That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory.
He hasn't changed, so what has?

And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion

Yes it is a beautiful time to be an Australian and centre to centre right at the moment. The left are pooing in their pants.

Such a wonderful sight

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:39pm:

And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion

Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs.

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs.

How did they hide him?

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Yes it is a beautiful time to be an Australian and centre to centre right at the moment. The left are pooing in their pants. Such a wonderful sight

When a canary like progs starts singing, you know we're heading for some deep sh!t.

MOTR wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:52pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Yes it is a beautiful time to be an Australian and centre to centre right at the moment. The left are pooing in their pants. Such a wonderful sight When a canary like progs starts singing, you know we're heading for some deep sh!t.

When the left start crying BS platitudes of the opposition who is not left, you know Australia is on the right track.

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:48pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs. How did they hide him?

Oh lol, this isn't a smacking game, if you won't to play, bugger off. :-?

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

MOTR wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:52pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Yes it is a beautiful time to be an Australian and centre to centre right at the moment. The left are pooing in their pants. Such a wonderful sight When a canary like progs starts singing, you know we're heading for some deep sh!t. When the left start crying BS platitudes of the opposition who is not left, you know Australia is on the right track.

You're not even close to centre, progs. You're an extremist.

MOTR wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:55pm: MOTR wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:52pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Yes it is a beautiful time to be an Australian and centre to centre right at the moment. The left are pooing in their pants. Such a wonderful sight When a canary like progs starts singing, you know we're heading for some deep sh!t. When the left start crying BS platitudes of the opposition who is not left, you know Australia is on the right track. You're not even close to centre, progs. You're an extremist.

Thanks. Being regarded as an extremist by an extremist lefty is a feel good moment.

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:48pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs. How did they hide him? Oh lol, this isn't a smacking game, if you won't to play, bugger off. :-?

So you claim they hid him

But when asked to provide proof - all you got is personal abuse  ;D ;D ;D

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs.

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

;D

The loops are like rAbbotts in the headlights.
>
>
Nut-job nut-job haunting my dreams.

In his red speedos he's not what he seems.

Woman basher, sexist, misogynist extreme.

Nut-job nut-job haunting my dreams.

;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igd8XWUj3Cc&sns=em

This is why the want to hide him. He's like an actor who can't quite get his lines right.

MOTR wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igd8XWUj3Cc&sns=em This is why the want to hide him. He's like an actor who can't quite get his lines right.

So it could be never

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:03pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:48pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs. How did they hide him? Oh lol, this isn't a smacking game, if you won't to play, bugger off. :-? So you claim they hid him But when asked to provide proof - all you got is personal abuse  ;D ;D ;D

Still no answer from the fanboy.  ::) I can't wait for the women basher to be leader, the quicker the prick is leader the quicker the country will reject him.

Onya, Tones.....

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skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:37pm:

That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has?

Labor has simply performed suicide.  It's in such a dire circumstance that even the likes of Bronwen Bishop would win as a leader. Absolute disgrace that we are left with such choices in Australian politics. And nothing good can come out of it at all - only the same crap that will ensure this country doesn't move forward but stays at a standstill. 21 years of growth, 12th largest economy in the world, and we are still acting like a 5 year old child who didn't get the toy we wanted.  Just look at the topics on the forum today - once again nonstop "illegals illegals illegals".  This is what has become acceptable in our society.   Ad nauseum.

Lobo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Onya, Tones.....

So?

Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking?

Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best?

:-/

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? Labor has simply performed suicide.  It's in such a dire circumstance that even the likes of Bronwen Bishop would win as a leader. Absolute disgrace that we are left with such choices in Australian politics. And nothing good can come out of it at all - only the same crap that will ensure this country doesn't move forward but stays at a standstill. 21 years of growth, 12th largest economy in the world, and we are still acting like a 5 year old child who didn't get the toy we wanted.  Just look at the topics on the forum today - once again nonstop "illegals illegals illegals".  This is what has become acceptable in our society.   Ad nauseum.

Yes, illegals are an issue which concern many voters

Yes, it's been engineered so that our 'choices' are between this or that owned puppet

Sports politics.  My team agin your team.  Black vs white. 

Same orchestration has been accomplished in the US

In Europe, where people are more inclined to get off their backsides in defence of their lives and futures, they're organising alternative parties

In Australia, we're so polite, so crippled by our indoctrination in political correctness and so terrified, apparently, of the words 'racism', 'racist'

but give it time

Australia is becoming home to European in addition to the floods of uneducated, Saudi-sponsored muslims and Africans who're apparently immune to Australian law

Hopefully, those European New-Australians won't lose their fight during their 27 hour flight to this hot rock

Hopefully they'll see in Australia an echo of what was imposed upon Europe

Hopefully they'll decide to stand and fight, because Australia is basically white man's last stand

and hopefully they'll motivate, encourage and shame Aussies into rediscovering their spine

Would be nice to have some viable alternative political parties in Australia, wouldn't it.  I say 'yes', 'damn yes'

All it will take is for Australians to avoid fora such as this one, which is basically a tool used to convince Aussies that a choice between Labor and Libs is all they have

By now, most Aussies are aware that there ARE NO TWO PARTIES.  Instead, it's the one joke party wearing two fake faces -- run from offshore, dictated by USrael and prodded and pushed by the characters who hold a monopoly on the so-called 'news'

Time for Australians to get angry and toss the shadow-government back to where it came from, as it's been tossed out of so many countries going back 2000 years

Time for Aussies to demand more from the scum known collectively as 'politicians'.  Time to bring back hanging, which is the penalty for Treason.  And man, we've had one treasonous set of political ratbags after another

A few dead politicians would do Australia the world of good.  It would send most current politicians and union scum running for their bolt holes o'seas, for one.  And would put all future politicians on warning that we are not going to cop it any more

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:48pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs. How did they hide him?

After he imbarrised himself sever times on policy questions the Liberals instructed him to stay away from the madia and to make no public comments on policy.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/

There is no problem in someone's thinking being changed. But how many times? And with that, surely it isn't just the thinking but also the policies that go with that should change? ANd yet here is a simply case of Tony trying to make sure he doesn't say something stupid. He did, and he quickly changed it. But the policy didn't follow so we know his original stupid thought is what he actually beleives.

And how many times can one say, "in hindsight", before we get sick of it and realise the guy's a dill?

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:48pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs. How did they hide him? After he imbarrised himself sever times on policy questions the Liberals instructed him to stay away from the madia and to make no public comments on policy.

in 2007?

when?

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:47pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? Labor has simply performed suicide.  It's in such a dire circumstance that even the likes of Bronwen Bishop would win as a leader. Absolute disgrace that we are left with such choices in Australian politics. And nothing good can come out of it at all - only the same crap that will ensure this country doesn't move forward but stays at a standstill. 21 years of growth, 12th largest economy in the world, and we are still acting like a 5 year old child who didn't get the toy we wanted.  Just look at the topics on the forum today - once again nonstop "illegals illegals illegals".  This is what has become acceptable in our society.   Ad nauseum. Yes, illegals are an issue which concern many voters Yes, it's been engineered so that our 'choices' are between this or that owned puppet Sports politics.  My team agin your team.  Black vs white.  Same orchestration has been accomplished in the US In Europe, where people are more inclined to get off their backsides in defence of their lives and futures, they're organising alternative parties In Australia, we're so polite, so crippled by our indoctrination in political correctness and so terrified, apparently, of the words 'racism', 'racist' but give it time Australia is becoming home to European in addition to the floods of uneducated, Saudi-sponsored muslims and Africans who're apparently immune to Australian law Hopefully, those European New-Australians won't lose their fight during their 27 hour flight to this hot rock Hopefully they'll see in Australia an echo of what was imposed upon Europe Hopefully they'll decide to stand and fight, because Australia is basically white man's last stand and hopefully they'll motivate, encourage and shame Aussies into rediscovering their spine Would be nice to have some viable alternative political parties in Australia, wouldn't it.  I say 'yes', 'damn yes' All it will take is for Australians to avoid fora such as this one, which is basically a tool used to convince Aussies that a choice between Labor and Libs is all they have By now, most Aussies are aware that there ARE NO TWO PARTIES.  Instead, it's the one joke party wearing two fake faces -- run from offshore, dictated by USrael and prodded and pushed by the characters who hold a monopoly on the so-called 'news' Time for Australians to get angry and toss the shadow-government back to where it came from, as it's been tossed out of so many countries going back 2000 years Time for Aussies to demand more from the scum known collectively as 'politicians'.  Time to bring back hanging, which is the penalty for Treason.  And man, we've had one treasonous set of political ratbags after another A few dead politicians would do Australia the world of good.  It would send most current politicians and union scum running for their bolt holes o'seas, for one.  And would put all future politicians on warning that we are not going to cop it any more

Aside from the ad nauseum relating to your 1750s thinking, I'd say I would agree with your desire for a fight to demand additional political representation. 

Empty vessels make most noise

9000 plus posts

mercifully I've only had to read a few on the occasions I've visited this forum

and with any luck, won't have to read many more

Deal ?  Good.  Now run back to watching X-factor, huh and stretching a coffee over several hours as excuse for taking up a seat on the footpath

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:48pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:41pm: Maqqa wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:39pm: And Labor have shunned the one mad-man that have a chance to bring them back from oblivion Care to answer? Howard and the Libs considered Abbott so bad they hid him in the 2007 election now he is about to lead them to an election he could well win, what has changed! He hasn't, he's still a  nut job supported by the extreme nut jobs. How did they hide him? After he imbarrised himself sever times on policy questions the Liberals instructed him to stay away from the madia and to make no public comments on policy.

You're wasting your time, the retards are having a weekend long wankathon.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:53pm: Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/ There is no problem in someone's thinking being changed. But how many times? And with that, surely it isn't just the thinking but also the policies that go with that should change? ANd yet here is a simply case of Tony trying to make sure he doesn't say something stupid. He did, and he quickly changed it. But the policy didn't follow so we know his original stupid thought is what he actually beleives. And how many times can one say, "in hindsight", before we get sick of it and realise the guy's a dill?

Thought you were talking about the Mining tax, Carbon Tax, Media laws.

All policies that changed, some that just failed, some to placate the formation of government, that apply to the opening lines of your post.

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

Empty vessels make most noise 9000 plus posts mercifully I've only had to read a few on the occasions I've visited this forum and with any luck, won't have to read many more Deal ?  Good.  Now run back to watching X-factor, huh and stretching a coffee over several hours as excuse for taking up a seat on the footpath

9800 posts :) And actually I'm presently enjoying a very good novel. When you learn to read at an adult level I might lend it to you, if you like?  But in the meantime I guess you can go back to your medieval era thinking and shaking on your rocking chair, all in fear of people that may not look exactly the same as you. But then, not all weigh 300kg, so I'm surprised you only have a fear of those with different shade skin. 

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:11pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:53pm: Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/ There is no problem in someone's thinking being changed. But how many times? And with that, surely it isn't just the thinking but also the policies that go with that should change? ANd yet here is a simply case of Tony trying to make sure he doesn't say something stupid. He did, and he quickly changed it. But the policy didn't follow so we know his original stupid thought is what he actually beleives. And how many times can one say, "in hindsight", before we get sick of it and realise the guy's a dill? Thought you were talking about the Mining tax, Carbon Tax, Media laws. All policies that changed, some that just failed, some to placate the formation of government, that apply to the opening lines of your post.

And as you may have noticed, I am not a fan of the Gillard approach either, and have ssaid many times they shouldn't have pampered on the mining tax but kept the original design. But what you're suggesting consistently by always bringing it back to Gillard is that you want the same approach to conitnue, under Abbott. and that I don't think is the right way forward. At all. Hence why I say, NO to Gillard, and NO to Tony.

That's the problems with retards , if you dont support the women basher you must support fanta pants. ::)

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

That's the problems with retards , if you dont support the women basher you must support fanta pants. ::)

womEn basher?

who?

how many did he/she bashed?

Chanting the mantra:  ' All you have are choices between Libs and Labor'

Fortunately this forum is extremely under patronised

No surprise

The Paid-to-Post desperates seem to consider this home

Australia moves straight past it

Virtually nowhere in this forum -- be it this weekend or other -- is there any serious discussion of alternative parties

The 'why' is obvious

Blunt tools being paid paltry shekels to chant the mantra
' Your choices are Libs or Labor'

Change is coming.  Has to come.  Even dumbclucks realise now that there is NO DIFFERENCE between the pretend two fake-parties

Aussies are active now in massive international fora

They see what the fake two party system did to the US and UK, etc.

Aussies know who's behind it

Aussies are waking up

Which is why the panic to control thought and speech by Gillard on instruction from her owners

You think it's done?  No, Abbott will continue the agenda if he lucks in.  Abbott is owned by the same scum who own Gillard

We shouldn't be paying politicians because they're simply middle-men for the middle-men.  Australia is run and controlled from offshore

Aussies know it and are telling their friends

I will never vote for Abbott.  Abbott was the guy who organised the destruction of Pauline Hanson

Pauline Hanson remains popular

Other Pauline's are in the wings

The worse the abuses by the fake two party system, the more the population will demand and create alternatives

If Australia's defacto rulers attempt to suppress it, it will grow ever more rapidly

Ironically, it's migrants who lead the charge against further migration.  The 'racist', 'racism' BS will be laughed into oblivion as Aussies and migrants join ranks against the true enemies of this land

The most strident opposition to the current fake two party system comes from migrants

It's gone as far as it can go.  No one wants Gillard or Abbott nor Libs nor Labor.  They're old sandshoes that people want to see tossed in the trash

What other choice then?  Citizen electoral council?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:17pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:11pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:53pm: Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/ There is no problem in someone's thinking being changed. But how many times? And with that, surely it isn't just the thinking but also the policies that go with that should change? ANd yet here is a simply case of Tony trying to make sure he doesn't say something stupid. He did, and he quickly changed it. But the policy didn't follow so we know his original stupid thought is what he actually beleives. And how many times can one say, "in hindsight", before we get sick of it and realise the guy's a dill? Thought you were talking about the Mining tax, Carbon Tax, Media laws. All policies that changed, some that just failed, some to placate the formation of government, that apply to the opening lines of your post. And as you may have noticed, I am not a fan of the Gillard approach either, and have ssaid many times they shouldn't have pampered on the mining tax but kept the original design. But what you're suggesting consistently by always bringing it back to Gillard is that you want the same approach to conitnue, under Abbott. and that I don't think is the right way forward. At all. Hence why I say, NO to Gillard, and NO to Tony.

Gillard's the PM....

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:17pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:11pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:53pm: Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/ There is no problem in someone's thinking being changed. But how many times? And with that, surely it isn't just the thinking but also the policies that go with that should change? ANd yet here is a simply case of Tony trying to make sure he doesn't say something stupid. He did, and he quickly changed it. But the policy didn't follow so we know his original stupid thought is what he actually beleives. And how many times can one say, "in hindsight", before we get sick of it and realise the guy's a dill? Thought you were talking about the Mining tax, Carbon Tax, Media laws. All policies that changed, some that just failed, some to placate the formation of government, that apply to the opening lines of your post. And as you may have noticed, I am not a fan of the Gillard approach either, and have ssaid many times they shouldn't have pampered on the mining tax but kept the original design. But what you're suggesting consistently by always bringing it back to Gillard is that you want the same approach to conitnue, under Abbott. and that I don't think is the right way forward. At all. Hence why I say, NO to Gillard, and NO to Tony. Gillard's the PM....

Not for much longer. And if you are looking for a real alternative, then you shouldn't try to compare that alternative to Gillard based on the same characteristics.  Rather, you should hope to aim higher.    "Tony's okay because Gillard does it too" is NOT how to judge an alternative.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:45pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:22pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:17pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:11pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:53pm: Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/ There is no problem in someone's thinking being changed. But how many times? And with that, surely it isn't just the thinking but also the policies that go with that should change? ANd yet here is a simply case of Tony trying to make sure he doesn't say something stupid. He did, and he quickly changed it. But the policy didn't follow so we know his original stupid thought is what he actually beleives. And how many times can one say, "in hindsight", before we get sick of it and realise the guy's a dill? Thought you were talking about the Mining tax, Carbon Tax, Media laws. All policies that changed, some that just failed, some to placate the formation of government, that apply to the opening lines of your post. And as you may have noticed, I am not a fan of the Gillard approach either, and have ssaid many times they shouldn't have pampered on the mining tax but kept the original design. But what you're suggesting consistently by always bringing it back to Gillard is that you want the same approach to conitnue, under Abbott. and that I don't think is the right way forward. At all. Hence why I say, NO to Gillard, and NO to Tony. Gillard's the PM.... Not for much longer. And if you are looking for a real alternative, then you shouldn't try to compare that alternative to Gillard based on the same characteristics.  Rather, you should hope to aim higher.    "Tony's okay because Gillard does it too" is NOT how to judge an alternative.

The comparison is yours, i have just expanded on it. leftrightrightleft.....

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

What other choice then?  Citizen electoral council?

Necessity, mother of invention

Other choices will emerge

There will be confusion, yes.  There will be fallout.  But eventually (measured in today's sped-up time frame) viable alternatives will emerge & will be supported

Wiki lists those parties, big in their day, which fell by the wayside

Libs and Labor both are resolutely out of touch with the people

Australia's changed.  It deserves politicians and parties which reflect the changes

The people will determine the future of politics.  And the people are dismissive of the media's belief it has the power to 'form and shape' public opinion.  The media's as much on the nose as politics/politicians.  No surprise.  They're all from the same stable

Abbott-Libs, Gillard-Labour both stink in the opinion of voters.  Both corrupt.  Both guilty of rank mismanagement.  Both infantile in behaviours and policies

Sure, one of the supposed Big Two (but in actuality ONE) will get through the next election.  But today more than ever before, people do not elect a party to govern.  Instead, voters elect to rid themselves of the other.  And it's been that way for a long time

Howard claimed (like so many after him) that voters had handed him a mandate to do this, do that.  No.  Weasel Howard got in because it was the only way to get rid of the previous slimeball.  Labor didn't 'win' over the Libs.  It was the only way to be rid of Howard.  On and on.  People are weary of what's on offer.  Weariness becomes outrage.  The world hasn't really seen an outraged Australia.  It's past time ...

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:34pm: What other choice then?  Citizen electoral council? Necessity, mother of invention Other choices will emerge There will be confusion, yes.  There will be fallout.  But eventually (measured in today's sped-up time frame) viable alternatives will emerge & will be supported Wiki lists those parties, big in their day, which fell by the wayside Libs and Labor both are resolutely out of touch with the people Australia's changed.  It deserves politicians and parties which reflect the changes The people will determine the future of politics.  And the people are dismissive of the media's belief it has the power to 'form and shape' public opinion.  The media's as much on the nose as politics/politicians.  No surprise.  They're all from the same stable Abbott-Libs, Gillard-Labour both stink in the opinion of voters.  Both corrupt.  Both guilty of rank mismanagement.  Both infantile in behaviours and policies Sure, one of the supposed Big Two (but in actuality ONE) will get through the next election.  But today more than ever before, people do not elect a party to govern.  Instead, voters elect to rid themselves of the other.  And it's been that way for a long time Howard claimed (like so many after him) that voters had handed him a mandate to do this, do that.  No.  Weasel Howard got in because it was the only way to get rid of the previous slimeball.  Labor didn't 'win' over the Libs.  It was the only way to be rid of Howard.  On and on.  People are weary of what's on offer.  Weariness becomes outrage.  The world hasn't really seen an outraged Australia.  It's past time ...

Hi mellie!

;)

Aussie wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 4:25pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 4:04pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:34pm: What other choice then?  Citizen electoral council? Necessity, mother of invention Other choices will emerge There will be confusion, yes.  There will be fallout.  But eventually (measured in today's sped-up time frame) viable alternatives will emerge & will be supported Wiki lists those parties, big in their day, which fell by the wayside Libs and Labor both are resolutely out of touch with the people Australia's changed.  It deserves politicians and parties which reflect the changes The people will determine the future of politics.  And the people are dismissive of the media's belief it has the power to 'form and shape' public opinion.  The media's as much on the nose as politics/politicians.  No surprise.  They're all from the same stable Abbott-Libs, Gillard-Labour both stink in the opinion of voters.  Both corrupt.  Both guilty of rank mismanagement.  Both infantile in behaviours and policies Sure, one of the supposed Big Two (but in actuality ONE) will get through the next election.  But today more than ever before, people do not elect a party to govern.  Instead, voters elect to rid themselves of the other.  And it's been that way for a long time Howard claimed (like so many after him) that voters had handed him a mandate to do this, do that.  No.  Weasel Howard got in because it was the only way to get rid of the previous slimeball.  Labor didn't 'win' over the Libs.  It was the only way to be rid of Howard.  On and on.  People are weary of what's on offer.  Weariness becomes outrage.  The world hasn't really seen an outraged Australia.  It's past time ... Hi mellie! ;)

Mellie deserves to speak, just as aussie does  ;)

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:34pm: What other choice then?  Citizen electoral council? Howard claimed (like so many after him) that voters had handed him a mandate to do this, do that.  No.  Weasel Howard got in because it was the only way to get rid of the previous slimeball.

Yeah, but then he got in again, ummmm and again after that.....

And if he had handed over to Costello the Libs may have got in again....

Soooooooo......oh never mind......

Aussie wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 4:25pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 4:04pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 3:34pm: What other choice then?  Citizen electoral council? Hi mellie! ;)

Oh FFS.....

I thought i was this dam Mellie....

::)

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:37pm:

That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has?

skippy skippy,  you have NOTHING to fear,  tony is a big spending, big government DLP type politician.  its small business that needs to worry about tony.  our problem is he's just a dumb populist.  he and gillard will go down as the worst and second worst pm's in australian history. i 4 years they'll be writing books debating who was worse.  the jury will be split ;) ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? skippy skippy,  you have NOTHING to fear,  tony is a big spending, big government DLP type politician.  its small business that needs to worry about tony.  our problem is he's just a dumb populist.  he and gillard will go down as the worst and second worst pm's in australian history. i 4 years they'll be writing books debating who was worse.  the jury will be split ;) ;) ;)

I actually agree. Abbott is a populist, where as I don't believe Gillard is. I don't think she is a great PM by any means. But her whole party need to take a good long look at itself. Any party that surrenders leadership of this country to Abbott  has major problems. He was never ever meant to be anything but a spoiler against Turnbull and Rudd, but Labor played him into the game. Look he's the luckiest smacking dimwit  since Billy McMahon to stumble upon the PMship by being in the right place at the right time.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? skippy skippy,  you have NOTHING to fear,  tony is a big spending, big government DLP type politician.  its small business that needs to worry about tony.  our problem is he's just a dumb populist.  he and gillard will go down as the worst and second worst pm's in australian history. i 4 years they'll be writing books debating who was worse.  the jury will be split ;) ;) ;)

I agree and no matter who gets in we will suffer the same fate as Europe and the America's. A recession bordering on depression.

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 1:37pm:

That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has?

what makes you think he hasnt changed? IN fact, recent interviews and his performance over the past few months have indicated exactly how far he HAS changed.

PZ547 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:31pm:

Chanting the mantra:  ' All you have are choices between Libs and Labor' Fortunately this forum is extremely under patronised No surprise The Paid-to-Post desperates seem to consider this home Australia moves straight past it Virtually nowhere in this forum -- be it this weekend or other -- is there any serious discussion of alternative parties The 'why' is obvious Blunt tools being paid paltry shekels to chant the mantra ' Your choices are Libs or Labor' Change is coming.  Has to come.  Even dumbclucks realise now that there is NO DIFFERENCE between the pretend two fake-parties Aussies are active now in massive international fora They see what the fake two party system did to the US and UK, etc. Aussies know who's behind it Aussies are waking up Which is why the panic to control thought and speech by Gillard on instruction from her owners You think it's done?  No, Abbott will continue the agenda if he lucks in.  Abbott is owned by the same scum who own Gillard We shouldn't be paying politicians because they're simply middle-men for the middle-men.  Australia is run and controlled from offshore Aussies know it and are telling their friends I will never vote for Abbott.  Abbott was the guy who organised the destruction of Pauline Hanson Pauline Hanson remains popular Other Pauline's are in the wings The worse the abuses by the fake two party system, the more the population will demand and create alternatives If Australia's defacto rulers attempt to suppress it, it will grow ever more rapidly Ironically, it's migrants who lead the charge against further migration.  The 'racist', 'racism' BS will be laughed into oblivion as Aussies and migrants join ranks against the true enemies of this land The most strident opposition to the current fake two party system comes from migrants It's gone as far as it can go.  No one wants Gillard or Abbott nor Libs nor Labor.  They're old sandshoes that people want to see tossed in the trash

up can hardly argue about alternative parties when the only alternate party that even reaches double digits is the greens.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:06pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? .

A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

Lobo wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Onya, Tones..... So? Aren't all the scare mongering and crystal ball predictions done to educate and change peoples way of thinking? Do you want stoic politicians that can't absorb information and change their thinking for the best? :-/

I could if I didn't believe that the change in their thinking was a load of BS.

;)

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled.

Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:04pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar

Posters, I give you exhibit A. ::)

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Posters, I give you exhibit A. ::)

I thought the new and new new and new new new fake glasses Juliar was exibit A. Polls tell us that too. Well done for coming around skip.

Just wondering how all the lefties like skip forgive juliar gillard, the socialist, the feminazi mothers are protitutes person at the time. The juliar that has changed from a left wing nutter to something, not sure what. No, thats fine.

But when it comes to abbott. No, he will never change. lol good on ya. Get over it, you blew it. The lot of ya. You are getting abbott and thanks to you, I can blame you.

Mummy give you a sip of her shandy again little boy?

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Mummy give you a sip of her shandy again little boy?

Oh skip. Did you get your poison chalice from labor again. Getting it daily has got to be a burden.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

Just wondering how all the lefties like skip forgive juliar gillard, the socialist, the feminazi mothers are protitutes person at the time. The juliar that has changed from a left wing nutter to something, not sure what. No, thats fine. But when it comes to abbott. No, he will never change. lol good on ya. Get over it, you blew it. The lot of ya. You are getting abbott and thanks to you, I can blame you.

What are you talking about.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 8:00pm: Just wondering how all the lefties like skip forgive juliar gillard, the socialist, the feminazi mothers are protitutes person at the time. The juliar that has changed from a left wing nutter to something, not sure what. No, thats fine. But when it comes to abbott. No, he will never change. lol good on ya. Get over it, you blew it. The lot of ya. You are getting abbott and thanks to you, I can blame you. What are you talking about.

This might help, but then again, I dont care

Skip dribbles

Quote:

That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has?

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 9:53pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 8:00pm: Just wondering how all the lefties like skip forgive juliar gillard, the socialist, the feminazi mothers are protitutes person at the time. The juliar that has changed from a left wing nutter to something, not sure what. No, thats fine. But when it comes to abbott. No, he will never change. lol good on ya. Get over it, you blew it. The lot of ya. You are getting abbott and thanks to you, I can blame you. What are you talking about. This might help, but then again, I dont care Skip dribbles Quote: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has?

I got what skip was saying, thanks.  If you're intent on making your opinion heard I'm all for it and will read intentively.  But at least aim to make it comprehensiable.  Now, would you care to try again?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 10:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 10:06pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 9:53pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 8:00pm: Just wondering how all the lefties like skip forgive juliar gillard, the socialist, the feminazi mothers are protitutes person at the time. The juliar that has changed from a left wing nutter to something, not sure what. No, thats fine. But when it comes to abbott. No, he will never change. lol good on ya. Get over it, you blew it. The lot of ya. You are getting abbott and thanks to you, I can blame you. What are you talking about. This might help, but then again, I dont care Skip dribbles Quote: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? I got what skip was saying, thanks.  If you're intent on making your opinion heard I'm all for it and will read intentively.  But at least aim to make it comprehensiable.  Now, would you care to try again?

Take my word for it, there is a method to the madness.  ;)

Abbott was on the Bolt show yesterday, he's pretty excruciating to watch, they really need to lock him in a cupboard till after the election.  ;D

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled.

Seriously - the kind of ppl that would believe him are the kind that liked the way it was before he supposedly changed anyway but for some reason they dont see that.

SOB

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 7:04pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar

Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 5:24am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB

For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either.

.

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled.

????

i know that the concept of change eludes some people but you believed in th 'real julia' but not the unheralded but very obvious new tony? people change. and it also often true that sometimes great opportunity makes great people.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:52am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. ???? i know that the concept of change eludes some people but you believed in th 'real julia' but not the unheralded but very obvious new tony? people change. and it also often true that sometimes great opportunity makes great people.

Post up my support for the new Julia, or shut  up you're dribbling again.
Now back on topic, retards, if phony is not phony why did he have to do media interviews telling everyone he changed?

skippy. wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:04am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 7:52am: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. ???? i know that the concept of change eludes some people but you believed in th 'real julia' but not the unheralded but very obvious new tony? people change. and it also often true that sometimes great opportunity makes great people. Post up my support for the new Julia, or shut  up you're dribbling again. Now back on topic, retards, if phony is not phony why did he have to do media interviews telling everyone he changed?

Doing just like the real julia. You cant tell anyone if there is no-one listening. Glad you watched.

Now if he didnt tell anyone, then it would take longer to even bother to notice.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:52am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. ???? i know that the concept of change eludes some people but you believed in th 'real julia' but not the unheralded but very obvious new tony? people change. and it also often true that sometimes great opportunity makes great people.

Ok.  So unless this is some sort of delusion perhaps you can explain how Tony has changed?

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 5:31am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:24am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either.

Show me your evidence that they are fake

Why the heck would she have fake glasses?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:31am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:24am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either. Show me your evidence that they are fake Why the heck would she have fake glasses? SOB

To make the new new new Jules of course.

The only evidence I have is visual and gillard/labors lameness. 8-)

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:33am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:32am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:31am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:24am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either. Show me your evidence that they are fake Why the heck would she have fake glasses? SOB To make the new new new Jules of course. The only evidence I have is visual.  8-)

Abbott has a new hair cut - does that suggest he is the new new Tony? This obsession with Gillard has got to stop. She wears glasses. Who cares.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:33am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:32am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:31am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:24am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either. Show me your evidence that they are fake Why the heck would she have fake glasses? SOB To make the new new new Jules of course. The only evidence I have is visual.  8-)

As typical of you, you have no evidence either way .. unless you have a copy of her latest eye tests you don't know sh it ... and for some reason you seem to like being in a perpetual state of oblivion

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:33am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:32am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:31am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:24am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either. Show me your evidence that they are fake Why the heck would she have fake glasses? SOB To make the new new new Jules of course. The only evidence I have is visual and gillard/labors lameness.  8-) Abbott has a new hair cut - does that suggest he is the new new Tony? This obsession with Gillard has got to stop. She wears glasses. Who cares.

Why does it have to stop?

Ill tell you what. When the obsession for Abbott stops, ill consider doing the same.

What do ya say. Yes.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:35am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:34am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:33am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:32am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:31am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 5:24am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 7:04pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. Like the new juliar, the new new juliar and the new new new fake glasses juliar Fake glasses? Seriously? Thats all you got? SOB For jules, thats all she gave for this new new new jules. I didnt like it either. Show me your evidence that they are fake Why the heck would she have fake glasses? SOB To make the new new new Jules of course. The only evidence I have is visual and gillard/labors lameness.  8-) Abbott has a new hair cut - does that suggest he is the new new Tony? This obsession with Gillard has got to stop. She wears glasses. Who cares. Why does it have to stop? Ill tell you what. When the obsession for Abbott stops, ill consider doing the same. What do ya say. Yes.

We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought.

[quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804
We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought.
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Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility.

Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:43am:

[quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804 We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought.

Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility.

Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist.[/quote]

Yep, I am elitist for asking you to concentrate the debate away from physical attire. ;D

skippy. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled.

If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us.

Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:43am: [quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804 We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought. Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility. Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist.

Yep, I am elitist for asking you to concentrate the debate away from physical attire. ;D[/quote]

Progs problem is that he hasn't got the IQ of a gnat. He, unlike others on here, he cannot talk about policy because he hasn't a dam clue and always ends up looking the fool. All he can do to get his 2 cents worth in is concentrate on 3 world slogans and stupid petty things like Easter rabbits and glasses.'

He kids himself into thinking no one will notice how brainless he is if he avoids getting into details ... what do you expect from someone who makes subway sandwiches for a living.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:24am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us. Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago?

no .....

John Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:57am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:43am: [quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804 We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought. Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility. Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist. Yep, I am elitist for asking you to concentrate the debate away from physical attire. ;D

Progs problem is that he hasn't got the IQ of a gnat. He, unlike others on here, he cannot talk about policy because he hasn't a dam clue and always ends up looking the fool. All he can do to get his 2 cents worth in is concentrate on 3 world slogans and stupid petty things like Easter rabbits and glasses.'

He kids himself into thinking no one will notice how brainless he is if he avoids getting into details ... what do you expect from someone who makes subway sandwiches for a living.[/quote]
Hey dont knock the subways sandwhich makers. That got you through school. Ingrate.

John Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:24am: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us. Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago? no .....

Na... lol of course not. Just Abbott. You people are pathetic.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:24am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us. Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago?

Worry all you like, but this thread is about the next PM   Now bugger off If you can't comment on the topic of phony tony haiving to call press conferences to say he has changed. Lol the extreme right don't like phony tony being under the spot light do they?

skippy. wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:24am: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us. Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago? Worry all you like, but this thread is about the next PM   Now bugger off If you can't comment on the topic of phony tony haiving to call press conferences to say he has changed. Lol the extreme right don't like phony tony being under the spot light do they?

Dont care since it is out and out hypocrisy from the left with an obvious extreme leftist as PM. Abbott gets so many free tickets thanks to the love of the leftists for gillard.

I just hope he doesnt use the free ticket of lying to us about a major policy area and then implement it when he is voted in.

Yeh im pretty certain Abbott has more class than that.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:53am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:45am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:24am: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us. Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago? Worry all you like, but this thread is about the next PM   Now bugger off If you can't comment on the topic of phony tony haiving to call press conferences to say he has changed. Lol the extreme right don't like phony tony being under the spot light do they? Dont care since it is out and out hypocrisy from the left with an obvious extreme leftist as PM. Abbott gets so many free tickets thanks to the love of the leftists for gillard. I just hope he doesnt use the free ticket of lying to us about a major policy area and then implement it when he is voted in. Yeh im pretty certain Abbott has more class than that.

An obvious extreme leftist with more free market ideals than Abbott.  Okay.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:27am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:57am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:43am: [quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804 We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought. Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility. Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist. Yep, I am elitist for asking you to concentrate the debate away from physical attire. ;D Progs problem is that he hasn't got the IQ of a gnat. He, unlike others on here, he cannot talk about policy because he hasn't a dam clue and always ends up looking the fool. All he can do to get his 2 cents worth in is concentrate on 3 world slogans and stupid petty things like Easter rabbits and glasses.' He kids himself into thinking no one will notice how brainless he is if he avoids getting into details ... what do you expect from someone who makes subway sandwiches for a living.

Hey dont knock the subways sandwhich makers. That got you through school. Ingrate.[/quote]

there was no subway when I was at school moron.

John Smith wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:39am: John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:27am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:57am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:43am: [quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804 We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought. Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility. Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist. Yep, I am elitist for asking you to concentrate the debate away from physical attire. ;D Progs problem is that he hasn't got the IQ of a gnat. He, unlike others on here, he cannot talk about policy because he hasn't a dam clue and always ends up looking the fool. All he can do to get his 2 cents worth in is concentrate on 3 world slogans and stupid petty things like Easter rabbits and glasses.' He kids himself into thinking no one will notice how brainless he is if he avoids getting into details ... what do you expect from someone who makes subway sandwiches for a living. Hey dont knock the subways sandwhich makers. That got you through school. Ingrate.

there was no subway when I was at school moron. [/quote]
hmmpft. You are fooling no-one..

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 1:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 1:41pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:39am: John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:27am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:57am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 8:43am: [quote author=alevine link=1364096229/71#71 date=1364164804 We've long moved on from the budgie smugglers and onto his character and policy agenda.  I know you love living in the past, but if you want any credibility you might want to spend less time concentrating on the appearahce of a person and more on something with a bit more substance. As per usual, we won't hold our breath, given your inability to put forward any intellectual thought. Yeh no, dont do that. I couldnt live with the resposibility. Just love how all concepts are on your terms. Although you are full of BS about moving on, it still makes for an elitist. Yep, I am elitist for asking you to concentrate the debate away from physical attire. ;D Progs problem is that he hasn't got the IQ of a gnat. He, unlike others on here, he cannot talk about policy because he hasn't a dam clue and always ends up looking the fool. All he can do to get his 2 cents worth in is concentrate on 3 world slogans and stupid petty things like Easter rabbits and glasses.' He kids himself into thinking no one will notice how brainless he is if he avoids getting into details ... what do you expect from someone who makes subway sandwiches for a living. Hey dont knock the subways sandwhich makers. That got you through school. Ingrate. there was no subway when I was at school moron.

hmmpft. You are fooling no-one..[/quote]

bzzzzzzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzzzzz

Subway have been in Australia since 1988.

If you had left school by then you are an old fker.

That's 25 fking years ago!!!!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:

Subway have been in Australia since 1988. If you had left school by then you are an old fker. That's 25 fking years ago!!!!

goose.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:

Subway have been in Australia since 1988. If you had left school by then you are an old fker. That's 25 fking years ago!!!!

OLD FVCKER??????????????????

LISTEN YOU SELF ABSORBED WANKER

42 IS NOT OLD.

In fact seeing the wife & I did the smart thing & had children when her body was at its peak child bearing age, not only haven't we had to fork out & endure IVF crap we are now the proud parents of an independent 17 year old with her own car,job & money.

In fact at 42 we are now partying harder than we did at 18 because we have more disposable income.

left school in 1988 = OLD FVCKER

YEAH RIGHT ANDREI 8-)

I could not have done 90-99% of the things I did in my 20s with children.

Having kids in your 20s is fking crazy in my book.

At 23, I was getting hammered with 5 mates in Faliraki following leaving university.

Kids? Having a laugh guv'nor!

And 42 is old.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

I could not have done 90-99% of the things I did in my 20s with children. Having kids in your 20s is fking crazy in my book. At 23, I was getting hammered with 5 mates in Faliraki following leaving university. Kids? Having a laugh guv'nor! And 42 is old.

goose.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

I could not have done 90-99% of the things I did in my 20s with children. Having kids in your 20s is fking crazy in my book. At 23, I was getting hammered with 5 mates in Faliraki following leaving university. Kids? Having a laugh guv'nor! And 42 is old.

At 23 I was a fully qualified chef doing the island thing in QLD, hammered every night, rooting everything that moved & if it didn't I pushed it & smoking way too much weed.

Having Kids in your 30's to 40's is stupid.
1) big chance it won't be natural & cost bucket loads
2) who wants to deal with moody teenagers in their 50's & 60's

And 42 is the new 21

So suck it up whippersnapper ;D

skippy. wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 9:24am: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:13pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 5:06pm: skippy. wrote on Mar 24th, 2013 at 1:37pm: That the man the Howard government hid from the media and public two elections ago because he was such an extreme right wing nutter is on the cusp of leading the coalition to victory. He hasn't changed, so what has? what makes you think he hasnt changed? . A politician that does media interviews to tell the country he has changed is a fraud. Only the fools are fooled. If politicians don't change and they are just fooling us. Should we not be desperately worried that the Prime Minister was a member of an Extreme Left wing organisation some years ago? Worry all you like, but this thread is about the next PM   Now bugger off If you can't comment on the topic of phony tony haiving to call press conferences to say he has changed. Lol the extreme right don't like phony tony being under the spot light do they?

astonishing... Juliar had her own press conferences announcing 'the real julia' and yet when abbot does the same you go off the deep end.

it makes you look sillier than usual.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 2:16pm: Subway have been in Australia since 1988. If you had left school by then you are an old fker. That's 25 fking years ago!!!! OLD FVCKER?????????????????? LISTEN YOU SELF ABSORBED WANKER 42 IS NOT OLD. In fact seeing the wife & I did the smart thing & had children when her body was at its peak child bearing age, not only haven't we had to fork out & endure IVF crap we are now the proud parents of an independent 17 year old with her own car,job & money. In fact at 42 we are now partying harder than we did at 18 because we have more disposable income. left school in 1988 = OLD FVCKER YEAH RIGHT ANDREI 8-)

ditto in every way except i have 4 kids and am a bit older.

do i get sick of people who think 50 is old!!  now 40 is old???

andrei, you have SO MUCH PAIN headed your way as your self obsessive delusions come back to bite you. 

yikes...

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25th, 2013 at 3:14pm: I could not have done 90-99% of the things I did in my 20s with children. Having kids in your 20s is fking crazy in my book. At 23, I was getting hammered with 5 mates in Faliraki following leaving university. Kids? Having a laugh guv'nor! And 42 is old. At 23 I was a fully qualified chef doing the island thing in QLD, hammered every night, rooting everything that moved & if it didn't I pushed it & smoking way too much weed. Having Kids in your 30's to 40's is stupid. 1) big chance it won't be natural & cost bucket loads 2) who wants to deal with moody teenagers in their 50's & 60's And 42 is the new 21 So suck it up whippersnapper ;D

i had my first at 21 and last at 30. and you are right. who wants kids at 50 and 60? i am in my 50s and the grandkids are great but after having them for just two overnights you realise just why you had yours YOUNG.