Abbott forecasts Flannery job loss

    AAP
    April 03, 2013


FEDERAL Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has forecast a job loss for chief climate commissioner Tim Flannery if the coalition wins power at the next election.     :-?

And he says climate change and carbon tax bureaucracies set up by the Labor government would also go under a coalition government when it abolishes the carbon tax.

When asked on Macquarie Radio on Wednesday if Professor Flannery would be "consigned to the wastepaper basket of bureaucracy", Mr Abbott said he thought there were four climate and carbon tax bureaucracies in place.

"When the carbon tax goes, all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley.

"It does sound like an unnecessary position given that the gentleman in question gives us the benefit of his views without needing taxpayer funding," Mr Abbott said.

Australian Greens leader Christine Milne said it was another extreme policy from Mr Abbott, who in the past had labelled the science of climate change as "crap".

"Frankly, all of his policies are in line with that view," Senator Milne told reporters in Canberra.     :(

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/abbott-forecasts-flannery-job-loss/story-e6frfku9-1226611491455#ixzz2PMDZyvux

Timmy will be ok he will get a job with the ALP.

They'll likely make him a senator in the NT.....

I can't see it as extreme. You would expect Milne to say so but that counts for less than nothing.
Flannery is not a scientist, he's a politician spruiking a particular world view which becomes more discredited as time goes on . . .as some of us realised it would.
To the bin with him!

Milne is a gold mine of votes for the Coalition.

all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley.

It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone.

It is just what they do the best.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 11:35am:

all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best.

.......especially those that are porking from the public

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 11:19am:

Milne is a gold mine of votes for the Coalition.

VERY ASTUTE.  julia needs to uncouple herself from that fool . a problem when you formed a government with them.

I was not aware a public servant's job was given for life

Nice policy Mr Abbott. You have my vote.

"It does sound like an unnecessary position given that the gentleman in question gives us the benefit of his views without needing taxpayer funding," Mr Abbott said.

The man makes a very valid point  ;D ;D

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 11:56am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public

Actually those are the safest.

How is it 'extreme' to implement a basic policy? or is it just considered extreme when it differs from the ACTU position?

Maqqa wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 12:37pm:

I was not aware a public servant's job was given for life

Who said they were but here we have a Liberal not even elected and he is already threatening everyone he can with the boot.

Imagine if we were stupid enough to actually elect him, Newman all over again.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 3:19pm:

How is it 'extreme' to implement a basic policy? or is it just considered extreme when it differs from the ACTU position?

I would think the pleasure that the conservatives always get from sacking people for no real gain is pretty extreeme.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 3:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 3:19pm: How is it 'extreme' to implement a basic policy? or is it just considered extreme when it differs from the ACTU position? I would think the pleasure that the conservatives always get from sacking people for no real gain is pretty extreeme.

and if there were any actual evidence of that it might be of some value.

Rider wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 1:58pm:

"It does sound like an unnecessary position given that the gentleman in question gives us the benefit of his views without needing taxpayer funding," Mr Abbott said. The man makes a very valid point  ;D ;D

;D

That's what i thought.

Abbott will need his own bureaucracy to account for his Direct Action policy.....He will also use taxpayer money to fund the billions of dollars that will be wasted implementing his useless policy.....How the Liberal Party can condemn the market over Government control shows they have no moral fibre and prefer to play politics than implement good policy.....An emissions trading scheme is the only way to drive investment and get real change in how we reduce our carbon emissions.....Tony Abbott's Direct Action policy is an insult to the environment and all Australian's who care about our planet and our children's future!!!

>:( >:( >:(

What is the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on?
Henry David Thoreau (1817 - 1862)

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 3:20pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 3:19pm: How is it 'extreme' to implement a basic policy? or is it just considered extreme when it differs from the ACTU position? I would think the pleasure that the conservatives always get from sacking people for no real gain is pretty extreeme. and if there were any actual evidence of that it might be of some value.

Isn't this evidence not even in power and he is creaming his pants over the opportunity to increase unemployment, just like all Liberals as is clearly shown by history.

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 5:59pm:

Abbott will need his own bureaucracy to account for his Direct Action policy.....He will also use taxpayer money to fund the billions of dollars that will be wasted implementing his useless policy.....How the Liberal Party can condemn the market over Government control shows they have no moral fibre and prefer to play politics than implement good policy.....An emissions trading scheme is the only way to drive investment and get real change in how we reduce our carbon emissions.....Tony Abbott's Direct Action policy is an insult to the environment and all Australian's who care about our planet and our children's future!!! >:( >:( >:( What is the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on? Henry David Thoreau (1817 - 1862)

THat is correct.

"Direct Action" - the Communist-style big government response (ie GREAT BIG TAX) to climate change that Abbott proposes will need an army of public servants to administer.

Why is he so against a market-driven mechanism?  Even China is implementing a carbon price.

BTW:  Does Tony still think climate change is crap?  Or is it "climate change is real, humanity does make a contribution to it and we’ve got to take effective action against it."

And if he wants to "take effective action against it." - why will he scrap the market driven mechanism and replace it with a far more expensive scheme?

He really doesn't appear to be very smart, does he.

wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:58am:

Abbott forecasts Flannery job loss     AAP     April 03, 2013 FEDERAL Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has forecast a job loss for chief climate commissioner Tim Flannery if the coalition wins power at the next election.     :-? And he says climate change and carbon tax bureaucracies set up by the Labor government would also go under a coalition government when it abolishes the carbon tax. When asked on Macquarie Radio on Wednesday if Professor Flannery would be "consigned to the wastepaper basket of bureaucracy", Mr Abbott said he thought there were four climate and carbon tax bureaucracies in place. "When the carbon tax goes, all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. "It does sound like an unnecessary position given that the gentleman in question gives us the benefit of his views without needing taxpayer funding," Mr Abbott said. Australian Greens leader Christine Milne said it was another extreme policy from Mr Abbott, who in the past had labelled the science of climate change as "crap". "Frankly, all of his policies are in line with that view," Senator Milne told reporters in Canberra.     :( Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/abbott-forecasts-flannery-job-loss/story-e6frfku9-1226611491455#ixzz2PMDZyvux

Newman engineered Anna Bligh's husband's resignation when he was given the job of unwinding all the climate change rubbish that Mr Bligh had overseen. Apparently the sun still rises over Queensland so Flim Flannery's departure will be no loss.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 11:16am:

Flannery is not a scientist,

His Degree in Earth Sciences and Doctorate in Zoology suggest otherwise.



bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 11:16am:

he's a politician spruiking a particular world view which becomes more discredited as time goes on . . .as some of us realised it would.

I'm afraid that virtually every scientific and academic body on earth disagrees with you and whatever shock-jock you listen to.

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 5:59pm: Abbott will need his own bureaucracy to account for his Direct Action policy.....He will also use taxpayer money to fund the billions of dollars that will be wasted implementing his useless policy.....How the Liberal Party can condemn the market over Government control shows they have no moral fibre and prefer to play politics than implement good policy.....An emissions trading scheme is the only way to drive investment and get real change in how we reduce our carbon emissions.....Tony Abbott's Direct Action policy is an insult to the environment and all Australian's who care about our planet and our children's future!!! What is the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on? Henry David Thoreau (1817 - 1862) THat is correct. "Direct Action" - the Communist-style big government response (ie GREAT BIG TAX) to climate change that Abbott proposes will need an army of public servants to administer. Why is he so against a market-driven mechanism?  Even China is implementing a carbon price. BTW:  Does Tony still think climate change is crap?  Or is it "climate change is real, humanity does make a contribution to it and we’ve got to take effective action against it." And if he wants to "take effective action against it." - why will he scrap the market driven mechanism and replace it with a far more expensive scheme? He really doesn't appear to be very smart, does he.

It’s the Liberal way - dumb leaders who can be led around by the nose by business groups. They have no need to be clever just to do what they are told.

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:30pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:16am: Flannery is not a scientist, His Degree in Earth Sciences and Doctorate in Zoology suggest otherwise. bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:16am: he's a politician spruiking a particular world view which becomes more discredited as time goes on . . .as some of us realised it would. I'm afraid that virtually every scientific and academic body on earth disagrees with you and whatever shock-jock you listen to.

LOL, god you really are full of it! But you do add humour to an otherwise boorish discussion.

Rider wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:44pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:16am: Flannery is not a scientist, His Degree in Earth Sciences and Doctorate in Zoology suggest otherwise. bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:16am: he's a politician spruiking a particular world view which becomes more discredited as time goes on . . .as some of us realised it would. I'm afraid that virtually every scientific and academic body on earth disagrees with you and whatever shock-jock you listen to. LOL, god you really are full of it! But you do add humour to an otherwise boorish discussion.

Actually, rider, he's right. Sorry to break it to you this way, but you've been brainwashed.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cbrI0mcHEoE/TqtiE_PlRxI/AAAAAAAAADA/PL8CKU6ljmw/s400/brain+wash.jpeg

Rider wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 7:44pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 7:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:16am: Flannery is not a scientist, His Degree in Earth Sciences and Doctorate in Zoology suggest otherwise. bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:16am: he's a politician spruiking a particular world view which becomes more discredited as time goes on . . .as some of us realised it would. I'm afraid that virtually every scientific and academic body on earth disagrees with you and whatever shock-jock you listen to. LOL, god you really are full of it! But you do add humour to an otherwise boorish discussion.

Could you give us an example of any scientific and academic bodies on the planet that claims that   the theory behind anthropogenic global warming is being "discredited as time goes on"

That would be a good laugh, wouldn't it!

(Hint:  2GB and the Herald Sun are not scientific or academic bodies)

Flannery is a waste of money. Good move.

Phallic, Matty has money. His father gave him eighty thousand to go to New Zealand - no typo.

Thoughts?

Swagman wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 11:56am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public

Especially those who make absurd claims, such as that idiotic claim that QLD would never get enough rainfall to fill its dams again. Flannery is quite simply a moron, whose outlandish predictions never come anywhere near close to materialising...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 5:30am:

Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:56am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public Especially those who make absurd claims, such as that idiotic claim that QLD would never get enough rainfall to fill its dams again. Flannery is quite simply a moron, whose outlandish predictions never come anywhere near close to materialising...

This has been discussed ad nauseum. Not a single poster has been able to show us where Flannery actually made this prediction. Flannery knows the weather is variable, he knows that long term trends can be overwhelmed by specific weather events. If you read his work without filtering it through the echo chamber you would know your statement is a complete fabrication.

MOTR wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 5:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:30am: Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:56am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public Especially those who make absurd claims, such as that idiotic claim that QLD would never get enough rainfall to fill its dams again. Flannery is quite simply a moron, whose outlandish predictions never come anywhere near close to materialising... This has been discussed ad nauseum. Not a single poster has been able to show us where Flannery actually made this prediction. Flannery knows the weather is variable, if you read his work without filtering it through the echo chamber you would know your statement is a complete fabrication.

Really???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM_C_-2MGWU

And what did he say before he was quoted out of context. Can't you see how you are being played as a fool.

MOTR wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 5:56am:

And what did he say before he was quoted out of context. Can't you see how you are being played as a fool.

Ahh, the old "I was quoted out of context" excuse. That's just crap.  :D :D :D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 6:05am:

MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:56am: And what did he say before he was quoted out of context. Can't you see how you are being played as a fool. Ahh, the old "I was quoted out of context" excuse. That's just crap.  :D :D :D

Think about it, armchair, why is the clip so short?

MOTR wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 6:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:05am: MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:56am: And what did he say before he was quoted out of context. Can't you see how you are being played as a fool. Ahh, the old "I was quoted out of context" excuse. That's just crap.  :D :D :D Think about it, armchair, why is the clip so short?

Easy - 'nuff said! What - can't handle it when you're proven wrong? Poor diddums...  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA

MOTR wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 5:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:30am: Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:56am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public Especially those who make absurd claims, such as that idiotic claim that QLD would never get enough rainfall to fill its dams again. Flannery is quite simply a moron, whose outlandish predictions never come anywhere near close to materialising... This has been discussed ad nauseum. Not a single poster has been able to show us where Flannery actually made this prediction. Flannery knows the weather is variable, he knows that long term trends can be overwhelmed by specific weather events. If you read his work without filtering it through the echo chamber you would know your statement is a complete fabrication.

I have and he said it alright. He was even refering to the now. The present and how we are already seeing signs of climate change.

I showed where he talked of the present and moved on to crystal balls. All failing mind you. The poor sod doesnt even know how soil and plants work in terms of run-off.

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 8:39pm:

Flannery is a waste of money. Good move.

I want to elaborate on this a bit more to be fair. What has he accomplished in his time on the government payroll that justifies keeping him on?

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 6:33am:

MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:30am: Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:56am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public Especially those who make absurd claims, such as that idiotic claim that QLD would never get enough rainfall to fill its dams again. Flannery is quite simply a moron, whose outlandish predictions never come anywhere near close to materialising... This has been discussed ad nauseum. Not a single poster has been able to show us where Flannery actually made this prediction. Flannery knows the weather is variable, he knows that long term trends can be overwhelmed by specific weather events. If you read his work without filtering it through the echo chamber you would know your statement is a complete fabrication. I have and he said it alright. He was even refering to the now. The present and how we are already seeing signs of climate change. I showed where he talked of the present and moved on to crystal balls. All failing mind you. The poor sod doesnt even know how soil and plants work in terms of run-off.

... and I provided the crystal-clear video of him saying it!

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 7:03am:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 8:39pm: Flannery is a waste of money. Good move. I want to elaborate on this a bit more to be fair. What has he accomplished in his time on the government payroll that justifies keeping him on?

He accomplished something other than making both himself and the government look extremely foolish???

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 5:59pm:

Abbott will need his own bureaucracy to account for his Direct Action policy.....He will also use taxpayer money to fund the billions of dollars that will be wasted implementing his useless policy.....How the Liberal Party can condemn the market over Government control shows they have no moral fibre and prefer to play politics than implement good policy.....An emissions trading scheme is the only way to drive investment and get real change in how we reduce our carbon emissions.....Tony Abbott's Direct Action policy is an insult to the environment and all Australian's who care about our planet and our children's future!!! >:( >:( >:( What is the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on? Henry David Thoreau (1817 - 1862)

correct, tony is a big spending, big government f wit, just like julia and swan.
at least he doesnt ozze hatred for the movers and shakers the way those 2 clowns do but if he worked in a business run by me, he would be reduced to photo copying duties.

as to swan and gillard, i would take great delight in sacking their sorry ars*es ;)

Flannery.....one word.....Geodynamics....hows that going for you Tim?

This country can't afford Tim. I think Howards plan to make hime Aust of the Year was a ploy to keep him close by, pat him on his baldy head everynow and then, and say 'thats a good boy Timmy, why don't you play with those blocks over there once you've polished that nice little medal'.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 7:06am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:33am: MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:30am: Swagman wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:56am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:35am: all of those bureaucracies will go and I suspect we might find that the particular position you refer to goes with them," he told broadcaster Ray Hadley. It was a stupid question - the Libs will never miss the opportunity to sack someone - anyone or everyone. It is just what they do the best. .......especially those that are porking from the public Especially those who make absurd claims, such as that idiotic claim that QLD would never get enough rainfall to fill its dams again. Flannery is quite simply a moron, whose outlandish predictions never come anywhere near close to materialising... This has been discussed ad nauseum. Not a single poster has been able to show us where Flannery actually made this prediction. Flannery knows the weather is variable, he knows that long term trends can be overwhelmed by specific weather events. If you read his work without filtering it through the echo chamber you would know your statement is a complete fabrication. I have and he said it alright. He was even refering to the now. The present and how we are already seeing signs of climate change. I showed where he talked of the present and moved on to crystal balls. All failing mind you. The poor sod doesnt even know how soil and plants work in terms of run-off. ... and I provided the crystal-clear video of him saying it!

yeah right ... he could have been talking about you having a shower in that clip and no one would know .... why don't you put up a clip with the full interview? is it because you know you're a moron?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 6:22am:

MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:13am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:05am: MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:56am: And what did he say before he was quoted out of context. Can't you see how you are being played as a fool. Ahh, the old "I was quoted out of context" excuse. That's just crap.  :D :D :D Think about it, armchair, why is the clip so short? Easy - 'nuff said! What - can't handle it when you're proven wrong? Poor diddums...  ;D ;D ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA

You are a deadset moron, armchair. Quoting someone out of context is about as dishonest as it gets. Are you deliberately hiding the context or are you totally oblivious?

Here is the quote in its entirety.


Quote:

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We're already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we're getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that's translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That's because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that's a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we're going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.

MOTR wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 2:25pm:

in some areas of Australia

Did you miss that bit armpitt?

you said something about a fool .... I'm betting that was because you saw your reflection on your monitor at the time you wrote it.

MOTR wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 2:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:22am: MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:13am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 6:05am: MOTR wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 5:56am: And what did he say before he was quoted out of context. Can't you see how you are being played as a fool. Ahh, the old "I was quoted out of context" excuse. That's just crap.  :D :D :D Think about it, armchair, why is the clip so short? Easy - 'nuff said! What - can't handle it when you're proven wrong? Poor diddums...  ;D ;D ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA You are a deadset moron, armchair. Quoting someone out of context is about as dishonest as it gets. Are you deliberately hiding the context or are you totally oblivious?

Wanna know what's really dishonest? Promising no carbon tax prior to the election and then introducing one when you'v'e got the job back...