combet probably dont want to cruel their futures, so its a night watchmen, Crean Carr or Smith.The rest are very long odds, like Peter Garret is 250 to 1 . Why no woman. You had enough too  ;D ;D ;D Just joking. Why no woman. Surely there is some woman in labor to atleast get a token mention. tanya plibosek  :D :D. , actually no, she's so stupid i doubt she could find parliament house.  imagine what obama would make of meeting gillard then tanya.   :D :D

While I dont think She is dumb someone here, might have even been you, posted a youtube video last week about Hitlers end days and dubbed it, smacking hilarious and in it Tany was  crying because Gillard called her stupid.

Kevin Rudd is the only man Abbott fears and the only one with any chance of winning an election.   And in my opinion, he is probably the only one in the ALP that we have an outside chance that he will consider his obligation before God in his decision making... 8-)

Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott.

3 mentions of Hitler in 3 posts by Skippy....says more about you than anything.

Sad sad sad.

Rider wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:30pm:

3 mentions of Hitler in 3 posts by Skippy....says more about you than anything. Sad sad sad.

Thanks for the troll, swallower. ::)

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

Kevin Rudd is the only man Abbott fears and the only one with any chance of winning an election.   And in my opinion, he is probably the only one in the ALP that we have an outside chance that he will consider his obligation before God in his decision making... 8-)

Abbott isn't afraid of Rudd, he's relishing the opportunity to thrash him at the polls as is every other Australian who was denied the opportunity because Dullard knifed him.

I also love all the lefty ravings about Abbott and religion, when Rudd is there front and centre of every church he can find (particularly ones with journo's posted outside) - now that is smacking funny.

skippy. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:32pm:

Rider wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:30pm: 3 mentions of Hitler in 3 posts by Skippy....says more about you than anything. Sad sad sad. Thanks for the troll, swallower. ::)

ehh?? give it a bone ya deadsh1t.

Rider wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:36pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 3:47pm: Kevin Rudd is the only man Abbott fears and the only one with any chance of winning an election.   And in my opinion, he is probably the only one in the ALP that we have an outside chance that he will consider his obligation before God in his decision making... 8-) Abbott isn't afraid of Rudd, he's relishing the opportunity to thrash him at the polls as is every other Australian who was denied the opportunity because Dullard knifed him. I also love all the lefty ravings about Abbott and religion, when Rudd is there front and centre of every church he can find (particularly ones with journo's posted outside) - now that is smacking funny.

Tony Abbott should learn to fear Gods judgment because the harshest punishment is reserved for leaders whose profession of faith is false..


Quote:

New International Version (©1984) "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

8-)

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

john_g wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 1:38pm: Carr's part of the NSW disease, and he's a Senator, so rule him out. His NSW link certainly does him no favours. No need to rule him out just because he's a Senator though: there's nothing stopping a PM coming from the Senate.

You're right, but how would that work?

skippy. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:26pm:

john_g wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 1:36pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 5:59am: Everyone I here talk about politics says Gillard is buggered but Abbott is worse. The only person I know that says they can't wait for phony tony is my mother in law, and she is a member of the conga line of suckholes, she would vote for Hitler if he was Liberal leader. I am no fan of Abbott, but that's a pretty nasty thing to say about your own mother in law. For me, Abbott is the lesser of two evils. Why? It's the truth, just like here, these buggers would vote for Hitler too.

I meant for the conga line suckhole thing you always go on about.

You won't find any disagreement with me about rusted-on voters voting Hitler if he were leader.

Nothing more stupid than a rusted-on voter IMO, from both sides.

skippy. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott.

Disgusting.

john_g wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 9:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:20pm: Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott. Disgusting.

There is a resemblance:

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john_g wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 9:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:20pm: Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott. Disgusting.

what's more disgusting is skippy votes for the Greens

john_g wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 9:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:20pm: Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott. Disgusting.

Yea, Mattys so called swinging voter sock. ::)

skippy. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 7:30am:

john_g wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 9:36pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:20pm: Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott. Disgusting. Yea, Mattys so called swinging voter sock. ::)

You really have a thing going for Matty skip.

Wouldn't have thought you being a 'real man' would be that way inclined.

I guess you can't always pick them.

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Gillard would only be dumped for Rudd and I can't see this happening.

Rudd is a bit like Abbott - a better chance of winning but not a good PM.

It is a strategy where you lose when you win, something the Lib fans may have to come to terms with soon.

KJT1981 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 7:44am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 21st, 2013 at 7:30am: john_g wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 9:36pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:20pm: Rudd actually makes me even less likly to want to preference Labor, but he's better than Abbott, Hitler would be better than Abbott. Disgusting. Yea, Mattys so called swinging voter sock. ::) You really have a thing going for Matty skip. Wouldn't have thought you being a 'real man' would be that way inclined. I guess you can't always pick them.

It's creepy.

He accuses a lot of conservative posters of being matty, and now, a non-conservative like me.

I guess I must be wrong for being disgusted that Abbott would be compared to someone who was responsible for the killing of 6 million people, and attempted murder of a whole religion of people.

skippy. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 7:52am:

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Well said Skip.  [smiley=lolk.gif]