It looks like Tony is the only one in his family who hates gays and lesbians and thinks they are second class citizens not deserving of the same rights the rest of us take for granted.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/16479330/abbott-under-pressure-on-gay-marriage/

So according to you, Tony Abbott isn't permitted to have a differing point of view?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:27pm:

So according to you, Tony Abbott isn't permitted to have a differing point of view?

He can, he just isn't permitted to change his view every 2 hours, depending on who he is talking to. ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:27pm: So according to you, Tony Abbott isn't permitted to have a differing point of view? He can, he just isn't permitted to change his view every 2 hours, depending on who he is talking to. ;D

Ok, so you remind me of why it is best for the people who have differing views on gays, just to keep them views. Never change your thinking and keep the box locked.

Why stop at gays. Lets have that type of thinking in all aspects of life. I think you are on a winner.

No I dont. I think you are a desperate little person.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:28pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:27pm: So according to you, Tony Abbott isn't permitted to have a differing point of view? He can, he just isn't permitted to change his view every 2 hours, depending on who he is talking to. ;D Ok, so you remind me of why it is best for the people who have differing views on gays, just to keep them views. Never change your thinking and keep the box locked. Why stop at gays. Lets have that type of thinking in all aspects of life. I think you are on a winner. No I dont. I think you are a desperate little person.

Is subway open today??

John Smith wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 4:51pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:45pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:28pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 4:27pm: So according to you, Tony Abbott isn't permitted to have a differing point of view? He can, he just isn't permitted to change his view every 2 hours, depending on who he is talking to. ;D Ok, so you remind me of why it is best for the people who have differing views on gays, just to keep them views. Never change your thinking and keep the box locked. Why stop at gays. Lets have that type of thinking in all aspects of life. I think you are on a winner. No I dont. I think you are a desperate little person. Is subway open today??

Yep, that's where Labor's vote hangs out these days. Underground...

Hating homos and denying them basic human rights is peculiar to the worlds ultra conservatives such as the US Tea Baggers, Abbotts Liberal Party faction, the Taliban and corrupt African Warlords.
But now Abbott has a chance to change his ways and listen to his daughters and his sister on gay marriage...What will he do?

He can't afford too, half his front bench would come out.

Progs, if 51% of the population though Abbott should embrace homos, would that make it the honourable thing to do?

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Hating homos and denying them basic human rights is peculiar to the worlds ultra conservatives such as the US Tea Baggers, Abbotts Liberal Party faction, the Taliban and corrupt African Warlords. But now Abbott has a chance to change his ways and listen to his daughters and his sister on gay marriage...What will he do?

Yes the only discussion you can have in Australian (US) politics is WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON GAY MARRIAGE, ABORTION and REFUGEES.

You cannot discuss how Banks operate in this country. The level of taxation that applies to the rich and corporations.

You cannot discuss why we follow the USA and the UK into senseless illegal wars

Why are we still in Afganastan killing children who are hearding cattle across the field?

What are we doing there?

Why did we enter the illegal war in Iraq? What did we do there? How many civilians did the Australian forces kill?

Who owns our so called Australian Mining industry?

How much tax should they pay?

Should our mining and energy resources be 83% foreign owned?

What sort of health system should we have?

What sort of Education system should we have?

Are these adequately funded?

Should private schools receive tax payers money

Should private hospitals receive tax payers money?

Should foreign corporations such as GM and FOrd receive millions of dollars of tax payers money JUST to keep their auto plants running in AUstralia.

Should we make our own cars with Australian owned companies?

No - WE STICK TO ABORTION, REFUGESS AND GAy MARRAIGE

the critical issues of society

we are smacking nuts in this nations - absolute suckers

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:59pm:

He can't afford too, half his front bench would come out.

I don't know what his front bench would do, and don't want to know.

Seeing him in his budgie smugglers he doesn't have a very large front bench, anyway.

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 6:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 31st, 2013 at 5:59pm: He can't afford too, half his front bench would come out. I don't know what his front bench would do, and don't want to know. Seeing him in his budgie smugglers he doesn't have a very large front bench, anyway.

But gillard has a lot on the backbench in more ways than one.

adelcrow wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Hating homos and denying them basic human rights is peculiar to the worlds ultra conservatives such as the US Tea Baggers, Abbotts Liberal Party faction, the Taliban and corrupt African Warlords.

That's your list of intollerence to gays...

Does the research exhaust you?

Stupid thread.
Abbott has more important things to concern him.

I'm absolutely tired of those supporting gay marriage trying to convince the rest of us to change our opinion on the subject.

You have your opinion, I'll have mine.

I suspect that like John Howard, Tony Abbots professed Christian faith is a lie and he will turn out to be a radical like John Howard imposing Anarchistic doctrines like self reliance and individualism.

Interesting How Taliban Tony Abbott supported the IRaq invasion in 2003 (and still does) when the Pope in the Vatican made a public statement that the war should cease.

Abbott rationalised this by saying that his political life is separate from his personal faith and beliefs

lol

So the slaughter of 1.42 million Iraqi civilians is OK - but Taliban Tony cannot drag himself away from some interpretation of the Scriptures that morally looks down upon homosexuality

Remember what the public MUST focus on

1 Gay marriage
2 Abortion
3 Asylum seekers

What sort of society and economy we want is OFF the agenda

What wars we fund and participate in is OFF the agenda

What ideals and future plans we have for our nation is OFF the agenda

Only gay marriage, abortion and asylum seekers - that's it

corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:08pm:

I suspect that like John Howard, Tony Abbots professed Christian faith is a lie and he will turn out to be a radical like John Howard imposing Anarchistic doctrines like self reliance and individualism.

youre most probably right on what Taliban TOny would do if elected as PM

But I don't understand why you would describe anything Howard did as Anarchistic

Anarchism is not about chaos in the streets, or individualism

Anarchism is a Greek word and is well defined. Its a system where there are NO RULERS, it is not a system where there are no rules.

Anarchism is a system which is perhaps the highest form of freedom and democracy a society could potentially enjoy. It is the antithesis of Tyranny and totalitarianism.

look it up - do some research in Anarchism and read some works by Anarchists over the ages.

Howard's policies were best described as Stalinist type statism. Howard was also the biggest spending PM in our history. I suggest that you examine WHAT Howard spend his massive budgets on - that will expose what Howard represented and what his ideals were

Howard was easily the second worst PM this country has ever had

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:10pm:

Interesting How Taliban Tony Abbott supported the IRaq invasion in 2003 (and still does) when the Pope in the Vatican made a public statement that the war should cease. Abbott rationalised this by saying that his political life is separate from his personal faith and beliefs lol So the slaughter of 1.42 million Iraqi civilians is OK - but Taliban Tony cannot drag himself away from some interpretation of the Scriptures that morally looks down upon homosexuality Remember what the public MUST focus on 1 Gay marriage 2 Abortion 3 Asylum seekers What sort of society and economy we want is OFF the agenda What wars we fund and participate in is OFF the agenda What ideals and future plans we have for our nation is OFF the agenda Only gay marriage, abortion and asylum seekers - that's it

And which other countries on the planet allow the public to decide policy?
It doesn't happen so why expect it here.

Abbot should clarify to us if he intends to radically impose on Christians "Muscular Individualism" an atheist doctrine that violates our religious freedom...