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Message started by Maqqa on Feb 19th, 2013 at 11:05pm

Title: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by Maqqa on Feb 19th, 2013 at 11:05pm
http://www.theage.com.au/national/coal-bags-carbon-profit-20130219-2eplx.html

AUSTRALIA'S highly emitting brown coal power generators will reap $2.3 billion to $5.4 billion in windfall profits from carbon price compensation, an analysis by a leading energy market expert has found.

While brown coal power plants based in Victoria's Latrobe Valley will get billions in compensation, the analysis suggests they have so far been able to pass on all of their extra costs of the carbon price - thus turning the compensation into pre-tax profit.

The analysis carried out by Bruce Mountain, director of consultants Carbon + Energy Markets, looked at half-hourly spot prices for electricity sold from four Victorian brown-coal fuelled power plants - Hazelwood, Yallourn, Loy Yang A and Loy Yang B - over the first six months of the carbon price.

Environment Victoria, which commissioned the analysis, demanded the federal government review the compensation for coal power plants.

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Its campaigns director, Mark Wakeham, said: ''It is a terrible result for taxpayers and the environment if our dirtiest power stations like Hazelwood are becoming more profitable as a result of compensation payments.''

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by Maqqa on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits


Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by FRED. on Feb 20th, 2013 at 12:21pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am:
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits


CONNED AGAIN THANK JULIAR  >:( >:(

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 20th, 2013 at 12:58pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am:
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits


hardly can 'blame' the energy producers for making a profit.

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by cods on Feb 20th, 2013 at 3:14pm
CARBON CREDITS...

the next money laundering.racket...havent we said that since day one???

it will all be covered by smoke and mirrors...

does anyone seriously believe unemployment figures???

does anyone seriously believe hospital waiting list figures??????

have you ever seen figures on GOVT WASTE???


nup...well you wont get any truth about carbon credits either..


for all those that believe every word that spills from gillards ruby lips...good luck with this one.


Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by adelcrow on Feb 20th, 2013 at 3:26pm
It just shows that Labors half arsed plan handing out compensation to households and the polluters was a stupid idea.
Abbotts and the Greens carbon tax with no compensation is the one that should have our full support

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by Doctor Jolly on Feb 20th, 2013 at 3:45pm
Compensation was always part of the package.  In fact it was the right wingers who pushed so hard for it, right back in the day when the Turnbull/Rudd solution was set.

Would you rather no compensation was provided to impacted industries. ?

I'd wouldnt mind if so.

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by John Smith on Feb 20th, 2013 at 9:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am:
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits


comment on what? that businesses are being compensated? wow ... maqqa just figured it out.

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by Maqqa on Feb 20th, 2013 at 10:56pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 9:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am:
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits


comment on what? that businesses are being compensated? wow ... maqqa just figured it out.


That one of the reason why Swan can't achieve an surplus/erection in the last 5 Budgets is because he's paying big business $5B in compo while let them profiteer

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by rabbitoh07 on Feb 21st, 2013 at 12:17am

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am:
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits

At least we have a carbon price.  even if it is flawed.

Tony thinks "climate change is crap" and will dismantle the carbon price.

You don't want to send Australia behind the rest of the world do you?

Title: Re: Coal bags carbon profit
Post by rabbitoh07 on Feb 21st, 2013 at 12:20am

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 9:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 11:05am:
No one on the left is willing to comment on this?

These businesses are passing carbon tax to consumers through price hikes and the pocking compo as profits


comment on what? that businesses are being compensated? wow ... maqqa just figured it out.


That one of the reason why Swan can't achieve an surplus/erection in the last 5 Budgets is because he's paying big business $5B in compo while let them profiteer

Why did Tony say that Whyalla would be wiped of the face of the map?
Why did Tony say that  the carbon price would be like  a"wrecking ball" through the economy

Why did tony tell these lies?

As you have just shown us - the carbon price is not harshe enough.

Why did Tony lie to us?

Why doe he think "climate change is crap"?

Why does Tony want to send Australia backwards and not have carbon pricing like the rest of the world?

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