Calls for gillard to spill party positions.

Says Rudd must make challange.

:o :o

Crean puts support behind Rudd.

Sorry - thought he was putting himself up for leader

My bet is it'll be on tonight.  She must call the spill to show she has numbers.  If she holds out I'd suggest she's done for.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:07pm:

Crean puts support behind Rudd

Really???????

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:08pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:07pm: Crean puts support behind Rudd Really???????

Yep on Live on Sky now.

OMG it cant come soon enough gillard. Good F riddens, but dam it would have been nice to kick your arse to the curb at an election.

Now you can just watch the election from home and see how much you have destroyed labor.

Snap election in April I reckon.  No chance swan or gillard will remain, bielections  will be called.

Crean - a changed more disciplined Kevin....

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:13pm:

Crean - a changed more disciplined Kevin....

No chance that'll work. ;D. But theyll win votes back that's for sure.

Rudd/Crean ticket

Actually I am not confident now. Good, I want to kick gillards arse at an election.

Crean looks like a man standing alone, hoping in hell others will follow his lead.

Crean will be gone soon.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:14pm:

Crean looks like a man standing alone, hoping in hell others will follow his lead.

Seems like that hey.

Said it isn't a Rudd/Crean ticket.

Looking for a fresh start.

Says up to caucus and individuals to act.

Nah cream would have quite a bit of individual support and running a deputy would probably be to shore up any strugglers.  It's done.

Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that.

The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line.

Rider wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:26pm:

Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line.

So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope?

What an utter utter shambles.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:24pm:

Nah cream would have quite a bit of individual support and running a deputy would probably be to shore up any strugglers.  It's done.

Yeah, just trying to quickly put down what he's saying.

Anyway he's gone off air now - should be an interesting question time!!!!

Could save the ALP or sink it.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

What an utter utter shambles.

Ugh, you still here?

What does it have to do with you?

I'm an Australian, born in Australia. Not some migrant blow-in.

I care about my country and its a fking shambles the way its led right now.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:29pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: What an utter utter shambles. Ugh, you still here?

Text can be an indication

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:24pm: Nah cream would have quite a bit of individual support and running a deputy would probably be to shore up any strugglers.  It's done. Yeah, just trying to quickly put down what he's saying. Anyway he's gone off air now - should be an interesting question time!!!! Could save the ALP or sink it.

If you think about it, it's not the worst move.  Crean was the worst on Rudd 12 months ago. They can portray that if he can work with him, the rest should have no problems.  Happy family once more.

Obvious bullcrap, but then the marginals where it counts could very well swing slightly back and enough to at leat salvage something for labor.

Plus, I'd say there is a greater plan on its way.  At Least, for interests sake I hope so.

Rumor - a crying Albanese tells Gillard he can't support her any longer....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

What does it have to do with you? I'm an Australian, born in Australia. Not some migrant blow-in. I care about my country and its a fking shambles the way its led right now.

Ugh you are such a boring repetitive foolish person.  Blah blah blah, a bloody snail crossing a street is of more worth and entertainment.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:33pm:

Rumor - a crying Albanese tells Gillard he can't support her any longer....

Albanese always voted for Rudd.  But he's a decent bloke, much credit to him for actually giving a rats arse.

surprisingly rudd is not pulling out his knives for this one, he was last seen picking up a big strap on and he didn't purchase any lube.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope?

I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:36pm:

surprisingly rudd is not pulling out his knives for this one, he was last seen picking up a big strap on and he didn't purchase any lube.

If he doesnt eat the ear wax, he is going to use that.

Rider wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D

I know, wow. The best opposition leader in history. 2 crappy, incompetent PM's gone due to Abbotts ability at pointing out their short comings.

20 minutes to question time.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:33pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:31pm: What does it have to do with you? I'm an Australian, born in Australia. Not some migrant blow-in. I care about my country and its a fking shambles the way its led right now. Ugh you are such a boring repetitive foolish person.  Blah blah blah, a bloody snail crossing a street is of more worth and entertainment.

You admit to not being born in Australia.
Hence you are a blow-in.

Hence your opinion on things to do with my country are not worth a bag of sand.

bugger off elsewhere, pesky fking Russian pretending to be an Aussie.

Rumor - Staunch Rudd critic says Rudd will get up.

Rider wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D

That's always been the question -

If he is so bad - as so many on here point out - how come he wipes the floor with the Government???

Rider wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D

Tony has nothin to do with the labor party making bad decisions themselves. Tony could've beena chipmunk and the result would've been the same, if not better for the libs. 

But any party who has a policy to NOT have any policies is not a good opposition and I'm astounded you wouldn't agree.

Richard Marles (Gillard supporter) Rudd must run. Now giving a big thumbs up for Crean in leadership position.

(acting like they didn't know ::))

Question time to go ahead!!
I'm gunna be late back to work!!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:46pm:

Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:38pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D Tony has nothin to do with the labor party making bad decisions themselves. Tony could've beena chipmunk and the result would've been the same, if not better for the libs.  But any party who has a policy to NOT have any policies is not a good opposition and I'm astounded you wouldn't agree.

No. Turnbull is proof of what a poor opposition leader is.  Not Abbott. Sucks to be wrong.

Turnbull has pulled his socks up lately however, he may earn his stripes yet.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:51pm:

Question time to go ahead!! I'm gunna be late back to work!!

Apart from Albo, who do you think is going to be crying at some stage in question time.

I think gillard will put on a bit of a show. Use the woman in distress thing, just like the victim woman against a strong man that she so man hateingly has done.

No confidence motion form the Libs

>>vote

>>gone

Maybe?

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:55pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:51pm: Question time to go ahead!! I'm gunna be late back to work!! Apart from Albo, who do you think is going to be crying at some stage in question time. I think gillard will put on a bit of a show. Use the woman in distress thing, just like the victim woman against a strong man that she so man hateingly has done.

Wonder if fiesty comes out swinging lol....hopefully this shamefully inept govt is finally coming to a halt.

Rider wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:52pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:46pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:38pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D Tony has nothin to do with the labor party making bad decisions themselves. Tony could've beena chipmunk and the result would've been the same, if not better for the libs.  But any party who has a policy to NOT have any policies is not a good opposition and I'm astounded you wouldn't agree. No. Turnbull is proof of what a poor opposition leader is.  Not Abbott. Sucks to be wrong. Turnbull has pulled his socks up lately however, he may earn his stripes yet.

what are you talking about? Turnbull was leader during a time of Rudd still make very few mistakes.  It was Rudds poor listening skills to Gillard and Swan that caused him to make a crap decision with the ETS and THEN things went down hill for him.  Thanks to Gillard and Swan. Nothing to do with dumb Tony who is still hated within the electorate, just a little bit less so than gillard.

I must say its refreshing to see labor members talking openly and candidly about this now.

This is good that this is being dealt with now. Hopefully this can be resolved and they can get on with the real job of keeping phoney Toney out.

Gillard

"ballot for leadership and deputy at 4.30 - now take your best shot"

Rider wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:59pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:55pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:51pm: Question time to go ahead!! I'm gunna be late back to work!! Apart from Albo, who do you think is going to be crying at some stage in question time. I think gillard will put on a bit of a show. Use the woman in distress thing, just like the victim woman against a strong man that she so man hateingly has done. Wonder if fiesty comes out swinging lol....hopefully this shamefully inept govt is finally coming to a halt.

She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:02pm:

Gillard "ballot for leadership and deputy at 4.30 - now take your best shot"

CELEBRATION!

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:02pm:

Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:59pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:55pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:51pm: Question time to go ahead!! I'm gunna be late back to work!! Apart from Albo, who do you think is going to be crying at some stage in question time. I think gillard will put on a bit of a show. Use the woman in distress thing, just like the victim woman against a strong man that she so man hateingly has done. Wonder if fiesty comes out swinging lol....hopefully this shamefully inept govt is finally coming to a halt. She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude.

Looks pretty brave and holding her nerve well IMO.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:02pm:

She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude.

rude: reads strong and authoritative.

I know you libs must be devastated that Gillard has time and time again refused to buckle to the incessant campaign of smeer against her. She was supposed to last less than 12 months after the 2010 election remember? Craig Thomson, Peter Slipper, carbon tax, every time it was supposed to be the final nail. And yet here she is - still standing.

Abbott makes the call....

(YAY SOB standing orders susspended - maybe)

This is like Christmas come early for this guy tonight...

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sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:46pm:

Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:38pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D Tony has nothin to do with the labor party making bad decisions themselves. Tony could've beena chipmunk and the result would've been the same, if not better for the libs.  But any party who has a policy to NOT have any policies is not a good opposition and I'm astounded you wouldn't agree.

they have policies. they just arent announcing them until there is an actual election.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:18pm:

This is like Christmas come early for this guy tonight...

No. For this guy and Australia.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:10pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:02pm: She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude. rude: reads strong and authoritative. I know you libs must be devastated that Gillard has time and time again refused to buckle to the incessant campaign of smeer against her. She was supposed to last less than 12 months after the 2010 election remember? Craig Thomson, Peter Slipper, carbon tax, every time it was supposed to be the final nail. And yet here she is - still standing.

like hitler was standing midst the rubble of his country. GREAT comparison!

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:46pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:38pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D Tony has nothin to do with the labor party making bad decisions themselves. Tony could've beena chipmunk and the result would've been the same, if not better for the libs.  But any party who has a policy to NOT have any policies is not a good opposition and I'm astounded you wouldn't agree. they have policies. they just arent announcing them until there is an actual election.

I've read their policy document. It was very much "policy is to not have a policy".  Utter crap.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:46pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:38pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:27pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:26pm: Crean actually acts like an adult. i give him full points for that. The sooner this happens the better, don't care for Labor at all, but we need good people from both sides and good oppositions to keep good governments in line. So will you be demanding tony also bugger off I hope? I could, but it would be wrong, Tony has dispatched one elected PM, looks like his second PM scalp is a matter of hours away...and you think he isn't running a good opposition  ;D ;D Tony has nothin to do with the labor party making bad decisions themselves. Tony could've beena chipmunk and the result would've been the same, if not better for the libs.  But any party who has a policy to NOT have any policies is not a good opposition and I'm astounded you wouldn't agree. they have policies. they just arent announcing them until there is an actual election. I've read their policy document. It was very much "policy is to not have a policy".  Utter crap.

try reading my post again... they aren't announcing their policies until an actual election - just like Rudd in 2007, Latham in 2004 and every other election since 1996.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:07pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:02pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:59pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:55pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:51pm: Question time to go ahead!! I'm gunna be late back to work!! Apart from Albo, who do you think is going to be crying at some stage in question time. I think gillard will put on a bit of a show. Use the woman in distress thing, just like the victim woman against a strong man that she so man hateingly has done. Wonder if fiesty comes out swinging lol....hopefully this shamefully inept govt is finally coming to a halt. She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude. Looks pretty brave and holding her nerve well IMO.

she's saying quite a lot of right things.  Too bad she just can't sell when it's crunch time. :( 

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:25pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:10pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:02pm: She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude. rude: reads strong and authoritative. I know you libs must be devastated that Gillard has time and time again refused to buckle to the incessant campaign of smeer against her. She was supposed to last less than 12 months after the 2010 election remember? Craig Thomson, Peter Slipper, carbon tax, every time it was supposed to be the final nail. And yet here she is - still standing. like hitler was standing midst the rubble of his country. GREAT comparison!

I watched V for Vendetta the other night. Timely. The governemnt in the movie.....Gillard/labor.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:32pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:07pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:02pm: Rider wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:59pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:55pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 12:51pm: Question time to go ahead!! I'm gunna be late back to work!! Apart from Albo, who do you think is going to be crying at some stage in question time. I think gillard will put on a bit of a show. Use the woman in distress thing, just like the victim woman against a strong man that she so man hateingly has done. Wonder if fiesty comes out swinging lol....hopefully this shamefully inept govt is finally coming to a halt. She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude. Looks pretty brave and holding her nerve well IMO. she's saying quite a lot of right things.  Too bad she just can't sell when it's crunch time. :(

It would seem she suffers from he same issues as Rudd – wanting to do it her way, lack of communication/involvement/consultation with other members etc.

As you mentioned, failure to sell the policies.

Crean has been sacked by Gillard.

The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!

WOW, i suppose she had to?

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:25pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:10pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:02pm: She looks so stuck up, red eyed (waaaa) and actually rude. rude: reads strong and authoritative. I know you libs must be devastated that Gillard has time and time again refused to buckle to the incessant campaign of smeer against her. She was supposed to last less than 12 months after the 2010 election remember? Craig Thomson, Peter Slipper, carbon tax, every time it was supposed to be the final nail. And yet here she is - still standing. like hitler was standing midst the rubble of his country. GREAT comparison! I watched V for Vendetta the other night. Timely. The governemnt in the movie.....Gillard/labor.

Way to miss the point of the movie.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to?

all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:54pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.

Wow.

First the hitler comparison.

And now the dictator one.





Tad hyperbolic dont you think?

Aussie dollar on the downward - they should spill the leadership every day for the next couple of months.

I haven't heard anything from Crean about him supporting Rudd. What are you talking about?

Forgot that the Deputy P.M. position will be declared vacant too...If Gillard and Swan go together, that will be all too much good news in one day.

I don't think I could cope with all that good news in one go.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates. Wow. First the hitler comparison. And now the dictator one. Tad hyperbolic dont you think?

only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:03pm:

I haven't heard anything from Crean about him supporting Rudd. What are you talking about?

Its on very newspaper

red baron wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:04pm:

Forgot that the Deputy P.M. position will be declared vacant too...If Gillard and Swan go together, that will be all too much good news in one day. I don't think I could cope with all that good news in one go.

if Rudd wins, both of them will be on the backbench, Crean could end up as treasurer - a job he has been in before.

do you have any quotes alevine?

from ABC:


Quote:

Ms Gillard moved after party elder Simon Crean called for the leadership to be thrown open, and demanded Kevin Rudd stand against Ms Gillard. "I don't want any more games, I'm sick to death of it, it's about time he stood up and instead of having his camp leak things, actually have the courage of his conviction and his belief," Mr Crean said.

doesn't sound like support to me.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:05pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates. Wow. First the hitler comparison. And now the dictator one. Tad hyperbolic dont you think? only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well

Dictators calling for a vote on whether they stay or not?


I dont think that word means what you think it means.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:54pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates.

Well no.

He came put a said he no longer supports Gillard and the ALP needs to change the way it is run. That they had lost the support of the voters. That Rudd had to stand up now or never. It’s all a bit more complex than just saying he supports Rudd.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:05pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates. Wow. First the hitler comparison. And now the dictator one. Tad hyperbolic dont you think? only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well Dictators calling for a vote on whether they stay or not? I dont think that word means what you think it means.

And Gillard isnt german either. I figured you to be smart enough to get the point without being quite as silly about it as you have been.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates. Well no. He came put a said he no longer supports Gillard and the ALP needs to change the way it is run. That they had lost the support of the voters. That Rudd had to stand up now or never. It’s all a bit more complex than just saying he supports Rudd.

but he very clearly does not support Gillard which is pretty much what is up for grabs.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:23pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:20pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates. Well no. He came put a said he no longer supports Gillard and the ALP needs to change the way it is run. That they had lost the support of the voters. That Rudd had to stand up now or never. It’s all a bit more complex than just saying he supports Rudd. but he very clearly does not support Gillard which is pretty much what is up for grabs.

Yep, definitely doesn’t support Gillard.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!!

Crean has more experience and integrity, and is undoubledly more
honest than just about anyone else in the Labor party.

And certainly more so than anyone in the Con-alition.

For this woman to sack him is stupidity personified.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 12:14pm:

Actually I am not confident now. Good, I want to kick gillards arse at an election. Crean looks like a man standing alone, hoping in hell others will follow his lead. Crean will be gone soon.

Poor ol crean. He was the only one that made sense, but to put yourself on the line like that, he must have really had low hopes for labor under gillard.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:21pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:09pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:05pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 2:00pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:54pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:52pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! WOW, i suppose she had to? all he has done is supported Rudd. thats not a really the way a true leader operates. it is however how a dictator operates. Wow. First the hitler comparison. And now the dictator one. Tad hyperbolic dont you think? only if it is wrong. Gillard seems quite happy to take labor to an anihilation as long as she gets to stay as leader. That is very hitlereaque...  An dictators do have a habit of executing messengers with bad news or those who question their decisions. So I will stay with 'dictator' being VERY appropriate as well Dictators calling for a vote on whether they stay or not? I dont think that word means what you think it means. And Gillard isnt german either. I figured you to be smart enough to get the point without being quite as silly about it as you have been.

She's not german, not hitler and not a dictator.

So what was the point of you referencing hitler and dictators


Only one of us was being silly and it wasnt me.

Kat wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 2:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2013 at 1:50pm: Crean has been sacked by Gillard. The woman really knows how to make enemies!!! Crean has more experience and integrity, and is undoubledly more honest than just about anyone else in the Labor party. And certainly more so than anyone in the Con-alition. For this woman to sack him is stupidity personified.

Now you are just being silly. Sure he has more integrity than most of labor put together, but dont go too far with that comparing him to another party.