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Message started by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 2:46pm

Title: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 2:46pm
Yes the Pope blames God for being a sleep whilst all of this sexual abuse went on. Must have been a sleep for a long time.

And stupid gullible people keep giving money to them :(

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Quantum on Feb 28th, 2013 at 2:49pm
You post some seriously trolling crap on this forum, but this is a new low even for you. Normally you're not worth reading, but this is so bad it was actually funny.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 3:21pm

Quantum wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 2:49pm:
You post some seriously trolling crap on this forum, but this is a new low even for you. Normally you're not worth reading, but this is so bad it was actually funny.


Shooting the messenger again as usual. There was a discussion about this on talk back radio between Tom Elliot and a Catholic priest and yes that is exactly what the pope said so shut the bugger up and accept reality for a change !!

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Quantum on Feb 28th, 2013 at 3:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 3:21pm:
The pope blames god for being a sleep while all this sexual abuse went on.


When questioned your reply was;


Quote:
Shooting the messenger again as usual. There was a discussion about this on talk back radio between Tom Elliot and a Catholic priest and yes that is exactly what the pope said so shut the bugger up and accept reality for a change !!


What the pope actually said;


Quote:
"The Lord gave us days of sun and of light breeze, days in which the fishing was good. There were also moments when there were stormy waters and headwinds... as if God was sleeping,"

"But I always knew that God was in that boat and I always knew that the boat of the Church is not mine, is not ours, but is his and he will not let it sink,"

"I never felt alone"


I can't stand the pope. I hate what the position stands for and I think the idea of them is a disgrace. I wouldn't be surprised if this pope has actively covered up for pedophiles and wouldn't be shocked if he was one himself. But you nail are a BS artist, looking to troll this forum. Of course your only defense will be to accuse me of protecting the pope and covering for pedophiles, so let me repeat my position one more time;

I can't stand the pope. I hate what the position stands for and I think the idea of them is a disgrace. I wouldn't be surprised if this pope has actively covered up for pedophiles and wouldn't be shocked if he was one himself.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:03pm
This is what happens when you are limp wristed with scum, that God hates, they become your priests, your bosses and political leaders... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:37pm
>  The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!

And he's quite right!! The Abrahamic God is known by various names; Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan, Allah, Beelzebub, YHJH, The Devil, God. They ALL refer to the same entity that is, in practical terms, the psychic summation of its worshippers, and it is manifestly evil, perverse, and depraved, as are its followers.

Nothing new in this.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:40pm
Infidels are of their father, who is the devil../.they are diabolical lying scum... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:49pm

Quantum wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 3:21pm:
The pope blames god for being a sleep while all this sexual abuse went on.


When questioned your reply was;


Quote:
Shooting the messenger again as usual. There was a discussion about this on talk back radio between Tom Elliot and a Catholic priest and yes that is exactly what the pope said so shut the bugger up and accept reality for a change !!


What the pope actually said;

[quote]"The Lord gave us days of sun and of light breeze, days in which the fishing was good. There were also moments when there were stormy waters and headwinds... as if God was sleeping,"

"But I always knew that God was in that boat and I always knew that the boat of the Church is not mine, is not ours, but is his and he will not let it sink,"

"I never felt alone"


I can't stand the pope. I hate what the position stands for and I think the idea of them is a disgrace. I wouldn't be surprised if this pope has actively covered up for pedophiles and wouldn't be shocked if he was one himself. But you nail are a BS artist, looking to troll this forum. Of course your only defense will be to accuse me of protecting the pope and covering for pedophiles, so let me repeat my position one more time;

I can't stand the pope. I hate what the position stands for and I think the idea of them is a disgrace. I wouldn't be surprised if this pope has actively covered up for pedophiles and wouldn't be shocked if he was one himself.[/quote]

blame shifting as I higlighted is what the Catholic church is good at doing and the priest on the radio interview did not reject Tom Elliots assertions of blame shifting which is exactly as I have put it so go bugger yourself again. I know what I heard.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Frances on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 3:21pm:
yes that is exactly what the pope said


No it wasn't.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 28th, 2013 at 5:12pm
Good thread Nail,


Latest news from CNN.


Catholic Church is full of homos.



http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/25/former-catholic-friar-homosexuality-is-the-ticking-time-bomb/?hpt=hp_c3&iid=article_sidebar




Quote:
by Mick Krever, CNN

Homosexuality is “the ticking time bomb in the Catholic Church,” a former Dominican friar told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Monday.

Mark Dowd, who is himself openly gay, spoke to Amanpour as a blitz of new scandals hit the Catholic Church, just days before Pope Benedict XVI is set to step down from the papacy.

The Vatican announced on Monday that the archbishop of Scotland is resigning, a day after British newspapers published accusations of decades-long sexual misconduct with other priests. An American Cardinal is facing fresh allegations of covering up abuse. And Italian newspapers over the weekend published sordid accounts of homosexuality and blackmail within the Church hierarchy.

That last allegation, of a secret “cabal” of gay priests, has been dubbed the “Vati-leaks” scandal.

“When you have this culture of secrecy and guilt and repression,” Dowd said, “you have conditions which foster the potential for blackmail and for manipulation.”

Dowd, who is now a journalist, said that gay men are “massively over-represented” within the Church.

“About half,” he said, “if not more, of all the people attracted into seminaries in the priesthood are gay themselves.”

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 28th, 2013 at 7:22pm

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:37pm:
>  The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!

And he's quite right!! The Abrahamic God is known by various names; Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan, Allah, Beelzebub, YHJH, The Devil, God. They ALL refer to the same entity that is, in practical terms, the psychic summation of its worshippers, and it is manifestly evil, perverse, and depraved, as are its followers.

Nothing new in this.


You might want to rethink the highlighted names..

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Feb 28th, 2013 at 9:30pm
> You might want to rethink the highlighted names.

The Christian God and the Christian Devil are two names for the same entity. Same goes for the Jewish and Islamic versions. It's the reason why their followers are trapped by their beliefs.

Men create Gods in their own image, likewise devils. Both are simply psychic constructs reflecting the deep inner psychology of those who have failed to find their own spiritual nature, and need invented substitutes that they can worship or abhor rather than dealing with the inevitable conflicts within their own natures.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 9:53pm
God created man in his own image, then  satan entered the heart of  man as did sin and rebellion.  Man is utterly sinful in all of his ways and under the dominion of the devil who is called the god of this world.   Satan and God are not  the same or even co equal  entities, satan is cast down and will roast in hell with all the rest of the Atheist vermin.....yet man commanded to repent, God has intervened in history in the person  of Jesus Christ.  There is no question that anyone who  has called God satan has satan in their heart and has committed the one sin that will never be forgiven.  They will be punished unendingly and without mercy throughout all eternity wjhile the chosen people will inherit the Earth and have everlasting life.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:08pm
> God created man in his own image ... people will inherit the Earth and have everlasting life....

By Crikey, yer've got yer indoctrination down pat, me lad! Yer'll be up for promotion to a mullah very soon, and the seventy-two virgins are panting to get at ya!

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:12pm

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:37pm:
>  The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!

And he's quite right!! The Abrahamic God is known by various names; Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan, Allah, Beelzebub, YHJH, The Devil, God. They ALL refer to the same entity that is, in practical terms, the psychic summation of its worshippers, and it is manifestly evil, perverse, and depraved, as are its followers.

Nothing new in this.


Wow, I knew that God was known as Jehovah, Yahweh - but allah, satan...I'd like to see some evidence of where you got that from!!

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:13pm
Turn or  Burn scum....look, tonght your soul could be required of you, it can come just likde that and then you are toast evil doers  8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 9:53pm:
God created man in his own image, then  satan entered the heart of  man as did sin and rebellion.  Man is utterly sinful in all of his ways and under the dominion of the devil who is called the god of this world.   Satan and God are not  the same or even co equal  entities, satan is cast down and will roast in hell with all the rest of the Atheist vermin.....yet man commanded to repent, God has intervened in history in the person  of Jesus Christ.  There is no question that anyone who  has called God satan has satan in their heart and has committed the one sin that will never be forgiven.  They will be punished unendingly and without mercy throughout all eternity wjhile the chosen people will inherit the Earth and have everlasting life.... 8-)


Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:17pm
God can take sinners out at any time and cast them into hell, the  time of your dying is at his good pleasure and there is nothing - nothing you can do about that.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:21pm

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 9:30pm:
> You might want to rethink the highlighted names.

The Christian God and the Christian Devil are two names for the same entity. Same goes for the Jewish and Islamic versions. It's the reason why their followers are trapped by their beliefs.

Men create Gods in their own image, likewise devils. Both are simply psychic constructs reflecting the deep inner psychology of those who have failed to find their own spiritual nature, and need invented substitutes that they can worship or abhor rather than dealing with the inevitable conflicts within their own natures.


No, in the christian mythos, the devil or satan is the name given to an angel that rebelled against god.
They are two distinct indvidual beings.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:22pm

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 9:30pm:
> You might want to rethink the highlighted names.

The Christian God and the Christian Devil are two names for the same entity. Same goes for the Jewish and Islamic versions. It's the reason why their followers are trapped by their beliefs.

Men create Gods in their own image, likewise devils. Both are simply psychic constructs reflecting the deep inner psychology of those who have failed to find their own spiritual nature, and need invented substitutes that they can worship or abhor rather than dealing with the inevitable conflicts within their own natures.


not according to any christian I know ... (I'm catholic and attended catholic schools ... was even an alter boy once upon a time .) pretty sure your argument is flawed.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by John Smith on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:25pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:21pm:

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 9:30pm:
> You might want to rethink the highlighted names.

The Christian God and the Christian Devil are two names for the same entity. Same goes for the Jewish and Islamic versions. It's the reason why their followers are trapped by their beliefs.

Men create Gods in their own image, likewise devils. Both are simply psychic constructs reflecting the deep inner psychology of those who have failed to find their own spiritual nature, and need invented substitutes that they can worship or abhor rather than dealing with the inevitable conflicts within their own natures.


No, in the christian mythos, the devil or satan is the name given to an angel that rebelled against god.
They are two distinct indvidual beings.


I'm pretty sure the devil is supposed to be gods brother ......

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:32pm
I know for a fact that every atheist is hated by God  and damned to hell forver...there is irrefutable evidence of it in the Bible, that they are vermin and lowlife evil scum.....  8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:36pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:32pm:
I know for a fact that every atheist is hated by God  and damned to hell forver...there is irrefutable evidence of it in the Bible, that they are vermin and lowlife evil scum.....  8-)


So what does that say for the arsehole that created all of this scum ?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:38pm
> Wow, I knew that God was known as Jehovah, Yahweh - but allah, satan...I'd like to see some evidence of where you got that from!!

Go read their doctrines, if you've the patience. They all say pretty much the same thing, depending on which translation you use. Hatred, bigotry, do as you're told, eternal punishment, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Not a word about how to develop your own inner spiritual nature; just go to a priest/mullah/rabbi and beg to be forgiven for your HORRIBLE sins, sob, sob ...

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:40pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:32pm:
I know for a fact that every atheist is hated by God  and damned to hell forver...there is irrefutable evidence of it in the Bible, that they are vermin and lowlife evil scum.....  8-)


So what does that say for the arsehole that created all of this scum ?

He created you' entirely for my benefit so I would know that he is God and the fate I had been spared from that I also deserved...thanks man.... :)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:45pm
If you atheists know as much about God as you are  8-)trying to make out, then why are you still ignorant evil lowlife scum going to hell? 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:52pm
> He created you' entirely for my benefit so I would know that he is God and the fate I had been spared from that I also deserved...thanks man....

> If you atheists know as much about God as you are  trying to make out, then why are you still ignorant evil lowlife scum going to hell?

The ranting, hatred, bigotry and conceit of this sorry specimen of sub-humanity surely proves the truth of my statements, so I'll retire from the fray. I assume that this is typical of what passes for the Muslim mind.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:54pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:45pm:
If you atheists know as much about God as you are  8-)trying to make out, then why are you still ignorant evil lowlife scum going to hell? 8-)


your imaginary hell doesn't apply to us because atheists deny that it even exists ;D

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:56pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:40pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:36pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:32pm:
I know for a fact that every atheist is hated by God  and damned to hell forver...there is irrefutable evidence of it in the Bible, that they are vermin and lowlife evil scum.....  8-)


So what does that say for the arsehole that created all of this scum ?

He created you' entirely for my benefit so I would know that he is God and the fate I had been spared from that I also deserved...thanks man.... :)


So according to you god knowingly created scum and then punishes it forever just for being the scum it created ;D

See how f,cked up god really is ;D

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:07pm
I cant wait till God sends you evil atheist filth to hell and we can live  in peace and harmony forever more....  8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Quantum on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:17pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:56pm:
See how f,cked up god really is ;D


You know what's really buggered up... someone who doesn't believe in God at all, but spends his entire life going on political Internet forums complaining and finding fault in the very subject he doesn't believe in. If someone believes that their entire existence consists of the short number of years that we each get on this rock, then you would think that that person would find something more productive to do with what little time they have to live. Instead, people like nail spend day after day starting one thread after another, complaining about something that in his mind is not even real. That is complete insanity! The only thing possibly more buggered than nail's brain is his boyfriend's arse.   

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:26pm

Quantum wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:56pm:
See how f,cked up god really is ;D


You know what's really buggered up... someone who doesn't believe in God at all, but spends his entire life going on political Internet forums complaining and finding fault in the very subject he doesn't believe in. If someone believes that their entire existence consists of the short number of years that we each get on this rock, then you would think that that person would find something more productive to do with what little time they have to live. Instead, people like nail spend day after day starting one thread after another, complaining about something that in his mind is not even real. That is complete insanity! The only thing possibly more buggered than nail's brain is his boyfriend's arse.   


then what the bugger does that make you reading and replying to it ha ??? Jeez some people on this forum are retarded  :(

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:33pm
Jesus Christ hates fags 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Quantum on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:43pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:26pm:

Quantum wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:56pm:
See how f,cked up god really is ;D


You know what's really buggered up... someone who doesn't believe in God at all, but spends his entire life going on political Internet forums complaining and finding fault in the very subject he doesn't believe in. If someone believes that their entire existence consists of the short number of years that we each get on this rock, then you would think that that person would find something more productive to do with what little time they have to live. Instead, people like nail spend day after day starting one thread after another, complaining about something that in his mind is not even real. That is complete insanity! The only thing possibly more buggered than nail's brain is his boyfriend's arse.   


then what the bugger does that make you reading and replying to it ha ???


It makes me someone who does not believe that their entire existence consists of the short number of years that we each get on this rock.


Quote:
Jeez some people on this forum are retarded


Your inability to understand a conditional sentence is proof of that.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Mar 1st, 2013 at 1:27am
Just by way of adding a modern perspective, all of these mediaeval religious fantasies are fine for keeping the terminally guilty in line, but the REAL action is in Transhumanism. Modern Abrahamics have given away the old stuff, and now worship Man Immortal, the Eternal Cyborg. If you don't believe me, take a look at these:

http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/transhumanism.htm
http://transhumanity.net/
http://singularity.org/
http://www.extropy.org/
http://lifeboat.com/ex/transhumanist.technologies
http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/04/18/how-to-start-a-student-transhumanist-group/

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:19am
It truly is sad that God hating scum are so deluded and in denial of their impending judgment that they invent such Nazi crap to believe in as transhumanism...man imortal...I truly feel sorry for them....Not!  Atheist scum, sorry to disappoint you, but you are going to die precisely when God decides your worthless existence will end and go to your eternal damnation.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:24am
All homosexuals who have ever committed suicide are being toasted in hell forever for being evil scum.... : 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by The Heartless Felon on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:20am

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:52pm:
> He created you' entirely for my benefit so I would know that he is God and the fate I had been spared from that I also deserved...thanks man....

> If you atheists know as much about God as you are  trying to make out, then why are you still ignorant evil lowlife scum going to hell?

The ranting, hatred, bigotry and conceit of this sorry specimen of sub-humanity surely proves the truth of my statements, so I'll retire from the fray. I assume that this is typical of what passes for the Muslim mind.


OI! I'll have you know Corp is a God-fearing Christian, full of Christian charity and lerv for his fellow sinners.
'God -forsaken and worthless grubs' we may be, but Corp will  show us the Way!

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:23am

damien wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:37pm:
>  The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!

And he's quite right!! The Abrahamic God is known by various names; Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan, Allah, Beelzebub, YHJH, The Devil, God. They ALL refer to the same entity that is, in practical terms, the psychic summation of its worshippers, and it is manifestly evil, perverse, and depraved, as are its followers.

Nothing new in this.


Wow, I knew that God was known as Jehovah, Yahweh - but allah, satan...I'd like to see some evidence of where you got that from!!


Hahaha obvious what you tried to do there. Allah is just hebrew for god so you cant swing that one. They are the same deity. In fact all the "abrahamic" religions (yeah event he jews) believe in the same god and even your jesus but he is only a prophet.

SOB

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:26am

Quantum wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:56pm:
See how f,cked up god really is ;D


You know what's really buggered up... someone who doesn't believe in God at all, but spends his entire life going on political Internet forums complaining and finding fault in the very subject he doesn't believe in. If someone believes that their entire existence consists of the short number of years that we each get on this rock, then you would think that that person would find something more productive to do with what little time they have to live. Instead, people like nail spend day after day starting one thread after another, complaining about something that in his mind is not even real. That is complete insanity! The only thing possibly more buggered than nail's brain is his boyfriend's arse.   


Does your fairy king approve of you talking to ppl like that? Calling them gay as if its an insult?

SOB

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:28am
Well i see this thread is completely off topic by the first page. Trolls dont like this one huh. Nail have you got a link to what the pope said?

SOB

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by The Heartless Felon on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:49am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:23am:

damien wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

52midnight wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 4:37pm:
>  The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!

And he's quite right!! The Abrahamic God is known by various names; Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan, Allah, Beelzebub, YHJH, The Devil, God. They ALL refer to the same entity that is, in practical terms, the psychic summation of its worshippers, and it is manifestly evil, perverse, and depraved, as are its followers.

Nothing new in this.


Wow, I knew that God was known as Jehovah, Yahweh - but allah, satan...I'd like to see some evidence of where you got that from!!


Hahaha obvious what you tried to do there. Allah is just hebrew for god so you cant swing that one. They are the same deity. In fact all the "abrahamic" religions (yeah event he jews) believe in the same god and even your jesus but he is only a prophet.

SOB


I think you'd better take another swing at that one, Spot.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:07am
> OI! I'll have you know Corp is a God-fearing Christian, full of Christian charity and lerv for his fellow sinners.
'God -forsaken and worthless grubs' we may be, but Corp will  show us the Way!

What's the bet the Fed Govt is paying Corp to sit at home and do nothing, so he's got plenty of time on his hands to pass around all that Muslim lerv and goodness amongst the people who've taken him in as a "refugee". Gillard and her mob of criminal sleazebags are the biggest security threat this country has ever faced.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "free will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that free will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Morning Mist on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:07am

52midnight wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 1:27am:
Just by way of adding a modern perspective, all of these mediaeval religious fantasies are fine for keeping the terminally guilty in line, but the REAL action is in Transhumanism. Modern Abrahamics have given away the old stuff, and now worship Man Immortal, the Eternal Cyborg. If you don't believe me, take a look at these:

http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/transhumanism.htm
http://transhumanity.net/
http://singularity.org/
http://www.extropy.org/
http://lifeboat.com/ex/transhumanist.technologies
http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/04/18/how-to-start-a-student-transhumanist-group/


Interesting links.
The view that man has a fluid and not a fixed nature has been popular since about the 1960s. The above links though seem to separate themselves from many postmodernists in their optimism.


Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:08am

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

I dont need to, I know it and I also know that free will is atheism you cannot will yourself to salvation....Free will is ubnbelief, infidelity, even if you try to twist the scriptures and the Gospel to incorperate it....You are still an atheist and God hates you for your unbelief.... 8-)

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Post by 52midnight on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:21am
> The view that man has a fluid and not a fixed nature has been popular since about the 1960s.

True within the Western context. If you go to the Vedas you'll find this concept is very old, albeit couched in different terms, especially given that it's translated out of ancient Devanagari texts.

The idea that a person's consciousness can be "uploaded" into a cyborg avatar stems from the positivist assertion that consciousness is an emergent property of neurochemistry, and mind is nothing more than a sensory illusion of the brain's operation. Personally, I believe that the truth is far different.

The whole program will seem too far-fetched to be real to many; but I think that, given sufficient determination, it may be possible to anchor consciousness in a sufficiently sophisticated artefact, and that is, quite frankly, a terrifying prospect. Does food taste the same, if at all, to an electronic cyborg? Do colours look the same? Are sensations as satisfying? I doubt them all. Imagine a cyborg George W. Bush in a century or two; he can't get drunk, because the electronics don't respond, food has no taste, and he hasn't got his end in for two hundred years, so he's as frustrated as hell. What sort of a tyrant would that be?

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Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:27am
Australia is doomed...the world is doomed.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by 52midnight on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:39am
> Australia is doomed...the world is doomed....

Then do us all a favour, show some manly initiative, and go put your head under a train. Be very gald to see the last of you.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:28am

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:08am:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

I dont need to, I know it and I also know that free will is atheism you cannot will yourself to salvation....Free will is ubnbelief, infidelity, even if you try to twist the scriptures and the Gospel to incorperate it....You are still an atheist and God hates you for your unbelief.... 8-)


here's proof that nobody can get into heaven so get over it ok.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:58am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:28am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:08am:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

I dont need to, I know it and I also know that free will is atheism you cannot will yourself to salvation....Free will is ubnbelief, infidelity, even if you try to twist the scriptures and the Gospel to incorperate it....You are still an atheist and God hates you for your unbelief.... 8-)


here's proof that nobody can get into heaven so get over it ok.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao

What is impossible with man is possiblewith God...it is not possible for you to save yourself by any acy of your will...you are doomed unless God acts to save you....I just cant wait till he gets rid of the Atheists once and for all on judgment day and so we wont have their endless wars and violence and evil.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by thelastnail on Mar 1st, 2013 at 11:19am

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:58am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:28am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:08am:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

I dont need to, I know it and I also know that free will is atheism you cannot will yourself to salvation....Free will is ubnbelief, infidelity, even if you try to twist the scriptures and the Gospel to incorperate it....You are still an atheist and God hates you for your unbelief.... 8-)


here's proof that nobody can get into heaven so get over it ok.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao

What is impossible with man is possiblewith God...it is not possible for you to save yourself by any acy of your will...you are doomed unless God acts to save you....I just cant wait till he gets rid of the Atheists once and for all on judgment day and so we wont have their endless wars and violence and evil.... 8-)


That video proves that you can't get into heaven either so f.ckoff mate.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 1st, 2013 at 1:44pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 11:19am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:58am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:28am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:08am:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

I dont need to, I know it and I also know that free will is atheism you cannot will yourself to salvation....Free will is ubnbelief, infidelity, even if you try to twist the scriptures and the Gospel to incorperate it....You are still an atheist and God hates you for your unbelief.... 8-)


here's proof that nobody can get into heaven so get over it ok.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao

What is impossible with man is possiblewith God...it is not possible for you to save yourself by any acy of your will...you are doomed unless God acts to save you....I just cant wait till he gets rid of the Atheists once and for all on judgment day and so we wont have their endless wars and violence and evil.... 8-)


That video proves that you can't get into heaven either so f.ckoff mate.



You know, if this wasn't so serious a matter, it would be laughable. Using Scripture - the Word of God - to prove something...yet believing that there is no God and that the Bible is a fairy tale. Come on, get real. Using something that you don't believe in to prove your point? POINTLESS!!


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Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:19pm
Damien,

Quote:
You know, if this wasn't so serious a matter, it would be laughable. Using Scripture - the Word of God - to prove something...yet believing that there is no God and that the Bible is a fairy tale. Come on, get real. Using something that you don't believe in to prove your point? POINTLESS!!



Using scripture to show how ridiculous it is a fine debating method.

It doesn't make sense & you have the proof.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm
'Hey ...how's that antichrist doctrine of devils, 'free will' don't judge the sinners doctrine working for you?  Just keep telling God hating animals that Jesus loves them no matter what...that will work... ;D ;D

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Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:45pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm:
'Hey ...how's that antichrist doctrine of devils, 'free will' don't judge the sinners doctrine working for you?  Just keep telling God hating animals that Jesus loves them no matter what...that will work... ;D ;D


Get a job Whitey - you lazy lump.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 11:19am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:58am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:28am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:08am:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 8:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 28th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
[quote author=corporate_whitey link=1362026804/12#12 date=1362052401]Lets see if I have got this right.

A God in all his perfection created imperfect human beings and then sentences them to an eternity of damnation for being imperfect.

How retarded is that ?


Sorry, like many others, you have got it wrong.
God created man and women in His own image. He then gave them a "will" (otherwise they would have been just robots). But using that will they deviated (sinned). They decided their destiny.
Easy, peasy!!

John 3:16 - read it!

I dont need to, I know it and I also know that free will is atheism you cannot will yourself to salvation....Free will is ubnbelief, infidelity, even if you try to twist the scriptures and the Gospel to incorperate it....You are still an atheist and God hates you for your unbelief.... 8-)


here's proof that nobody can get into heaven so get over it ok.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao

What is impossible with man is possiblewith God...it is not possible for you to save yourself by any acy of your will...you are doomed unless God acts to save you....I just cant wait till he gets rid of the Atheists once and for all on judgment day and so we wont have their endless wars and violence and evil.... 8-)


That video proves that you can't get into heaven either so f.ckoff mate.

Not so brainless, Jesus said everything he spoke, he spoke in parables deliberately so that you would not be able to understand, son do not kid yourself that atheist scum can understand the Bible because its cryptic mysteries are hidden from your eyes forever...The first thing you will know about it will be your judgment.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 3:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:45pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm:
'Hey ...how's that antichrist doctrine of devils, 'free will' don't judge the sinners doctrine working for you?  Just keep telling God hating animals that Jesus loves them no matter what...that will work... ;D ;D


Get a job Whitey - you lazy lump.

Now tell the truth, they persecuted me, enslaved me, they beat me, tortured me and they covered it up,,, and now its judgment day' I speak of judgment of the godless atheist scum of Australia..... >:(

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Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 3:17pm
I cant wait till God sends all God hating Atheist animals to hell...that will be a glorious day for him and a day of liberation for us when we will be rid of the filth forever.... 8-)

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Post by red baron on Mar 1st, 2013 at 3:47pm
Huh...Whitey, I think God would rather forgive, wasn't that Christ's last act, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

The one thing about hate, it poisons, it depletes, it spreads nothing but doom and despair. Brighten up a bit Corporate, I'm sure God would be glad to see you cheer up a bit.

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Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 3:59pm

red baron wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 3:47pm:
Huh...Whitey, I think God would rather forgive, wasn't that Christ's last act, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

The one thing about hate, it poisons, it depletes, it spreads nothing but doom and despair. Brighten up a bit Corporate, I'm sure God would be glad to see you cheer up a bit.

God does forgive...he forgave me for some reason, but just because he forgave me does not mean he has to forgive you...most of the prophets like Jeremiah, Elijah, John The Baptist ect were not known for their cheerful disposition nor feel good God loves you message you will note...God loves and forgives the repentant...not faithless, lying evil atheist scum... 8-)

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Post by red baron on Mar 1st, 2013 at 4:19pm
Whitey, Whitey, Whitey...what are we going to do with you little buddy? 

Do you go home and  eat the paint off the wall for relaxation?

Ease up a little matey, you'll burst your poofer valve!

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Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 4:26pm
God hates all faithless atheists, he considers them harlots, especially political, business, banking and religious ones...they are all doomed, damned to hell, their end is near, judgment is approaching...look, I can hear the distant thunder of horsemen approaching... >:(

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 1st, 2013 at 4:55pm

red baron wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 3:47pm:
Huh...Whitey, I think God would rather forgive, wasn't that Christ's last act, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

The one thing about hate, it poisons, it depletes, it spreads nothing but doom and despair. Brighten up a bit Corporate, I'm sure God would be glad to see you cheer up a bit.


That forgiveness comes with a condition that we accept Him. One of the last things that Christ also said was that "today you will be me in paradise" to one of the two thieves hanging also on a cross. That one got the promise because he recognised who Christ is and admitted it. We need to do the same.

Luke 23...vv38 There was a written notice above him, which read: this is the king of the jews.

39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!”

40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”

42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[d]”

43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 1st, 2013 at 5:25pm
Damien - you need to watch this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 6:11pm
Damien, if you believe in free will and Jesus loves sinners, you have not heard the Gospel yet nor repentedof sin...Free Will is atheism, infidelity and atthe heart of corruption, sin and rebellion against god...you must repent, youmust be turned, you must cry out to God with all yoiur being for mercy....perhaps he will hear you ifhe is willing and save you from everlasting punishment... 8-)

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Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 1st, 2013 at 7:36pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqkTzS02hDo

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 1st, 2013 at 7:52pm
You wont get very far blaming God on judgment day dirtbags, and you wont get far demanding your right to forgiveness and mercy...the signs of the coming judgment are so clear now all you can do is hope in trembling fear that for some reason God will choose you out of the rest of the worthless evil unbelieving vermin, but you better get on your knees and do some serious crying out and repentance....before its too late.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:44pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 6:11pm:
Damien, if you believe in free will and Jesus loves sinners, you have not heard the Gospel yet nor repentedof sin...Free Will is atheism, infidelity and atthe heart of corruption, sin and rebellion against god...you must repent, youmust be turned, you must cry out to God with all yoiur being for mercy....perhaps he will hear you ifhe is willing and save you from everlasting punishment... 8-)


Oh dear, another telly evangelist??

God gave me a free will so that I could either choose or reject Him.
With no free will you would be just a robot.
It's ones like you sprouting hate that give Christians a bad name.

God loves sinners - he gave His Son to die for them.
God hates sin.
And that, bro. is the difference between what you "preach" and what you should be thinking.
John 3:16 sounds better to me than your hatred.

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Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 5:43am

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:44pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 6:11pm:
Damien, if you believe in free will and Jesus loves sinners, you have not heard the Gospel yet nor repentedof sin...Free Will is atheism, infidelity and atthe heart of corruption, sin and rebellion against god...you must repent, youmust be turned, you must cry out to God with all yoiur being for mercy....perhaps he will hear you ifhe is willing and save you from everlasting punishment... 8-)


Oh dear, another telly evangelist??

God gave me a free will so that I could either choose or reject Him.
With no free will you would be just a robot.
It's ones like you sprouting hate that give Christians a bad name.

God loves sinners - he gave His Son to die for them.
God hates sin.
And that, bro. is the difference between what you "preach" and what you should be thinking.
John 3:16 sounds better to me than your hatred.


And you dont preach hate? I think if there was a god he would be very disappointed in your behaviour.

SOB

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 7:56am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 5:43am:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:44pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 6:11pm:
Damien, if you believe in free will and Jesus loves sinners, you have not heard the Gospel yet nor repentedof sin...Free Will is atheism, infidelity and atthe heart of corruption, sin and rebellion against god...you must repent, youmust be turned, you must cry out to God with all yoiur being for mercy....perhaps he will hear you ifhe is willing and save you from everlasting punishment... 8-)


Oh dear, another telly evangelist??

God gave me a free will so that I could either choose or reject Him.
With no free will you would be just a robot.
It's ones like you sprouting hate that give Christians a bad name.

God loves sinners - he gave His Son to die for them.
God hates sin.
And that, bro. is the difference between what you "preach" and what you should be thinking.
John 3:16 sounds better to me than your hatred.


And you dont preach hate? I think if there was a god he would be very disappointed in your behaviour.

SOB


Is that an accusation or a statement? Either way I think that you should back it up with facts. Or perhaps what others say here about you is correct?
Response.....

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Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:12pm

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:44pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 6:11pm:
Damien, if you believe in free will and Jesus loves sinners, you have not heard the Gospel yet nor repentedof sin...Free Will is atheism, infidelity and atthe heart of corruption, sin and rebellion against god...you must repent, youmust be turned, you must cry out to God with all yoiur being for mercy....perhaps he will hear you ifhe is willing and save you from everlasting punishment... 8-)


Oh dear, another telly evangelist??

God gave me a free will so that I could either choose or reject Him.
With no free will you would be just a robot.
It's ones like you sprouting hate that give Christians a bad name.

God loves sinners - he gave His Son to die for them.
God hates sin.
And that, bro. is the difference between what you "preach" and what you should be thinking.
John 3:16 sounds better to me than your hatred.

You are  a liar and you are in  sin, FYI tele evangelists do not preach the Prophetic Gospel, they do not preach against nor condemn  sin, they do not call sinners Gopd  hating scum and tell them they are facing everlasting damnation  and they also believe in Atheism, (free will) like you do... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:18pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 6:12pm:

damien wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 9:44pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 1st, 2013 at 6:11pm:
Damien, if you believe in free will and Jesus loves sinners, you have not heard the Gospel yet nor repentedof sin...Free Will is atheism, infidelity and atthe heart of corruption, sin and rebellion against god...you must repent, youmust be turned, you must cry out to God with all yoiur being for mercy....perhaps he will hear you ifhe is willing and save you from everlasting punishment... 8-)


Oh dear, another telly evangelist??

God gave me a free will so that I could either choose or reject Him.
With no free will you would be just a robot.
It's ones like you sprouting hate that give Christians a bad name.

God loves sinners - he gave His Son to die for them.
God hates sin.
And that, bro. is the difference between what you "preach" and what you should be thinking.
John 3:16 sounds better to me than your hatred.

You are  a liar and you are in  sin, FYI tele evangelists do not preach the Prophetic Gospel, they do not preach against nor condemn  sin, they do not call sinners Gopd  hating scum and tell them they are facing everlasting damnation  and they also believe in Atheism, (free will) like you do... 8-)



Part of what you say holds true..."Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
So you sin also! Unless you claim to be perfect?

Do you belong to a sect? You sound like you belong to a sect!!
I pity you - but God loves you, even though you are a sinner. That's why Jesus came to this earth in human form for.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 8:00pm
Godhaters are worthless in Gods eyes...newsflash, Jesus Christ  does not love sinners, nowhere is that blasphemy in the Bible >  I am not here to tell you  that crap but to warn you of the mortal and imanent peril you are in...Jesus came only for his elect, the lost sheep those he has chosen and predestined to ever lasting  life...the rest are doomed, predestined to destruction for their  evil sins.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm
Atheists are Godhating scum that were created for destruction in the eternal fires of hell, the bible could not be clearer on that... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 9:32pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Godhaters are worthless in Gods eyes...newsflash, Jesus Christ  does not love sinners, nowhere is that blasphemy in the Bible >  I am not here to tell you  that crap but to warn you of the mortal and imanent peril you are in...Jesus came only for his elect, the lost sheep those he has chosen and predestined to ever lasting  life...the rest are doomed, predestined to destruction for their  evil sins.... 8-)


Man, you are warped. There are oodles of instances when Jesus healed sinners. Why - because He hated them? Sorry - because He loved them. Jesus dies for sinners.
Romans 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Just for the record, are you truthful enough to let us know what denomination you follow? Not the name of the church you may attend (and I bet they have a problem with you there sprouting the same as here). The balls in your court for the truth!!

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Post by damien on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 9:33pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:
Atheists are Godhating scum that were created for destruction in the eternal fires of hell, the bible could not be clearer on that... 8-)


Well in that case, I would like to see the references that you use to back that up.
Unless of course this is just you talking hatred?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 10:25pm
What ever the antichrists and atheists say, Jesus did not die  for everyone, many are going blindly do their final doom who delude themselves that their is no God or even if there is he is soft headed and not to be feared.  Now I dont need atheist scum dressed in sheeps clothing who know nothing about the mysteries of the Gospel trying to ply their poisonous lies  that sin is not serious...sin is serious and you are going to hell whether you like it or not unless God decides to have mercy but to presume that mercy is something you are entitled to is folly...you are a worm, a maggot and you are  entitled to nothing....God only loves his own, he is selective and particular...some he loves and some he hates...you cannot read the bible any other way...You are not good  people and God owes you nothing...you are doomed.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 11:32pm

damien wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 9:33pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:
Atheists are Godhating scum that were created for destruction in the eternal fires of hell, the bible could not be clearer on that... 8-)


Well in that case, I would like to see the references that you use to back that up.
Unless of course this is just you talking hatred?


Firstly, I am talking about hatred and enmity so lets get that out of the way right now.  The Bible clearly teaches the doctrines of Grace - that is self evident...but here I offer a passage in which Jesus explains to  his disciples that he speaks in Parables deliberately to hide the truth from the understanding of those for whom salvation, or healing  is not intended for...

Quote:
Matt. 13:11-15. “Unto you it isgiven to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have abundance; but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables, because seeing they see not, and hearingthey hear not, neither do they understand. And unto them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, by hearing ye shall hear, and shall in nowise understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall in nowise perceive. For this people’sheart is waxed gross, and their earsare dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest haply they should perceive with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should turn again, and I should heal them.”


So the mysteries of  salvation are for some to whom God chooses to reveal them to, but not all...

In the next passage it is said that God tolerates those who are the objects of his wrath - ie artheists and antichrists only for the sake of the objects of his mercy...so that we would know that he is truly God who saves  and gives life as he sees fit freely and reprobates those he selects as the objects of his wrath freely...God owes you nothing...Some have been selected in advance for Glory and some to destruction, this theme is throughout the Bible from righteous Abel and  cursed Cain onwards...


Quote:
Romans 9:22-24 New International Version (NIV)

22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory—24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:44am

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 10:25pm:
What ever the antichrists and atheists say, Jesus did not die  for everyone, many are going blindly do their final doom who delude themselves that their is no God or even if there is he is soft headed and not to be feared.  Now I dont need atheist scum dressed in sheeps clothing who know nothing about the mysteries of the Gospel trying to ply their poisonous lies  that sin is not serious...sin is serious and you are going to hell whether you like it or not unless God decides to have mercy but to presume that mercy is something you are entitled to is folly...you are a worm, a maggot and you are  entitled to nothing....God only loves his own, he is selective and particular...some he loves and some he hates...you cannot read the bible any other way...You are not good  people and God owes you nothing...you are doomed.... 8-)



Whitey,
you're completley mad & you
need to see a doctor to have your medication increased.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 7:29am
Whitey, still awaiting an answer - what denomination do you follow. If you are so proud of all you are speaking, I am sure that telling us the answer to that question would be easy?

In the meantime, you should reflect on the Scriptures below regarding your hatred of others.

1 John 2:9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness.
1 John 2:11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.
1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Matthew 7:3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by Frances on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 8:27am

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Jesus did not die  for everyone


Really?  Then what about 1 Timothy 4:10?


Quote:
For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, especially of those who believe

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:37am

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 7:29am:
Whitey, still awaiting an answer - what denomination do you follow. If you are so proud of all you are speaking, I am sure that telling us the answer to that question would be easy?

In the meantime, you should reflect on the Scriptures below regarding your hatred of others.

1 John 2:9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness.
1 John 2:11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.
1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Matthew 7:3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Atheists are not my Brother or sister, they are Godhaters  the scriptures are not yours to handle to judge the saints by.  Those scriptures are those by which prophets must judge unbelievers and you  condemn yourself by seeking to judge a prophet of God with them...Note those scriptures are always qualified by >"your Brother"  Atheists are scum, thery are not my brother - God  is going to send them to hell for all eternity, they are worthy of nothing but my contempt.  The Bible says the saints will judge the world, and I judge you to be in sin for falsely handling the word of God, you are an atheist... >:(

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:48am

Frances wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 8:27am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 10:25pm:
Jesus did not die  for everyone


Really?  Then what about 1 Timothy 4:10?


Quote:
For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, especially of those who believe

Yes that scripture proves my point nicely thank you very much no man can save themselves that is why believers put our hope in him and godhating atheists put their hope in themseloves  and man saving himself... :)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:51am
Yes that scripture proves my point nicely thank you very much no man can save themselves

____________

incorrect and rubbish

with forgiveness for repeating inanity

if you do not save yourself you will be in lack

look within

or

wait for a fairygodmother

- : )

be at peace

namaste

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:53am
I love the way atheists like  to delude themselves that they are included universally in the promises of God...newsflash...the promises of God are for the church, the elect, the redeemed and those who will be redeemed, they are not for those God has rejectedm, Gods salvation does not fail, he saves everyone he intends to save ... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:54am
Atheists are not my Brother or sister, they are Godhaters

__________

such hubris

who gave you authority to say what the creator wishes

i do not hate and send love

unto all beings

with forgiveness

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:56am
Damien, you have been  avoiding this question, what is your bank account numberand your real name and address and where do you  work...what are you trying to hide? :D

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:08am
Unbelievers Are The Scum Of The Earth and God HatesThem...

Rot in Hell

________

1. god does not hate

2. there is no hell

3. be at peace

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:14am

Quote:
THE WESTMINSTER

The Bible

CONFESSION OF FAITH

The Store

(1646)


CHAPTER XXV. Of the Church.

I. The catholic or universal Church, which is invisible, consists of the whole number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one, under Christ the head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all.

II. The visible Church, which is also catholic or universal under the Gospel (not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion; and of their children: and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ, the house and family of God, out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation.

III. Unto this catholic and visible Church, Christ hath given the ministry, oracles, and ordinances of God, for the gathering and perfecting of the saints, in this life, to the end of the world; and doth by his own presence and Spirit, according to his promise, make them effectual thereunto.
:)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:20am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:08am:
Unbelievers Are The Scum Of The Earth and God HatesThem...

Rot in Hell

________

1. god does not hate

2. there is no hell

3. be at peace

namaste

- : )

Well you are just a fountain of lies and blasphemies aren't you, here are a few things that God hates,...atheism, murder, persecution of the poor, persecution of his chosen ones, liars, blasphemers, he  also hates the violent, those who covet and worship money and many more things....

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:29am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:08am:
Unbelievers Are The Scum Of The Earth and God HatesThem...

Rot in Hell

________

1. god does not hate

2. there is no hell

3. be at peace

namaste

- : )

Go to hell reprobate.... :)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:34am
Australia has no future, it is doomed...God will judge Australia like Sodom because of the Mardi  Gras and other perversions of this nation... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:44am
God hates the sexually immoral, make no mistake, no sex offender will escape hell.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 11:46am

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:44am:
God hates the sexually immoral, make no mistake, no sex offender will escape hell.... 8-)



Take some more prozac would you.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:46pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:56am:
Damien, you have been  avoiding this question, what is your bank account numberand your real name and address and where do you  work...what are you trying to hide? :D


Good to see that you are on the attack. But where oh where did you ask those questions before? Oh, what's that? Just made them up now!!

I think that you belong to some hate filled cult - unless you can provide info otherwise. What do you have to hide in identifying your denomination? Or perhaps no one wants you.

Question - how do you know that you are one of God's chosen? And if God does chose one to go to heaven and another to go to hell (which of course is not true) does that mean that the one that is God chosen can then do what he wants to do? You would have to admit that that could be the case.

NO, NO, NO!! God knows who is going to choose the right way - He does not select!! Christ died for all - not the select 144,000 that you think!! John 3:16, in your opinion must be wrong, as it says..."For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life". Are you now going to tell us all that that verse got it wrong.

SDA???

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:51pm
Proving that no one gets to go to heaven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao&playnext=1&list=PL8029D97274C6C0C4&feature=results_main

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:16pm
Doomed Doomed Doomed....


Quote:
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Mathew 24:9-14


Nowhere does the Bible say all of humanity will be saved...the promises of the Bible are for the elect...that remnant few out of every generation...like the Generation of Noah that will be saved...because I tell you the truth...most of you are perishing in unbelief and going to their destruction...but a few will be carried over the waters - the floods of tribulation to everlasting life from this wicked and adulterous generation... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:51pm:
Proving that no one gets to go to heaven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao&playnext=1&list=PL8029D97274C6C0C4&feature=results_main

Proving the Doctrines of Grace are true, that there is nothing that man can do to save himself...but with God...all things are possible and there is a remnant few who will put their hope in God, stand firm to the end and see the salvation of their souls... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:21pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:51pm:
Proving that no one gets to go to heaven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao&playnext=1&list=PL8029D97274C6C0C4&feature=results_main

Proving the Doctrines of Grace are true, that there is nothing that man can do to save himself...but with God...all things are possible and there is a remnant few who will put their hope in God, stand firm to the end and see the salvation of their souls... 8-)



Why should you be saved Whitey?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:26pm
anyone projecting that god/ the creator hates

is repeating inanity

the creator is LOVE and LIGHT

unrebutted.

it is so and so it is so be it

it is easy to hate

it takes real strength courage

and DIVINE LOVE to forgive

any whom project hatred and division is

an agent of darkness

these are forgiven as well

as decreed by heaven

be at peace

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:29pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:20am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:08am:
Unbelievers Are The Scum Of The Earth and God HatesThem...

Rot in Hell

________

1. god does not hate

2. there is no hell

3. be at peace

namaste

- : )

Well you are just a fountain of lies and blasphemies aren't you, here are a few things that God hates,...atheism, murder, persecution of the poor, persecution of his chosen ones, liars, blasphemers, he  also hates the violent, those who covet and worship money and many more things....


you are forgiven

you are an ignorant dupe repeating that

which you have no knowledge upon

the creator does not hate

we are all manifestations of

the creator

the creator does not indulge

in self loathing

all will learn their lessons in due course

without judgement yet

forgiveness compassion then grace

will always follow

be at peace

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:33pm
there is nothing that man can do to save himself

___________

not all are as helpless as you would believe

you are attempting to save yourself are'nt you?

so why utter such a lie?

im interested

with forgiveness

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:37pm
God does not forgive all, humanity is not entitled to forgiveness for its sins.  Yet God has chosen a remnant for himself to shower his love and mercy on, he has chosen the least to make them the greatest and he leaves those who are vessels of wrath as a testimony to us who are day by day being redeemed out of the nations of the fate that we have been spared...The least will be the greatest and the mighty will be brought low on that great and terrible day of the lord when mans rebellion is put down once and for all.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:39pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:37pm:
God does not forgive all, humanity is not entitled to forgiveness for its sins.  Yet God has chosen a remnant for himself to shower his love and mercy on, he has chosen the least to make them the greatest and he leaves those who are vessels of wrath as a testimony to us who are day by day being redeemed out of the nations of the fate that we have been spared...The least will be the greatest and the mighty will be brought low on that great and terrible day of the lord when mans rebellion is put down once and for all.... 8-)



Whitey - heaven & hell do not exist.

You've got one life & it's right here on earth.

You are a poor misguided soul.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:39pm
The mighty hand of God will bring low mans rebellion...you are as nothing before him...there is nothing you can do to save yourself from the coming destruction...nothing...you are doomed...doomed...doomed... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:39pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:37pm:
God does not forgive all, humanity is not entitled to forgiveness for its sins.  Yet God has chosen a remnant for himself to shower his love and mercy on, he has chosen the least to make them the greatest and he leaves those who are vessels of wrath as a testimony to us who are day by day being redeemed out of the nations of the fate that we have been spared...The least will be the greatest and the mighty will be brought low on that great and terrible day of the lord when mans rebellion is put down once and for all.... 8-)



Whitey - heaven & hell do not exist.

You've got one life & it's right here on earth.

You are a poor misguided soul.

And yet you are so insecure and incapable of honest argument that you have to use a multitude of sox from a multitude of angles to dishonesly argue your wrong position...God judges the inner most parts of mans hearts and brings the darkness to light... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm
Whitey,

Quote:
And yet you are so insecure and incapable of honest argument that you have to use a multitude of sox from a multitude of angles to dishonesly argue your wrong position...God judges the inner most parts of mans hearts and brings the darkness to light...


forgiven for false statements.

namaste

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by muso on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:46pm
Seriously, you guys need to get a room.  ;D

- but it is entertaining.


Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:51pm:
Proving that no one gets to go to heaven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao&playnext=1&list=PL8029D97274C6C0C4&feature=results_main


Hey Bobby, how can you use something that you don't believe in as proof. Are you saying that it is real, true and correct?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:51pm
There is no rebellion and there is no atheism in Gods kingdom, you are going to hell to be punished forever because that is the just punishment for sin and rebellion against God... >:(

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:51pm
Whitey how about this...is the apostle Paul going to be in heaven since he killed and had killed many early Christians. Did God forgive him?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:56pm
Romans 9:27


Quote:
Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.


Only a Remnant does God choose to save out of every generation from destruction and the flood of Noah is an allegory of that remnant salvation of God... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:59pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Romans 9:27


Quote:
Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.


Only a Remnant does God choose to save out of every generation to save from destruction and the flood of Noah is an allegory of that remnant salvation of God... 8-)



Come on Whitey, be a man - what denomination are you under?

SDA??

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:05pm

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:51pm:
Whitey how about this...is the apostle Paul going to be in heaven since he killed and had killed many early Christians. Did God forgive him?

Yes he did...but that does not mean he has to forgive you...The decision of whom God chooses to show mercy on is entirely arbitrary and according to his good pleasure...he is not accountable to you and owes you nothing...the rebellion in your heart testifies against you... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:12pm

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:59pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Romans 9:27


Quote:
Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.


Only a Remnant does God choose to save out of every generation to save from destruction and the flood of Noah is an allegory of that remnant salvation of God... 8-)



Come on Whitey, be a man - what denomination are you under?

SDA??

You are yet to give me your phone number, your bank account number, your real name and your street address...what are you trying to hide evil doer...? 8-)

BTW...SDA are millenialists...let me know if you detect me preaching a coming literal 1000 year millennial kingdom age on the earth...that could help narrow my doctrinal roots for you, but the Millarite and dispensational views of eschatology are wide spread in evangelical and sub-set cults still... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:18pm
God does not forgive all, humanity is not entitled to forgiveness for its sins.

___________

you are no authority on god

however

you are forgiven

does this comfort you?

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:28pm
The mighty hand of God will bring low mans rebellion...you are as nothing before him...there is nothing you can do to save yourself from the coming destruction...nothing...you are doomed...doomed...doomed...

____________

as i have stated

you are no authority on our CREATOR

for how can his children be nothing

unto father/mother god?

yet

you are forgiven

does this comfort you?

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:18pm:
God does not forgive all, humanity is not entitled to forgiveness for its sins.

___________

you are no authority on god

however

you are forgiven

does this comfort you?

namaste

- : )

I am a Prophet of God, you would be wise to just sit quietly and listen and learn, for I speak of what has been born in me by God, not of myself or mans wisdom...

Gods judgment hangs over you, every moment you live in mortal danger of being ripped from this earth plane of existence, your earthly body left to rot, to stand before him...

There is no tolerance of rebellion in Gods Kingdom and there are no saints in heaven who saved themselves...But hell is full of mans attempts to save himself...mans striving for independence, mans rebellion is all undone there... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:47pm
All atheists that are not turned and saved are damned to hell for all eternity...this is a fact...an unturned atheist is a mark of reprobation and Gods curse on him... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:05pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:12pm:

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:59pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Romans 9:27


Quote:
Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.


Only a Remnant does God choose to save out of every generation to save from destruction and the flood of Noah is an allegory of that remnant salvation of God... 8-)



Come on Whitey, be a man - what denomination are you under?

SDA??

You are yet to give me your phone number, your bank account number, your real name and your street address...what are you trying to hide evil doer...? 8-)

BTW...SDA are millenialists...let me know if you detect me preaching a coming literal 1000 year millennial kingdom age on the earth...that could help narrow my doctrinal roots for you, but the Millarite and dispensational views of eschatology are wide spread in evangelical and sub-set cults still... 8-)


Why do you want to know all about me - when all I aksed of you is one simple question. What denomination do you follow. It seems like you don't want to be identified with them - is something wrong with them?

I meet with a group that is connected to the Christian Brethren (NOT to be confused, as so many do, with exclusive brethren). I am not ashamed to say it. Are you ashamed of the ones that you meet with. Or are you ashamed that they might find out the hatred that you have in your heart?

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:09pm
I am a Prophet of God,

_________

i do believe this

you serve to show people that which they

do not wish to be...full of hate and judgement..

and in as much you do great work for the creator

you must be a very divine soul

and so it is

with so very much LOVE

the most powerful frequency force and energy in

the universe and beyond

be at peace

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:15pm

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:05pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:12pm:

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:59pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Romans 9:27


Quote:
Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.


Only a Remnant does God choose to save out of every generation to save from destruction and the flood of Noah is an allegory of that remnant salvation of God... 8-)



Come on Whitey, be a man - what denomination are you under?

SDA??

You are yet to give me your phone number, your bank account number, your real name and your street address...what are you trying to hide evil doer...? 8-)

BTW...SDA are millenialists...let me know if you detect me preaching a coming literal 1000 year millennial kingdom age on the earth...that could help narrow my doctrinal roots for you, but the Millarite and dispensational views of eschatology are wide spread in evangelical and sub-set cults still... 8-)


Why do you want to know all about me - when all I aksed of you is one simple question. What denomination do you follow. It seems like you don't want to be identified with them - is something wrong with them?

I meet with a group that is connected to the Christian Brethren (NOT to be confused, as so many do, with exclusive brethren). I am not ashamed to say it. Are you ashamed of the ones that you meet with. Or are you ashamed that they might find out the hatred that you have in your heart?

I follow Jesus Christ, I am numbered amongst his Ecclesia in the world..known only to him...that is all...many are called, but few are chosen...I was summoned forth from the dead like Lazerus and like all that went before me I replied, here I am Lord... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:18pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:09pm:
I am a Prophet of God,

_________

i do believe this

you serve to show people that which they

do not wish to be...full of hate and judgement..

and in as much you do great work for the creator

you must be a very divine soul

and so it is

with so very much LOVE

the most powerful frequency force and energy in

the universe and beyond

be at peace

namaste

- : )

You cannot walk in love and not hate sin and evil, you deceive yourself and remain dead in your sin... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:44pm
You cannot walk in love and not hate sin and evil

_____________

i do not hate

i am that i am

i am an eternal being having a human experience

observing you with forgiveness

without your approval and

unrebutted.

does this comfort you?

be at peace

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:59pm
God is continually confounding the wise, he saves those who the world rejects because they are the ones who have been crucified with Christ and he damns those that the world turns into their Idols.  He takes those who the world casts out and he makes them his prophets...the truth is supposed to be offensive to those who are perishing...they are not supposed to like it and its not supposed to impress their sense of justice...its just supposed to be true... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 7:03pm
The fool has said in his heart that he is god.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by damien on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 8:19pm
Whitey, it is obvious that you do have a problem. Not just in identifying those that you gather with, but with your hatred of those that Jesus dies for. Yes, it seems like you even refute Scripture which says plainly that Christ died for all (which borders on blasphemy).
You can continue with your victriolic outbursts, but I have had enough of it as so many other here have. You are certainly not doing anything to service the word of God - you are, as the Scripture says, "a wolf in sheep's clothing". Sadly you are doing what satan loves to see - people turned away from accepting the Son of God as their Saviour.

I just trust that one of these days that the scales may fall from your eyes and that you will repent sincerely of the hatred that you seem to thrive on here. If ever that happens, PM me and I will rejoice with you.

No doubt you will continue with your warped sense of "duty" - but I trust that like Paul, God's word will eventually open your eyes.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:18pm

damien wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 3:51pm:
Proving that no one gets to go to heaven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao&playnext=1&list=PL8029D97274C6C0C4&feature=results_main


Hey Bobby, how can you use something that you don't believe in as proof. Are you saying that it is real, true and correct?


No - I am saying that the Bible is idiotic.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm

Quote:
Acts 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
    which has become the cornerstone.


What we are watching play out now is the final stanza of mans attempts at empire building in rebellion to God - mans folly,mans rebellion against God, his determination to exist without God and set his own rules, mans doom.  Soon is will all be bought undone, the end comes swifly and Gods Judgments sure and certain...as they were on Sodom and Gomorrah, Egypt, Persia and Rome... The Kingdom of God is at hand.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:27pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
Acts 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
    which has become the cornerstone.


What we are watching play out now is the final stansa of mans attempts at empire building in rebellion to God - mans folly,mans rebellion against God, his determination to exist without God and set his own rules, mans doom.  Soon is will all be bought undone, the end comesswifly and Gods Judgments sure and swift...as they were on Sodom and Gamorah, Egypt, Persia and Rome... The Kingdom of God is at hand.... 8-)



Whitey,
that's all rubbish - you're an indoctrinated robot - you need deprogramming.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:39pm

Quote:
Isaiah 19
New International Version (NIV)
A Prophecy Against Egypt

19 A prophecy against Egypt:

See, the Lord rides on a swift cloud
    and is coming to Egypt.
The idols of Egypt tremble before him,
    and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear.
2 “I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian—
    brother will fight against brother,
    neighbor against neighbor,
    city against city,
    kingdom against kingdom.
3 The Egyptians will lose heart,
    and I will bring their plans to nothing;
they will consult the idols and the spirits of the dead,
    the mediums and the spiritists.
4 I will hand the Egyptians over
    to the power of a cruel master,
and a fierce king will rule over them,”
    declares the Lord, the Lord Almighty.
5 The waters of the river will dry up,
    and the riverbed will be parched and dry.
6 The canals will stink;
    the streams of Egypt will dwindle and dry up.
The reeds and rushes will wither,
7     also the plants along the Nile,
    at the mouth of the river.
Every sown field along the Nile
    will become parched, will blow away and be no more.
8 The fishermen will groan and lament,
    all who cast hooks into the Nile;
those who throw nets on the water
    will pine away.
9 Those who work with combed flax will despair,
    the weavers of fine linen will lose hope.
10 The workers in cloth will be dejected,
    and all the wage earners will be sick at heart.
11 The officials of Zoan are nothing but fools;
    the wise counselors of Pharaoh give senseless advice.
How can you say to Pharaoh,
    “I am one of the wise men,
    a disciple of the ancient kings”?
12 Where are your wise men now?
    Let them show you and make known
what the Lord Almighty
    has planned against Egypt.
13 The officials of Zoan have become fools,
    the leaders of Memphis are deceived;
the cornerstones of her peoples
    have led Egypt astray.
14 The Lord has poured into them
    a spirit of dizziness;
they make Egypt stagger in all that she does,
    as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.
15 There is nothing Egypt can do—
    head or tail, palm branch or reed.
16 In that day the Egyptians will become weaklings. They will shudder with fear at the uplifted hand that the Lord Almighty raises against them. 17 And the land of Judah will bring terror to the Egyptians; everyone to whom Judah is mentioned will be terrified, because of what the Lord Almighty is planning against them.

18 In that day five cities in Egypt will speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to the Lord Almighty. One of them will be called the City of the Sun.[a]

19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the Lord at its border. 20 It will be a sign and witness to the Lord Almighty in the land of Egypt. When they cry out to the Lord because of their oppressors, he will send them a savior and defender, and he will rescue them. 21 So the Lord will make himself known to the Egyptians, and in that day they will acknowledge the Lord. They will worship with sacrifices and grain offerings; they will make vows to the Lord and keep them. 22 The Lord will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the Lord, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.

23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. 24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing[b] on the earth. 25 The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”


Doomed... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:27pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
Acts 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
    which has become the cornerstone.


What we are watching play out now is the final stansa of mans attempts at empire building in rebellion to God - mans folly,mans rebellion against God, his determination to exist without God and set his own rules, mans doom.  Soon is will all be bought undone, the end comesswifly and Gods Judgments sure and swift...as they were on Sodom and Gamorah, Egypt, Persia and Rome... The Kingdom of God is at hand.... 8-)



Whitey,
that's all rubbish - you're an indoctrinated robot - you need deprogramming.

No,you must listen to the Prophets of God who prophesy against the godless evil empire which God will bring to ruin.... :P

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:07pm

Quote:
Isaiah 17
New International Version (NIV)
A Prophecy Against Damascus

17 A prophecy against Damascus:

“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
    but will become a heap of ruins.
2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
    and left to flocks, which will lie down,
    with no one to make them afraid.
3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
    and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
    like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
4 “In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
    the fat of his body will waste away.
5 It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
    gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
    in the Valley of Rephaim.
6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
    as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
    four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.
7 In that day people will look to their Maker
    and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.
8 They will not look to the altars,
    the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles[a]
    and the incense altars their fingers have made.
9 In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.

10 You have forgotten God your Savior;
    you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
    and plant imported vines,
11 though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
    and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
    in the day of disease and incurable pain.
12 Woe to the many nations that rage—
    they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar—
    they roar like the roaring of great waters!
13 Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
    when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
    like tumbleweed before a gale.
14 In the evening, sudden terror!
    Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
    the lot of those who plunder us.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:08pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:27pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
Acts 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
    which has become the cornerstone.


What we are watching play out now is the final stansa of mans attempts at empire building in rebellion to God - mans folly,mans rebellion against God, his determination to exist without God and set his own rules, mans doom.  Soon is will all be bought undone, the end comesswifly and Gods Judgments sure and swift...as they were on Sodom and Gamorah, Egypt, Persia and Rome... The Kingdom of God is at hand.... 8-)



Whitey,
that's all rubbish - you're an indoctrinated robot - you need deprogramming.

No,you must listen to the Prophets of God who prophesy against the godless evil empire which God will bring to ruin.... :P



Go away you reilgious fruitcake -
you need your head read.

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:22pm
Empires are mans attempt to counterfeit the Kingdom of God and thats why they will never stand...God will destroy Mans rebellion and bring it to nothing... :)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:08pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:27pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
Acts 4:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
    which has become the cornerstone.


What we are watching play out now is the final stansa of mans attempts at empire building in rebellion to God - mans folly,mans rebellion against God, his determination to exist without God and set his own rules, mans doom.  Soon is will all be bought undone, the end comesswifly and Gods Judgments sure and swift...as they were on Sodom and Gamorah, Egypt, Persia and Rome... The Kingdom of God is at hand.... 8-)



Whitey,
that's all rubbish - you're an indoctrinated robot - you need deprogramming.

No,you must listen to the Prophets of God who prophesy against the godless evil empire which God will bring to ruin.... :P



Go away you reilgious fruitcake -
you need your head read.

The only thing thats going to go away is the evil empire as more and more prophesey against it  its foundations will tremble like communism before it...,.Australia must fall, the American empire must fall.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:28pm
God hates evil atheist empires...doomed...doomed...doomed.... 8-)

Title: Re: The Pope blames God for sexual abuse !!
Post by freediver on Mar 8th, 2013 at 10:07pm

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