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The Hon Peter Garrett MP Minister for School Education Minister for Early Childhood and Youth Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out. His latest claims show a complete lack of understanding about the National Plan for School improvement and follow a succession of ridiculous positions on the important issue of school funding: He dismissed the Gonski Report within 20 minutes of it being released. He said he would repeal any legislation we introduced before he had even seen it. He has consistently said he will keep a broken funding model that will see schools across Australia lose up to $5.4 billion in coming years. He continues to pretend the Opposition would index schools at 6 per cent when he knows the current indexation rate is 3.9 per cent and is estimated to fall to 3 per cent from 2014. He claims the Coalition cares about teacher quality when his real plans are to slash $425 million from our Teacher Quality National Partnership. He has also confirmed he doesn’t even think it is his job to come up with a better way to fund schools, even though the most comprehensive independent review in 40 years found conclusively a new model is needed. How does he expect anyone to take him seriously on education when he doesn’t even think it’s his job to come up with a plan to fix a broken school funding system? The National Plan for School Improvement includes a new fairer school funding model. We want every child’s education to be supported by a new nationally consistent Schooling Resource Standard. This would include a base amount per student and additional ‘loadings’ to address school and student disadvantage. These loadings would support Indigenous students, students with a disability, students with limited English language skills and schools in regional and remote areas – exactly what was recommended in the Gonski Review. We have always recognised the important role of education authorities, including government, Catholic and independent schools, and the need for them to retain some flexibility to address local need. The Gonski Review also supported the role of system redistribution noting that it would need to be more publicly transparent. This approach is exactly what we are negotiating with the states, territories and non-government education authorities. It represents the biggest change to school funding in 40 years. Mr Pyne clearly opposes both transparency and needs-based funding and has said that he will not sign up to the idea of Australian schools being amongst the best in the world. We are prepared to make significant additional investment but we also expect the states to pay their fair share. We can’t do this if some states continue to cut funding to their own education budgets. That’s why we’ve asked states to commit to at least 3 per cent indexation and not cut further funding. If Mr Pyne had spent more time reading the Gonski Review and less time dismissing it, he would know what we are proposing is consistent with the core recommendations of the review. Mr Pyne’s latest claims do nothing but confirm that the Opposition simply don’t have a plan for the future of our schools – and are clearly not bothering to develop one. The Coalition’s only plan for schools it to slash funding, sack one in seven teachers and squeeze more kids into every classroom. Cutting funding from education is what Liberals do. Only Labor can be trusted to deliver the best results for schools across Australia.

http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/pyne-gets-it-wrong-again

I have to learn not to take these thread subject seriously. Pyne smacked around. In whos dream. Yours or boldies.

Chrissy does enjoy a good smacking

He is a useless loudmouth.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:40am:

He is a useless loudmouth. SOB

Pyne, after liberals win the next election, is going to sh.. all over Albanesee as the PM's gatekeeper. Pyne will do it with style and intelligence and grace. It will be nothing close to the current snide pathetic gatekeeping we have now.

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:38am:

Chrissy does enjoy a good smacking

Politics is a game for him.

You've got to admit, progs, that any politicians that dismisses such a comprehensive and critical review just 20 minutes after it's been released, has irreparably undermined their own credibility.

As a parent, what faith can you have in this man to do what is best for your child when he sees them primarily as a political football.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:44am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:40am: He is a useless loudmouth. SOB Pyne, after liberals win the next election, is going to sh.. all over Albanesee as the PM's gatekeeper. Pyne will do it with style and intelligence and grace. It will be nothing close to the current snide pathetic gatekeeping we have now.

He is obsessed with the politics. How is waiting 20 minutes to respond to such a vital report got anything to do with intelligence, style or grace.

Does he think he's still in the school debating team. It seems he is more interesting in appearing smart than actually being smart. All fluff and no substance.

The man could have at least waited to give the impression of due consideration. The man didn't even have the discipline to disguise he's unseemly haste to turn our kids into a political football.

Style and grace, really, progs.

"I love the smell of napalm desperation in the morning."

Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion.
Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne.

The Heartless Felon wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:24am:

"I love the smell of napalm desperation in the morning."

So I take it, you, like Pyne, don't accept Gonski's findings.

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:30am:

Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion. Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne.

On this issue he doesn't sound at all moderate. Indeed, the more power he accumulates the more Minchin like he appears. Personally, I reckon they're both "fruit loops."

MOTR wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:37am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:30am: Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion. Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne. On this issue he doesn't sound at all moderate. Indeed, the more power he accumulates the more Minchin like he appears. Personally, I reckon they're both "fruit loops."

Pyne has always supported the federal leader without question..My personal experience of Pyne has more to do with the SA Liberal party and the moderate faction of which he is the leader especially now Vanstone and Downer have left politics.
As for Minchin and Bernardi I wouldnt p!ss on either of them if they were on fire.

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Why Christopher Pyne should go back to school BERNARD KEANE | FEB 27, 2013 11:37AM Australia’s secondary educational funding model is broken. To claim otherwise, as Christopher Pyne did today, will perpetuate both inequality and poor educational outcomes. “The current funding model does work, it’s not a broken model.” So all is well in Australian secondary education funding, then: this morning, the Coalition’s shadow education minister Christopher Pyne — making a rare foray into his own portfolio — declared there was no problem with the way we currently fund secondary education. When asked by his interviewer whether he was aware of recent evidence of declines in Australian education outcomes, Pyne spluttered with annoyance — he’d been in his portfolio for four years, he said — and argued they wouldn’t be fixed via the Gonski proposal. Despite what the media and various stakeholders have suggested, Australia for a long time has had a reasonably efficient secondary education system: we spend less than the OECD average on education, but still managed to score in the top 10 in the OECD’s Program for International Student Assessment international rankings — we might not have been world’s best, but we got plenty of bang for our buck. However, recent evidence is that we’re slipping in literacy, particularly in comparison with rapidly improving Asian educational systems, and lagging badly in maths and science. The principal reason for the growing gap in international comparisons is the performance of our disadvantaged students, generating what one education academic called a “substantial tail of underperformance”. “Students attending schools in which principals reported no resource shortages scored significantly higher in reading and mathematics (but not in science) than students attending schools in which principals reported being affected by resource shortages,” the Australian Council for Educational Research said in releasing a report late last year. Improving our educational performance thus requires improvements in equity. The funding model proposed in the Gonski report specifically addresses this issue. The report concluded that there was no consistent approach to effectively using outcomes data to target educational disadvantage, or even to identifying whether resources were reaching the disadvantaged schools they were targeted at — that is, some states didn’t even know if the money they were spending to address disadvantage was working: “Existing arrangements are complex, and do not accurately capture student need within student groups. They also fail to take account of the significant impact of concentration of disadvantage at the school level.” It went on: “If Australia is to make improvements to the overall performance and equity of the schooling system, it is important that funding arrangements for disadvantaged students are clear, predictable and transparent, and that the additional funding that has been identified to support disadvantaged students is directed to those who need it most. A simple approach to the allocation of funding for disadvantaged students and schools will help facilitate the collection of data on the impact the additional funding is having on improving educational outcomes.” That is, there is a direct link between the significant flaws in the current funding model and the growing disparity between Australia’s educational outcomes and those of other economies — and also, incidentally, that there’s a direct link between educational equity and national education outcomes. Even The Australian was forced to admit that the Gonski approach to funding “had merit”. However, if you believe the goal of current funding arrangements should be to perpetuate disadvantage and entrench advantage, that equity should not be a goal of educational funding or that it is not connected to educational outcomes, you might think the current model works perfectly satisfactorily, that it’s “not broken”. Or you might simply be adopting a contrarian position for the sake of political expediency. But as of now, the Coalition appears committed to defending a funding model that is directly responsible for our declining educational performance.

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 7:49am:

MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:37am: adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:30am: Actually as Ive said many times before ..That even though he can be an annoying little sh!t I quite like Chris Pyne. He's the leader of the SA moderates and hates Nick Minchin and Cory Bernardi with a passion. Given a choice between voting for Garrett or Pyne my vote would always go to Pyne. On this issue he doesn't sound at all moderate. Indeed, the more power he accumulates the more Minchin like he appears. Personally, I reckon they're both "fruit loops." Pyne has always supported the federal leader without question..My personal experience of Pyne has more to do with the SA Liberal party and the moderate faction of which he is the leader especially now Vanstone and Downer have left politics. As for Minchin and Bernardi I wouldnt p!ss on either of them if they were on fire.

That's` a good thing,cant imagine what diseases are in your body fluids   ;) ;) ;) ;)

MOTR wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:17am:

Quote: The Hon Peter Garrett MP Minister for School Education Minister for Early Childhood and Youth Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out. [...] http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/pyne-gets-it-wrong-again

C'mon MOTR, you can do better. The Honourable Peter Garrett MP is the very same boofhead who couldn't figure out how to vote so he never voted for...what was it?...9 or 10 years. He couldn't even figure out the donkey vote system. He now has the hide to question someone's understanding of the education system. Pure folderol. It's like Big Kev (254kg) from the Biggest Loser giving dieting advice. Pure folderol.

salad in wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 9:12am:

MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:17am: Quote: The Hon Peter Garrett MP Minister for School Education Minister for Early Childhood and Youth Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out. [...] http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/pyne-gets-it-wrong-again C'mon MOTR, you can do better. The Honourable Peter Garrett MP is the very same boofhead who couldn't figure out how to vote so he never voted for...what was it?...9 or 10 years. He couldn't even figure out the donkey vote system. He now has the hide to question someone's understanding of the education system. Pure folderol. It's like Big Kev (254kg) from the Biggest Loser giving dieting advice. Pure folderol.

So you don't accept the findings of the Gonski Review, either.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:32am:

I have to learn not to take these thread subject seriously. Pyne smacked around. In whos dream. Yours or boldies.

If you read the article you will clearly see that he has had his gonads handed to him.

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 3:58pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:32am: I have to learn not to take these thread subject seriously. Pyne smacked around. In whos dream. Yours or boldies. If you read the article you will clearly see that he has had his gonads handed to him.

Yeh clearly not.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:00pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:58pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:32am: I have to learn not to take these thread subject seriously. Pyne smacked around. In whos dream. Yours or boldies. If you read the article you will clearly see that he has had his gonads handed to him. Yeh clearly not.

Yeah you are right - I also doubt that he has any.

Here is Pyne 'doing it in style,' so much so that he was booted out of the House:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwrs312AM2Y

No need to thank me.

;)

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:22pm:

Here is Pyne 'doing it in style,' so much so that he was booted out of the House: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwrs312AM2Y No need to thank me. ;)

Isnt it funny how others see things differently (remember that. It is the most important thing in political life). Care to guess who those others may be who see it differently. 60% at the moment I think.

Would you care to know how the others (60%) might see it.

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60% at the moment I think.

I doubt that even 10% even saw it.

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:32pm:

Quote: 60% at the moment I think. I doubt that even 10% even saw it.

It was in the media. You would think atleast 70% of the voting population had a chance to see it or read it or hear it from others. The misandrist PM and her BS misogynist desperation.

It was part of Question Time.  How many voters watch that?  I dunno...but the ABC would love to think that 60% of the voting population watch their coverage of Question Time, I doubt it. 

I never saw it covered on any other TV Channel.  Did you?

;)

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:39pm:

It was part of Question Time.  How many voters watch that?  I dunno...but the ABC would love to think that 60% of the voting population watch their coverage of Question Time, I doubt it.  I never saw it covered on any other TV Channel.  Did you? ;)

It is on sky. Get cut in pieces for news media. Gets put in news papers for discussion. All over the internet. Yeh, how many do you think. Im guessing 70% like I said.

Even if wrong, to which I expect, it is way more than 10%.

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:22pm:

Here is Pyne 'doing it in style,' so much so that he was booted out of the House: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwrs312AM2Y No need to thank me. ;)

I wonder what made Chris lose it. He looked possessed at one point.

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It is on sky. Get cut in pieces for news media. Gets put in news papers for discussion. All over the internet.

Links....'or it did not happen.'

;)

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:43pm:

Quote: It is on sky. Get cut in pieces for news media. Gets put in news papers for discussion. All over the internet. Links....'or it did not happen.' ;)

I dont care if you think it didnt happen. After all, you think only 10% of people saw it. lol.

Porkie.....you said:


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It is on sky. Get cut in pieces for news media. Gets put in news papers for discussion. All over the internet.

I asked you for links....and all you have is:


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I dont care if you think it didnt happen.

Sooo.....I conclude that you and melielongtime are out of the same mould.  All good.

;)

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Porkie.....you said: Quote: It is on sky. Get cut in pieces for news media. Gets put in news papers for discussion. All over the internet. I asked you for links....and all you have is: [quote]I dont care if you think it didnt happen.

Sooo.....I conclude that you and melielongtime are out of the same mould.  All good.

;)[/quote]
Like I said, I dont care. Give me proof it was 10%. Pretty sure you want and I dont even care if you dont.

You are in your own mould of your own importance.

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Like I said, I dont care. Give me proof it was 10%. Pretty sure you want and I dont even care if you dont.

Give me proof I said it was 10%, as opposed to a mere conjectural comment.  All I am saying is that of the 60% you refer to, my guess was that less than 10% of the voting population actually saw Pyne 'doing it in style.'

Now, if you can't get yourself 'beyond' that......'I don't care.'  I'll just put you in the same pigeon hole as is occupied by melielongtime.  All good.

;)

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:08pm:

Quote: Like I said, I dont care. Give me proof it was 10%. Pretty sure you want and I dont even care if you dont. Give me proof I said it was 10%, as opposed to a mere conjectural comment.  All I am saying is that of the 60% you refer to, my guess was that less than 10% of the voting population actually saw Pyne 'doing it in style.' Now, if you can't get yourself 'beyond' that......'I don't care.'  I'll just put you in the same pigeon hole as is occupied by melielongtime.  All good. ;)

Ill be the bigger one then. You say 10%, I say 70%. Neither are going to give proof, so we can agree to disagree.

Unless of course you think your opinion is better than everyone elses and no evidence required.

This was your assertion..........not opinion:


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60% at the moment I think. Would you care to know how the others (60%) might see it.

Am I right so far?

;)

salad in wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 9:12am:

MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:17am: Quote: The Hon Peter Garrett MP Minister for School Education Minister for Early Childhood and Youth Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out. [...] http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/pyne-gets-it-wrong-again C'mon MOTR, you can do better. The Honourable Peter Garrett MP is the very same boofhead who couldn't figure out how to vote so he never voted for...what was it?...9 or 10 years. He couldn't even figure out the donkey vote system. He now has the hide to question someone's understanding of the education system. Pure folderol. It's like Big Kev (254kg) from the Biggest Loser giving dieting advice. Pure folderol.

hilarious....wasnt Peter in charge of caterpillars or was it lizards at one stage of his illustrious career..I seem to remember him taking a mighty fall after the pinkbatts shambles..

can anyone tell me what BER did for education???????????????? I know it cost more than $16bn...

but what exactly did it do to improve my grandchildrens education??????????

maybe taught them how not to implement a $16bn policy and get bugger all value from it..

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:08pm: Quote: Like I said, I dont care. Give me proof it was 10%. Pretty sure you want and I dont even care if you dont. Give me proof I said it was 10%, as opposed to a mere conjectural comment.  All I am saying is that of the 60% you refer to, my guess was that less than 10% of the voting population actually saw Pyne 'doing it in style.' Now, if you can't get yourself 'beyond' that......'I don't care.'  I'll just put you in the same pigeon hole as is occupied by melielongtime.  All good. ;) Ill be the bigger one then. You say 10%, I say 70%. Neither are going to give proof, so we can agree to disagree. Unless of course you think your opinion is better than everyone elses and no evidence required.

isnt that the case with most lefties??? ;)

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can anyone tell me what BER did for education???????????????? I know it cost more than $16bn... but what exactly did it do to improve my grandchildrens education??????????

Have you seen their School recently?

cods wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:25pm:

salad in wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:12am: MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:17am: Quote: The Hon Peter Garrett MP Minister for School Education Minister for Early Childhood and Youth Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out. [...] http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/pyne-gets-it-wrong-again C'mon MOTR, you can do better. The Honourable Peter Garrett MP is the very same boofhead who couldn't figure out how to vote so he never voted for...what was it?...9 or 10 years. He couldn't even figure out the donkey vote system. He now has the hide to question someone's understanding of the education system. Pure folderol. It's like Big Kev (254kg) from the Biggest Loser giving dieting advice. Pure folderol. hilarious....wasnt Peter in charge of caterpillars or was it lizards at one stage of his illustrious career..I seem to remember him taking a mighty fall after the pinkbatts shambles.. can anyone tell me what BER did for education???????????????? I know it cost more than $16bn... but what exactly did it do to improve my grandchildrens education?????????? maybe taught them how not to implement a $16bn policy and get bugger all value from it..

It was found that in about 98% of cases the BER got value for money but don't be too concerned about the facts. That is just a normal conservative trait.

MOTR wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:46am:

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:38am: Chrissy does enjoy a good smacking Politics is a game for him. You've got to admit, progs, that any politicians that dismisses such a comprehensive and critical review just 20 minutes after it's been released, has irreparably undermined their own credibility. As a parent, what faith can you have in this man to do what is best for your child when he sees them primarily as a political football.

Taking over the teachers union is he?

cods wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:27pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:21pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:08pm: Quote: Like I said, I dont care. Give me proof it was 10%. Pretty sure you want and I dont even care if you dont. Give me proof I said it was 10%, as opposed to a mere conjectural comment.  All I am saying is that of the 60% you refer to, my guess was that less than 10% of the voting population actually saw Pyne 'doing it in style.' Now, if you can't get yourself 'beyond' that......'I don't care.'  I'll just put you in the same pigeon hole as is occupied by melielongtime.  All good. ;) Ill be the bigger one then. You say 10%, I say 70%. Neither are going to give proof, so we can agree to disagree. Unless of course you think your opinion is better than everyone elses and no evidence required. isnt that the case with most lefties??? ;)

You never read anything by Macca, LW or most of the other conservatives??????

Pyne should be kicked out of parliament for saying its would to be his job since it would be jis job if he was the education minister.  Meanwhile his counterpart isnt doing it very well either. What we need is a whole new lot in there.

SOB

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:37pm:

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:25pm: salad in wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:12am: MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:17am: Quote: The Hon Peter Garrett MP Minister for School Education Minister for Early Childhood and Youth Christopher Pyne has shown once again that he has no idea about how the school funding system works or what our plans are - and he has no interest in finding out. [...] http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/pyne-gets-it-wrong-again C'mon MOTR, you can do better. The Honourable Peter Garrett MP is the very same boofhead who couldn't figure out how to vote so he never voted for...what was it?...9 or 10 years. He couldn't even figure out the donkey vote system. He now has the hide to question someone's understanding of the education system. Pure folderol. It's like Big Kev (254kg) from the Biggest Loser giving dieting advice. Pure folderol. hilarious....wasnt Peter in charge of caterpillars or was it lizards at one stage of his illustrious career..I seem to remember him taking a mighty fall after the pinkbatts shambles.. can anyone tell me what BER did for education???????????????? I know it cost more than $16bn... but what exactly did it do to improve my grandchildrens education?????????? maybe taught them how not to implement a $16bn policy and get bugger all value from it.. It was found that in about 98% of cases the BER got value for money but don't be too concerned about the facts. That is just a normal conservative trait.

hilarious... I SAID EDUCATION...if you can show me where $16bn went towards better educating my grandkids... good on you!!!!

so far as I could tell an awful lot went on high priced canteens and halls thats the schools didnt want..... and what that does for education I have no idea...my family still have to buy the books their children use at school..which last time I heard books had everything to do with education..unless you include broken down computers the way to go..


I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACTS.....THATS THE TROUBLE DNA....


what FACTS do you have that BER educated my grandkids...thank you... I await your list...

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:53pm:

cods wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:27pm: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:21pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:08pm: Quote: Like I said, I dont care. Give me proof it was 10%. Pretty sure you want and I dont even care if you dont. Give me proof I said it was 10%, as opposed to a mere conjectural comment.  All I am saying is that of the 60% you refer to, my guess was that less than 10% of the voting population actually saw Pyne 'doing it in style.' Now, if you can't get yourself 'beyond' that......'I don't care.'  I'll just put you in the same pigeon hole as is occupied by melielongtime.  All good. ;) Ill be the bigger one then. You say 10%, I say 70%. Neither are going to give proof, so we can agree to disagree. Unless of course you think your opinion is better than everyone elses and no evidence required. isnt that the case with most lefties??? ;) You never read anything by Macca, LW or most of the other conservatives??????

yes I do but I also take a look at aussie.skippy and adel... make up your own mind..unless of course you dont read your own side..

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 6:06am:

Pyne should be kicked out of parliament for saying its would to be his job since it would be jis job if he was the education minister.  Meanwhile his counterpart isnt doing it very well either. What we need is a whole new lot in there. SOB

what makes you think he will be education minister ?????

cods wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:10am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 6:06am: Pyne should be kicked out of parliament for saying its would to be his job since it would be jis job if he was the education minister.  Meanwhile his counterpart isnt doing it very well either. What we need is a whole new lot in there. SOB what makes you think he will be education minister ?????

Doesnt matter if he will or wont be he thinks its not the job of the education minister

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:49am:

cods wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 7:10am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 6:06am: Pyne should be kicked out of parliament for saying its would to be his job since it would be jis job if he was the education minister.  Meanwhile his counterpart isnt doing it very well either. What we need is a whole new lot in there. SOB what makes you think he will be education minister ????? Doesnt matter if he will or wont be he thinks its not the job of the education minister SOB

what! isnt the ministers job???

when I watched Q&A a few weeks ago.. I tend to ignore that show now... but Pyne and Garrett was on and I thought Pyne left Garrett looking like an amateur.. all Garrett had was more attacks on the libs..I think people are over that to be honest.

cods wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:56am:

but Pyne and Garrett was on and I thought Pyne left Garrett looking like an amateur

can i suggest you put your glasses on next time ... Garret left Pyne looking like a fool

cods wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:56am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 7:49am: cods wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 7:10am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 6:06am: Pyne should be kicked out of parliament for saying its would to be his job since it would be jis job if he was the education minister.  Meanwhile his counterpart isnt doing it very well either. What we need is a whole new lot in there. SOB what makes you think he will be education minister ????? Doesnt matter if he will or wont be he thinks its not the job of the education minister SOB what! isnt the ministers job??? when I watched Q&A a few weeks ago.. I tend to ignore that show now... but Pyne and Garrett was on and I thought Pyne left Garrett looking like an amateur.. all Garrett had was more attacks on the libs..I think people are over that to be honest.

What has that got to do with it?

SOB

cods wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:06am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 6:37pm: . It was found that in about 98% of cases the BER got value for money but don't be too concerned about the facts. That is just a normal conservative trait. hilarious... I SAID EDUCATION...if you can show me where $16bn went towards better educating my grandkids... good on you!!!! so far as I could tell an awful lot went on high priced canteens and halls thats the schools didnt want..... and what that does for education I have no idea...my family still have to buy the books their children use at school..which last time I heard books had everything to do with education..unless you include broken down computers the way to go.. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACTS.....THATS THE TROUBLE DNA.... what FACTS do you have that BER educated my grandkids...thank you... I await your list...

Your Grand kids may have been much better off being educated in old run down buildings.

I doubt that they would agree but don't worry too much we may soon have a conservative government again and can then have the pleasure of watching money being taken out of education and the standards run down again.