Post by Swagman on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:43pm
MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:05pm:
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Title: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:43am
NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD
March 2013 STEPHEN KOUKOULAS If the electorate focuses on the economy as it votes at the Federal election on September 14, the Labor Party should win. An era of rising wealth, sustained solid growth, near full employment and on-going lift in living standards are the material that should get an incumbent reelected. While it is political poison to say to the general population, “you’ve never had it so good”, the cold, hard macroeconomic facts on the economy, real wages growth, wealth and incomes suggests Australians have never been richer, never been better off. At a macroeconomic level, the economy grew by a healthy 3.1 percent through 2012, while annual inflation ended the year at 2.2 percent, in the lower half of the Reserve Bank’s target band. Right through 2012, the unemployment rate was low, holding between 5 and 5.5 percent which in fact locks in a decade where Australia’s unemployment rate has been below 6 percent. This is a remarkable achievement given global events, the near depression in the developed world and the substantial structural changes that have occurred in the local economy. While there is nothing particularly spectacular about 3.1 percent GDP growth, 2.2 percent inflation or the unemployment holding at 5.5 percent or below, to have them occurring simultaneously is rare. Australia’s economic history has many examples where GDP growth has been well above 3 percent, but this has normally seen inflation rise, which eats away at real incomes and forces interest rates higher. Similarly, there are many episodes where the annual inflation rate has been 2.2 percent or lower, but this has usually occurred when the unemployment rate is high and rising. To have this trifecta of excellent macroeconomic news owes a lot to the economic management of the economy and is something that is overlooked by an electorate that seems to be preoccupied with boat people, the marginal hip-pocket impact of the carbon price, the trivial levels of government debt and other ephemeral issues. Looked at another way, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that whoever wins the election in September, they would be delighted to lock in a further three years where the macroeconomic numbers we have before us now are repeated each and every year of their term of office. Frankly, it is just about impossible to do any better. Having said that, it is clear that not everyone is sharing the benefits of the purple patch for the Australian economy. There are regions, industries and individuals that are not sharing the good times that the strong economy is delivering. Such unevenness is inevitable whether the economy is strong or weak, but it is important to emphasise that it is not the job of the RBA to set interest rates for Tasmania or manufacturing, for example, or for the government to spend too much money propping up industries that are succumbing to the reality of extinction due to high costs, inefficiency or some other factor outside the government control. Where the government can and should help, and this is where the current government has done well, is to provide a framework that provides a safety net for the sectors, businesses and individuals who are hurting as the rest of the economy powers ahead. The mining tax raised revenue to boost superannuation for those not directly involved in the boom sectors. Retraining, skills and even some financial support is allocated to individuals who lose their jobs as the sectors they work in shrink. Maintaining a strong overall economy will also see job opportunities show up in the sectors in the fast lane expand. For all of the thousands of jobs lost in recent years in Qantas, Boral, the banks, the steel and aluminum firms, Santos, Holden, Toyota and Caltex, to name a few, there are 850,000 more people employed today than there were five years ago. Presumably the bulk of the people who were proverbially “thrown on to the unemployment scrap heap” have been re-engaged elsewhere in the workforce. On an individual level, the recent sharp rise in share prices and the resumption of what appears to be solid growth in house prices is good news for the bulk of the electorate. From the low point in 2012, the market value of the ASX 200 stock index has risen by close to $350 billion, including dividends, which will be a nice boost to retirees and those with a superannuation fund. The rise in house prices has added around $125 billion to the wealth of residential property holders in the last three months alone. This should be pleasing to the two-thirds of the population that own a house. Having a job, rising wealth and rising real wages is good news and cannot be due to simple dumb luck. Generally prudent monetary policy and use of fiscal policy in a counter-cyclical way has underpinned the current economic strength. The polls are showing that the Coalition will romp in at the election in September, even though the mix of hard economic news has rarely, if ever, been better. Stephen Koukoulas is Managing Director of Market Economics. He writes a daily column for Business Spectator. marketeconomics.com.au |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:49am
Can I genuinely ask you MOTR why you are so worried about Labor losing the coming election?
You have posted a number of pro Labor threads (the pinnacle being the embarrassing misleading poll one) and I just wonder why you appear so desperate they turn around their fortunes? |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Swagman on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:57am Quote:
April fool's day is tomorrow..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:59am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:49am:
I'm just providing a bit of balance to the debate. As for the poll thread, 53% of voters polled did indicate their preferred result was a Labor government win. Read the OP, Andrei. [quote] MOTR wrote on Mar 29th, 2013 at 1:19pm:
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:02pm Swagman wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:57am:
Fools day is every day for a labrat. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:03pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:59am:
So if I go back to that thread, there will be a post where you affirmed the 53%. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:06pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:59am:
You want to bring balance to the debate? I'm sorry, but your increasingly bizarre posts lead me to believe you're mentally unbalanced and that I am right to call you "Comical Ali"... |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:08pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:03pm:
http://www.afr.com/p/national/labor_faces_annihilation_in_marginal_MRqll2ldnEA2yvStbw4IMM You'll find this comes straight from the Australian Financial Review. It's an interesting anomaly. It indicates to me that Abbott's lead is pretty soft. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:10pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:08pm:
So you are still just using a quote or can you point out where that 53% lay in the numbers. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:14pm
Unfortunately, the specific question is not provided.
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:17pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:14pm:
Disappointing. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:18pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:17pm:
I agree. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:26pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:06pm:
I see there is nothing in the article you are prepared to challenge. Ad hominems are so much easier. I guess that's why you call yourself armchair, can't really be bothered putting in the effort. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:30pm
I feel, that if labor had of gotten their surplus when they said they would have, on 300 occasions and the PM saying "failure is not an option" so therefore they are failures. Then the polls would have turned around a bit. Not saying a winning upward trend, but an upward trend none the less.
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by John Smith on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:49am:
why are you so desperate to see Gillard sink? Please don't say its because of any negative effect this govt. may have had on you ... you don't live in country and didn't pay any taxes ... any effect on you is negligible at best. We also know it's not because you care about the country ... it's obvious you don't Is it because of the millions of $$ in grants Abbott has promised your employer in the US? |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:42pm progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Still got a long way to go, progs. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by bogarde73 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:02pm
Voters are focused on the economy MOTR. That's why Labor is going down the tubes without a snorkel.
Believe it, accept it and learn to live with an Abbott govt. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:05pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:02pm:
Can you substantiate that position |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:08pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Every week that goes by a policy turns to shite, a promise is dropped, a party looks a mess. All from labor. How deep do you want the hole. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:17pm
All governments go to the people with broken promises and cock ups. However, few go to the people in such a healthy economic position. When it comes to the crunch the economy puts the competency of the government into some sort of perspective.
Are people going to risk the economy's levers to the economically illiterate Abbott. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by bogarde73 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:20pm
I wouldn't call 4 (5th coming up) huge budget deficits in a row a healthy position. Unless of course you believe in the position that a govt should continuously run in the red, borrowing from Peter every day to pay Paul, which is evidenced by the constant cutting & slicing & redefining of programs.
And yes, they are going to take a punt on Abbott and it will be the best bet they've made since 2007. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:26pm
And you know exactly the sh1t we'd be in if they were running surpluses for the same period of time. The economy is in a healthy position because they were prepared to run a countercyclical fiscal policy.
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:28pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:17pm:
Australians, us, we expect a little decorum. Gillard selling us out to gain power wasn't it. Gillard saying failure is not an option for a deficit, so she refuses to answer a legitimate question, only to fail anyway, was not it. Telling us we are extemists for not liking being lied to, wasnt it. Remaining in power above and beyond her own rules of bad polls and your out of here Kevin Rudd. And all the lies that came with that, wasnt it. Putting our debt to record levels from what we worked so hard for to get to zero, wasnt it. The hole is pretty deep. There are many things I am sure I have left out. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by bogarde73 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:29pm
And as to the punt you know they are going to make?
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Maqqa on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:36pm
Gillard's economic advisor praising his own work
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Swagman on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:43pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:05pm:
http://www.newspoll.com.au/opinion-polls-2/opinion-polls-2/ |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:47pm Swagman wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:43pm:
So there are quite a few people that haven't put much thought into it. It's time Labor did a better job of selling their accomplishments. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:18pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:43am:
they said the same thin in 2007 when the economy was vastly better. Perhaps - just perhaps - the issues in the election are a little more more than just the economy? Maybe they just don't like lies and incompetence. Perhaps leadership that is always at each others throats is not exactly garnering admiration or confidence. Perhaps the repeated corruption and criminality in the ALP and union movement have made people uneasy about letting them near the honey jar? |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:19pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:59am:
and on the actual SUBSTANTIATED part of the poll it showed the 2PP was almost 60/40 and a 80 seat abbot majority. forget that bit, did you? |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by froggie on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:20pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:49am:
And why are YOU so concerned with the Coalition NOT winning the next election? You don't even live in the freaking country!!!! :D |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Kat on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:20pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:02pm:
Actually, no. They're focused on the LIBERAL version of the economy, which bears no relationship to the ACTUAL economy. And their ridiculous perception of our supposed 'insurmountable' debt. In fact, if their perception goes anywhere NEAR the tripe posted by some on here, I'd say they're not intelligent and/or informed enough to be allowed to vote. Some of the 'righties' on here CERTAINLY aren't. A major portion of the Con-alition's 'support' doesn't come from those who want a Con-alition govt, it's from those who DON'T want Gillard and her slimy cohorts. I can see the stupidity and gullibility the electorate displayed in 1975 being re-enacted in 2013. Wonder how long it'll take them THIS time to realise they backed the wrong horse? |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:24pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:17pm:
He has an economics degree plus was a senior member of the former govt who ran the economy far better. in the meantime Swan has managed the worst debt and worst deficits EVER. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:27pm Kat wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:20pm:
if history is any guide, 9-15 years. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:29pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:26pm:
except it isnt counter-cyclical. that would imply a desire and capacity to return to the black, neither of which labor has demonstrated. all labor has done is what they ALWAYS do which is to spend like a drunken sailor and then ask someone else to pay the bills. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:31pm Maqqa wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:36pm:
the guy already has a deeply discredited past and some of his blogs and articles are frankly factually incorrect as well as analytically dubious. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:54pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:31pm:
Should be easy for you to highlight the mistakes he is making. Stop being so lazy, longy. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Aussie on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:07pm Quote:
Please explain who/why we retain AAA rating from internationally acknowledged economic performance Judges? Take care melielongtime......they have an interest in protecting their integrity, so I would not just post something like, 'melielongtime know better than them.' ;) |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by bogarde73 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:30pm
I can see the stupidity and gullibility the electorate displayed in 1975 being re-enacted in 2013.
Kat, in 1975 I was outraged by the dismissal. To a degree I still consider it as an act in contravention of parliamentary democracy. But the voters didn't get it wrong. They got it wrong in 1974 by not voting Whitlam out then and limiting the damage. The Whitlam govt was the most destructive event for our society up till the election of this present govt. The jury is still out on which will be judged the worst. These days I am deeply grateful that our constitution allowed for those reserve powers in the Governor-General and that we had one with the courage to exercise them at great personal cost. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by progressiveslol on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:33pm Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:07pm:
They love people who have debt. They will bend over for you if you can keep paying for it. Sounds like a bank to me. Sounds like a false sense of success too, escpecially when the guy down the road has zero debt and thousands per month spare, but yet the banks dont chase him up to see if he needs a loan any more. This example is all in line with why the liberals had to wait many many years to get AAA and never obtained 3 AAA's within their successful economic managment. Just like the guy down the road. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:39pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:54pm:
I will highlight on of his faux pas from the past. he claimed in an artlcle that Fraser left $40B in debt while treasury reports $9B. And evne without this failing, he can hardly be called an impartial observer since he was Gillards economic adviser. He is hardly going to criticise his own advice! |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:41pm Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:07pm:
they are actually internationally CRITICISED. Lehman bros had a AAA rating and Greece had one until not that long ago. The ratings agencies missed the GFC and have been roundly criticized for their assessments of banks. The AAA rating is deserved, but not because these clowns give it. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:42pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:30pm:
amen! thats why reserve powers exist so that in the event of a situation like that there is an election. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Aussie on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:52pm Quote:
Evidence please. Quote:
Evidence please. Quote:
..........and to round it off.......evidence please. ;) |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:02pm Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 3:52pm:
Evidence please. Quote:
..........and to round it off.......evidence please. ;)[/quote] research it yourself you twit. is your memory that bad that events of a mere 4-5 years ago have fallen out of your skull? |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Aussie on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:26pm
I knew I had named him well as melielongtime:
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Run away melielongtime. Makes all the assertions, and just cannot back them up with evidence. ;) |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:29pm Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:26pm:
and you lack the courage to disprove me and simply poke out your tongue and pretend you make a cogent argument. this could be why in any debate of substance you are nowhere to be seen. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Aussie on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:48pm
It's easy melielongtime. You made the unsubstantiated claims..............and as is typical of liars like you......you run away from your assertions. All good.
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by longweekend58 on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:50pm Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:48pm:
well there's the rub. your opinion is pretty worthless since you never make an actual contribution of substance to any thread or topic. we dont get to criticise the content of your posts because there never is any content to criticise. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Aussie on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:58pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:50pm:
Yes, I am almost Abbott like, do you think? ;) |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by John Smith on Mar 31st, 2013 at 5:04pm John Smith wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm:
bump for Andrei |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by John Smith on Mar 31st, 2013 at 5:04pm Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:58pm:
;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Mnemonic on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:52pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:24pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:29pm:
I am curious longweekend. Do you know the history of the Great Depression of 1929/1930? Are you aware of the Keynesian theory of what happens in a deep recession that affects several countries and what to do about it? The idea is that when the financial system starts failing, banks stop lending and companies start making employees redundant, there is less money in the economy. The economy shrinks. The government needs to stimulate the economy to keep it going, so people will keep spending, so there won't be runs on banks, companies won't fire as many people and unemployment doesn't rise to dangerous levels. In order to do that, it has to use up whatever surplus it has and run a deficit. I agree that some of the Rudd/Gillard Government's policies were silly, shoddy, unnecessary and just ill-conceived, but some of the debt was necessary. Now that Australia is recovering from the GFC, it doesn't need to stimulate the economy as much. Australia is ready to pay back the debt. I just think Wayne Swan was stupid for promising a return to the surplus because the state of the world economy was still very uncertain. There was no guarantee you'd have the same demand from China, or that you would get the revenue from the MRRT that you wanted. Wayne Swan was an idiot to be so optimistic. He should have kept his mouth shut. He should have been more conservative. When there's so much economic turmoil in Europe, you don't go around promising a surplus here. The Gillard/Swan Government is incompetent not because they can't keep Australia's economy going, but because they keep making stupid promises. They are so indecisive. Their policies keep having to be revised. They're erratic and have no consistent direction. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Mnemonic on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:58pm Kat wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:20pm:
The problem with the Gillard/Swan Government today is their failure at public relations. Going in to debt to deal with the GFC is understandable, but they promised a surplus and didn't deliver one. Do you remember what Paul Keating said when asked why we had a recession? He said it was "a recession we had to have." What did people think back then? It was a stupid thing to say. He mismanaged the situation. The Keating government applied the stimulus too late. Keating stuffed up and tried to say it wasn't his fault. It's not like he couldn't have done anything about it. Now here it is again. Wayne Swan says something really stupid and now the Labor Government is suffering the consequences. If you're in government and your polls are bad, there is no margin for error. It doesn't matter how well the economy is doing relative to the rest of the world. If it was really doing so well, people expect much more from this government. A country that is doing so well relative to other developed countries should not have such an incompetent government. You would think the Gillard/Swan Government would have taken advantage of this opportunity to polish their reputation, but they wasted it. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 31st, 2013 at 10:11pm MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 1:17pm:
They certainly are. Rather the Coalition than incompetent Labor. |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by namnugenot on Mar 31st, 2013 at 10:38pm chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 10:11pm:
I can't wait to tell Gillard how pleased I am ;) |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by namnugenot on Mar 31st, 2013 at 10:49pm namnugenot wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 10:38pm:
I might even do it twice ;D |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Maqqa on Apr 1st, 2013 at 2:41am MOTR wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 2:54pm:
Lets start with the first 2 sentences Quote:
Looking at the polls - the voters are concerned most about the cost of living and they have given the LIBs 2PP 58/42 Rising wealth compared to the LIBs era is bad Sustained growth - only 15% for the 5 years is terrible Near full employment - under the LIBs it was 4% now it's at 5.5% under Labor |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by MOTR on Apr 1st, 2013 at 4:02am
See how the Libs have airbrushed the GFC out of existence. Good one, Maqqa.
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by namnugenot on Apr 1st, 2013 at 7:49am MOTR wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 4:02am:
You seem terribly desperate Motr |
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Maqqa on Apr 1st, 2013 at 8:08am namnugenot wrote on Apr 1st, 2013 at 7:49am:
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Title: Re: If voters focus on the economy, Labor will win. Post by Maqqa on Apr 1st, 2013 at 8:11am
So what does all that mean when I put the Currency graph in?
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