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Title: 34,000 Post by hadrian_now on Mar 19th, 2013 at 9:39am
Is the number of uninvited people, not of our choosing, whom Rudd & Gillard between them are responsible for allowing into this country on boats.
We had a policy under John Howard which would have prevented this, but no, the giants of the Labor party knew better. So now we have people coming here unhindered, being given housing & benefits that could have gone to our own needy, and no end is in sight or even contemplated. Let them roll on in says Gillard. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 19th, 2013 at 9:51am
All asylum seekers are Jesus Christ himself and welcome here in Australia...Atheists on the other hand are squatters with an eviction notice hanging over their heads... :)
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Maqqa on Mar 19th, 2013 at 10:34am
I would say Labor's Boat People policy have worked magnificently
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by scope on Mar 19th, 2013 at 11:49am hadrian_now wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 9:39am:
The estimated number of people who have overstayed their visas and are in Australia at any one time was about 53 900 as at 30 June 2010. The number of overstayers equates to about 0.02 per cent of Australia's population. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 11:53am hadrian_now wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 9:39am:
The refugee conventions deems them invited. And the migration act confirms out obligation to assist people recognized as refugees. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by skippy. on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:04pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 11:53am:
And ...........as scope has proven under the lying little rodent there were tens of thousands UNINVITED, it must suck to be a knob and always wrong, though Hadrian makes a habit of it. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:15pm Maqqa wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 10:34am:
But you are a stalinistsoyourcredibility on anything is shot... |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:18pm
I'm also STILL waiting for at least one of the illiterates to PLEASE provide the information showing that when Howard had miraculously "reduced" the boat numbers he rediverted all the money he was saving to help the homeless, disadvantaged within the community. I stopped holding my breath a long time ago, but seriously hadrian if you can't provide this type of evidence then please stop posting this kind of crap. It's boring and completely without fact.
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:33pm
And UP TO 80% OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE AFGHANI ARMY DESERTERS
http://pickeringpost.com/article/up-to-80-of-illegal-immigrants-are-afghani-army-deserters/1015 |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Carl D on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:49pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
Wow... I knew there was an awful lot of taxpayers' money being wasted in this 'asylum seeker' farce but I didn't think it was that bad. Be interesting to see what our resident 'refugee advocates' have to say now. But, I have a feeling we're only going to hear crickets chirping in this thread from this point on. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:56pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 11:53am:
Aussies deem them illegals |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by red baron on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:57pm
Fear not hadrian-now, come September that problem is going to be taken care of...Just like that imposter of a Prime Minister will be taken care of...by the voting public.
That's not going to make that 34,000 go away but it will put a gate on our northern borders. A bloody big one. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 19th, 2013 at 1:02pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
keep holding your breath ale. for a very long time. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by hadrian_now on Mar 19th, 2013 at 1:27pm
All we get from alevine, apologist supreme, is the parrot-like repetition of UN convention mumbo-jumbo which no average Australian gives a toss about.
Never do we hear a word like well, maybe Rudd & Gillard shouldn't have opened the door. I guess that means he approves of everything that has been done or rather, that hasn't been done. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:04pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:56pm:
The ones who know what they're talking about don't. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by salad in on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:44pm
Get rid of these illegal, uninvited and social security bludgers. Send them back to their homelands.
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:46pm hadrian_now wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 1:27pm:
What we keep hearing, from illiterates like hadrian, is this constant fear of survival. What are you afraid of? You're pensions paid for - it's all good. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by skippy. on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:47pm salad in wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:44pm:
Yep, these ten pound pommy bastards are nothing but leeches off our economy, they should be returned from whence they came. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:47pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:56pm:
Under which law? ;D Or you mean those with an IQ of 60? ;D |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:49pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
Pickering is the reason why Labor are attempting to push their crappy media reform. But here is a man who doesn't hold true to journalism - NOTHING in his article has had any actual credibility check performed. Nothing new from the lowest of the low. And nothing new that the lowest of the low posters on this forum would be going crazy with their Mrs Palmer and her 5 sisters right now whilst reading the dumbf*** pickering ;D |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by cods on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:53pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
its probably in the same pot rudd had when he promised 50.000 homes for the homeless.back in 2007..of course we havent one homeless anymore have we??? they are now called freshair freaks. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by bigvicfella on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:54pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:49pm:
But he had this fantastic horse racing software package to sell and his drawings of men's johnsons bought him fame and glory! |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:56pm cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:53pm:
That's nice - want to provide the info I am asking for re: howard and his extra spending on the homeless as a RESULT of "reducing the cost" of asylum seekers? Or are you once again full of shi*? |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2013 at 3:01pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:49pm:
Come on, it's gotta be a credible story: it says "an employee connected to Christmas Island has claimed". What other proof do you need? ;) |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by scope on Mar 19th, 2013 at 3:42pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
So you are saying that IF we hadn't gone to war with Afghanistan we wouldn't have these refugees? So it's Howards Fault after all ;D |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2013 at 3:47pm
the same old moronic asylum seeker bashing idiots seem to be a new thread on it every week ... and no matter how many times their arguments get shot down, they repeat the same crap ...
some people are just to dumb to learn. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 19th, 2013 at 3:56pm
Atheist populism and lies needs to be front and centre at the next election campaign, I am sick of these liars hitting us with the tactics of Stalin and Hitler and hijacking the country with their lies and anti religious and anti poor agenda... :)
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:20pm scope wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 11:49am:
The overstayers aren't costing us more than a billion a year and don't drain taxpayer revenue because they don't get free housing, free household goods/appliances, taxpayer-funded welfare benefits, free health care, free phone cards to call Pakistan, free access to legal assistance to try to stay longer and don't put the lives of ADF personnel at risk and we know who they are and that they aren't potential terrorists. We can handle the overstayers - they aren't a big problem. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 3:47pm:
See above to make yourself less dumb... |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:28pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:20pm:
;D I don't know how much more of this I can take. Too funny. I especially loved the potential terrorist part ;D Will your holy dumbness be performing at the Melbourne comedy festival? |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:49pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:28pm:
Still no solution to this Labor mess from you, eh? Just content to attack others without offering any alternative. Typical leftard... |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2013 at 6:00pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:21pm:
moronic asylum seeker bashing idiot |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2013 at 7:14pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:20pm:
Yep, if we know who they are there's no way they could be "potential terrorists". |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 19th, 2013 at 7:44pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 2:49pm:
Yeh thats cool. I dont see you saying that about the labor hack site independent, so what you say is BS anyway. No harm no foul. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 7:57pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 7:44pm:
Don't read much independent. Conversation is pretty good; perhaps Pickering can get an understanding on how to use references from that? He's a fool. And you're a fool for living by every one of his words. "a friend of a friends ducks sister told us that an asylum seeker etc etc etc". ;D. Less nuts and bolts. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:06pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 7:57pm:
Well if you havent got that I refernce pickering here just to pizz the likes of you off, then you are slower than I thought. You might of figured it out by me referencing many other media. That also cancels out the 'living by blah blah BS' Thats not to say that what he says doesnt have merit, because it certainly does, just that I dont live by it, I enjoy shoving up your nose and can be quite an interesting read. Treads where others fear and all that. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:09pm
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progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:06pm:
Oh it doesn't piss me off, it just makes me think that you are very narrow minded. Especially when you think something without any credit is an interesting read that treads where others fear. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:13pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:09pm:
Oh im sure lol Just like you think others who post from the labor hack site independent are narrow minded. Yeh well, enough of your BS. Enjoy the read, because there will be more coming im sure. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:27pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:06pm:
:D :D :D :D admit it, you only reference Pickering because you're an idiot! |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:30pm John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:27pm:
admit it, you only open your mouth because you're an idiot :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:32pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:30pm:
Typically, you got that wrong, I only open my mouth to talk to an idiot ... |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:35pm John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:32pm:
Yeh well, it is always best to leave no doubt ::) ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:36pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:35pm:
Not to concern yourself, I have no doubt I am talking to an idiot! |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by scope on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:39pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 5:20pm:
Do you ever do any research before you open your mouth? 12 October 2012 Figures released by the Australian Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC) show that a record number of travellers remained in Australia illegally after their visas had expired last year. In the 12 months to June 2012 19,570 people outstayed their leave to remain in Australia. This is double the number who did so in 2007 (9330). In the month of April 2012 alone, 4,300 people outstayed their permission to remain. The figures show that a lower percentage of overstayers were deported from Australia last year than five years ago. 8,320 of the 19,570 were deported at a cost of around AUS$35-40m. Thats just the cost to deport the overstayers, Doesn't include the cost when the overstayers take jobs away from Australians, doesn't include the loss of tax they should be paying when they work illegally. I live in hope that one day you will actually start thinking for yourself instead of letting the party do your thinking for you. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:47pm scope wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:39pm:
or the cost of police resources used to catch them, detention, appeals etc .... |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by hadrian_now on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:25am moronic asylum seeker bashing idiot A contribution from John Smith, one of the highly literate - obviously not one of alevine's illiterates - advocates of the Rudd/Gillard plan to open our borders to all comers, provide them with the wherewithal to set up house, finance them, medicate them, educate them - all without any concern at all as to whether the average Australian wants them here or whether they will EVER assimilate into our society. I'd say John Smith has all the identification points of a donkey. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:49am
Australia is a nation starved of justice and integrity because of the kind of extremist right wing and left wing Atheist populism that this thread represents. This is robbing our country and it is criminal. A Christian knows that the only position to take for people seeking Asylum is to give them sanctuary if they are poor, persecuted, stateless, homeless, hungry ect. No other position can be morally justified...The causes of Atheism are designed to their own political ends and selfish ambition, not what is right...there is nothing more Atheist than right wing death squads and Guerrilla warfare...
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Maqqa on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:51am corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:49am:
you are right corp we will be much better under your Sharia Law |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:55am Maqqa wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:51am:
It can hardly be any worse than what you represent and the kind of corruption and evil you produce in the world...fortunately, Jesus teachings are sane and good where your agenda is insane and evil... |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:57am
Atheism has killed hundreds of Millions of people since the start of the 20th century alone through right wing and left wing political populism and the toll is growing...
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:23am hadrian_now wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:25am:
Amazing how someone can say that as if it's a bad thing. ::) |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:32am John Smith wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 8:36pm:
... said the Village Idiot!!! :D :D :D |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:50am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:32am:
oh is holy dumbness still going? Having you already discredited yourself in this thread, and forum? Why still reply for? |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:59am
Atheism = Kill Kill Kill Kill do what is evil Kill kill Kill Kill...
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by AaLF on Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:06pm
You fools went into iraq & Afghanistan just to please your beloved Amerika. And in doing so you ran up a big flag alerting the poor and those you yourselves disenfranchised that australia was a rich big empty land waiting to be populated. The dole etc is icing on the cake. Until then no-one even knew of such a place existing, except in fairy-tales. And don't think you're gonna dump them on Indonesia. They're refugees in transit to australia. The colonial era is over, you whiteys will not be permitted to dump your troubles on the poor of Indonesia.
So suck it up big boyz, Howard, with everyone's support, blew your "invisibility" cover. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Innocent bystander on Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:36pm
Apparently a bunch of reffos are going to sue the government over some technicality but the news isn't all bad, the lefty judge will give them all six figure payouts and then they can buy a house to wile their days away on centrelink instead of taking a house off some poor bastard thats been on a public housing waiting list for the last twenty years.
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:49pm
Atheist populism is a crime against decency and must be universally condemned... :)
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Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:29pm hadrian_now wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 10:25am:
eeoowww When in Rome do as the Romans do. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by John Smith on Mar 20th, 2013 at 6:32pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:32am:
can't think of your own you have to copy mine now???? you know what they say, imitation is the greatest form of flattery. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Peter Freedman on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:12pm red baron wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 12:57pm:
So just how is Abbott going to stop the boats? Tell me again, please. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by alevine on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:21pm Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:12pm:
he'll wish them away. It's in his policy to not have a policy. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:22am sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 11:21pm:
This issue would be a non-issue if Rudd hadn't axed the Pacific Solution policy, which was clearly working. Gillard made things much worse by going from one position to another. The current policy is a shambles and designed to fail. What is needed is a return to temporary protection visas. These visas are essential to deter these people who come by boat and are effective as they do not allow for permanent residency in the end. |
Title: Re: 34,000 Post by progressiveslol on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:44am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 6:22am:
And there is specualtion this idiot might be coming back. Geezuz labor have got a pool of no-hopers for PM. |
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