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Message started by Yadda on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 11:45pm

Title: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 11:45pm
'The end is nigh.'


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"KEEP CALM AND RAPE A LOT"

Rape T-Shirts: Amazon Offers 'Hit Her' Tops Too
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One comment by JV....

Quote:
JV  •  2 hours 22 minutes ago Report Abuse

    What a sick society we have. Disagree; but what I think we're seeing in this generation is all the hallmarks of the collapse of a civilisation.




Of course, this is all 'just a laugh'.



Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 11:56pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 11:45pm:
'The end is nigh.'


One comment by JV....

Quote:
JV  •  2 hours 22 minutes ago Report Abuse

    What a sick society we have. Disagree; but what I think we're seeing in this generation is all the hallmarks of the collapse of a civilisation.




This generation worships lawlessness.

Just a personal opinion.




Almost nobody today seems to have any great care about, or respect, for the rights or the property of others.

Why have we as a society of people come to this blase' attitude towards lawlessness ?







Mark 3:25
And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.






IMAGE....




Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 5:22am
Well its free speech however anyone that wears a tshirt like that will prolly notice ppl avoiding them. It is like putting a sign on them for the rest of us. Im all for it. Let them label themselves so we know.

SOB

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:00am
'Welcome to the pleasuredome.'
Frankie Goes to Hollywood, 1984



It is said that we [mankind] want peace.
That is just another lie that men speak and utter.

What we want is to experience pleasure,   ....with out cost, or consequence to ourselves.

Yes, well, dream-on.



+++



This life = = God is sorting the sheep from the goats.
God is clever.
Men are dumb.   i.e. 2 + 2 = 7     NOT!



Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:33am
Decade after decade, century after century... An obsession with death, imminent destruction and Destination : hell in a hand-basket.

Always the same tactic : Predate on the vulnerable through fear, then offer the 'only solution' : Redemption through religious obsession.

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:13pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 9:33am:
Decade after decade, century after century... An obsession with death, imminent destruction and Destination : hell in a hand-basket.

Always the same tactic : Predate on the vulnerable through fear, then offer the 'only solution' : Redemption through religious obsession.


The major problem with his argument is that the bible is essentially a handbook on rape :(

http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm


Quote:
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead  (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites    (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

3) More Murder Rape and Pillage   (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

4) Laws of Rape   (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

5) Death to the Rape Victim   (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)

7)  Rape of Female Captives   (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

8)  Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)




Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:15pm
It's always about putting it in.  :)

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:33pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:13pm:

The major problem with his argument is that the bible is essentially a handbook on rape :(



nail,

You missed the mark completely.

But, follow your own understanding.

Coz, you are such a clever fellow.
/sarc off






Deuteronomy 30:15
See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
16  In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
17  But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
18  I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
19  I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20  That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.




Do you want a 'good' life, here ?

Do you love mammon [i.e. the world] ?

Jesus advised us;

Matthew 6:32
(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.



This life is a test, that is all.

Are we wise, or, dumb children ?

Our choices in this life reveal who and what we are.

LOVE GOD, seek his righteousness.


Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 1:17pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:33pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:13pm:

The major problem with his argument is that the bible is essentially a handbook on rape :(



nail,

You missed the mark completely.

But, follow your own understanding.

Coz, you are such a clever fellow.
/sarc off






Deuteronomy 30:15
See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
16  In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
17  But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
18  I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
19  I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20  That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.




Do you want a 'good' life, here ?

Do you love mammon [i.e. the world] ?

Jesus advised us;

Matthew 6:32
(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.



This life is a test, that is all.

Are we wise, or, dumb children ?

Our choices in this life reveal who and what we are.

LOVE GOD, seek his righteousness.


cherry picking out of the bible as usual ;)

what a piss poor retort :(


Quote:
7)  Rape of Female Captives   (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

    "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.  But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb.  After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.  However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."


Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 7:43pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 1:17pm:

cherry picking out of the bible as usual ;)

what a piss poor retort :(


Quote:
7)  Rape of Female Captives   (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

    "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.  But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb.  After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.  However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."




nail,

If i were so lazy as to let you [or some other person, or some other organisation], interpret the bible for me, then, you might choose to tell me that the bible is full of evil.

And that may be YOUR opinion, of the bible.

And that would be all that i would ever 'know' about the bible - a knowledge that was filtered through the prejudices of other people.

e.g.
Your source for bible knowledge;
post #5
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm






nail,

Why should i let you, or anyone else, interpret the bible for me ?

I can read and write, i can count to 10, i know which way is up.

And i read the bible.

And that spirit that is inside me helps me to understand what the words of God mean.



Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
11  For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great.
12  What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13  His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14  The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.


Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8  The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9  The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.





Do men want, a 'rejoicing the heart' ?

Yes, i'm sure that most men do desire a 'rejoicing the heart'.

But more than that, almost all men decide to choose lawlessness, as a means to prevail in the world, as a path that they are hoping will lead to the 'rejoicing of their heart'.

They can, choose that path.

But they won't find 'rejoicing the heart'.

But they will find something;       ....The 'end', of their own pride and vanity.


Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:19pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 7:43pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 1:17pm:

cherry picking out of the bible as usual ;)

what a piss poor retort :(


Quote:
7)  Rape of Female Captives   (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

    "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.  But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb.  After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.  However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."




nail,

If i were so lazy as to let you [or some other person, or some other organisation], interpret the bible for me, then, you might choose to tell me that the bible is full of evil.


The whole point is that the bible is full of evil !!

And you don't have to interpret what is written in plain english. Only a retarded theologian would say that those passages need to be interpreted so that they say the complete opposite as to what is actually written.

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:24pm
The Bible is evil:

http://www.evilbible.com/

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:40pm
Australia must fall, the American Empire must fall...God will strike it gown and it will disappear into history like Egypt and Rome before it...down, down, down with the evil empire....Australia must fall!!!!  >:(

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by JC Denton on Mar 4th, 2013 at 4:24am
this place really has some characters at it

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:49am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 10:19pm:

The whole point is that the bible is full of evil !!


And you don't have to interpret what is written in plain english. Only a retarded theologian would say that those passages need to be interpreted so that they say the complete opposite as to what is actually written.




nail,

The bible is not full of evil.

Evil resides in men's hearts - not the Holy Bible.

The bible is just a historic account, the bible is a history, of men's dealings with other men.

Read the bible yourself, and you will see that i am telling you the truth.

The bible sets out and explains the nature of both man, and the nature of man's creator, God.





"The whole point is that the bible is full of evil !!"

The bible an account about the history and nature of mankind.

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.


Its not rocket science.

God wants us to be like Able.

Most men choose to be like Cain.

God counsels us to choose the good, but God gives us all, the freedom to choose the good, or, the evil.






+++

JC Denton,

You are not wrong.

Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:




Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:55am

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:49am:
God wants us to be like Able.

Most men choose to be like Cain.

God counsels us to choose the good, but God gives us all, the freedom to choose the good, or, the evil.



What is good ?

What is evil ?



It is God [as our creator] who determines the definition of good and the definition of evil, not man.

All that we have to do, is to choose to love and obey God, or, not.



Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:16pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:55am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:49am:
God wants us to be like Able.

Most men choose to be like Cain.

God counsels us to choose the good, but God gives us all, the freedom to choose the good, or, the evil.



What is good ?

What is evil ?



It is God [as our creator] who determines the definition of good and the definition of evil, not man.

All that we have to do, is to choose to love and obey God, or, not.


so if you obey god then you need to follow the barbaric laws of the old testament and go out and rape women !!

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:55am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:49am:
God wants us to be like Able.

Most men choose to be like Cain.

God counsels us to choose the good, but God gives us all, the freedom to choose the good, or, the evil.



What is good ?

What is evil ?



It is God [as our creator] who determines the definition of good and the definition of evil, not man.

All that we have to do, is to choose to love and obey God, or, not.


so if you obey god then you need to follow the barbaric laws of the old testament and go out and rape women !!




I see that you are still going for the argument that; "....the bible is full of evil !!" .

You prolly hate my imaginary friend, too ???

An evil bible, and, an evil God.

Right ?





Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:16pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 3:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:55am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 7:49am:
God wants us to be like Able.

Most men choose to be like Cain.

God counsels us to choose the good, but God gives us all, the freedom to choose the good, or, the evil.



What is good ?

What is evil ?



It is God [as our creator] who determines the definition of good and the definition of evil, not man.

All that we have to do, is to choose to love and obey God, or, not.


so if you obey god then you need to follow the barbaric laws of the old testament and go out and rape women !!




I see that you are still going for the argument that; "....the bible is full of evil !!" .

You prolly hate my imaginary friend, too ???

An evil bible, and, an evil God.

Right ?


and how is your paranormal friend ? Have you seen him lately ? Has he grown any severed limbs back on amputees ? ;D

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Grey on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:24pm
Did god create the devil?

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 5th, 2013 at 8:13am

Grey wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:24pm:
Did god create the devil?



hi grey.

You know that i am going to say, that God made everything.

So your next question is going to be;
Then why doesn't God 'reign in' the devil, and destroy him and his intents?

And;
Why did God create evil [beings]?




I don't know.




Ecclesiastes 7:29
Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

Perhaps that entity which is the devil, was created 'upright' too ?

And perhaps the devil corrupted himself, just like mankind have corrupted themselves ?

Is that 'process' so difficult to imagine ?

i.e.
The 'human condition' ?




1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

God wants, what is good for us.

We are his 'children'.

But we [most of us] just want, to do whatever we will.
....and let the devil take the hind most ?

We want lawlessness, with out consequence.

No ?

Look at the state of man, in this world, today.

Do you really believe that OUR politicians [and OUR other community leaders] have the capacity [within themselves] to do what is right, and to bring about peace 1/ in this world, 2/ in this country, 3/ in our community ?

Think about it;
We elect [choose] our politicians, and our politicians are merely a reflection of what we are.

They are us, we are them!





Proverbs 21:29
A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way.
30  There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
31  The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.


The wicked won't 'turn' - again, to God.

The wicked refuse to 'turn' - again, to God.

It is easy to say sorry, in our hearts, to God.

But [the carnal] man doesn't need a God, to forgive him, for his/her foolishness.

Right?       :P





+++



Revelation 14:14
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17  And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.



Is God cruel, who will judge us, for our choices, is God cruel, for judging our wicked choices ?

Is it cruel, to do justice ?

Is it cruel, to judge the wicked ?

Men say that yes, it is cruel.


Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.






Luke 18:7
And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8  I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Karnal on Mar 5th, 2013 at 8:36am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:15pm:
It's always about putting it in.  :)


Ooh!

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Grey on Mar 11th, 2013 at 11:22pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 5th, 2013 at 8:13am:

Grey wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:24pm:
Did god create the devil?



hi grey.

You know that i am going to say, that God made everything.

So your next question is going to be;
Then why doesn't God 'reign in' the devil, and destroy him and his intents?

And;
Why did God create evil [beings]?




I don't know.




Ecclesiastes 7:29
Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

Perhaps that entity which is the devil, was created 'upright' too ?

And perhaps the devil corrupted himself, just like mankind have corrupted themselves ?

Is that 'process' so difficult to imagine ?

i.e.
The 'human condition' ?




1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

God wants, what is good for us.

We are his 'children'.

But we [most of us] just want, to do whatever we will.
....and let the devil take the hind most ?

We want lawlessness, with out consequence.

No ?

Look at the state of man, in this world, today.

Do you really believe that OUR politicians [and OUR other community leaders] have the capacity [within themselves] to do what is right, and to bring about peace 1/ in this world, 2/ in this country, 3/ in our community ?

Think about it;
We elect [choose] our politicians, and our politicians are merely a reflection of what we are.

They are us, we are them!





Proverbs 21:29
A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way.
30  There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
31  The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.


The wicked won't 'turn' - again, to God.

The wicked refuse to 'turn' - again, to God.

It is easy to say sorry, in our hearts, to God.

But [the carnal] man doesn't need a God, to forgive him, for his/her foolishness.

Right?       :P





+++



Revelation 14:14
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17  And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.



Is God cruel, who will judge us, for our choices, is God cruel, for judging our wicked choices ?

Is it cruel, to do justice ?

Is it cruel, to judge the wicked ?

Men say that yes, it is cruel.


Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.






Luke 18:7
And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8  I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?



So god in your estimation, made humans badly flawed and then made an evil devil to entice them into being really really bad and you recommend that humans have faith in this god to save themselves.

Wake up and smell the coffee, take some responsibility.

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:15am

Grey wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 11:22pm:

So god in your estimation, made humans badly flawed and then made an evil devil to entice them into being really really bad and you recommend that humans have faith in this god to save themselves.


grey,

Not exactly.

I do not have a good understanding of the nature of God, nor do i have a good understanding of the nature of his creation [of which, we are a part].

I just simply, take it on faith, that God does have my best interests at heart.

And i believe that i should try, that is, try, to work with him, in my own development.




I do not know very much about God, my creator.

But i feel that i know enough about God, my creator, to trust him.iQuote:

Wake up and smell the coffee, take some responsibility.


That is good advice - for everyone.



Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Grey on Mar 12th, 2013 at 8:51pm
You did not choose your god, who you know and understand not. He was dumped into your brain with the rest of the cultural baggage of the society you grew up in. Out of the thousands of gods on offer across the planet you have a belief in one. One more than I do  ;D


Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 12th, 2013 at 10:25pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 12th, 2013 at 11:59pm

Grey wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 8:51pm:
You did not choose your god, who you know and understand not. He was dumped into your brain with the rest of the cultural baggage of the society you grew up in. Out of the thousands of gods on offer across the planet you have a belief in one. One more than I do  ;D


man created god in mans image ;D

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by thelastnail on Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:02am

Yadda wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:15am:

Grey wrote on Mar 11th, 2013 at 11:22pm:

So god in your estimation, made humans badly flawed and then made an evil devil to entice them into being really really bad and you recommend that humans have faith in this god to save themselves.


grey,

Not exactly.

I do not have a good understanding of the nature of God, nor do i have a good understanding of the nature of his creation [of which, we are a part].

I just simply, take it on faith, that God does have my best interests at heart.

And i believe that i should try, that is, try, to work with him, in my own development.




I do not know very much about God, my creator.

But i feel that i know enough about God, my creator, to trust him.


Quote:

Wake up and smell the coffee, take some responsibility.


That is good advice - for everyone.


So all of a sudden you play the dumb act and don't know anything about your god when it is convenient for you, but on the other hand you know everything about how he sentences people to hell for not believing in him ;D

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Yadda on Mar 14th, 2013 at 9:46pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:02am:

So all of a sudden you play the dumb act and don't know anything about your god when it is convenient for you, but on the other hand

you know everything about how he sentences people to hell for not believing in him ;D






Nail,

With you being a well versed 'student of scripture', with all of your copy & paste from evil.bible, i think that you know very well, that nowhere has God declared that he will send anyone to hell, because they don't believe in him, God.

In fact God does clearly state, in both the O.T. & N.T., that he does not condemn any person or persons because they are strangers to him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.




My own understanding of God's nature [from studying scripture], is that God will only condemn those of us who act irresponsibly, and those of us who act irresponsibly in a wilful way.

And in scripture, God even declares that he will forgive, and redeem, anyone who has acted irresponsibly, if they say sorry for their mistakes, sincerely, in their heart.


Dictionary;
irresponsible = = not showing a proper sense of responsibility.

Dictionary;
wilful = =
1 intentional; deliberate.
2 stubborn and determined.





Everyone has made mistakes in life.

I know that i have made mistakes.

Why wouldn't God forgive anyone, who makes a mistake, but then later, sincerely says sorry, in their heart ?

That is the quality of mercy from my creator, which i, and many others, are relying upon.

From my own understanding of God's nature, God will forgive even a murderer who sincerely says sorry.



So, who is God unlikely to forgive ?

Those who continue to act irresponsibly, wilfully.


Ezekiel 18:27
Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28  Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.







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Psalms 32:1
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2  Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.


Jeremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


What behaviour is 'good', 'responsible' ?

Micah 6:8
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 14th, 2013 at 10:07pm
Hi Yadda,
does that mean that all the church pedophiles will burn forever in hellfire & damnation?

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 15th, 2013 at 3:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2013 at 10:07pm:
Hi Yadda,
does that mean that all the church pedophiles will burn forever in hellfire & damnation?



Seriously Bobby??
How does someone get to your (apparent) age with absolutely no understanding of the basic tenets of the major religious faiths in your country?

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 15th, 2013 at 4:22pm
The end is always nigh for Satan and his Demons...destruction hovers over them at every moment...

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:22pm
I am telling you, you atheists have a warped concept of Angeloogy that is the opposite of what the Bible Teaches...the Beautiful Angels are Satan and the Demons, the really ugly Angels that terrify you by their sight are Gods Holy Angels, this is born out by the Bible and Jesus himself was one from whom people averted their eyes because he was physically ugly......those nightmares you have of terrifyingly ugly Demons tormenting you in Hell are Gods Holy Angels...they are every ugly person you tormented, picked on and excluded in your life...God is just...

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:39pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:22pm:
I am telling you, you atheists have a warped concept of Angeloogy that is the opposite of what the Bible Teaches...the Beautiful Angels are Satan and the Demons, the really ugly Angels that terrify you by their sight are Gods Holy Angels, this is born out by the Bible and Jesus himself was one from whom people averted their eyes because he was physically ugly......those nightmares you have of terrifyingly ugly Demons tormenting you in Hell are Gods Holy Angels...they are every ugly person you tormented, picked on and excluded in your life...God is just...


I don't actually have nightmares about things like that, so ...missed again..

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:45pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 15th, 2013 at 4:22pm:
The end is always nigh for Satan and his Demons...destruction hovers over them at every moment...


this is totally true

in christed light

however

the authors' motives do the aforementioned

a dis- service when said author misrepresents

the christ and hatred

for a christed being does not hate

so you are confused

thus then

forgiven

it is done

namaste



Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:47pm
there is of course one creator

many call this different things..

this is mere language

and in as much a semantical misnomer

so be it

namaste


Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:49pm
Jesus hates You...Rot In Hell Bastard Seed...

_______

the being that projects this in every post

mis-represents the christ

this is forgiven

and so it is

blessings

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 15th, 2013 at 6:51pm
Ezekiel 18:27
Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28  Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

___________

all will surrender

fear not

time is an inconsequence

and so it is

namaste

- : )

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 15th, 2013 at 7:08pm
There are those who have fallen who cannot turn because they are Demons and God has hidden the truth from their eyes...Indeed there will be many who will even say to Jesus on the day of judgment...did I not serve you and he will say...go away, I never knew you...


Quote:
Mathew 7 22:23
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!


So you who demands God accepts you just the way you are despite the fact you blaspheme him in everything you do, you who claim the Christianity must change to accept your sodomy and other perversions, you who live in splendor while your fellow man suffers...think again about your spiritual entitlements...

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 15th, 2013 at 7:46pm
Satans beautiful devils are always dreaming up ways they can eliminate Gods Holy ugly Angels, but Greater is he who is in us than he who is in the world and the A-listers and stars, those cultural idols and Icons who are devils will be punished by us and the very sight of us forever....

Title: Re: 'The end is nigh.'
Post by Grey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 3:37pm

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