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Message started by Swannys Basket on Apr 9th, 2013 at 12:07pm

Title: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Swannys Basket on Apr 9th, 2013 at 12:07pm
Hi,

I have just created a site called Swannys Basket to investigate the impact of the carbon tax on the price of groceries.

swannysbasket (dot) com (dot) au

I would love to start a discussion around it!

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 9th, 2013 at 12:38pm
I suggest you have that discussion in "politics sux" forum as this is about government policy and there is more action to be had there. Dont expect a rosy discussion though. Can get ugly in there.

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Swannys Basket on Apr 11th, 2013 at 2:12pm
I will try and get something started over there.

I cant start a thread on that forum and at this stage I am finding it difficult to find a relevant topic. I will keep trying though.

If you have a minute it would be great if you could checkout the site and let me know your thoughts!


Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Soren on May 8th, 2013 at 10:40pm
The carbon tax has nuffin to do wiv the environment.


Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Soren on May 9th, 2013 at 9:33am

Soren wrote on May 8th, 2013 at 10:40pm:
The carbon tax has nuffin to do wiv the environment.



The federal government is set to slash around $100 million in funding for solar and other renewable energy projects to help cover an expected plunge in the price of carbon in three years time.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/combet_confirms_carbon_fuelled_tax_foGv95IRrYkTGToixxI6XM


As the international carbon price collapses, the Australian carbon tax, far from raising money for green initiatives, has created a massive hole in the budget.
The government has punted on $23 per tonne, rising to $29 in 2 yeras and has budgeted expenditure accordingly.
But now that carbon price is going backward (now around 4 euros a tonne, about $5) to less than a quarter of our ficed price and showing no signs of rising significantly.
SO what happened? The Australian 'pricing of carbon' has avtually restricted and will continue to restrict CO2 reduction efforts until it is abolished later this year.

But the Labor Green rhetoric continues but even they do not believe it any more. Because if they really believed that the carbon price will be around $29 in 2015, they would be buying up all the European carbon permits at the present bargain basement price of about $5 and make a killing in 2 years.
But they don't believe it.

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Dnarever on May 9th, 2013 at 9:36am
I would think too small a componect to be measured. Only a bogus political opportunity.

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Ajax on Jul 24th, 2013 at 2:18pm
The way the carbon t is right now, it is set to increase 2.5% above inflation every year.

That means if inflation for the end of this financial year is 3% the carbon tax will increase netx year by 5.5%.

Not only groceries but any service or product that uses energy will go up.

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by John Smith on Jul 24th, 2013 at 4:11pm

Ajax wrote on Jul 24th, 2013 at 2:18pm:
The way the carbon t is right now, it is set to increase 2.5% above inflation every year.

That means if inflation for the end of this financial year is 3% the carbon tax will increase netx year by 5.5%.

Not only groceries but any service or product that uses energy will go up.


I'd love to see how you came up with that figure, but I'm afraid that you'll just add to your load of rubbish, so I won't ask.

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Ajax on Jul 25th, 2013 at 10:46am

John Smith wrote on Jul 24th, 2013 at 4:11pm:

Ajax wrote on Jul 24th, 2013 at 2:18pm:
The way the carbon t is right now, it is set to increase 2.5% above inflation every year.

That means if inflation for the end of this financial year is 3% the carbon tax will increase netx year by 5.5%.

Not only groceries but any service or product that uses energy will go up.


I'd love to see how you came up with that figure, but I'm afraid that you'll just add to your load of rubbish, so I won't ask.


Hey JS

You should really keep your ears pealed when announcements are being made.


Quote:
The Australian government announced on Sunday it would introduce a carbon tax at $23 a tonne next July, rising 2.5% annually plus inflation and moving to a market-based emissions trading scheme in 2015.


I cant provide the link because of this crazy rule you guys have on here that you need 100 posts to do so.

But there it is!!??

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Deathridesahorse on Aug 7th, 2013 at 1:51pm

Ajax wrote on Jul 24th, 2013 at 2:18pm:
The way the carbon t is right now, it is set to increase 2.5% above inflation every year.

That means if inflation for the end of this financial year is 3% the carbon tax will increase netx year by 5.5%.

Not only groceries but any service or product that uses energy will go up.

What is productivity??

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Ajax on Aug 7th, 2013 at 2:01pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 1:51pm:
What is productivity??


What is just in time...?????

Title: Re: Carbon tax effects on grocery prices
Post by Deathridesahorse on Aug 13th, 2013 at 5:29pm

Ajax wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 2:01pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 7th, 2013 at 1:51pm:
What is productivity??


What is just in time...?????

'competitive manufacturing' talk: this is an environment forum and you are neglecting the environmental inefficiencies(read: dodgy externalities) associated with such a practise!

Comprende yet junior??  :D :D

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