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Message started by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:55am

Title: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:55am
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/16451689/katter-wants-tax-breaks-for-footy-stars/


Quote:
Maverick politician Bob Katter and his Australia Party are campaigning for a Senate seat promising to give tax breaks to highly-paid footballers because of the enjoyment they bring their fans.

The Herald Sun says AFL and NRL stars would be given tax breaks worth thousands of dollars on their rich salaries.

Mr Katter, whose party is tipped to win a Victorian Senate seat, says AFL and NRL players deserve special tax deals to compensate them because their earnings plunge when they retire, often when they are still in their 20s.

"These blokes get paid huge money but their life at the top is very short indeed," he told the Herald Sun.

In the AFL he supports Melbourne because his son-in-law is a one-eyed Demons fan, while in the NRL he backs, not surprisingly, the North Queensland Cowboys.

"There are very few people in Australia who give more joy than our AFL and NRL heroes but they can get injuries in a hurry and their life in the sport comes to an end," he said.

"Most don't have huge opportunities to pursue further work."





Someone explain to me how Katter is expected to win a senate seat if this is the standard of his policies?

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by red baron on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:01am
I watched a clip on 60 minutes last sunday night - verdict, 'he's as silly as a duck' but the average person likes him because he listens to them. Juliar could take a few lessons from the wily Bob Katter.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:06am

red baron wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:01am:
I watched a clip on 60 minutes last sunday night - verdict, 'he's as silly as a duck' but the average person likes him because he listens to them. Juliar could take a few lessons from the wily Bob Katter.


'listens to them' is a skill perhaps, but understanding them or having the slightest clue what to do with their problems is another.

he is a drongo.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Robert Paulson on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:21am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:55am:
Mr Katter, whose party is tipped to win a Victorian Senate seat, says AFL and NRL players deserve special tax deals to compensate them because their earnings plunge when they retire, often when they are still in their 20s.


They gave their youth for footy and then they're out on their arse at 30 - if they're lucky.  But forget all the hard work that goes into it - let's judge every player on what a handful of superstars make.  Rookie listed players get about $30,000 a year - massive salaries indeed.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by FRED. on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:41am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am:
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?


They can always get a job when the footy career over .OR ARE they TO DUMD    ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:44am

FRED. wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:41am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am:
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?


They can always get a job when the footy career over .OR ARE they TO DUMD    ;D ;D ;D ;D


thats a bit if a cliche. one of Adelaide's orthopaeidic surgeons was and ex Crows player.

and what about people in highly physical activities so that they cannot do it past 40 say. should they also receive tax breaks?

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by FRED. on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:47am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:44am:

FRED. wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:41am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am:
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?


They can always get a job when the footy career over .OR ARE they TO DUMD    ;D ;D ;D ;D


thats a bit if a cliche. one of Adelaide's orthopaeidic surgeons was and ex Crows player.

and what about people in highly physical activities so that they cannot do it past 40 say. should they also receive tax breaks?


Like our current PM   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 27th, 2013 at 9:00am
Bob's way off the garden path on this issue I think.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by The Heartless Felon on Mar 27th, 2013 at 9:03am

Enjoyment they bring to their fans? Let's tax the Aussie cricket team into oblivion...

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:17am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am:
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?



Because it is unique.
Most careers span up to the age of 60/65 - not 30.

I would have thought that was obvious.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:18am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 9:03am:
Enjoyment they bring to their fans? Let's tax the Aussie cricket team into oblivion...



I don't think those particular individuals are being any enjoyment to fans though.

If they get away with anything less than 0-10 against us in the upcoming 2 Ashes tests series they will have done well.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:21am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


You are an economic pygmy.  Seriously.

What is stopping a footballer from earning money after they play ?

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:24am
You see...this is what happens when you give glory and worship to man and not God.  This is right wing Government Atheist personality and celebrity cultism at its worst...

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:20am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.





... not forgetting our

"Britain's Got Talent" stars ...



our "escorts"



- and magician's assistants ...









Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:30am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am:
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?



Because it is unique.
Most careers span up to the age of 60/65 - not 30.

I would have thought that was obvious.


its not even remotely unique. they are JUST footballers. what about other sporting bodies or do we only support the ones that are popular? what about boxing? motor sport? what about swimmers? they are too old by 27!

to be a consistent policy it would have to be for ALL careers that have early ends. so you can see it now... kids leaving school choosing careers based on how quick they are over.

you would have to be the last person imaginable who would support this nonsense.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:31am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


You are an economic pygmy.  Seriously.

What is stopping a footballer from earning money after they play ?


lack of education, planning, brains or drive. None of whic is my problem or any different to anyone else. A surgeon can have a minor hand or eye injury and his career is over. do we have to include them in the list?

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:33am

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:20am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.





... not forgetting our

"Britain's Got Talent" stars ...



our "escorts"



- and magician's assistants ...



i liked the dog show... but did you hear the voice on the guy that came SECOND???? his last note was better than anyone i have ever heard and he is just 17. but the time he is 30 I will be paying $300 to go hear him sing. but i wont be watching the dog show.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:49am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:55am:
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/16451689/katter-wants-tax-breaks-for-footy-stars/


Quote:
Maverick politician Bob Katter and his Australia Party are campaigning for a Senate seat promising to give tax breaks to highly-paid footballers because of the enjoyment they bring their fans.

The Herald Sun says AFL and NRL stars would be given tax breaks worth thousands of dollars on their rich salaries.

Mr Katter, whose party is tipped to win a Victorian Senate seat, says AFL and NRL players deserve special tax deals to compensate them because their earnings plunge when they retire, often when they are still in their 20s.

"These blokes get paid huge money but their life at the top is very short indeed," he told the Herald Sun.

In the AFL he supports Melbourne because his son-in-law is a one-eyed Demons fan, while in the NRL he backs, not surprisingly, the North Queensland Cowboys.

"There are very few people in Australia who give more joy than our AFL and NRL heroes but they can get injuries in a hurry and their life in the sport comes to an end," he said.

"Most don't have huge opportunities to pursue further work."





Someone explain to me how Katter is expected to win a senate seat if this is the standard of his policies?


Are you sure his name is Katter?

It may very well be Skatter, as in brain, as in Skatterbrain?

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Rider on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:49am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:32am:
nobody is forcing them into footy. after all,m they do it for the love of the game and for a handful it turns out to be profitable for them and for most VERY profitable. and nowadays most have a career to go to after. why should their career choice entitle them to different tax breaks?



Because it is unique.
Most careers span up to the age of 60/65 - not 30.

I would have thought that was obvious.


Sorry, cannot agree, I'm sure they know this when they start their careers.  Lots of efforts in clubs to facilitate trades and (post sport) career development - these guys want for nothing (except intelligence and humility it could be argued) so IMO this topic is a total wankfest.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Alinta on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:57am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:21am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


You are an economic pygmy.  Seriously.

What is stopping a footballer from earning money after they play ?


Exactly..........in football, where large salaries are received by young persons, enables them to set themselves up for the time they will no longer draw the same level of income.

Very few people, I expect, maintain the same level of income throughout their working lives.........some earn the big bikkies while youth is on their side.......others do not maximise their earning potential until middle age. 

Nope......disagree with the tax breaks suggested by Katter....pay tax on what you are earning at the time whether it's at 20 or 50.....





Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 4:01pm
How many people have to reinvent themselves in new careers half way thru their working lives?  A LOT.
footballers are no different and arguably LESS entitled to special treatment given the excessive salraies they earn.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by corporate_whitey on Mar 27th, 2013 at 4:07pm
Productivity offsets?  What about football clubs giving up their revenue raising through pokies...

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by John Smith on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:58pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


worklife 20 -32 at best?? What a load of bull sh1t  ..... why? if he wants to retire at 32 thats his problem and not anyone else's ... nothing stopping him getting a real job after 32 ... his fame already means he will probably get an advantage and better prospects than others his age and with his lack of experience.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by Robert Paulson on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:03pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


worklife 20 -32 at best?? What a load of bull sh1t  ..... why? if he wants to retire at 32 thats his problem and not anyone else's ... nothing stopping him getting a real job after 32 ... his fame already means he will probably get an advantage and better prospects than others his age and with his lack of experience.


While most people are getting qualifications and experience, these guys are giving their life to sport.  Most don't even make the grade, let alone become superstars who can set themselves up for life on a few years pay.  I'd have to see the detail, but I don't disagree in theory.  But it doesn't matter, it's an idea bound to fail - australians love to hate anyone in the public eye, especially footballers. 

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by John Smith on Mar 27th, 2013 at 9:03pm

... wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


worklife 20 -32 at best?? What a load of bull sh1t  ..... why? if he wants to retire at 32 thats his problem and not anyone else's ... nothing stopping him getting a real job after 32 ... his fame already means he will probably get an advantage and better prospects than others his age and with his lack of experience.


While most people are getting qualifications and experience, these guys are giving their life to sport.  Most don't even make the grade, let alone become superstars who can set themselves up for life on a few years pay.  I'd have to see the detail, but I don't disagree in theory.  But it doesn't matter, it's an idea bound to fail - australians love to hate anyone in the public eye, especially footballers. 


not everyone that doesn't dedicate their life to sport dedicates it to their qualifications ... lets face it, most footballers don't have the brains to do anything else worthwhile. They  have a choice in life as does everyone else .. they go into sport knowing full well it is a short career however they do so knowing that if successful the benefits far outweigh the negatives ... lets face it, most of these guys earn at least 3 or 4 times what they would  otherwise earn and in the case of soccer players they can earn 30 to 40 times what they could otherwise expect ... why don't we make the same argument for actors? many spend years waiting tables etc waiting for that big break, and when they get it their careers are often short lived. ...

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2013 at 10:02pm

... wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 8:30am:
I don't disagree with this policy actually.

In England people go nuts that Wayne Rooney earns $200,000 per week but they also forget that his worklife is 20-32 at best.

It's quite different from a high earner who then has 30 more years of it.

I think there should be allowances made that they retire 30 years before everyone else.


worklife 20 -32 at best?? What a load of bull sh1t  ..... why? if he wants to retire at 32 thats his problem and not anyone else's ... nothing stopping him getting a real job after 32 ... his fame already means he will probably get an advantage and better prospects than others his age and with his lack of experience.


While most people are getting qualifications and experience, these guys are giving their life to sport.  Most don't even make the grade, let alone become superstars who can set themselves up for life on a few years pay.  I'd have to see the detail, but I don't disagree in theory.  But it doesn't matter, it's an idea bound to fail - australians love to hate anyone in the public eye, especially footballers. 


A crows footballer studied and became a surgeon. that has to be about as difficult as it gets but he did it.

do u really think a footballer is the only one that has to work and study at the same time????

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by thelastnail on Mar 28th, 2013 at 12:02am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:55am:
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/16451689/katter-wants-tax-breaks-for-footy-stars/


Quote:
Maverick politician Bob Katter and his Australia Party are campaigning for a Senate seat promising to give tax breaks to highly-paid footballers because of the enjoyment they bring their fans.

The Herald Sun says AFL and NRL stars would be given tax breaks worth thousands of dollars on their rich salaries.

Mr Katter, whose party is tipped to win a Victorian Senate seat, says AFL and NRL players deserve special tax deals to compensate them because their earnings plunge when they retire, often when they are still in their 20s.

"These blokes get paid huge money but their life at the top is very short indeed," he told the Herald Sun.

In the AFL he supports Melbourne because his son-in-law is a one-eyed Demons fan, while in the NRL he backs, not surprisingly, the North Queensland Cowboys.

"There are very few people in Australia who give more joy than our AFL and NRL heroes but they can get injuries in a hurry and their life in the sport comes to an end," he said.

"Most don't have huge opportunities to pursue further work."





Someone explain to me how Katter is expected to win a senate seat if this is the standard of his policies?


we give tax breaks to people who hoard property so we may as well give it to other useless people who kick a piece of leather around a paddock.

That's how it is in this country full of f.ckwits.

Title: Re: Katter: tax breaks for footballers!
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 28th, 2013 at 12:13am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 28th, 2013 at 12:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:55am:
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/16451689/katter-wants-tax-breaks-for-footy-stars/


Quote:
Maverick politician Bob Katter and his Australia Party are campaigning for a Senate seat promising to give tax breaks to highly-paid footballers because of the enjoyment they bring their fans.

The Herald Sun says AFL and NRL stars would be given tax breaks worth thousands of dollars on their rich salaries.

Mr Katter, whose party is tipped to win a Victorian Senate seat, says AFL and NRL players deserve special tax deals to compensate them because their earnings plunge when they retire, often when they are still in their 20s.

"These blokes get paid huge money but their life at the top is very short indeed," he told the Herald Sun.

In the AFL he supports Melbourne because his son-in-law is a one-eyed Demons fan, while in the NRL he backs, not surprisingly, the North Queensland Cowboys.

"There are very few people in Australia who give more joy than our AFL and NRL heroes but they can get injuries in a hurry and their life in the sport comes to an end," he said.

"Most don't have huge opportunities to pursue further work."





Someone explain to me how Katter is expected to win a senate seat if this is the standard of his policies?


we give tax breaks to people who hoard property so we may as well give it to other useless people who kick a piece of leather around a paddock.

That's how it is in this country full of f.ckwits.

There are alot of people and a hell of alot more reasons to not want to worry about politics, all the way down to how money is spent.

We are the sad FcKs who come here and speak, think, live with politics on our minds. We are the people who need to wake these people up from time to time.

There has been atleast 2 times in my adult life, that I felt like having the easy life. NO STRESS. No dam politics. Just me, me and my wife and peace. Dam, make that a 3rd time.

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