http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/16490713/federal-approval-for-was-first-uranium-mine/

The Federal Environment Minister has approved Western Australia's first potential uranium mine.

Tony Burke has given the final environmental go ahead to Toro Energy's project at Wiluna in the Goldfields, subject to 36 conditions.

Mr Burke says they include measures to protect local groundwater from radiation and to ensure the area is left safe for humans and animals once the mine is closed.

The mine has already received state government approval.

Federal Resources Minister, Gary Gray, says it will create an economic and employment boost for the region.

He says it is up to Toro to announce how many jobs the project will generate.

"What we're looking at is a project that will bring substantial local social benefits and also local social investments training and jobs; indigenous jobs and jobs at Wiluna," he said.

"So, jobs that will be critical for supporting the local infrastructure and the local community.

"We'd expect this to have a mine life of in excess of a decade, and we would expect this to process in excess of a million tons of ore annually, and around three-quarters of a million tons of oxide.

"Now to do that will have a range of local economic implications and it'll also be a major job creator and creator of training opportunities for good mining jobs into the future for local Indigenous people."

Opposition remains

The Conservation Council, which opposes uranium mining in the state, is not surprised by the Federal Government decision.

The council's Mia Pepper says Toro still faces a number of barriers.

"The difference between Toro Energy and a lot of other companies is that they're a small company with no proven experience and they don't necessarily have the capacity to manage a project of this size, and with this particular mineral," she said.

"Some of the concerns raised through the Federal Minister's decision is clearly about that capacity and dealing with the unforeseen closure of the mine and how they will then manage radioactive waste at the site.

"Still some serious concerns that will become more and more a barrier for Toro Energy as they continue through the approvals process."

The Greens spokesman for nuclear issues Senator Scott Ludlam says this is not the end of his campaign against the mine.

"I take no comfort from these approvals at all," he said.

"I think it proves once and for all that the ALP cannot be trusted on the environment.

"On an issue as serious as this, that Minister Burke thinks you can lock up tens of millions of tons of carcinogenic radioactive waste in the environment on a lake bed that floods effectively for thousands of years, absolutely beggars belief.

"So we will step the campaign up, and for me this is the beginning, rather than the end."

'Highest standards'

Toro's managing director Vanessa Guthrie says the decision paves the way for production to start at the site by the end of 2015.

"It's been a three-and-a-half year process of environmental assessment that has now paved the way for us to move into project financing, and really has been the last regulatory hurdle for us to overcome," she said.

"We have been in discussions for 18 months with a number of interested parties from overseas, mainly in Asia.

"These partners are more in the nuclear utilities and traders end which is the traditional market for long term off-take arrangements with uranium producers.

"There will be 170 jobs in operation, and 350 jobs expected during the construction period."

Dr Guthrie says Toro has gone through a rigorous assessment process and the conditions that have been imposed will ensure environmental impacts are properly managed.

"The conditions issued are appropriate and we are confident we can meet them," she said.

"They really mean the management of the site and operation will be at the strictest and highest standards.

"It gives the community confidence that the mine can be operated safely and in an environmentally appropriate manner."

At the end of last year, Toro said it had secured $12 million in funding needed to continue with its uranium mine project.

The company said the debt facility from Macquarie Bank had increased its working capital from $7.5 million to almost $20 million.

Milne must be sooooo pissed!!!

Mining Tax to be repealed

Now approval for uranium mining

Labor's done SFA about whaling  ;D ;D

This labor mob will do anything want they.

I cant say it is a bad strategy though. Labor know they have 30% brain dead voters on call at any time, so why bother worrying about upsetting the mushrooms.

amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's.

cods wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 6:58am:

amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's.

Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:23am:

cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-?

yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D

Vic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D

Next up will be a Coalition Government approving an International nuclear wast dump in the North!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Vic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:25am:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D

HILARIOUS.

LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now..

Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though...

now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>.

your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this..



like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine..

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:29am:

Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D Next up will be a Coalition Government approving an International nuclear wast dump in the North!!! >:( >:( >:(

I thought you were better than that phil...dont forget it was Bob Hawke that suggested the N.T as a waste dump... not a LIB...

Impossible to calculate how many jobs have been lost and how much profits and tax revenues foregone as a direct result of Labor's ban on uranium mining.

Taxes that could have been spent on health and education and maybe the country wouldn't be reeling in debt?

Stupid left head ideology has cost Australia big time.

Labor and the snotty Greens have a lot to answer for come Sept.
>:( >:(

cods wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:42am:

Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine..

"LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.."


Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you......



- After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia.

- Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below.

http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html

How are the people on social security going to benefit  from this or are they going to follow David Camerons satanic lead of taxing the poor to give to the rich?

Vic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:55am:

cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine.. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you...... - After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia. - Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below. http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html

Don't confuse her with facts bigvic .....

John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:04am:

Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine.. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you...... - After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia. - Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below. http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html Don't confuse her with facts bigvic .....

Get your hand off it....

Tolerating 3 mines for 20 years is hardly being FOR uranium mining.  ::)  The facts are that Labor both federal and State Govts have been blocking uranium mining for 20+ years (your own reference is testimony to this).

Again I ask, just how many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? :-?

:(

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:35am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:04am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine.. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you...... - After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia. - Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below. http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html Don't confuse her with facts bigvic ..... Get your hand off it.... Tolerating 3 mines for 20 years is hardly being FOR uranium mining.  ::)  The facts are that Labor both federal and State Govts have been blocking uranium mining for 20+ years (your own reference is testimony to this). Again I ask, just how many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? :-? :(

you get your hand off it ... limiting it to 3 mines is hardly evidence of labor being against Uranium mining ...

and I don't buy your argument about jobs and money being a reason to justify everything. .. if that was the case why don't we mine the Great Barrier Reef ? it creats jobs and there is money to be made isn't there?...

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:35am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:04am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine.. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you...... - After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia. - Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below. http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html Don't confuse her with facts bigvic ..... Get your hand off it.... Tolerating 3 mines for 20 years is hardly being FOR uranium mining.  ::)  The facts are that Labor both federal and State Govts have been blocking uranium mining for 20+ years (your own reference is testimony to this). Again I ask, just how many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? :-? :(

This was the statement made

"LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.."

Is it true or false?

Quote:

its the Labs have been against it

True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question.

How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. :(

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:43am:

Quote: its the Labs have been against it True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question. How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. :(

Are you just going to invent an answer just like you did with the cost of the Kyoto penalties? Can I suggest you run with Billions ... in the interests of uniformity

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:43am:

Quote: its the Labs have been against it True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question. How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. :(

I doubt if anyone could give a qualitative or quantative answer to that Swag.   I have posted a link for you that contains some interesting reading.  It may or may not answer your question.   

In the mean time - a poster stated that Labor had been against uranium mining up till now - is that a true statement.  I will let you have a think about it ..

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-A-F/Australia--Uranium/

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:43am:

Quote: its the Labs have been against it True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question. How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. :(

you left the 'up till now' part off in the reference.  sorta changes the context don't you think?

Vic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:56am:

Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am: Quote: its the Labs have been against it True.  Now be a good Bigvicfella and answer my question. How many jobs and how much in tax revenues have been foregone to Australia because of Labor's ideological anti-uranium stance? Have a shot Big Vic.  An estimate will have to do. :( you left the 'up till now' part off in the reference.  sorta changes the context don't you think?

Not really bigfella.  'Have' is not 'are'

Labor 'have' indeed been against uranium mining.  This is a true statement as I said or do you disagree?


John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:47am:

Are you just going to invent an answer just like you did with the cost of the Kyoto penalties? Can I suggest you run with Billions ... in the interests of uniformity

Now Smithy you know darn well I did not 'invent' an answer in that thread. :)

Maqqa wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2013 at 10:30pm:

Milne must be sooooo pissed!!! Mining Tax to be repealed Now approval for uranium mining Labor's done SFA about whaling  ;D ;D

What?

Do i dare ask you to explain that one?

Infarction wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 12:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm: Milne must be sooooo pissed!!! Mining Tax to be repealed Now approval for uranium mining Labor's done SFA about whaling  ;D ;D What? Do i dare ask you to explain that one?

Federal Labor’s plan will:

Take Japan to international courts such as the International Court of Justice or the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to end the slaughter of whales;

Make formal representations to the Japanese authorities – at bilateral and multilateral meetings - about its practice of whaling;

Enforce Australian law banning the slaughter of whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary;

Monitor whaling vessels operating in Australian waters, and intercept vessels operating illegally; and

Establish a national network of whale and dolphin sanctuaries.

SFA = Sweet Eff All  :)

Naught, nothing, zero, zilch. nil, zip, odds for ALP winning election..... ;D

Maqqa wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 12:42pm:

Infarction wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:37pm: Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm: Milne must be sooooo pissed!!! Mining Tax to be repealed Now approval for uranium mining Labor's done SFA about whaling  ;D ;D What? Do i dare ask you to explain that one? Federal Labor’s plan will: Take Japan to international courts such as the International Court of Justice or the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to end the slaughter of whales; Make formal representations to the Japanese authorities – at bilateral and multilateral meetings - about its practice of whaling; Enforce Australian law banning the slaughter of whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary; Monitor whaling vessels operating in Australian waters, and intercept vessels operating illegally; and Establish a national network of whale and dolphin sanctuaries.

yes, and?

Oh whaling I thought you meant wailling...

http://www.picturesof.net/_images_300/Toddler_Sitting_on_the_Floor_Wailing_Royalty_Free_Clipart_Picture_100104-152395-763042.jpg

...anyway what's whales got to do with uranium mining? :-/

Nothing. Maqqa just felt the need to once again reinforce the fact he has no clue what it is he is talking about.

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 9:01am:

Now Smithy you know darn well I did not 'invent' an answer in that thread.

How would I know that? You claimed it would cost us Billions and then you said you didn't know what the penalties were ... if you didn't know what the penalties were how could you know what it could cost us? sounds just like make believe to me!!!!!

John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:04am:

Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 6:58am: amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine.. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you...... - After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia. - Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below. http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html Don't confuse her with facts bigvic .....

Three mine policy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The three mine policy, introduced in 1984 and abandoned in 1996, was a policy of the government of Australia to limit the number of uranium mines in the country to three.[1][2]
[edit]History

The foundations of the three-mine policy for uranium mining were laid in 1982, when, at a conference of the Australian Labor Party, the party decided to adopt a "no new mines" policy. At the time, two uranium mines were operating, both in the Northern Territory, Ranger and Nabarlek. However, this new policy left a loophole, as it permitted uranium to be mined as a by-product of other mining operations. The later exception allowed for development of the Olympic Dam mine, located in South Australia, as it also contained gold and copper.[2]
The following year, 1983, Labor won the federal elections and came into power for the first time since 1975.
The three mine policy was officially introduced in 1984, after the federal elections that year had confirmed Bob Hawke of the Labor Party as Prime Minister of Australia. The policy restricted uranium mining in Australia to three existing mines, Ranger, Nabarlek and Olympic Dam.[1]
The policy was abandoned in 1996, after the 1996 federal election replaced the Labor Party with John Howard's Coalition in power.[3] The new policy was to develop the country's uranium mining industry and uranium exports.[1]
The Australian Labor Party changed back its policy in the 1990s to a "no new mines" policy to allow uranium mines already approved by the Coalition government to go ahead.[4] With the opening of a fourth uranium mine in Australia in 2001, the Beverley uranium mine, and the approval of a fifth mine, the Honeymoon uranium mine, Labor's stand had essentially become a "five-mine policy", as Nabarlek had since been closed.[2]
The Labor Party, however, continued its opposition to increased uranium mining until 2006, when, under the leadership of Kim Beazley, discussions to abandon the three mine policy were initiated.[5] The party eventually abandoned the policy in 2007, at a national conference, under the new leadership of Kevin Rudd, but faced heavy internal criticism for it.[6]
Individual states continued t

Sssooooo China onsells Aussie uranium to North Korea and it comes back at us raining down from the sky..
A Pig Iron Bob moment..

Infarction wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 12:44pm:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:42pm: Infarction wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:37pm: Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm: Milne must be sooooo pissed!!! Mining Tax to be repealed Now approval for uranium mining Labor's done SFA about whaling  ;D ;D What? Do i dare ask you to explain that one? Federal Labor’s plan will: Take Japan to international courts such as the International Court of Justice or the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to end the slaughter of whales; Make formal representations to the Japanese authorities – at bilateral and multilateral meetings - about its practice of whaling; Enforce Australian law banning the slaughter of whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary; Monitor whaling vessels operating in Australian waters, and intercept vessels operating illegally; and Establish a national network of whale and dolphin sanctuaries. yes, and?

It's been almost 6 years - how's the court case going?

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:57am:

How are the people on social security going to benefit  from this or are they going to follow David Camerons satanic lead of taxing the poor to give to the rich?

Lol - Goes to prove that a tribe of monkeys will type something that makes sense in the fullness of time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3OA1tNFfo&sns=em

Wrong way go back.

cods wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 4:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:04am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:55am: cods wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:42am: Vic wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:25am: philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:23am: [quote author=cods link=1364905752/3#3 date=1364936314]amazing how they can change their values when their backs are against the wall...dont forget we have also been selling it to India.. another of their No No's. Yet when Tony Abbott changes his values to suit public opinion you claim it is a sign of virtue.....The ALP are allowed to change there stand on any issue it sees fit to advance the economy and the nation.....To resist change based on obsolete values would be the real failure.....I fail to see any substance to this puerile attack on the ALP for changing it's policy on uranium mining.....If changing values is wrong how do you justify Abbott changing his opinion on almost everything??? :-? :-? :-? yes amazing Phil - especially when you read this bit in the posting  "The mine has already received state government approval"    It seems like their precious LIBERAL state government sold them out well before Federal Labor.   But that's OK...it is a Liberal government in WA after all ;D ;D HILARIOUS. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Howard had a contract with India to sell them uranium...with strict rules.. however rudd and Co cancelled that.. Until  I think it was about 2 years ago...they havent made a lot of noise about that though... now suddenly mining is A.OK..with the left...LOL>. your mad if you think the Libs would look a gift horse in the mouth like this.. like most things... its the abuse of the product that is the problem if we have strict rules and even stricter monitoring..things should be fine.. "LIBS have always supported uranium mining... its the Labs have been against it.....up until now.." Really?   Labor have been against it?   Funny, for my previous years in Darwin the stuff was rolling through!  Bit of background for you...... - After winning the 1983 federal election, the ALP adopted a modified version of this policy at a national level, agreeing to continued production at the then-currently operating uranium mines (Nabarlek and Ranger), as well as Olympic Dam, which was then in the planning stages. This 'three mines policy' prevailed through 2007, with the exception of the approval of the start-up of the Beverley mine in 2000 by a Liberal federal government and a Liberal state government in South Australia. - Since 2007, the ALP has followed a new policy, whereby, at a national level, it supports uranium mining, but permits the states to choose whether, and to what degree, to permit uranium mining and exploration. The policies in effect in each state are discussed below. http://www.renaissanceuranium.com.au/renaissance/uraniumsector.html Don't confuse her with facts bigvic .....

Three mine policy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The three mine policy, introduced in 1984 and abandoned in 1996, was a policy of the government of Australia to limit the number of uranium mines in the country to three.[1][2]
[edit]History

the first time since 1975.


LOL I quote a mining source and Nana quotes WIKI.  Let me show you your mistake Nana in your posting
The Labor Party, however, continued its opposition to increased uranium mining .

see that word Nana? Increased.  Did they close down existing?   Did they oppose existing?  The crap has been running through the NT for decades - under both parties.
   

quote reliable sources - there's a good girl

The Greens cannot have their yellowcake and eat it too. :D
If Labor is to provide for the type of gross socialist state that the Greens are hoping we will provide for whereby hundreds of thousands of uninvited long term unemployable 3rd world country shoppers arrive ready for us to support, the fact remains it has to be paid for.
As yet, exporting sunshine or renewable fart gas is not an option.
However, Uranium is.
The Greens cannot have this issue both ways.

Maqqa wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 4:31pm:

Infarction wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:44pm: Maqqa wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:42pm: Infarction wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 12:37pm: Maqqa wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 10:30pm: Milne must be sooooo pissed!!! Mining Tax to be repealed Now approval for uranium mining Labor's done SFA about whaling  ;D ;D What? Do i dare ask you to explain that one? Federal Labor’s plan will: Take Japan to international courts such as the International Court of Justice or the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea to end the slaughter of whales; Make formal representations to the Japanese authorities – at bilateral and multilateral meetings - about its practice of whaling; Enforce Australian law banning the slaughter of whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary; Monitor whaling vessels operating in Australian waters, and intercept vessels operating illegally; and Establish a national network of whale and dolphin sanctuaries. yes, and? It's been almost 6 years - how's the court case going?

Oh, You don't know?

That's a shock.........

The mere fact you mention that there is one also indicates they have done something and not sfa as you claimed.

Chalk up yet another example of maqqa  having no idea what he is on about.

Anyone keeping count? It would be a massive number by now!!

Vic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Three mine policy From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The three mine policy, introduced in 1984 and abandoned in 1996, was a policy of the government of Australia to limit the number of uranium mines in the country to three.[1][2] [edit]History the first time since 1975. LOL I quote a mining source and Nana quotes WIKI.  Let me show you your mistake Nana in your posting The Labor Party, however, continued its opposition to increaseduranium mining . see that word Nana? Increased.  Did they close down existing?   Did they oppose existing?  The crap has been running through the NT for decades - under both parties.

So they are (or were before they flip flopped) opposed to "increased" uranium mining.

Labor still opposed new mines for 20 years because they were ideologically against them like all lefties.  So what if it was good for the economy? 

They sold the rest of Australia out because of ideology? >:(

Lots of jobs & squillions of dollars in tax revenues foregone because of a few radical lefties in the ALP. :-/ :-/

Infarction wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 5:49am:

Oh, You don't know? That's a shock......... The mere fact you mention that there is one also indicates they have done something and not sfa as you claimed. Chalk up yet another example of maqqa  having no idea what he is on about. Anyone keeping count? It would be a massive number by now!!

Your stupidity and lack of understand is boundless

I said they've done SFA about the whaling

So the moron is you

Dear oh dear.

What do you think the court case is about maqqa?

Hence the SFA comment

6 years - still no results

Like I said...Pig Iron Bob all over again.

Yellow Cake Julia....

Maqqa wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Hence the SFA comment 6 years - still no results

You have shown in the recent past that you have no clue about the courts so i am not surprised by your line of reasoning here.

But the ICJ not yet making a decision does not equate to the Australian Government doing SFA. They have done what they said they would do with the ICJ and this issue.

The kiwis recently became a little involved in this which has delayed a decision.

Anything further you wish to embarrass yourself over maqqa?